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#271 From: Thurman Woodfork <tpwoodfork@...>
Date: Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:15 am
Subject: Fwd: Fw: HAPPY ST. PATRICK'S DAY
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T.P. Woodfork
www.8thwood.com
"You can't pray a lie."
--Huckleberry Finn


#270 From: "Kara" <karadione@...>
Date: Mon Feb 9, 2009 5:11 pm
Subject: Re: Recent convention news for all wondering
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Sweety, Camp Dover has been canceled and rescheduled for 2010 
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: 2/7/2009 10:39:59 AM
Subject: [EarlJonesgroup] Recent convention news for all wondering
 
Due to a lack of cash/money, I will not be able to go to Dover Peace Conference, unless someone pays it for myself, my mother, and my fiance.
 
Edward Jones/Lord Dragonis
http://www.geocities.com/newageneogoth/index.html
""The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of thousands is a statistic" - Josef Stalin



From: "EarlJonesgroup@yahoogroups.com" <EarlJonesgroup@yahoogroups.com>
To: EarlJonesgroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2009 5:39:13 AM
Subject: [EarlJonesgroup] Digest Number 113

Messages In This Digest (1 Message)

1.
Fwd: A PICTURE OF LOVE From: Thurman Woodfork

Message

1.

Fwd: A PICTURE OF LOVE

Posted by: "Thurman Woodfork" tpwoodfork@...   mtclemens2000

Fri Feb 6, 2009 6:26 pm (PST)

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Thurman Woodfork <tpwoodfork@gmail. com>
Date: Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:22 PM
Subject: Fwd: A PICTURE OF LOVE
To:

*Reminds me of a poem: **http://www.8thwood. com/trilogy_ _weeping_ robins1.htm
* <http://www.8thwood. com/trilogy_ _weeping_ robins1.htm>
**
*T.P. Woodfork*
*www.8thwood. com* <http://www.8thwood. com/>
*"You can't pray a lie."*
*--Huckleberry Finn*

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Johel Ortiz
Subject: Fwd: A PICTURE OF LOVE

*CAN BIRDS HAVE "FEELINGS" OF LOVE AND COMPASSION?? ??*

*Here his wife is injured and the condition is very appalling.*

<http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/MYUMMAH1>*

**Here he brings her food and attends to her with love and compassion*

<http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/MYUMMAH1>*
He b**rings her food but realizes she has died after he tries to move
her*<http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/MYUMMAH1>
.. *
*
<http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/MYUMMAH1>*
**He ** **he cries with adoring love.*

*
He sta**nds** ** beside her and scream**s,** **saddened of her
death*<http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/MYUMMAH1>
*

* <http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/MYUMMAH1>*
Finally he becomes aware that she would not return to him, and stands beside
her body in deep sorrow.*
*
These photographs, taken in the Ukraine , shows how a bird tries desperately
to save his partner. When these pictures were printed in a newspaper,
millions were touched. **The photographer sold these pictures for a nominal
price to a popular newspaper in France and all copies were sold out.* *

Love is not finding someone to live with; it's finding someone you can't
live without- Rafael Ortiz*

--
T.P. Woodfork
www.8thwood. com
"You can't pray a lie."
--Huckleberry Finn
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    #269 From: Thurman Woodfork <tpwoodfork@...>
    Date: Sun Feb 8, 2009 5:07 am
    Subject: Fwd: Ford Trucks
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    No comment.

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    "You can't pray a lie."
    --Huckleberry Finn

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: Vernon


    Ford Trucks

     

    Finally a valid and verifiable claim by a truck manufacturer

    That clearly shows that his truck is superior to all the competition.

     

    Read it and weep all you Chevy, GMC, Dodge, International,

    Toyota and any other truck guys.

    Here's positive proof that

    Ford trucks are built TOUGH

      

     





    #268 From: Robert Langenderfer <rlangenderfer@...>
    Date: Sat Feb 7, 2009 5:08 pm
    Subject: Re: Recent convention news for all wondering
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    The Dover convention has been postponed until next year.  Some people are gathering instead this year up at Marcon in Columbus over Memorial Day weekend.
                                       All the best,
                                       Rob Langenderfer

    --- On Sat, 2/7/09, Lord Dragonis <newageneogoth@...> wrote:
    From: Lord Dragonis <newageneogoth@...>
    Subject: [EarlJonesgroup] Recent convention news for all wondering
    To: EarlJonesgroup@yahoogroups.com
    Date: Saturday, February 7, 2009, 4:39 PM

    Due to a lack of cash/money, I will not be able to go to Dover Peace Conference, unless someone pays it for myself, my mother, and my fiance.
     
    Edward Jones/Lord Dragonis
    http://www.geocitie s.com/newageneog oth/index. html
    ""The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of thousands is a statistic" - Josef Stalin



    From: "EarlJonesgroup@ yahoogroups. com" <EarlJonesgroup@ yahoogroups. com>
    To: EarlJonesgroup@ yahoogroups. com
    Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2009 5:39:13 AM
    Subject: [EarlJonesgroup] Digest Number 113

    Messages In This Digest (1 Message)

    1.
    Fwd: A PICTURE OF LOVE From: Thurman Woodfork

    Message

    1.

    Fwd: A PICTURE OF LOVE

    Posted by: "Thurman Woodfork" tpwoodfork@gmail. com   mtclemens2000

    Fri Feb 6, 2009 6:26 pm (PST)

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: Thurman Woodfork <tpwoodfork@gmail. com>
    Date: Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:22 PM
    Subject: Fwd: A PICTURE OF LOVE
    To:

    *Reminds me of a poem: **http://www.8thwood. com/trilogy_ _weeping_ robins1.htm
    * <http://www.8thwood. com/trilogy_ _weeping_ robins1.htm>
    **
    *T.P. Woodfork*
    *www.8thwood. com* <http://www.8thwood. com/>
    *"You can't pray a lie."*
    *--Huckleberry Finn*

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: Johel Ortiz
    Subject: Fwd: A PICTURE OF LOVE

    *CAN BIRDS HAVE "FEELINGS" OF LOVE AND COMPASSION?? ??*

    *Here his wife is injured and the condition is very appalling.*

    <http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/MYUMMAH1>*

    **Here he brings her food and attends to her with love and compassion*

    <http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/MYUMMAH1>*
    He b**rings her food but realizes she has died after he tries to move
    her*<http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/MYUMMAH1>
    . *
    *
    <http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/MYUMMAH1>*
    **He ** **he cries with adoring love.*

    *
    He sta**nds** ** beside her and scream**s,** **saddened of her
    death*<http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/MYUMMAH1>
    *

    * <http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/MYUMMAH1>*
    Finally he becomes aware that she would not return to him, and stands beside
    her body in deep sorrow.*
    *
    These photographs, taken in the Ukraine , shows how a bird tries desperately
    to save his partner. When these pictures were printed in a newspaper,
    millions were touched. **The photographer sold these pictures for a nominal
    price to a popular newspaper in France and all copies were sold out.* *

    Love is not finding someone to live with; it's finding someone you can't
    live without- Rafael Ortiz*

    --
    T.P. Woodfork
    www.8thwood. com
    "You can't pray a lie."
    --Huckleberry Finn
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      #267 From: Lord Dragonis <newageneogoth@...>
      Date: Sat Feb 7, 2009 4:39 pm
      Subject: Recent convention news for all wondering
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      Due to a lack of cash/money, I will not be able to go to Dover Peace Conference, unless someone pays it for myself, my mother, and my fiance.
       
