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#7428 From: "christinemcmillan" <christinemcmillan@...>
Date: Mon Jul 13, 2009 8:51 am
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If I go from an extraordinarily high level of daily fluoride to a minimal level,
will my symptoms reduce correspondingly? Or will they not go away until I am
completely fluoride-free?




#7429 From: "A. Terpstra" <aliss@...>
Date: Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:59 pm
Subject: Re: Quick Question
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Hi Christine,
Since there is background fluoride in everything, fluoride free is not possible. Fluoride reduction is possible, and helping your body excrete it better and resist fluoride toxicity better with nutritional defense is possible, and doing things to repair some of the damage already done is possible.
 
And speaking from experience, the emotions that go along with living in a society where public health officials and most of the democratically elected people are hostile to your basic human right not to be fluoride poisoned against your will while you hand over your hard earned taxes, can be healed with simple tools like Emotional Freedom Techniques www.emofree.com 
 
There are two common scenarios that happen when fluoride is first drastically reduced, such as with stopping the obvious sources (like tea and toothpaste, cigarettes and wine/beer), drinking and cooking with distilled water, and eating only fresh foods (no canned, dried, concentrated, precooked or convenience foods) that have been grown organically or nearly organically i.e. minimal use of agricultural chemicals:
1. The person feels better immediately and six months later is no longer anemic, not in constant pain, with greatly improved digestion and kidney function. Most people have this response. Dr. Susheela in India has thousands of cases like this.
2. The person feels temporarily much worse as fluoride stored in bones is released and urine excretion of fluoride is increased. Pain, insomnia and a flu-like jittery depression can be severe but they are TEMPORARY and can either be helped with high doses of vitamin C and calcium gluconate and sometimes iodine drops, or waited out.  I had this response.
 
Drs Waldbott, Moolenburgh and others all reported cases of temporary worsening of symptoms in the early part of the withdrawal of excessive fluoride. It is not as common as #1 but it does happen.
 
The third scenario is one that is not well understood and even denied by some scientists even the ones who are adamantly opposed to water fluoridation. It is the mixed form that is the result of poisoning of cell membrane receptors by organic fluorides that don't dissolve in water or in the body, don't get metabolized, aren't neutralized by extra C and calcium, and are not properly excreted but seem to bind to various tissues and endocrine glands (water fluoridation is with inorganic fluorides that dissolve in water, enter the bloodstream and either get excreted in urine or stored in bones and soft tissues). The exposure to the organic fluoride (large molecule) somehow makes it impossible for a person to process fluoride ion (very small molecule) from water or food, and you become horribly hypersensitive and retain more fluoride in blood and bones. This appears to happen with some drugs, pesticides and Teflon type chemicals.
 
My theory on it is that some of us have almost no fluoride storage capacity left because of exposure to fluoridated water from conception onwards, and slight variations of intake and exposure are much more difficult for our calcium balancing mechanisms to handle. So our blood levels of fluoride will rise higher and stay higher longer while our blood calcium levels teeter on the edge of normal either too high or too low, than, say, someone who wasn't overdosed from conception onwards.
 
I could be on the wrong track though. I hope Dr. Phyllis Mullenix figures this out before I get old and demented.
Aliss
 
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If I go from an extraordinarily high level of daily fluoride to a minimal level, will my symptoms reduce correspondingly? Or will they not go away until I am completely fluoride-free?



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#7430 From: "christinemcmillan" <christinemcmillan@...>
Date: Mon Jul 13, 2009 7:58 pm
Subject: Re: Quick Question
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Aliss --

Thank you so much for your reply.

Before I started trying to detox from fluoride, I was in such incredible and
constant pain that I was, at times, suicidal. And while I am now nowhere near
pain-free, my level of pain is markedly reduced from what it was!

If I'm figuring correctly, at the beginning of this "experiment," I was
ingesting 16 mg or more of fluoride daily. In addition to drinking (3 liters
daily!) and showering in fluoridated water and using fluoride toothpaste, I was
taking four Prozac daily! (Not to mention the occasional fluoride-based
antibiotic...)

That bring me to another question. Prozac has 3.3 mg of fluorINE per capsule.
How does that translate over to fluorIDE?

Thank you again for sharing your knowledge with me. It helps so tremendously!

Chris





#7431 From: Andy Breuer <andy_breuer@...>
Date: Tue Jul 14, 2009 2:22 am
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Fuck off.

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From: christinemcmillan <christinemcmillan@...>
Subject: [FluoridePoisoning] Re: Quick Question
To: FluoridePoisoning@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 2:58 PM

Aliss --

Thank you so much for your reply.

Before I started trying to detox from fluoride, I was in such incredible and constant pain that I was, at times, suicidal. And while I am now nowhere near pain-free, my level of pain is markedly reduced from what it was!

If I'm figuring correctly, at the beginning of this "experiment, " I was ingesting 16 mg or more of fluoride daily. In addition to drinking (3 liters daily!) and showering in fluoridated water and using fluoride toothpaste, I was taking four Prozac daily! (Not to mention the occasional fluoride-based antibiotic.. .)

That bring me to another question. Prozac has 3.3 mg of fluorINE per capsule. How does that translate over to fluorIDE?

Thank you again for sharing your knowledge with me. It helps so tremendously!

Chris



#7432 From: "christinemcmillan" <christinemcmillan@...>
Date: Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:58 am
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--- In FluoridePoisoning@yahoogroups.com, Andy Breuer <andy_breuer@...> wrote:
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Andy --

What???!! What was that for?

Chris




#7491 From: "Claudia" <claudia_homer@...>
Date: Thu Dec 3, 2009 10:11 pm
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Chris, I'm so sorry for Andy's response!  You didn't even do anything wrong.  ~ 
Claudia

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> --- In FluoridePoisoning@yahoogroups.com, Andy Breuer <andy_breuer@> wrote:
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> Andy --
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> What???!! What was that for?
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> Chris
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