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Subject: [FAN Bulletins] 704: Arcata Eye Editor lies
From: "Paul Connett" <paul@...>
Date: Sat, November 4, 2006 10:51 pm
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THE FLUORIDE ACTION NETWORK

FAN Bulletin 704: Arcata Eye Editor lies

Nov 4, 2006

Dear All,

IMPORTANT NOTE: I try to keep these bulletins down to one per day
because I recognize the overload situation that many people are in.
To deal with this issue we are considering developing two different
lists for these bulletins: list A, for people who want every bulletin
and list B, for those who only want the really important ones - e.g.
scientific or legislative breakthroughs or urgent action of national
importance. As we develop the logistics for this it would be helpful
to hear from people who want to be on the second list (LIST B). If I
don't hear from you I will assume that you are content to get every
bulletin. I will be asking again.

In the Arcata Eye's edtorial, which was the subject of FAN bulletins
701 and 702, the following paragraph appeared:

"Odd then, isn't it, that the medical community, locally and
nationally, hasn't identified any linkage between fluoride and poor
health? And that no living, breathing, ailing fluoride victims have
stepped forward? Arcata has been adding fluoride to its water since
the early 1960s. If we had a problem, wouldn't there be an
identifiable portion of Arcata's populace with fluoride-related
medical problems?"

After my exchange with the editor (Kevin) I received this email from
a nurse in Arcata, Lynda Comerate, RN. She wrote the following:

Dr. Connett,

I am a member of the Yes on Measure W committee. I want to tell you
that I engaged with Kevin in July, these very same arguments. I did
not back myself up with as much studies as you, but the arguments
were the same, and so are his answers.

I have not been able to find a doctor yet who doesn't get the deer in
the headlights look on the face when I ask about fluoride poisoning.
I have hypothyroidism (Hashimoto's), ankylosing spondilitis,
osteoarthritis, vertebral problems; 3 spinal surgeries including
cervical repair of C4 throughC7 with metal, one lower spinal surgery
where he "scraped out bone and fibrous tissue" and a disc removal (He
said the disc looked like dried overcooked chicken meat in my neck),
bone spurs to boot. I have other problems but won't go into them,
as those mentioned seem related to fluoride. I took all the
treatments as a child, drank the water, fluoridated toothpaste, and
was a heavy consumer of tea, and drank wine. Do I have spinal
fluorosis, you bet. And I do I need a doctor to tell me that I do.
Absolutely not. Do I have great teeth, no? They chip and decay quite
easily.

I am glad you are taking Kevin on; he has been very hard on us
through out this campaign. In fact, all the newspapers have. They
seem so attached to this poison. I don't know why, but if you admit
you have been poisoned, you open a whole new can of worms.

Thank you for all you have done for us. Your continual help is
generous and appreciated. Again, thank you.

Lynda Comerate, RN

When I asked her if she had described her condition to Kevin and
could I distribute her letter, she wrote back:

You may use any information with my permission.

Lynda Comerate, RN

And she enclosed the email she sent to Kevin in July. So here are
the words of a "living, breathing, ailing fluoride victim" sent to
the Arcata Eye editor:

From: Lynda [mailto:frankslove@...]
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 12:05 PM
To: 'Arcata Eye'
Subject: RE: rebuttal

Kevin,

As I stated, physicians are not taught about it, so they can't
diagnose it unless they do the research, like the dentist I wrote
about in my rebuttal. When I speak to physicians about it, they get
the deer in the headlights look, or ignore me all together. Why?
Perhaps they too need someone to tell them, like Dr Lindsay. You
would think their oath of "do no harm" would spur them on to find out
why these new diseases keep developing and perhaps treating the
symptoms isn't the best avenue to choose. Notice, most of the
literature is by researchers, not practicing physicians/dentists.

I also have hypothyroidism, which has the exact same symptoms as
fluoride toxicity (you know I can send you the sight if you want to
read for yourself, just ask). When I was diagnosed with it, my
physician said it is so common these days and he had so many clients
with it. I asked him why it was so prevalent and he just shrugged
his shoulders and gave me a prescription. Yes Kevin, I am disabled
and unable to work as a nurse because of fluoride. When you research
it, you find it. Yes I diagnosed it myself, just as you do when you
say,"I have the flu". You know the symptoms and have read the
literature. That doesn't make it invalid because a doctor didn't say
it was the flu.