      Edward Jones/Lord Dragonis
      http://www.geocities.com/newageneogoth/index.html
      ""The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of thousands is a statistic" - Josef Stalin



      From: "EarlJonesgroup@yahoogroups.com" <EarlJonesgroup@yahoogroups.com>
      To: EarlJonesgroup@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2009 5:39:13 AM
      Subject: [EarlJonesgroup] Digest Number 113

      EarlJonesgroup

      Messages In This Digest (1 Message)

      1.
      Fwd: A PICTURE OF LOVE From: Thurman Woodfork

      Message

      1.

      Fwd: A PICTURE OF LOVE

      Posted by: "Thurman Woodfork" tpwoodfork@...   mtclemens2000

      Fri Feb 6, 2009 6:26 pm (PST)

      ---------- Forwarded message ----------
      From: Thurman Woodfork <tpwoodfork@gmail. com>
      Date: Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:22 PM
      Subject: Fwd: A PICTURE OF LOVE
      To:

      *Reminds me of a poem: **http://www.8thwood. com/trilogy_ _weeping_ robins1.htm
      * <http://www.8thwood. com/trilogy_ _weeping_ robins1.htm>
      **
      *T.P. Woodfork*
      *www.8thwood. com* <http://www.8thwood. com/>
      *"You can't pray a lie."*
      *--Huckleberry Finn*

      ---------- Forwarded message ----------
      From: Johel Ortiz
      Subject: Fwd: A PICTURE OF LOVE

      *CAN BIRDS HAVE "FEELINGS" OF LOVE AND COMPASSION?? ??*

      *Here his wife is injured and the condition is very appalling.*

      <http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/MYUMMAH1>*

      **Here he brings her food and attends to her with love and compassion*

      <http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/MYUMMAH1>*
      He b**rings her food but realizes she has died after he tries to move
      her*<http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/MYUMMAH1>
      . *
      *
      <http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/MYUMMAH1>*
      **He ** **he cries with adoring love.*

      *
      He sta**nds** ** beside her and scream**s,** **saddened of her
      death*<http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/MYUMMAH1>
      *

      * <http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/MYUMMAH1>*
      Finally he becomes aware that she would not return to him, and stands beside
      her body in deep sorrow.*
      *
      These photographs, taken in the Ukraine , shows how a bird tries desperately
      to save his partner. When these pictures were printed in a newspaper,
      millions were touched. **The photographer sold these pictures for a nominal
      price to a popular newspaper in France and all copies were sold out.* *

      Love is not finding someone to live with; it's finding someone you can't
      live without- Rafael Ortiz*

      --
      T.P. Woodfork
      www.8thwood. com
      "You can't pray a lie."
      --Huckleberry Finn
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      #266 From: Thurman Woodfork <tpwoodfork@...>
      Date: Sat Feb 7, 2009 2:26 am
      Subject: Fwd: A PICTURE OF LOVE
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      ---------- Forwarded message ----------
      From: Thurman Woodfork <tpwoodfork@...>
      Date: Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:22 PM
      Subject: Fwd: A PICTURE OF LOVE
      To:


       
      T.P. Woodfork
      "You can't pray a lie."
      --Huckleberry Finn

      ---------- Forwarded message ----------
      From: Johel Ortiz
      Subject: Fwd: A PICTURE OF LOVE


      CAN BIRDS HAVE "FEELINGS" OF LOVE AND COMPASSION????



       
       
      Here his wife is injured and the condition is very appalling.




      Here he brings her food and attends to her with love and compassion


      He b
      rings her food but realizes she has died after he tries to move her. 


      He   he cries with adoring love.


      He sta
      nds  beside her and screams,  saddened of her death



      Finally he becomes aware that she would not return to him, and stands beside her body in deep sorrow.
       

      These photographs, taken in the Ukraine , shows how a bird tries desperately to save his partner. When these pictures were printed in a newspaper, millions were touched.  
      The photographer sold these pictures for a nominal price to a popular newspaper in France and all copies were sold out. 

      Love is not finding someone to live with; it's finding someone you can't live without- Rafael Ortiz
       




      --
      T.P. Woodfork
      www.8thwood.com
      "You can't pray a lie."
      --Huckleberry Finn

      #265 From: Thurman Woodfork <tpwoodfork@...>
      Date: Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:53 pm
      Subject: Garland Young
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      Garland has been released from the hospital and is home. He got home yesterday. I talked with him around 2 PM EST today. He says he's doing well now despite the hole in his groin and upper leg. Doctors removed a baseball sized tumor from that area, plus he had considerable infection in the region. But I guess all's well that ends well. He can be contacted at 1-208-806-8734.
       
      That was quite an experience he had. The first time he went to the VA   they sent him home with antibiotics. The second time he went back, he was in an ambulance. He couldn't maintain his balance and had collapsed on the floor. He's too big a man for his son to lift, even with his wife's assistance. 
       
      His wife was instructed how to change his bandages and repack the hole in his groin. He had an experience or two with some doctors who didn't understand PTSD and decided to play some stupid games with him while repacking his wound. He says they actually pretended to play basketball with him. Can you imagine? The pain medication he was on had him half out of it and he didn't know what they were doing. He thought they were patients who'd stolen doctor's outfits and were were playing some weird joke on him. Somebody definitely needs to have their asses whipped.
       
      I still can't get back on NAMVETS-L, so I'd appreciate it if one of you would forward this message to that list.

      --
      T.P. Woodfork
      www.8thwood.com
      "You can't pray a lie."
      --Huckleberry Finn


      #264 From: Thurman Woodfork <tpwoodfork@...>
      Date: Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:46 pm
      Subject: Fwd: FW: [VeteranIssues] World War One Memorial proposed for National Mall
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      The last time I visited the WW-I memorial, they had a chain link fence around it. I guess that was to protect visitors from the potential danger posed by the crumbling masonry. That was about two years ago. I'll bet most folks don't even know the WW-I Memorial is there on the National Mall. It's between the Korean War Memorial and the WW-II Memorial, closer to the WW-II Memorial. Although this memorial is on the National Mall, it was erected by the District of Columbia, not the federal government.

       

      --

      T.P. Woodfork

      www.8thwood.com

      "You can't pray a lie."

      --Huckleberry Finn

       

      ---------- Forwarded message ----------

      From: Colonel Dan

      Subject: [VeteranIssues] FW: World War One Memorial proposed for National Mall...

       

      http://www.wwimemorial.org/

       

      The World War I Memorial Foundation

       

      In 2017 the United States will commemorate the centennial of its entry into World War I. Nearly 5 million Americans served during the war, and 116,561 Americans died in defense of democracy overseas. America's support of its allies in World War I marked the first time in this nation's history that American soldiers went abroad to defend foreign soil against aggression -- and it marked the true beginning of "the American century."

       

      Yet while the later conflicts of the 20th century - World War II, the Korean War, and the Vietnam War -- rightfully have national memorials on the Mall, there is no such memorial to "the Great War," even though more Americans gave their lives in World War I than in Korea or Vietnam.

       

      In 1931 the residents of Washington, DC dedicated a memorial to the 499 residents of the District of Columbia who gave their lives in that war. That memorial now sits neglected and in disrepair, along the Lincoln Reflecting Pool between the World War II and Korean War Memorials. It is often overlooked by residents and visitors to Washington.

       

      On March 6, 2008, Frank Buckles, the last surviving American veteran of World War I, visited the DC War Memorial. He called for restoration of the memorial, and for its rededication as a National and District of Columbia World War I Memorial.

       

      The World War I Memorial Foundation was formed to make Frank Buckles' dream a reality. The mission of the Foundation is to raise funds for the restoration of the DC War Memorial, and to sponsor and secure legislation for the re-dedication of the site. Legislation has been introduced in Congress, and the Foundation has begun raising funds to establish a true national memorial.

