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Looking for SCT info

Anthony:

Anthony, no offense but you sound like you are a partner with EF:::)))

I agree with most of what you say and thank you for taking the time to go
into detail.

And maybe we do tend to complain because if everything is working great, we
tend to go about life. but we need/want facts based on results.

And I do tend to agree with some of the previous comments about never seeing
a before and after pictures as you do in many other programs.. Even in the
instructions, the specimens certainly are not very representative of what
most of the members want to achieve. Myself, I just want to gain strength,
reduce bodyfat and feel flexible.. I am almost 64 years old and don't intend
to look like Arnie as I see him on the Nightly News almost every night::))

My biggest complaint is, both Tony and Pete are sending all of these e-mails
telling us how great the equipment is, marketing, giving discounts to future
purchasers for less than the original buyers had to pay who made them
successful.. Having said all that, there are never any pictures included
with all of their advertising AND STILL NO VIDEO after promising it 3 or 4
months ago TO PROVE TO US THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY USING THE EQUIPMENT
CORRECTLY.

RON

PS: Also, I think if Tony and Pete are going to promote in unison, I would
think after 2 years of promoting and selling the equipment that we should
have one consistent way of beginning exercises.. I know Pete says there is
more than one way to exercise but we purchased the equipment based on Pete's
research and I just think there should be enough results by now to give us
the ideal way to begin and to advance..

PPS: I strongly suggest you go to eBAY and purchase this book as it will
answer many questions even though I think the first line of gaining "Gain Up
To 25 Pounds in 10 Weeks" is purely hype but then if you gain 1 pound, it
falls within the parameters of UP TO 25.:::))
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2228&item=4519753440&
rd=1&ssPageName=WD1V

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-----Original Message-----
From: Anthony Bowyer [mailto:adb1x1@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 9:32 AM
To: Explosive_Fitness@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Explosive_Fitness] Looking for SCT info

Mike,

There are several things you might consider:

1. One unfortunate tendency of human beings is to
expend a great deal of energy complaining, and very
little lauding. There's quite a bit of whining among
us. So, for the most part what you will see and hear
is negative rather than positive because we enjoy
spreading the negative rather than the positive.

2. Keep in mind that just because someone says he did
static contraction training doesn't mean he actually
performed it correctly. What he practiced is what he
thought was static contraction. He was practicing his
"concept" of static contraction training and not
necessarily the correct procedures. I've seen this
time and time again when someone at the gym asked me
what I do; what my routine is; and I would give him
the details and mention to him that books are
available that would give them more detail and explain
the overall program. Without fail, no matter how much
detail I gave them, what they were performing was
nothing like what I had explained. They had a concept
of static contraction training that was not accurate,
even though I had spent a great deal of time
explaining it to them. So you have to take into
account that quite a few people will glance over the
first parts of the static contraction book and skip to
the sections with the routines. They'll write the
routines on small scrap of paper and then run into the
gym and perform what they think is static contraction
training. It really isn't, because the only part they
paid attention to was the routines. As a matter fact I
saw one very negative comment about SCT from a person
who was complaining because Monday he went into the
gym and did the routine. Then on Tuesday he said he
wasn't able to do very much! You can be pretty sure he
hadn't considered any of the details. If he had, he
would not have been at the gym Tuesday, at least not
for a weight workout.

