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Re: [FailsafeNT] Is this what's going on?

Very interesting post! I don't know, *is* that what is going on?
thanks for taking the time to write down your theories, it really gets
me thinking...

I think you are onto something, but I'm a bit confused. Would you mind
working it with me a little? Is this what you are saying?

Sal Processing System: uses up certain nutrients, busies the detox pathways

Overwhelmed Sal processing system: results in K deficiency, copper
levels raise (darkening blonde hair), sals goof up brain, skin, joints
and other symptoms, system can just give up, but will resume after a
while off of sals?

Proper Sal System processing system: Zinc and K levels raise, pathways
clear, feel good

Maintenance/healing: pay attention to nutrient status, moderate sals and
amines

Need some clarification:

I thought low zinc was what was related to food chemical intolerance,
not low copper
I thought when you go low sal, you can process more amines

Renee



Shannon Weiner wrote:
> Salicylate and amine intolerance is such a huge and mysterious puzzle
> to me. I'm slowly trying to put the pieces together, and wondering if
> I'm on the right track based on what you've experienced. No, I
> haven't done the diet yet, but I'm finding myself not wanting to eat
> higher sal foods in general. I don't know if it's psychological or
> really listening to my body though :)
>
> So here goes:
>
> If you're eating the 'right' amount of sals for your body - meaning
> under your 'tolerance' level, then your body process them away and
> they disappear and everything is fantastic. This process uses
> specific nutrients (vitamin K? copper?) and pathways, and serum zinc
> raises, while serum copper lowers. Low copper helps explain low amine
> tolerance, and low melanin production (light blond/red hair).
>
> If you're eating too many sals, The processing mechanism gets
> overwhelmed and stops trying. Sals start to go places they shouldn't,
> like your brain, skin or joints, and cause symptoms. Serum copper
> goes up, darkening your hair, and allowing you to process more amines
>
> When you cut out sals on the failsafe diet, your body goes back into
> 'process the sals' mode (kinda like detox), and your zinc raises
> again. This means you're more sensitive to amines, but your other
> symptoms go away. You get process the sals that have accumulated in
> places they shouldn't have. Once those are cleared out, you can start
> eating small amounts of them again, and keep up with the processing,
> but you have to balance it with eating too many amines.
>
> Now, if I'm on the right track, then it seems like you could speed the
> detox process up by supplementing with whatever nutrients are
> necessary for processing the sals, and if you paid close attention to
> copper, you might be able to minimize the amine intolerance?
>
> Shannon
>
>




Thu Nov 6, 2008 4:48 pm

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Salicylate and amine intolerance is such a huge and mysterious puzzle to me. I'm slowly trying to put the pieces together, and wondering if I'm on the right...
Shannon Weiner
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Nov 6, 2008
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Very interesting post! I don't know, *is* that what is going on? thanks for taking the time to write down your theories, it really gets me thinking... I think...
Renee Cyr
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Nov 6, 2008
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very interesting post indeed. the zinc i agree with completely, our dietician who is a mindd member and uses NT, put kenz on a zinc/molybdenum/selenium...
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Nov 6, 2008
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Yeah, that's pretty much what I was thinking. I don't have any idea what nutrients are required for sal processing (that's the next thing for google...) And...
Shannon Weiner
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Nov 7, 2008
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Oh, you might want to look into Vit C for histamines, it was mentioned on another site. I think one of the failsafeNT ladies did have trouble with it... As...
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I was looking for nettles but didn’t find any wild ones cause they have 20% minerals compared to other greens. I was just going to buy the tea and drink it....
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... What? Nettles have histamine? Wow, I used to drink the tea, alot! The thought was it is good for allergies. I tried to naturalize it in my garden, but it...
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Because the histamines in nettle limit the body’s response to pollen and other irritating substances, nettle was also a favored treatment for asthma and...
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Naomi and Rene, I know this has been discussed in past posts. Can you direct me? I think I have just figured out why the extreme salt cravings when dd is ...
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We eat the sea salt in hopes of getting the minerals. I’ll have to watch for the salt cravings, that’s interesting. I’ll also have them eat seaweed for...
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I mineralized with rock dust and it really helped my root veggies get huge. I put it under my mulch in late winter, and when I lifted the mulch to plant in...
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Hi everyone, We were away on holidays and Kenzie started eating the pure white sand on Whitehaven Beach in the Whitsundays - knowing it was so clean and pure I...
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Wait, I don't eat rock dust! (Just to be sure to be clear here) I put it on my garden! But, people do take minerals as they occur in the environment, like...
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Good idea for the garden. As far as I know yes for the sea-veggies and glutamates. Moni ... watch ... seaweeds can be ... can get ... sushi rolls ... ...
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... Supps...I wish I knew, but I seem to get reactions from most things, after a while. Lately, I've been making the oyster stew from NT, except without the...
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http://discovermagazine.com/2007/apr/autism-it2019s-not-just-in-the-head Dorota...
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that was a very VERY interesting article when i found it, anyone else have trouble with the link? i replaced the 2019 with an apostrophe which took me to the...
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NOVA did a show on epigenetics a while back, and they talk about brown/yellow mice too: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/sciencenow/3411/02.html Fascinating stuff!...
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