       

      Please help honor America's veterans of World War I, by writing your Congressman and Senator, contacting your local chapter of the Veterans of Foreign Wars and American Legion, and by donating generously to the National World War I Foundation.

       

       

      From: David DeJonge [mailto:studio@...]

      Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 3:46 PM

      To: Colonel-Dan@...

      Subject: World War One Memorial proposed for National Mall...

        

      Hi Col. Dan:

       

      My name is David DeJonge and I am the President of the WWI Memorial foundation (DC). I am wondering if you could rally for our cause by alerting as many people as you could about the fight for a memorial on the national mall? Frank Buckles (Americas last WWI veterans) has made it his last fight to bring honor along side of the other great veterans from the wars of the 20th century in our Nations Capitol. We have set up the following website with information about the cause: WWIMEMORIAL.org

       

      Congressmen Ted Poe from TX has introduced a bill (HR 482) to get things started. We are looking for people willing to activate and mobilize to request their congressmen sponsor the bill and sign it into law before Mr. Buckles dies, he turns 108 in one week.

       

      Here is another video on the cause: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZTaeOmzpz0&feature=channel_page

       

      I thank you for your service to our Nation.

       

      Respectfully,

       

      David

      www.dejongestudio.com

       

      To contact David please call: 616-540-4922

       

      In case of an emergency or, for any media requests for photograph usage and licensing including but not limited to broadcast, print and internet please call 616-540-4922.

       

      Images are copy written 2008 David J. DeJonge. Unauthorized reproduction, forwarding, posting to websites and or duplication in any shape or form is strictly forbidden. All International Copyright Laws Apply.

       

      Notice: This e-mail message and any attachments are solely for the confidential use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read this message or any attachments, and please do not distribute or act in reliance on this message. If you have received this message by mistake, please notify us immediately by return e-mail and promptly delete this message and any attachments from your computer system.

       

      "In times of crisis and decision a person's true character is revealed."

      David DeJonge

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      #263 From: Thurman Woodfork <tpwoodfork@...>
      Date: Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:32 pm
      Subject: Fwd: Those Beautiful Old Gas Stations
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      ---------- Forwarded message ----------
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      Gas Stations Of Yesteryear
       
       
       
       
      Old American Gas Stations from all around the country
       
       
       
      Some are abandoned, some are restored and many are still in use.
       


      In the next picture, notice the kid jumping on the bell hose.
       
      YOU ever done that?






      .
























      Noti ce the prices on the next one.
       
      Yes that's only $ ..34 for Hi test
       
      And $ .28 for regular.
       
      Oh, don't forget the 9/10% of a penny. 














       
       
      Yeah . . . I remember!
      And with a fill-up you got.
      The gas pumped for you,
      Your windshield cleaned,
      Oil & fluids checked,
      Tires checked,
      A free map, if you wanted it.
      And greeted in ENGLISH !!!
      Yeah! I remember!!! 
       
       
      --
      T.P. Woodfork
      www.8thwood.com
      "You can't pray a lie."
      --Huckleberry Finn


      #262 From: Thurman Woodfork <tpwoodfork@...>
      Date: Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:50 pm
      Subject: Fwd: 44 Presidents in Morphing succession
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      ---------- Forwarded message ----------
      From: JerseyShoreGuy


      44 Presidents in  Morphing succession.

      A terrific visual sequence and a mini-history lesson.  


      --
      T.P. Woodfork
      www.8thwood.com
      "You can't pray a lie."
      --Huckleberry Finn


      #261 From: "Thurman Woodfork" <tpwoodfork@...>
      Date: Tue Jan 20, 2009 2:02 am
      Subject: Fwd: Garland Young
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      I just received a call from Mary, Garland's wife. He's in the hospital and seriously ill. He has infections in his legs and groin area, and apparent kidney failure. They took him to the VA Wednesday, where he was given antibiotics for the infections and sent home. By Saturday, he was becoming delirious and eventually started to have difficulty maintaining his balance. He fell several times. He was taken to the hospital by ambulance Saturday, where they apparently decided to take a real look at him and discovered how seriously ill he really is. Mary says they have not given her a prognosis as yet. God bless the VA.Their phone number is 1- 228-265-4330.

      tbass, I'm having trouble getting back on NAMVETS-L, so will you please pass the word along?



      --
      T.P. Woodfork
      www.8thwood.com
      "You can't pray a lie."
      --Huckleberry Finn

      #260 From: Lord Dragonis <newageneogoth@...>
      Date: Wed Dec 10, 2008 1:24 pm
      Subject: (No subject)
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      .....disturbing.....
       
      Edward Jones/Lord Dragonis
      http://www.geocities.com/newageneogoth/index.html
      ""The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of thousands is a statistic" - Josef Stalin


      #259 From: "T.P. Woodfork" <woodfork121121@...>
      Date: Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:46 am
      Subject: RE: My Email
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      Out looking for the nekkid wimmen.

       

      Woody

      "You can't pray a lie."

      --Huckleberry Finn

      www.8thwood.com

      Three_Soldiers_Close_Up

       

      From: Faye
      Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 11:47 PM
      To: EarlJonesgroup@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [EarlJonesgroup] My Email

       

      Well,I have..Where are the nekid min??



      --- On Tue, 12/9/08, woodfork121121@... <woodfork121121@...> wrote:

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      To:
      Date: Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 9:47 PM

      It seems that Comcast had decided that most of what is being sent to me is spam. Accordingly, it is returning most of those messages as undeliverable junk. I'm informed that they're “working on the problem.” I am so relieved.  In the meantime, be advised that I have not turned into a hermit, am not, unaccountably, harboring some nameless grudge, or have finally fully entered my dotage and have gone happily off in search of nekkid wimmen. Peace.

       

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      and even the ambitious. But
      it cannot survive treason
      from within." -- Cicero


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      #258 From: Faye <fray68@...>
      Date: Wed Dec 10, 2008 4:47 am
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      Well,I have..Where are the nekid min??



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      Subject: [EarlJonesgroup] My Email
      To:
      Date: Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 9:47 PM

      It seems that Comcast had decided that most of what is being sent to me is spam. Accordingly, it is returning most of those messages as undeliverable junk. I'm informed that they're “working on the problem.” I am so relieved.  In the meantime, be advised that I have not turned into a hermit, am not, unaccountably, harboring some nameless grudge, or have finally fully entered my dotage and have gone happily off in search of nekkid wimmen. Peace.

       

      --
      T. P. Woodfork

      www.8thwood. com 
      "A Nation can survive its fools
      and even the ambitious. But
      it cannot survive treason
      from within." -- Cicero


      #257 From: woodfork121121@...
      Date: Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:47 am
      Subject: My Email
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      It seems that Comcast had decided that most of what is being sent to me is spam. Accordingly, it is returning most of those messages as undeliverable junk. I'm informed that they're “working on the problem.” I am so relieved.  In the meantime, be advised that I have not turned into a hermit, am not, unaccountably, harboring some nameless grudge, or have finally fully entered my dotage and have gone happily off in search of nekkid wimmen. Peace.

       

      --
      T. P. Woodfork

      www.8thwood.com 
      "A Nation can survive its fools
      and even the ambitious. But
      it cannot survive treason
      from within." -- Cicero

      #256 From: woodfork121121@...
      Date: Sun Dec 7, 2008 2:29 am
      Subject: FW: Electric drag racing.
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      Mind-boggling! A battery-powered muscle car! This thing repeatedly blew the doors off a Corvette - among others - in the quarter mile.

       

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      From: Johel Ortiz
      Subject: Fwd: Fw: RE: Electric drag racing.

       

       

      This is very interesting!!!

       

       

       

      Check this out! Listen closely to the ETs (elapsed times) this thing is turning in, with a "sleeper" '72 Datsun!!