I worked in the same setting as doctors and know the politics.
Doctors belong to the same type organization as Dr Schonfeld, and
are repressed by the same corporate means. ... I do not have that
pressure and am free to research and draw my own conclusions, just as
I was taught in nursing school. I am not willing to wait for a
doctor to figure it out for me. I am however, an advocate for people
who can't interpret medical language and literature. People believe
in doctors, as you seem to. Kevin, doctors are people with
vulnerabilities just as you and I have, not infallible gods.

Dr Lindsay reviewed and found the book wanting? Wanting what? Why
would a doctor advocate mass medication of a community even though
each person's response to medications is supposed to be monitored for
side effects? Kevin, read the book and draw your own conclusion. You
are an intelligent man. The clarity you seek is as close as the
volumes of literature and books available to you. I would be happy
to assist you at any time. But wait for a doctor to tell me my
conclusions are valid, not on my life.

Lynda

So clearly a "living, breathing, ailing fluoride victim" did step
forward. Kevin may not have believed her, but contrary to what he
claimed in his editorial, at least one victim stepped forward. Kevin
was lying. Editorial licence perhaps.

Meanwhile, look at the callous response I received when I forwarded
to him a comment made by a someone who signed an online petition. The
petitioner wrote:

MY SON RECENTLY WAS DIAGNOSED WITH OSTEOSARCOMA WHICH SEEMS MOST
LIKELY FROM FLUORIDE. HE PASSED ON 2/02/2006 I MISS HIM GREATLY. NO
LIVING BEING SHOULD HAVE TO SUFFER AS HE DID. (Gina L. Melton,
Lebanon, OH)

Kevin's response:


Geez, if it isn't the exclamation points it's the capslock key.

Fluoride, for better punctuation.

K

If this editor has any influence in Arcata, which I seriously doubt,
I hope those who receive this bulletin will share it with as many
people as possible. I don't know what lunacy drives people who write
stuff like this, but it is certainly not a concern for people.

Remember all that meaasure W is asking for is that any chemical added
to the water to treat people be pure stuff and not have contaminants
exceeding California guidelines and that it be approved by the FDA as
safe for ingestion, as they do for any other medicine. Why should
such a reasonable demand produce such an irrational response. What
are these people defending and why?

Paul Connett
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FAN Bulletin 704: Arcata Eye Editor lies

Nov 4, 2006

Dear All,

IMPORTANT NOTE: I try to keep these bulletins down to one per day because I recognize the overload situation that many people are in. To deal with this issue we are considering developing two different lists for these bulletins: list A, for people who want every bulletin and list B, for those who only want the really important ones - e.g. scientific or legislative breakthroughs or urgent action of national importance. As we develop the logistics for this it would be helpful to hear from people who want to be on the second list (LIST B). If I don't hear from you I will assume that you are content to get every bulletin. I will be asking again.

In the Arcata Eye's edtorial, which was the subject of FAN bulletins 701 and 702, the following paragraph appeared:

"Odd then, isn't it, that the medical community, locally and nationally, hasn't identified any linkage between fluoride and poor health? And that no living, breathing, ailing fluoride victims have stepped forward? Arcata has been adding fluoride to its water since the early 1960s. If we had a problem, wouldn't there be an identifiable portion of Arcata's populace with fluoride-related medical problems?"

After my exchange with the editor (Kevin) I received this email from a nurse in Arcata, Lynda Comerate, RN. She wrote the following:

Dr. Connett,

I am a member of the Yes on Measure W committee.  I want to tell you that I engaged with Kevin in July, these very same arguments.  I did not back myself up with as much studies as you, but the arguments were the same, and so are his answers.

I have not been able to find a doctor yet who doesn't get the deer in the headlights look on the face when I ask about fluoride poisoning.  I have hypothyroidism (Hashimoto's), ankylosing spondilitis, osteoarthritis, vertebral problems; 3 spinal surgeries including cervical repair of C4 throughC7 with metal, one lower spinal surgery where he "scraped out bone and fibrous tissue" and a disc removal (He said the disc looked like dried overcooked chicken meat in my neck), bone spurs to boot.   I have other problems but won't go into them, as those mentioned seem related to fluoride.  I took all the treatments as a child, drank the water, fluoridated toothpaste, and was a heavy consumer of tea, and drank wine.  Do I have spinal fluorosis, you bet.  And I do I need a doctor to tell me that I do.  Absolutely not. Do I have great teeth, no?  They chip and decay quite easily.

