Generally speaking, these people (of the second paragraph below) had not lost the choice to drink, therefore they are able to have the choice to act sober....
Just an idea if you are struggling with the "God" thing.. "He becomes a Monk in all the different religions of the world so that he might free others from...
The well being of the group comes before the good of any individual. Because the recovery of the individual depends upon the well-being of the group. ... ...
Hi Mae (and All), Very true about not everyone "not caring". The woman who informed me about the quality of care being given by the majority of the staff at...
Thank you very much John..... You have touched on some of my own confusion over the years about God, and my understanding of God, or lack of understanding of...
Within or without are dualities of the mind in which most spiritual teachings from around the world view as an illusion. Like hot and cold are not two separate...
It is just not men stalking women but also women stalking men and in our neck of the woods we had a problem where 24 women filed a complaint that led to a...
The last thing anyone wants to realize is just what powerless means. The second last thing is to apply it to themselves. Listen at meetings - hear folks talk...
I make it a point that when I'm one of the last two people after a meeting to be sure that both of us leave together and both of our vehicles are running...
I have seen groups decide to have a couple of oldtimers take the "offender" aside and let him know that kind of behavior will not be tolerated and he is...
I think that the line is crossed with any behavior that is threatening, directly offensive or disrupts another members ability to hear the message of recovery....
I know it sounds strange but what I have found works best is God. Many times if there is a problem with someone or even a problem that I would rather not be...
In a message dated 6/15/2006 12:25:15 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, GSOwatch@yahoogroups.com writes: Should a group discipline an individual member is why I...
Good to hear from you Al, It is not an easy job you have undertaken, my thoughts are with you. All good points you have listed, although I have a suggestion...
one night, at my home group i walked in and proceeded to shake the mens' hands. i have raynauld's syndrome, which manifests itself as poor circulation to...
It would depend on how spiritual the group is. Some groups think even a drunk threatens them. I was at a meeting they told this crazy guy to leave because he...
... I use to follow one guy and constantly ask him why he was busy hugging the newbie women why he never hugged the newbie guys. I did this in a loud voice. He...
Hey Ed, Now you're narrowing it down to something more specific-predatory behavoir. Yes we have a great system for that as well. Our women would never leave...
Ed C. wrote: "This is not a matter of being disruptive. He roams the parking lot before and after the meetings. He looks for new females to help. We have begun...
Head on and direct! We have women members who have left. They have told us at group conscience they are afraid of one of the guys who come. Our female...
Hi Ed, This is a great topic anytime. It's one I see so many groups struggle with. I have had the fortunate experience of being a member of the same group...
I understand Ed the car polish salesman did not like the mention of God. They let him find his own way. The other fellow who had a problem much more ...
That is covered more fully in Tradition 3 and in something Bill wrote for the Grapevine in 1946-47. His work is reprinted in "AA Tradition - How It Developed"....
Ed C. asks :"one individual is causing harm to many in a group then what to do? Should a group discipline an individual member?" An interesting question Ed, to...
Tradition one speaks of no punishment or expulsion of any AA member. I one individual is causing harm to many in a group then what to do? I understand the...
I think the Traditions apply to the members, groups, and all of it together. I look at AA as a fellowship of men and women, and not the secondary aids to AA...
Hi All, I agree with Gary. Common welfare comes first, even over the individual. I think this permeates anything AA. Bill ... be able to be applied to...
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