      Not only is this guy environmentally "correct," he's the King of the Quarter Mile!

      I don't care what's powering this thing, it's way cool!



      http://www.opb.org/programs/ofg/videos/view/56-Electric-Drag-Racing

      #255 From: woodfork121121@...
      Date: Thu Dec 4, 2008 10:59 pm
      Subject: PTSD and Holidays - by Patience Mason
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      The following article is by Patience Mason:

      An article I wrote in 97 which has helped many vets and their families. Please pass it on to anyone it might help.

      PTSD and Holidays
      Most people do not realize that people with PTSD have anniversary reactions. Holidays may also be anniversaries of trauma and bring up a lot of pain. This is one of the most distressing forms of reexperiencing for survivors and their families.

      If the survivor doesn't recognize that this is one of the symptoms of PTSD, he or she may feel like Scrooge instead of like a normal human being who went through hell at that time of the year.

      If the family doesn't understand that this is a PTSD anniversary reaction, they may be very angry at the survivor. "What is wrong with you?" is a heart-rending, humiliating question when the survivor doesn't know why s/he reacts like this.

      If your veteran spent a particularly horrible Christmas seeing villagers lose all they had, seeing friends die, seeing the fat cats in the rear partying while the troops were suffering, he may have a hard time with Christmas. If your abusive father tore up the Christmas tree every year, if your uncle molested you at the family get together when you were eight, if you got mugged while out Christmas shopping, or date raped after an office party, or if your violent family pretended nothing was wrong during the holidays, these upcoming holidays may be a hard time for you. This is a normal reaction.

      Holidays are also a really stressful time for many trauma survivors because they seem to reinforce the outsiderness of being a survivor of trauma. Everyone else seems so happy while your guts are twisted into knots as you think about past events. For veterans and other survivors, this pain can be compounded by grief for lost friends and their families who now face the holidays without those loved ones who didn't survive. Guilt may also rear its painful head. Why did I survive?

      The financial difficulties many trauma survivors experience are highlighted by the commercialization of the holidays. There are a lot of pressures to conform.

      One of my first healthy actions in my marriage was to decide that Bob didn't have to celebrate Christmas after he came back from Vietnam. I loved it so I should celebrate it and let him be him. I have no idea where that idea came from but it saved me a lot of fights. Today I look back on it as a miracle, accepting Bob as he was, and detaching in a healthy way. I think this is an important point for all trauma survivors and their families: Let the people who love the holiday celebrate it, and the people for whom it brings pain don't have to. This may cause problems with the extended family or the kids, but treating the survivor with respect is one healing way to frame it: "We have to respect other people's feelings and limits," can be a healthy way to put it.

      We can also create our own ways of celebrating the holidays. We don't have to conform to a rigid commercial stereotype of piles of expensive gifts and big gatherings. As a matter of fact one thing that trauma can bring you face to face with is the value of people as opposed to things. We're starting a tradition in our crowd this year (a number of whom are trauma survivors and veterans) of homemade, recycled, or under $5 gifts. Ingenuity and fun!

      Many survivors are not comfortable in crowds or at parties, but a quiet meaningful celebration, say singing carols in the living room with just the tree lights on, may be something they can participate in. They may not want to trim the tree, but going out to cut it down or pick it out may be okay. I am mentioning Christmas traditions here because that is what I grew up with, but I'm sure that Hanukkah and Kwanzaa celebrations can be as low-keyed and spiritual as the survivor needs them to be.

      Survivors may need to create new rituals to help in their healing. For instance a veteran who lost friends in combat on Christmas may want to feed the homeless (many of whom are combat veterans) instead of participating in a big family dinner with people who may or may not appreciate his service. He may need to go to a special place and tell his lost buddies how much he misses them and wishes they had lived. Someone else may want to help provide Christmas presents for children of poor families or for other survivors of trauma. The range of possibilities is limited only by the imagination.

      If all you want to do is stay drunk or stoned through the holidays, it might be good to find help instead. No one wants to be providing traumatic memories for the next generation. What you do while drunk or stoned can be pretty unpleasant for others, and especially painful for family members of both the spouse variety and the small-fry variety. 12 step meetings happen even on holidays like Christmas and New Year's. I'm going to be at my ACOA meeting Christmas Eve. Sobriety is better than big presents. Harder, too.

      Crass commercialization and shop till you drop take the fun out of the holiday for me. So does having religion shoved down my throat, but I find that I can celebrate the birth of a child who represents all children to me and use it as an opportunity for me to do good in the world. Perhaps you and your family can do the same.
      Holiday Helps: Asking for input and creating family traditions:

      As I mentioned before, when Jack was a kid, he and I had our own Christmas without making Bob participate. This is called politeness, although my principal reason was selfishness, wanting my kind of Christmas. Selfishness created a healthy boundary in that case.

      Something I didn't think of at the time was asking for input, which is also polite. Rituals For Our Times, by Evan Imber-Black and Janine Roberts (Harper, 1992, $12.00) has a wonderful chapter on holidays and a whole section called "Making Meaningful Rituals." Among other things, they suggest that planning, discussing and getting input from family members can prevent disappointments. Planning small changes in existing family traditions instead of trying to change everything at once is also easier.

      Sometimes family traditions are out of balance and only please one side of the family or one spouse or whatever. To fix this, ask what the other person would like to do for the holidays. Say something like: "Maybe we could figure out some new things we could do that we would all like and could do together. Then the kids and I could do the stuff we like without pushing you to be involved."

      Your spouse may never have thought about what he or she would like to do. I suggest not expecting an answer right away-maybe not even till next year. Just let him or her know you are interested in discussing it and open to change. People resist doing things they haven't been involved in. Planning or contributing to an event can give them a sense of being valued and having some control.

      One final point, without them being aware of it, some traditional activities may clash with issues of safety for survivors. For instance, if Vince Veteran never puts up the Christmas lights despite endless nagging, perhaps it is because in Vietnam the night belonged to Charlie. By lighting up the house at night, he is attracting attention to his nearest and dearest, the kind of attention that could get you killed in Vietnam. Bringing this to consciousness--the need to keep the family safe--may help him get such a natural need met in a more appropriate way--like buying new tires for the car or better locks for the doors. Examining your traditions with that in mind can be rewarding.

      Let go of outdated traditions or modify them to suit today. With our without the help of your survivor, you can sit down with whoever else in the family wants to celebrate. Have each person list what is fun for him or her. Do the things everyone likes doing. Let go of what has become a burden or what you think others should do or you should do. You can always go back to doing something if you miss it! Example: I like filling stockings for everyone and I thought they should fill mine. Now I get my own stocking stuffers. It is a lot of fun getting a stocking full of stuff I really like instead of an empty one full of hard feelings. I've also dropped creamed onions, cornbread dressing and mince pie!

      Discussing what the family might like to do can be empowering for your children because it gives them a chance to move on to more age appropriate activities as they grow up. This may be hard for the parents, but I suggest that you can hang your own stockings or have your own quiet holiday dinner.

      Some new family traditions you might try:

      Looking up at the stars can be a beautiful experience of the glory of nature. According to December's Discover magazine, this December [1997] the sky is going to be swarming with planets at twilight. "Every bright 'star' to the left of the sunset is a planet... This is a show that airs before prime time, so observe early. After 9 PM only Saturn remains... This year the natural holiday lights are on display for even the youngest of Earth's appreciative sky watchers."

      Get out of the house: Making snow angels is one of my favorite pastimes. There is nothing that helps me recreate the feeling of being a happy kid again like falling over backwards into the snow and waving my arms and legs. Too bad it never snows in Florida! Snow men, snowball fights (no ice balls, please), snow forts, snowy walks, cross country skiing, sledding, ice skating all can be family fun activities. In the south, walks in the woods, canoeing, kayaking, fishing, bicycle rides are still options.