3. There's also the predilection issue. Some people
are "built" for some things. That is, they have
talents and abilities in some areas that others do
not. The fact that they have certain talents and
abilities makes it more probable that they will
venture into an area where they can make the greatest
use of those "genetically" enhanced abilities. For
instance, professional athletes are not professional
athletes merely because somebody explained to them how
to become a professional athlete. It's not simply
because they understood the mechanics of a particular
sport they were involved in, but they had certain
innate talents and abilities that were dictated by
their genetics. Because they had those talents and
abilities, they gravitated toward this activity and
with a bit of refinement in their knowledge of the
mechanics of the game, they became superior at playing
it. For example, I can't play basketball for the life
of me. I do not have the ability or the interest. I
could garner the help of every professional basketball
player that exists on the surface of the earth. Have
them teach me what they know (or believe), to be the
manner in which they became professional athletes. I
might improve, but without their genetic "talents" I
would only get "better" at best... Competitive
bodybuilders are not competitive bodybuilders simply
because one day they were setting in front of the TV
with their beer belly hanging down over their knees
and suddenly decided "Hey I think I'll go to the gym
and begin to exercise and I will keep doing this until
I become a competitive bodybuilder". It is extremely
important to remember that for the most part
competitive bodybuilders are genetically superior for
that activity. They are the way they are because of
their genetic programming, many times in 'SPITE" of
their workout routines. Add to this the fact that many
amateur and All professional bodybuilders take
handfuls of drugs, you have a considerably different
perception of how they became what they are. To a very
great extent they don't have a clue how they got
there, because they started out genetically superior
(for putting on muscle). They just followed the herd
of other genetically superior and chemically enhanced bodybuilders, as far
as routines and such. The genetically typical person doesn't have these
advantages, and must strive to understand the "science" of building muscle.
He must apply these principles in a way that takes into account his own
circumstances; for example, his ability to truly stress his musculature in a
high intensity way; his ability to concentrate every time; setting definite
goals (rather than "wishes") and pushing himself to meet or exceed them; his
attention to detail (recording workouts so goals can be set from previous
sessions).
I have also read messages from people who say they
have done static contraction training: they spent four
weeks doing it and, say they seemed to get weaker or
they spent six weeks doing it and then went back to
full range training and they had gotten weaker. Well
four to six weeks isn't long enough to say anything
with regard to static contraction training (or any
other training system for that matter). The reason:
for a period of time, when you start any new routine,
your body has to "learn" the movements; to become more efficient at
performing them. This is a highly individual thing. It might seem as if
there's a strength increase for instance, in the third week of doing static
contraction training. However what seems to be strength increases, might
simply be the body becoming more efficient at doing the movements; you can
handle more weight, but there has not really been
an increase in strength. Strength increases come
after the body has gotten more efficient at doing the
movement and you begin to actually stress the muscle.
So someone who has negative comments about static
contraction training who has only done it for a month
or two really has no opinion, because all they've
really done is changed their routine, not moved into
building strength and size. I've seen a few complaints regarding injury.
Basically if someone is injuring themselves with static contraction
training, it means they're going somewhere they shouldn't be yet. I've seen
this with myself as well as some other people I've trained. We become
inebriated with progress in the beginning and try to add the same amount of
weight every session. Part of the early increases, is the body becoming more
efficient at doing the exercise.
For instance, let's say you see a 50 pound increase
in bench press each time you perform it over a four
week period, but suddenly the next time you do bench
press (and add 50 lbs), you nearly break your wrist.
That's because of early "getting the hang of it"
adaptation, not true strength gains; but you become
"drunk" with the gains and think you can add that much
each time. Later gains will be a bit slower and jumps
in weight not necessarily that great.
4. Another human "quality" is what I call the "Eve
Syndrome". We humans tend to blame someone else or
something else for our own failings. It surely
couldn't be me, it must be the routine! One thing I
think is lacking in materials relating to static
contraction training is a treatise on how much the
mind is involved in making progress. Static
contraction training requires a great deal of
concentration and understanding of the movement. You
basically produce the greatest amount of intensity you
can possibly produce in a short period of time with a particular movement.
This absolutely requires you set a goal and doggedly reached for it (no
matter how uncomfortable it becomes). There is a huge difference between "I
will do 300 pounds" and "I wonder how much I will do this time" or "I hope I
do better this time". As I mentioned before I have explained the static
contraction system to people and observed them. What they were doing had
little resemblance to what I had explained to them.

5. Testimonials might help to sell things, but they
are very subjective. The facts are much better than
someone's "impression".

6. In my own case, I have added approx 20 lbs and my
strength has increased a great deal. I've been using
the Explosive Fitness machines for a little over a
year. 20 lean pounds doesn't sound like a huge amount,
but considering that I'm 47, have been bodybuilding
(and competing) for about 15 years, it is a very
significant increase. It does require some adjustment
to routine, diet and frequency to continue to make
gains, but that is to be expected. You become a
different you at each workout.


Anthony







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Anthony: Anthony, no offense but you sound like you are a partner with EF:::))) I agree with most of what you say and thank you for taking the time to go into...
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Hi Ron! Well, I'm not a partner! lol. My post really had to do with some of the things I've seen and read in general, not legitimate complaints. There are...
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