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Re: New XF7000 Pro Question

When you say the protocol, are you talking about the A/B workouts
they say you should use with the machine? Thx.


--- In Explosive_Fitness@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Bowyer
<adb1x1@y...> wrote:
>
> This really doesn't surprise me, since results (at
> least in building muscle) will be far below what is
> hyped. Not just because of the machine, but becuase
> the protocol itself.
>
> Anthony
>
> --- "William Holt Penninger, Jr."
> <artmusik@s...> wrote:
>
> > Still using the old equipment. You're right, a 30%
> > return rate does
> > sound high.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > Strictly speaking, there is no such thing as an
> > enlightened person.
> > There is only enlightened activity.
> >
> > SHUNRYU SUZUKI
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Explosive_Fitness@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:Explosive_Fitness@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> > Of rule1red
> > Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 8:59 PM
> > To: Explosive_Fitness@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Explosive_Fitness] Re: New XF7000 Pro
> > Question
> >
> > I'm just relaying exactly what was told to me. His
> > quote, "We're seeing
> > about 3 out of every 10 machines returned currently,
> > which we do
> > consider a little high."
> >
> > So how's your experience with this machine so far ?
> > Thx.
> >
> >
> > --- In Explosive_Fitness@yahoogroups.com, "William
> > Holt Penninger, Jr."
> > <artmusik@s...> wrote:
> > >
> > > " By the end of the conversation, the only
> > question he
> > > did answer was admitting that approx. 3 1/2 % of
> > the machines were
> > > being returned for a refund, which he said himself
> > was kind of higher
> > > than they expected. (That's more than 3 out of
> > every 10 machines
> > > sold !)"
> > >
> > > No, it's more than 3 out of every 100 machines
> > sold. Unless you meant
> > > that 35% of the machines were returned.
> > >
> > > From the beginning you are enlightened.
> > > SOEN NAKAGAWA
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Fri Oct 21, 2005 5:26 pm

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Hi, I was on the verge of buying the new XF7000 machine, and was wondering how people are making out with it results wise. I'm hearing that a pretty high...
rule1red
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Oct 20, 2005
11:24 am

I hadn't heard that. Where are you hearing this? Bill Strictly speaking, there is no such thing as an enlightened person. There is only enlightened activity. ...
William Holt Penninge...
artmusikaolcom
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Oct 20, 2005
11:40 am

To All People Considering New XF7000: I used the old equipment for just under a year and then bought the new equipment. I've only been using XF7000 for about...
jj_muscle_lady
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Oct 20, 2005
3:53 pm

Hi JJ, Thanks so much for the info. These are all things I'm considering, as this is a very expensive machine, and it's very hard to find any good info about...
rule1red
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Oct 21, 2005
12:10 am

" By the end of the conversation, the only question he did answer was admitting that approx. 3 1/2 % of the machines were being returned for a refund, which he...
William Holt Penninge...
artmusikaolcom
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Oct 21, 2005
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I'm just relaying exactly what was told to me. His quote, "We're seeing about 3 out of every 10 machines returned currently, which we do consider a little...
rule1red
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Oct 21, 2005
2:00 am

Still using the old equipment. You're right, a 30% return rate does sound high. Bill Strictly speaking, there is no such thing as an enlightened person. There...
William Holt Penninge...
artmusikaolcom
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Oct 21, 2005
3:04 am

This really doesn't surprise me, since results (at least in building muscle) will be far below what is hyped. Not just because of the machine, but becuase the...
Anthony Bowyer
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Oct 21, 2005
12:46 pm

When you say the protocol, are you talking about the A/B workouts they say you should use with the machine? Thx....
rule1red
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Oct 21, 2005
5:27 pm

I've come to realize that HIT (High Intensity Training) has some real flaws in many of it's basic concepts (as far a building muscle is concerned). By ...
Anthony Bowyer
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Oct 21, 2005
6:12 pm

So, if I'm following you correctly, you're saying that the A/B workouts are a form of HIT workouts, and don't really work that well, or they just don't work...
rule1red
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Oct 21, 2005
6:33 pm

Anthony: Since I got the XF7000, I've been following the A/B program and using the My Strength Coach to schedule the work-outs. Despite having many problems...
jj_muscle_lady
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Oct 21, 2005
10:54 pm

Hi Anthony I, too, would be very interested to hear more about the research you have done into HIT and the "flaws" that you have alluded to. You know, I think...
robber_jon
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Oct 22, 2005
1:08 pm

Actually, some are productive some aren't. Some are productive for a while, when the adherer to the protocol is new to weight training. Then, unfortunately,...
Anthony Bowyer
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Oct 22, 2005
3:42 pm

One of the things in life, whether fortunate or unfortunate is that often we do not know whether the theory, or "law" or "fact" or "perception", or "belief"...
staticcontractiontrai...
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Oct 23, 2005
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One thing you might want to consider...SCT has been around much longer than Sisco, Reno, Little and others who are proponents of Static Contraction Training....
Anthony Bowyer
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Oct 23, 2005
2:39 pm

Anthony, I agree. It is very important to look at all aspects of things. The TV series 24 is a cool analogy. We see the U.S. government as the "good guy" but a...
staticcontractiontrai...
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Oct 24, 2005
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Hello to everyone in the group. I am Tony Reno, founder of Explosive Fitness, and someone deeply interested in the topic of this site. Naturally I have been...
xftonyreno
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Oct 24, 2005
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First of I would like to thank John Little, Pete Sisco and Tony Reno for them being pioneers. John and Pete for furthering the research on static contraction...
Apideh
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Nov 4, 2005
7:25 am

Bill, 3% is 3 out of 100, not 3 out of 10. If you read the original message, artmusik is making a mathematics mistake. The number quoted was 3%. That quote,...
xftonyreno
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Oct 24, 2005
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Tony, Actually, Tony, Bill is ArtMusiK & I did not make a mathematical error. In my Thursday, 10/20/05 post (which is included below), I was quoting from a...
William Holt Penninge...
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Oct 25, 2005
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3 1/2% is not 3 out of 10 it's .3 out of 10 or 3 and 1/2 out of 100. just basic math. ... From: Explosive_Fitness@yahoogroups.com ...
Richard Jackowski
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Oct 24, 2005
11:27 am

Hi JJ, I am going to send you my home office phone number via email and hopefully we can get most of these issues fixed for you. Re: 1, getting scratched by...
xftonyreno
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Oct 24, 2005
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Tony, Like you, I truly do not want this forum to degrade into a bashing scene for either the static contraction method or the XF company. I don't know what...
jj_muscle_lady
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Oct 26, 2005
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The fault lies not in our stars, but in ourselves - Shakespeare Hi JJ, Thanks for giving me the dates. In a typical day I get over 600 emails, after having...
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