      Decorating with natural materials is another thing I like to do. Grapevine wreaths with gold or silver pinecones, magnolia cones, acorns, berries and any weird seed pods I can find give me a sense of satisfaction no store bought wreath ever brought. Look around and be inventive. I also have a wreath made of rusty barbwire which my friend Marci gave me. As a survivor, she feels a little Scroogey at Christmas. I like it!

      Recycled and home made decorations (and gifts) bring family members together, minimize the wastage of natural resources, and increase our own resourcefulness and independence in a healthy creative way. For some of us it is important not to contribute to corporate profits. Paper chains and pomanders (oranges covered with cloves) are great home made decorations. Buying cloves in bulk at an oriental grocery store or a health food store makes pomanders affordable. They smell great!

      Doing stuff for others. One veteran I know has been feeding the homeless for the last nine years on holidays.

      I buy books to contribute to the local newspaper's Christmas book giving program for disadvantaged kids. This is a living amends to a poor little girl to whom Jack wanted to give one of his books when he was 5. I wouldn't let him.

      Battered women's shelters always need stuff as do homeless shelters, nursing homes, hospitals and churches.

      You can adopt a family if you are well off, or contribute a few cans of food or a toy if you are not. Whatever you give will benefit you as well as those you help. Altruistic people actually are healthier than those who are not!

      You can do any of these as a memorial to someone who was lost or abused.

      Doing stuff for yourself: Provide yourself with something you didn't get that you needed. Maybe this is a grown woman buying her inner child a Barbie doll, maybe it is a veteran presenting himself with a certificate of thanks for his service. Look inside. People who love you would like to do this for you, too. Let them know if they can help somehow.

      Ask people what you could get them within your price range. Tell people what you want. Talking about presents is hard for some of us. I thought I should be able to find the perfect present with no input. Now I ask. I used to expect Bob to know what I liked and wanted. Now I give him guidelines.

      Our crowd is having a homemade, recycled or under $5.00 Christmas again. We gave each other some really funny presents last year. If someone has given you something expensive you hated, this year you can recycle it to someone who might like it. I get wonderful containers at garage sales and fill them with cookies or rum balls or spiced pecans so it is homemade and recycled!

      Talk to each other: Go for the quiet evening at home together. Many of us never sit down and talk because we are so swept away in the demands of daily living. Make a date and simply talk. What about? About what the holidays and/or the family means to you.

      Accept the fact that kids are naturally self-centered and needy but can develop great kindness. A parents job is not to suppress these natural characteristics, but to encourage awareness of others and empathy. People used to think small children were little demons, but they are actually very kind and willing to give of themselves and help others. One great family tradition is to tell them that some little kids need toys and help them weed out ones they want to give away.

      Give each child something that will give him or her a feeling of specialness. It needn't be expensive. Magic markers and a pad of paper gave Jack many wonderful hours of fun. I still treasure his creations.¦

      Happy Holidays


      Patience Mason

      Copyright Patience H. C, Mason, 1997. First published in The Post-Traumatic Gazette #16.
      All rights reserved, except that permission is hereby granted to freely reproduce and distribute this document, provided the text is reproduced unaltered and entire (including this notice)
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      #254 From: woodfork121121@...
      Date: Mon Dec 1, 2008 2:58 am
      Subject: FW: Wal-Mart
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      Sounds like a plan, to me.

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      From: Vern

      HOW BIG IS WAL-MART?


      This should boggle your mind!!
      And scare you as well!

        HOW BIG IS WAL-MART?

      1 .
      At Wal-Mart,
      Americans spend $36,000,000 every hour
      of every day.

      2 .
      This works out to $20,928 profit
      every minute!

      3.
      Wal-Mart will sell more
      from January 1 to St. Patrick's Day (March 17th)
      than Target sells all year.

      4.
      Wal-Mart is bigger than Home Depot +
      Kroger + Target + Sears + Costco +
      K-Mart combined.

      5.
      Wal-Mart employs 1.6 million people
      and is the largest private employer. And most can't speak English

      6.
      Wal-Mart is the largest company
      in the history of the World.

      7.
      Wal-Mart now sells more food
      than Kroger & Safeway combined,
      and keep in mind they did this
      in only 15 years.

      8.
      During this same period,
      31 Supermarket chains sought bankruptcy
      (including Winn-Dixie).

      9.
      Wal-Mart now sells more food
      than any other store in the world.

      10.
      Wal-Mart has approx 3,900 stores
      in the USA of which 1,906 are SuperCenters;
      this is 1,000 more than it had 5 years ago.

      11.
      This year, 7.2 billion different
      purchasing experiences will occur
      at a Wal-Mart store.
      (Earth's population is approximately
      6.5 billion.)

      12.
      90% of all Americans live
      within 15 miles of a Wal-Mart

      13
      Let Wal Mart bail out GM


      #253 From: woodfork121121@...
      Date: Thu Nov 27, 2008 2:07 am
      Subject: Happy Thanksgiving
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      Have a good one.

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      #252 From: woodfork121121@...
      Date: Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:41 am
      Subject: Elephant on a Trampoline
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      I think I have to see this one in person before I can believe it's not trick
      photography:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TK27aknWVI4
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      -Huckleberry Finn
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      #251 From: woodfork121121@...
      Date: Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:58 pm
      Subject: FW: The Perfect Man & Perfect Woman a Must for All
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      http://www.flashfunpages.com/couple.swf

       

       

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      -Huckleberry Finn
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      #250 From: woodfork121121@...
      Date: Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:39 am
      Subject: First and Last - Vietnam War
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      For Veterans Day - The First American Killed Vietnam
      
      On September 26, 1945, Lt. Col. A. Peter Dewey became the first American soldier
      to die in Vietnam. Apparently mistaken for a Frenchman, Dewey was gunned down by
      Vietminh troops while driving a jeep to the airport. The son of a former
      Illinois congressman, he had been the head of the American O.S.S. mission.
      However, because the conflict had not yet fully developed at this time, some
      sources consider the first U.S. casualties of the Vietnam War to be Major Dale
      R. Buis and Master Sergeant Chester M. Ovnand who were killed in 1959 during a
      guerilla attack at Bienhoa.
      http://www.usefultrivia.com/war_trivia/vietnam_war_trivia_002a.html
      ~~~~~~~~
      
      Lt. Col. Peter Dewey, a U.S. Army officer with the Office of Strategic Services
      (OSS) in Vietnam, is shot and killed in Saigon. Dewey was the head of a
      seven-man team sent to Vietnam to search for missing American pilots and to
      gather information on the situation in the country after the surrender of the
      Japanese.
      
      According to the provisions of the Potsdam Conference, the British were assigned
      the responsibility of disarming Japanese soldiers south of the 16th parallel.
      However, with the surrender of the Japanese, Ho Chi Minh and the Viet Minh
      declared themselves the rightful government of Vietnam. This angered the French
      colonial officials and the remaining French soldiers who had been disarmed and
      imprisoned by the Japanese. They urged British Maj. Gen. Douglas D. Gracey to
      help them regain control. Gracey, not fond of the Viet Minh or their cause,
      rearmed 1,400 French soldiers to help his troops maintain order. The next day
      these forces ousted the Viet Minh from the offices that they had only recently
      occupied. Dewey's sympathies lay with the Viet Minh, many of whom were
      nationalists who did not want a return to French colonial rule. The American
      officer was an outspoken man who soon angered Gracey, eventually resulting in
      the British general ordering him to leave Indochina. On the way to
        the airport, accompanied by another OSS officer, Capt. Henry Bluechel, Dewey
      refused to stop at a roadblock manned by three Viet Minh soldiers. He yelled
      back at them in French and they opened fire, killing Dewey instantly. Bluechel
      was unhurt and escaped on foot. It was later determined that the Viet Minh had
      fired on Dewey thinking he was French. He would prove to be the first of nearly
      59,000 Americans killed in Vietnam.
      http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history.do?action=Article&id=1381.
      ~~~~~~~~~~
      
      James B. McGovern Jr., was one of the first two Americans killed in the Vietnam
      conflict. His remains were recovered from an unmarked grave in a remote northern
      Laos village in 2002 and identified last year by forensic experts at the Joint
      POW/MIA Accounting Command's laboratory at Hickam Air Force Base, Hawaii.
      