I am glad you are taking Kevin on; he has been very hard on us through out this campaign.  In fact, all the newspapers have.  They seem so attached to this poison.  I don't know why, but if you admit you have been poisoned, you open a whole new can of worms.

Thank you for all you have done for us. Your continual help is generous and appreciated. Again, thank you.

Lynda Comerate, RN

When I asked her if she had described her condition to Kevin and could I distribute her letter, she wrote back:

You may use any information with my permission.

Lynda Comerate, RN

And she enclosed the email she sent to Kevin in July.  So here are the words of a "living, breathing, ailing fluoride victim" sent to the Arcata Eye editor:

From: Lynda [mailto:frankslove@...]
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 12:05 PM
To: 'Arcata Eye'
Subject: RE: rebuttal

Kevin,

As I stated, physicians are not taught about it, so they can't diagnose it unless they do the research, like the dentist I wrote about in my rebuttal.  When I speak to physicians about it, they get the deer in the headlights look, or ignore me all together.  Why?  Perhaps they too need someone to tell them, like Dr Lindsay. You would think their oath of "do no harm" would spur them on to find out why these new diseases keep developing and perhaps treating the symptoms isn't the best avenue to choose.  Notice, most of the literature is by researchers, not practicing physicians/dentists.

I also have hypothyroidism, which has the exact same symptoms as fluoride toxicity (you know I can send you the sight if you want to read for yourself, just ask).  When I was diagnosed with it, my physician said it is so common these days and he had so many clients with it.  I asked him why it was so prevalent and he just shrugged his shoulders and gave me a prescription. Yes Kevin, I am disabled and unable to work as a nurse because of fluoride.  When you research it, you find it.  Yes I diagnosed it myself, just as you do when you say,"I have the flu".  You know the symptoms and have read the literature.  That doesn't make it invalid because a doctor didn't say it was the flu.

I worked in the same setting as doctors and know the politics.  Doctors belong to the same type organization as Dr Schonfeld, and are repressed by the same corporate means.  ... I do not have that pressure and am free to research and draw my own conclusions, just as I was taught in nursing school.  I am not willing to wait for a doctor to figure it out for me.  I am however, an advocate for people who can't interpret medical language and literature.  People believe in doctors, as you seem to.  Kevin, doctors are people with vulnerabilities just as you and I have, not infallible gods.  

Dr Lindsay reviewed and found the book wanting?  Wanting what?  Why would a doctor advocate mass medication of a community even though each person's response to medications is supposed to be monitored for side effects? Kevin, read the book and draw your own conclusion. You are an intelligent man. The clarity you seek is as close as the volumes of literature and books available to you.   I would be happy to assist you at any time.  But wait for a doctor to tell me my conclusions are valid, not on my life.

Lynda

So clearly a "living, breathing, ailing fluoride victim" did step forward. Kevin may not have believed her, but  contrary to what he claimed in his editorial, at least one victim stepped forward. Kevin was lying. Editorial licence perhaps.

Meanwhile, look at the callous response I received when I forwarded to him a comment made by a someone who signed an online petition. The petitioner wrote:

MY SON RECENTLY WAS DIAGNOSED WITH OSTEOSARCOMA WHICH SEEMS MOST  LIKELY FROM FLUORIDE. HE PASSED ON 2/02/2006 I MISS HIM GREATLY. NO LIVING BEING SHOULD HAVE TO SUFFER AS HE DID. (Gina L. Melton, Lebanon, OH)

Kevin's response:


Geez, if it isn't the exclamation points it's the capslock key.

Fluoride, for better punctuation.

K

If this editor has any influence in Arcata, which I seriously doubt, I hope those who receive this bulletin will share it with as many people as possible. I don't know what lunacy drives people who write stuff like this, but it is certainly not a concern for people.

Remember all that meaasure W is asking for is that any chemical added to the water to treat people be pure stuff and not have contaminants exceeding California guidelines and that it be approved by the FDA as safe for ingestion, as they do for any other medicine. Why should such a reasonable demand produce such an irrational response. What are these people defending and why?

Paul Connett
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