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Static Training: Is it really a MUSCLE building program? The answer   Message List  
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Hi Everyone,

I have been training following MIT training protocol for 5 months now with
training session intervals progressively growing from 4 day to as long as 4
weeks and based on my experience can testify only one thing now (that I
suspected all way along) - the static system of training is great for increasing
tendon and ligament strength BUT it doesn't affect muscle development to the
degree a classic full range of motion training would do. MIT had significantly
increased the digital readout numbers on my 1RepGym but failed to produce any
significant muscle growth and even more so every time I had 4 week rest periods
I had noticed that my muscles have actually shrunk not to mention I gained some
fat in the process. So MIT and static training could be a great tool to
supplement a more complex and well rounded training system that includes classic
full range of motion training and periodization principles but in no way it's
all in one simplest and best solution for muscle growth and muscle strength
increases. Unfortunately it takes a lot more than MIT to produce consistent
muscle growth and muscle strength gains.

The above is the opinion and observations of many on this forum - I just voiced
the results of my own experiment with MIT. Also these results don't mean that
I'm stopping the MIT training - I will just start supplementing MIT with full
range of motion exercises as I had have 100% proven to myself that MIT is
targeting development and strengthening of tendons and ligaments first and
foremost and not the muscles.

The links below make some additional points such as:

- why short range or static exercises target tendon and ligament development;
- why it takes much longer (weeks and not days) to properly recover from static
training than from regular full range of motion exercises;
- why this long recovery has nothing to do with muscle growth but rather repair
of tendons and ligaments to allow them to handle much heavier lifts;
- why it's important to not just train tendons and ligaments (static or short
range of motion training) or just muscles (classic full range of motion
training) but combine both training methods together to develop balanced muscles
and strength and avoid muscle and tendon/ligament injuries in a long term.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson18.htm
http://beastskills.blogspot.com/2005/02/tendon-strength.html

Enjoy your reading and your comments are welcome.

Best Regards,
Alex




Sun Apr 19, 2009 4:57 pm

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Hi Everyone, I have been training following MIT training protocol for 5 months now with training session intervals progressively growing from 4 day to as long...
Alex Pilosov
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Alex, If you look back on my posts, you will find that I had the same experience as you.  The former moderator of this group claimed that either I did not...
Ed White
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ps  this explains why the whole lot of static zealots look like shit (Shawn, Little, Sisco, and especially Tony Reno).  None of these guys even look like...
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I agree. I did use two exercises on biceps from the beginning: one in full contraction position and one at mid-range position - I did notice that in biceps...
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How about the risk of injury (torn tendons/ligament/muscles) with the mid-range statics? Isn't it higher than in full contraction statics? The full contraction...
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I didn't realize you were suggesting only metered statics and was actually thinking about weight-loaded protocol. Somehow when I do static with free weight I...
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... ps  this explains why the whole lot of static zealots look like shit (Shawn, Little, Sisco, and especially Tony Reno).  None of these guys even look like...
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Let's not compare real power lifters to to the people I mentioned.  These guys are hucksters making promises that statics cannot deliver.  My point is that...
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Guys, I've read all I can stand to read. I'm neither going to argue about the physiological aspects of MIT, nor get into a deep medical debate with you. I...
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Can you do everyone a favor and post a picture of you before and after the 3 years of training as well as your workout and body parts measurements? You can cut...
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... If you want pictures, why not just look at jmilton_666's photos of his progress (before a machine failure caused injury): ...
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Rick, See my reply to this earlier in the original another thread. Let me know if I didn't answer your questions. Alex...
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Paul (J Milton) clearly made good progress, but (and this is important)... he was doing a lot of pushups, martial arts and other exercises in addition to doing...
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Point is well made and illustrated....
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Ed, Didn't realize you were so enamored with hwo Tony, Pete, or I look. Thank you. Oh btw... I'll do one better on your challenge I have 3 GIRLS under 17 yrs...
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Ive tried dilligently for 18 months to make SCT work for me and I have not had any success. No visible muscle growth and hardly any increases in my numbers....
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try and be honest...... i have banned/barred 5 posts in the years i've been here. they were banned due to language (f bombs mostly and an inflammatory...
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I took his statement as he wrote it. So Shawn looks like "shit"? What exactly does that mean? What do you think your 100 people would think a statement like...
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