      McGovern, known as "Earthquake McGoon ",  weighed 260 pounds and was nicknamed
      after a hulking character in the hillbilly comic strip "Li'l Abner," was killed
      May 6, 1954, while air-dropping an artillery piece to the trapped French
      garrison at Dien Bien Phu. His C-119 "Flying Boxcar" cargo plane, crippled by
      anti-aircraft fire, continued 75 miles into Laos and crashed on a hillside.
      
      The crash also killed his co-pilot, Wallace Buford, and a French flight
      engineer. Three other French Legionnaires survived the crash and were captured
      by communist troops, but one died later. The remains of Buford, of Kansas City,
      Mo., were never found.
      
      McGovern and Buford, both civilians at the time, were the first two Americans
      killed in fighting in Vietnam, where ensuing warfare would kill nearly 60,000
      Americans and more than a million Vietnamese over the next two decades.
      
      Earthquake McGoon was a flamboyant figure who became famous in the early 1950s
      for his escapades. As a member of an Air Force squadron descended from the famed
      Flying Tigers, he shot down four Japanese planes and destroyed others on the
      ground.
      
      His adventures included being captured by communist Chinese troops who freed him
      because he called them "liars" for not letting him go; winning a clutch of
      dancing girls in a poker game; and setting free a group of Japanese POWs on a
      beach rather than follow orders to "dump cargo" after he developed engine
      trouble.
      Source:  military.com
      http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,136797,00.html?ESRC=airforce.nl
      ~~~~~~~~~~
      
      Information from The Wall Website:
      
      Largest per-capita Loss
           Beallsville, Ohio (pop. 475) gained unwanted national attention between 1966
      and 1971 by having suffered the largest per-capita loss of life in the Vietnam
      War. Six young men lost their lives in the war, a terrible and profound loss for
      this small town.
      Highest State Casualties
           West Virginia had the highest casualty rate in the nation, according to the
      U.S. Department of Defense. The state had 711 casualties -- 39.9 deaths per
      100,000 people. Oklahoma had the second-highest casualty rate.
      
      Highest High School Casualties
           Thomas Edison High School in Philadelphia sustained the largest number of
      Vietnam war casualties of any high school in the nation with 54.
      
      The Marines of Morenci
           They led some of the scrappiest high school football and basketball teams
      that the little Arizona copper town of Morenci (pop. 5,058) had ever known and
      cheered. They enjoyed roaring beer busts. In quieter moments, they rode horses
      along the Coronado Trail, stalked deer in the Apache National Forest. And in the
      patriotic camaraderie typical of Morenci's mining families, the nine graduates
      of Morenci High enlisted as a group in the Marine Corps. Their service began on
      Independence Day, 1966. Only 3 returned home.
      Robert Dale Draper, 19, was killed in an ambush.
      Stan King, 21, was killed less than a week after reaching Vietnam.
      Alfred Van Whitmer, 21, was killed while on patrol.
      Larry J. West, 19 was shot near Quang Nam.
      Jose Moncayo, 22, was part of an entire platoon wiped out.
      Clive Garcia, 22, was killed by a booby trap while leading a patrol.
      
      The Buddies from Midvale
           LeRoy Tafoya, Jimmy Martinez, Tom Gonzales were all boyhood friends and
      lived on three consecutive streets in Midvale, Utah on Fifth, Sixth and Seventh
      avenues. They lived only a few yards apart. They played ball at the adjacent
      sandlot ball field. And they all went to Vietnam..
           In a span of 16 dark days in late 1967, all three would be killed. LeRoy was
      killed on Wednesday, Nov. 22, the fourth anniversary of John F. Kennedy’s
      assassination. Jimmy died less than 24 hours later on Thanksgiving Day. Tom was
      shot dead assaulting the enemy on Dec. 7, Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day. Three
      hallmark all-American days. Three more names to be placed on the The Wall
      
      The First and the Last
           The first American soldier killed in the Vietnam War was Air Force T-Sgt.
      Richard B. Fitzgibbon Jr. He is listed by the U.S. Department of Defense as
      having a casualty date of June 8, 1956. His name was added to the Wall on
      Memorial Day 1999.
           First battlefield fatality was Specialist 4 James T. Davis who was killed on
      December 22, 1961.
      
           The last American soldier killed in the Vietnam War was Kelton Rena Turner,
      an 18-year old Marine. He was killed in action on May 15, 1975, two weeks after
      the evacuation of Saigon, in what became known as the Mayaguez incident.
      Others list Gary L. Hall, Joseph N. Hargrove and Danny G. Marshall as the last
      to die in Vietnam. These three US Marines Corps veterans were mistakenly left
      behind on Koh Tang Island during the Mayaguez incident. They were last seen
      together but unfortunately to date, their fate is unknown. They are located on
      panel 1W, lines 130 - 131.
      
           Last pilot casualty occured during the Embassy evacuation in Saigon, William
      C. Nystal and Michael J. Shea both died on the helicopter on April 30, 1975
      approaching the USS Hancock in the China Sea (both are located at 1W, 124).
      
      The youngest Vietnam KIA is believed to be Dan Bullock at 15 years old.
      The oldest person on the Wall is believed to be Dwaine McGriff at 63 years old.
      At least 5 men killed in Vietnam were 16 years old.
      At least 12 men killed in Vietnam were 17 years old.
      There are 120 persons who listed foreign countries as their home of record.
      At least 25,000 of those killed were 20 years old or younger.
      More than 17,000 of those killed were married.
      Veterans killed on their first day in Vietnam 997 (unconfirmed)
      Veterans killed on their last day in Vietnam 1,448 (unconfirmed)
      Number of Chaplains on the Wall -- 16 (2 Medal Of Honor)
      Number of Women on the Wall -- 8 (7 Army, 1 USAF - 7,484 served)
      There are 226 Native Americans on the Memorial.
      There are 22 countries represented on the Memorial.
      Most common name on the Memorial "Smith" with 667 veterans.
      The most casualties for a single day was on January 31, 1968 ~ 245 casualties.
      The most casualties for a single month was May 1968, 2,415 casualties were
      incurred.
      
             Corporal William T. Perkins Jr. of Sepulveda, California was a Marine
      combat photographer. He is the only military photographer to be awarded the
      Medal of Honor. He was killed in action on October 12, 1967.
      
             Corporal Thomas W. Bennett of Morgantown, West Virginia was a U.S. Army
      medic and was the only conscientious objector to be awarded the Medal of Honor
      during the Vietnam war. He was killed in action on February 11, 1969.
      
             BUDDIES:
      Steven E. Amescua and Anthony J. Blevins joined the Marine Corp on the buddy
      plan. Steven was KIA May 15, 1968 and Anthony was KIA August 23, 1968.
      
      John A. Jensen and Charles D. Turnbough were buddies who graduated from high
      school together and joined the Marines together. John was KIA August 27, 1967
      and Charles was KIA three days later on August 30, 1967.
      
