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Re: The Bar has been raised   Message List  
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Re: The Bar has been raised

The video is amazing. The amount of effort that the man is exerting appears
painful. Static contraction training is being independently tested and I am
anxious for the results. One hypothesis would be that you will develop full
range of motion strength if you can perform static holds at 3 or more levels of
an exercise. The machine in the video has that potential. But why not just do 6
second all out efforts at 3 different positions on a Stream line? Gages that
measure max and average effort would be a helpful training addition to either
machine. A quick release of the position (like the Smith Machine allows) on a
Streamline or One Rep machine may minimize the advantage of having a motor. It
appears these static machines and especially the improved models have the
potential to simplify workouts and help trainees reach their genetic potential
faster. I anxiously await the results of some of the ongoing studies.



--- In Explosive_Fitness@yahoogroups.com, Ed White <kitesurfer257@...> wrote:
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> Upon further observation, I believe that these machines can do more than you
can with spotters and weights.
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> Here are some important differences:
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> - with these machines you can do superslow - but apply full effort the entire
time.
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> - our eccentric strength is greater than concentric.  These machines allow you
to do negatives with more force than positves.  You can't do that with weights
unless someone presses down on the bar - and then it is guesswork.
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> - these machines eliminate momentum and ballistics.  You can't fire out of the
stretch.
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> More later...
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> Ed
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> --- On Tue, 4/7/09, mrkllyd <lazur@...> wrote:
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> From: mrkllyd <lazur@...>
> Subject: [Explosive_Fitness] Re: The Bar has been raised
> To: Explosive_Fitness@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 3:01 AM
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hand, but I think this is the first time McGuff used the equipment, and so, the
trainer's doing things a client -could- do after a little experience. Also, some
styles of personal training are very hands-on, keeping clients focused on pure
simple effort w/no technical distractions, but I'm not seeing anything here a
user couldn't do while working out alone.--- In Explosive_Fitness@ yahoogroups.
com, "petebmc" <petebmc@ > wrote:
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> > > Statics are great, but for those of us who want maximum strength and
muscle growth, the bar has just been raised.
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Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:13 pm

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Statics are great, but for those of us who want maximum strength and muscle growth, the bar has just been raised. This may very well be the future of strength...
Ed White
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Mar 4, 2009
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Ed, Looks very interesting - but the first thing that comes to my mind is that the additional intensity would come at the expense of heart and cardio health -...
Alex Pilosov
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Mar 4, 2009
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mrkllyd
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Mar 7, 2009
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Rindfleisch designed some leverage-based ,(manual),Max Contraction units. The multi-use piece was 12G. This motorized multi must be 40, AND WORTH IT, from what...
mrkllyd
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Mar 4, 2009
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  The intensity is controlled by the trainee, which is why it is like EF/MIT.  On the concentric you push as hard as you can (or want to) through the range...
Ed White
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But it takes two people to bench press...
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Upon further observation, I believe that these machines can do more than you can with spotters and weights.   Here are some important differences:   - with...
Ed White
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Apr 7, 2009
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The video is amazing. The amount of effort that the man is exerting appears painful. Static contraction training is being independently tested and I am anxious...
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