I think Jayna makes an excellent point here about HAT and CART being a
benefit to everyone at the convention. I think this needs to be a big
emphasis that these things are a benefit to everyone attending the
convention not just our group. Also previous posts awhile back discussed
the CEU codes that are mentioned at the end of the discussions being put on
the power point presentations. That is a huge deal that would definitely
help EVERYONE!

I think it is worth asking manufacturers for help with funding/providing
ALD's as well. How many times do you have a rep in your office notice your
hearing aids and suggest you try their hearing aids. They want our
business. We (HOH auds) are their most effective advertisement. If a
patient asks well what brand hearing aid do you wear? I think they would
want to purchase the same brand knowing you are a professional and chose to
wear that brand.

Just my thoughts,

Kristen Bretz


>From: Jayna Altman <jaynaaltman@...>
>Reply-To: HOHAudiologists@yahoogroups.com
>To: HOHAudiologists@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [HOHAudiologists] Re: AudiologyNOW 2008 proposal (and letter)
>Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 07:29:42 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Brad,
>
>I do see it from your point of view, and I do not think you are being
>negative about the situation. But merely pointing out the reality of the
>situation. I agree with your comments.
>
>But yes, I am suggesting that the major manufacturers get on board. I see
>it from a marketing perspective - it's about the customer, and end user.
>With the increase of technology and services available now days to
>individuals with a hearing loss, they are going to see more and more
>audiologists with a hearing loss enter the profession. It is becoming
>increasing prevalent. If they fail to accommodate these audiologists, then
>they are failing to make two sets of clients happy - 1) their dispensers,
>and 2) the customer. If they are failing to make these sets of customers
>happy, then it impacts the numbers.
>
>By failing to properly recognize and accommodate this group of individuals
>is going to create a gap in the market in a couple years down the line. It
>is my personal opinion that they need to strategically consider this for
>the future.
>
>Furthermore, we can attribute the benefits of HAT and CART to even those
>who do not have a hearing loss. In reality, everyone benefits from improved
>listening accommodations; and with CART, copies of the speeches can be
>accessed via website, or offered at a charge for those in the profession
>who could not attend the session/conference but would like to gained the
>knowledge from the session.
>
>Just my two cents!
>
>Jayna
>
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: "Brad Ingrao, AuD" <bingrao@...>
>To: HOHAudiologists@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:50:11 AM
>Subject: RE: [HOHAudiologists] Re: AudiologyNOW 2008 proposal (and letter)
>
>Jayna,
>
>I hate to be so negative, but AAA has been aware of this for many years.
>Also, I really don't see the manufacturers stepping up to the plate on this
>one. They are at that convention to sell their primary products: hearing
>aids and CI's. They do offer HAT compatibility (some, not all), but
>rarely, in my experience, actively promote it. Most Open and RITE
>products, which are the current flagships of almost everybody there, don't
>have any way to couple to HAT even if the manufacturer thought it was a
>good idea.
>
>Think of it from their perspective: ABC hearing aid company is debuting
>their Zippity Doo Dah hearing aid with a bajillion channels of independent
>compression and super-dee-duper finest scale noise reduction and "Sniper
>Scope" directional microphones. Are you suggesting that they get on the
>band wagon with a bunch of HoH audiologists and students who, even with
>their top of the line "100th generation" digital products can't hear the
>lecture given by their own research audiologists and DSP designers?
>
>With the exception of companies that have a specific interest in selling
>HAT, I really have not seen any manufacturers actively endorsing its use,
>in fact, quite the contrary. Look at all the claims of directional
>microphones and noise reduction that can only be valid in a room with a
>worst, a S/N of +/-0. How many manufacturers are actively promoting
>comprehensive speech in noise testing?
>
>OK crawling back into my Curmudgeon Cave now...
>
>Brad Ingrao, AuD
>Owner
>
>
>
>e-audiology. net
>"Audiology for the 21st Century"
>bingrao@e-audiology .net
>
>
>
>
>
>
>From: HOHAudiologists@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:HOHAudiolog
>ists@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of Jayna Altman
>Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 9:25 AM
>To: HOHAudiologists@ yahoogroups. com
>Subject: Re: [HOHAudiologists] Re: AudiologyNOW 2008 proposal (and letter)
>
>
>Hi Suzanne, Brad, and Sam:
>
>I can't directly comment on the accommodations last year since I was not
>involved, nor did I attend. However, I will be present this year.
>
>Therefore, once you have your letter drafted, please let me know as I have
>connections to all of the organizations that Sam has listed. Additionally,
>I have served on the board of trustees for some of these organizations.
>
>Furthermore, we should ask for support from the major hearing aid/cochlear
>implant companies. They have consumer advocacy, which we would fall under
>as well.
>
>I don't agree with getting the media involved. It can create a negative
>impact to what we are trying to accomplish, which is increased
>communication and better accessibility for the hearing impaired at this
>convention.
>
>To me, the key is creating a unified front sending a clear message - better
>accommodations. We are advocating for ourselves, and we are also advocating
>for our patients.
>
>Out of curiosity, who is involved on the convention board at AAA? Does
>anyone know?
>
>Jayna
>
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: satchers <Samuel.Atcherson@ usd.edu>
>To: HOHAudiologists@ yahoogroups. com
>Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 9:54:08 PM
>Subject: [HOHAudiologists] Re: AudiologyNOW 2008 proposal (and letter)
>
>
>Hi Suzanne and Brad,
>
>Which two list members are meeting with AAA this Fall? This comes as
>new information to me, and it would be nice to have a group discussion
>beforehand about what we want AAA to know.
>
>As for the letter, the changing convention board has been part of the
>problem and I agree. And I also agree that we need more teeth by
>getting other professional groups involved and the public media. I can
>think of a few professional organizations, but why don't you guys
>start sending some names we can get involved. I'm thinking HLAA,
>AGBell, NAD, AMPHL... audiology-related organizations too?
>
>And for the discussion group??? Any takers?
>
>Sam
>
>
>
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