             BROTHERS:
      Brothers Charles and Philip Tank of Ecorse, Michigan were both killed in
      Vietnam. Charles on April 19, 1969 Philip on September 12, 1968.
      
      Brothers Kenneth and Paul Olenzuk were both killed in Vietnam. Kenneth on
      December 25, 1967 and Paul on August 10, 1968
      
      Brothers Marlin and Norman Eversgerd were both killed in Vietnam. Marlin on
      March 19, 1967 and Norman on August 18, 1968
      
      Brothers Bennett and Dennis Herrick were both killed in Vietnam. Bennett on
      March 25, 1968 and Dennis on August 02, 1970
      
      Brothers Gabriel and Paul Trujillo were both killed in Vietnam. Gabriel on
      February 23, 1971 and Paul on November 04, 1971
      
      Brothers Benjamin and Francisco Montano were both killed in Vietnam. Francisco
      on April 08, 1967 and Benjamin on May 15, 1969
      
      Brothers James and John Rowden were both killed in Vietnam. James on March 05,
      1966 and John on February 10, 1968
      
      Brothers Michael and William Francis were both killed in Vietnam. Michael on
      September 30, 1967 and William on March 09, 1970
      
      Brothers Robert and Steven Gaftunik were both killed in Vietnam. Robert on
      August 25, 1969 and Steven on March 27, 1968
      
      Brothers Rudy and Stanley Sagon were both killed in Vietnam. Rudy on December
      10, 1965 and Stanley on May 20, 1966
      
      Brothers Robert and Phillip Wyatt were both killed in Vietnam. Robert on July
      10, 1967 and Phillip on May 28, 1968
      
      Brothers Samuel and William Nixon were both killed in Vietnam. Samuel on March
      21, 1968 and William on May 8, 1968
      
      Brothers Kirby and Lanny Hamby were both killed in Vietnam. Kirby on June 8,
      1968 and Lanny on October 14, 1969
      
      Brothers John and David Banks were both killed in Vietnam. John on March 28,
      1966 and David on April 21, 1969
      
      Brothers George and James Wright were both killed in Vietnam. George on May 21,
      1967 and James on May 31, 1969
      
      Brothers Donald and Cordis White were both killed in Vietnam. Donald on March 5,
      1967 and Cordis on September 18, 1969
      
      Brothers Clyde and Edward Withee were both killed in Vietnam. Clyde on February
      5, 1966 and Edward on October 6, 1970
      
      Brothers Richard and Larry Land were both killed in Vietnam. Richard on May 18,
      1967 and Larry on March 28, 1971
      
      Brothers Robert and Harold Musselman were both killed in Vietnam. Robert on
      October 25, 1967 and Harold on March 3, 1969
      
      Brothers David and Otis Morgan were both killed in Vietnam. David on January 20,
      1969 and Otis on January 28, 1970
      
      Brothers John and Dana Jensen were both killed in Vietnam. John on August 27,
      1967 and Dana on April 17, 1969
      
      Brothers Stephen and Stanley Barrett were both killed in Vietnam. Stephen on
      January 25, 1968 and Stanley on October 3, 1970
      
      Brothers Steven and Randy Mathias were both killed in Vietnam. Steven on July 2,
      1967 and Randy on June 18, 1968
      
      Brothers Roger and Stanley Herrell were both killed in Vietnam. Stanley on
      November 1, 1968 and Roger on July 29, 1969
      
      Brothers James and Kenneth Stutes were both killed in Vietnam. James on June 6,
      1970 and Kenneth on July 5, 1967
      
      Brothers Lane and Joseph Hargrove were both killed in Vietnam. Lane on April 21,
      1968 and Joseph on May 15, 1975
      
      Brothers Edmund and Michael Travis were both killed in Vietnam. Edmund on June
      27, 1967 and Michael on June 7, 1968
      
      Brothers David and Norman Evans were both killed in Vietnam. David on October
      24, 1968 and Norman on November 24, 1970
      
      Brothers Juan and Arthur Garcia were both killed in Vietnam. Juan on Nov 20,
      1967 and Arthur on February 7, 1970
      
      Brothers David and John Greeson were both killed in Vietnam. David on Nov 7,
      1969 and John on July 22, 1968
      
      Brothers Leonard and Byron McQuinn were both killed in Vietnam. Leonard on Sept
      5, 1966 and Byron on Feb 24, 1969
      
      Brothers Rodrick and Garland Whalen were both killed in Vietnam. Rodrick on
      October 1, 1966 and Garland on January 31, 1969
      
             STEP BROTHERS:
      Richard Earl Sipes and Raymond Omer Kincannon were step brothers and raised
      together in Chula Vista, CA. They were both killed in Vietnam. Richard on Dec
      29, 1966 and Raymond on April 1, 1968
      
             FATHER AND SON:
      Richard B. Fitzgibbon Jr. was killed June 08, 1956 his son Richard B. Fitzgibbon
      III was KIA September 07, 1965.
      
      Leo Hester Sr. Died March 10, 1967 in a aircraft crash his son Leo Hester Jr.
      was KIA November 02, 1969 also in a aircraft crash.
      
             FATHER NOT ON THE MEMORIAL WITH SON:
      Although both father and son served in Vietnam during the same time frame, the
      father is not on the Memorial. Lt. Rex Chrisman, US Navy, died of a heart attack
      while assigned on the USS Estes that was being serviced in Bangkok. The ship was
      waiting for its next maneuver to the China Sea. His son, PFC Rex G. Chrisman
      took his father back home for burial. Returning to Vietnam, Rex was killed a
      month later.
      
      Number of living whose names are etched on the “wall” in error? TWELVE!
      
      Names Added to Memorial:   Since 1997 78 names of veterans who have died due to
      their wounds received during the Vietnam war have been added to the Wall. The
      latest names added are listed below.
      Added 2005
      Army PFC Thomas Joseph Conners
      Army Sergeant Richard Edward Daly Jr.
      Army PFC John Harold Berg
      Army PFC William Ellis Browning
      
      Added 2006
      Army SP4 Bobby Gene Barbre
      Marine Lance Cpl. George Bryant Givens Jr.
      Marine Pfc. Hans Jorg Rudolph Lorenz
      Marine Capt. Robert Patrick Rumley Jr.
      
      Added 2007
      Army SP4 Wesley Alvin Stiverson
      Army Sergeant Richard Monroe Pruett
      Navy Fireman Apprentice Joseph Gerald Krywicki
      
      Added 2008
      Army SP4 Dennis O. Hargrove
      Marine Lance Cpl. Richard M. Goossens
      Army SP4 Darrell J. Naylor
      Marine Lance Cpl. Raymond C. Mason
      
           In Memory Day Since the war in Vietnam came to an end, there has been a
      growing sense among many veterans and their families that those who served in
      this nation's longest war have suffered and are continuing to suffer premature
      deaths related to their service. These deaths have been attributed to exposure
      to Agent Orange, post- traumatic stress disorder, and a growing list of other
      causes.
      
           The Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund's In Memory Day program honors those who
      died as a result of the Vietnam War, but whose deaths do not fit the Department
      of Defense criteria for inclusion upon the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in
      Washington, D.C. Every year there is a ceremony to pay tribute to these men and
      women who sacrificed so much for their country. The ceremony is held on the
      third Monday in April — In Memory Day.
      http://thewall-usa.com/names.asp
      ~~~~~~~~~~
      
      --
      T. P. Woodfork
      "You can't pray a lie."
      -Huckleberry Finn
      www.8thwood.com

      #249 From: woodfork121121@...
      Date: Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:38 am
      Subject: Re: [Tranqulity-Base] Happy Birthday
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      HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

      Woody


      #248 From: woodfork121121@...
      Date: Fri Nov 7, 2008 2:29 am
      Subject: FW: [PTSDveteranSupport] Fw: THE AMERICAN FLAG
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      Robin Williams as 'The American Flag',
      
      --
      T. P. Woodfork
      "You can't pray a lie."
      -Huckleberry Finn
      www.8thwood.com
      
      -------------- Forwarded Message: --------------
      From: "Russell  McDonald Sr"
      Subject: Fw: THE AMERICAN FLAG
      Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 20:04:01 +0000
      >
      >
      >   AFTER ALL THE ELECTION PROPAGANDA EXCHANGES I FOUND THE FOLLOWING CLIP TO
      > STIMULATE SOME WORTHWHILE THOUGHT.
      >
      >
      >   Interesting 5 minutes....if you haven't seen it, take the time to view it..
      >
      >   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_L1vLv84vs
      >
      >
      >

      #247 From: woodfork121121@...
      Date: Fri Oct 31, 2008 3:55 am
      Subject: Fantastic Landing
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      As Fats Waller was wont to say about playing the piano, "Ahh, it's so easy when
      you know how!" This guy loses his right wing while stunt flying, and still
      manages to land with no further damage to the aircraft. You have to see it to
      believe it.
      
      http://www.chilloutzone.de/files/08102703.html
      --
      T. P. Woodfork
      "You can't pray a lie."
      -Huckleberry Finn
      www.8thwood.com

      #246 From: woodfork121121@...
      Date: Sat Oct 25, 2008 12:26 am
      Subject: FW: [VeteranIssues] Enhanced VA Mortgage Options Now Available for Veterans
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      > http://www.homeloans.va.gov/
      >
      >
      > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > Enhanced VA Mortgage Options Now Available for Veterans
      >
      >
      > Of Potential Benefit to Those in Financial Distress
      >
      >
      > WASHINGTON (Oct.24) -- Veterans with conventional home loans now have new
      > options for refinancing to a Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) guaranteed
      > home loan.  These new options are available as a result of the Veterans'
      > Benefits Improvement Act of 2008, which the President signed into law on
      > October 10, 2008.
      >
      >
      >
      > "These changes will allow VA to assist a substantial number of veterans with
      > subprime mortgages refinance into a safer, more affordable, VA guaranteed
      > loan," said Secretary of Veterans Affairs Dr. James B. Peake.  "Veterans in
      > financial distress due to high rate subprime mortgages are potentially the
      > greatest beneficiaries."
      >
      >
      >
      > VA has never guaranteed subprime loans.  However, as a result of the new law
      > VA can now help many more veterans who currently have subprime loans.
      >
      >
      >
      > The new law makes changes to VA's home loan refinancing program.  Veterans
      > who wish to refinance their subprime or conventional mortgage may now do so
      > for up to 100 percent of the value of the property.  These types of loans
      > were previously limited to 90 percent of the value.
      >
      >
      >
      > Additionally, Congress raised VA's maximum loan amount for these types of
      > refinancing loans.  Previously, these refinancing loans were capped at
      > $144,000.  With the new legislation, such loans may be made up to $729,750
      > depending on where the property is located.
      >
      >
      >
      > Increasing the loan-to-value ratio and raising the maximum loan amount will
      > allow more qualified veterans to refinance through VA, allowing for savings
      > on interest costs or even potentially avoiding foreclosure.
      >
      >
      >
      > Originally set to expire at the end of this month, VA's authority to
      > guaranty Adjustable Rate Mortgages (ARMs) and Hybrid ARMs was also extended
      > under this new law through September 30, 2012.  Unlike conventional ARMs and
      > hybrid ARMs, VA limits interest rate increases on these loans from year to
      > year, as well as over the life of the loans.
      >
      > Since 1944, when home loan guaranties were offered with the original GI
      > Bill, VA has guaranteed more than 18 million home loans worth over $911
      > billion.  This year, about 180,000 veterans, active duty servicemembers, and
      > survivors received loans valued at about $36 billion.
      >
      >
      >
      > For more information, or to obtain help from a VA Loan Specialist, veterans
      > may call VA at 1-877-827-3702 or visit  <http://www.homeloans.va.gov/>
      > www.homeloans.va.gov.
      >
      >
      >
      > #   #   #
      >

      #245 From: woodfork121121@...
      Date: Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:05 pm
      Subject: Fwd: You HAVE to view this...
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      -Huckleberry Finn
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      From: "Johel Ortiz" <johel35@...>
      Subject: Fwd: You HAVE to view this...
      Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 07:05:27 +0000
      > Astounding!!
      >
      >
      > *Prepare yourself:  some of you may find the music rather loud and jarring,
      > but the material is a lollapalooza. *
      > **
      > *My, what the future holds!!*
      > **
      > **
      >
      > *
      >
      http://release.theplatform.com/content.select?pid=x7aVOMrlfkkijQwcLllwk6WjB5JE0z
      > rF
      >
      *<http://release.theplatform.com/content.select?pid=x7aVOMrlfkkijQwcLllwk6WjB5JE
      > 0zrF>

      #244 From: woodfork121121@...
      Date: Fri Oct 10, 2008 8:50 pm
      Subject: FW: [VeteranIssues] DOD Handbook, Comp & Benefits for Seriuosly Injured or ILL Service members
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      From: "Colonel Dan" <colonel-dan@...>
      To: "Veteran Issues by Colonel Dan" <VeteranIssues@yahoogroups.com>
      Subject: [VeteranIssues] DOD Handbook, Comp & Benefits for Seriuosly Injured or
      ILL Service members
      Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:47:13 +0000
      > http://tinyurl.com/4qbpu5
      >
      > or
      > http://www.transitionassistanceprogram.com/portal/transition/resources/PDF/C
      > ompensation_and_Benefits_Handbook.pdf
      >
      >
      > * The Department of Defense (DoD) has developed a comprehensive
      > handbook describing compensation and other benefits service members and
      > their families would be entitled to upon separation or retirement as a
      > result of serious injury or illness.
      >
      >  The Compensation and Benefits handbook was compiled in cooperation
      > with the Departments of Veterans Affairs, Labor, Health and Human Services
      > and Education and the Social Security Administration. Additionally, there
      > are references to assistance provided by other governmental and
      > non-governmental agencies and organizations
      >
      > * The handbook describes the disability eligibility process, various
      > program qualifications, application procedures, and numerous resources with
      > associated contact information.  Additionally, there are references to
      > assistance provided by other governmental and non-governmental agencies and
      > organizations.
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >  Web sites and toll-free numbers are provided, and the electronic
      > version includes hyperlinks. The electronic version of the handbook will be
      > updated frequently and the hard copy of the compensation and benefits
      > handbook will be updated annually.
      >
      >  The electronic version of the handbook can be found on the five Web
      > sites listed below:
      >
      > *  <http://turbotap.org/> http://turbotap.org
      >
      > *  <https://www.nko.navy.mil/> https://www.nko.navy.mil
      >
      > *  <http://www.npc.navy.mil/> http://www.npc.navy.mil
      >
      > *  <https://www.aw2.army.mil/> https://www.aw2.army.mil
      >
      > *
      > <https://www.my.af.mil/gcss-af/USAF/AFP40/d/1073755231/Files/C&BHandbook>
      > https://www.my.af.mil/gcss-af/USAF/AFP40/d/1073755231/Files/C&BHandbook
      >

      #243 From: woodfork121121@...
      Date: Tue Sep 30, 2008 2:23 am
      Subject: Those Wedding Bell Blues
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      Senator Barack Obama announced that he and his wife will be celebrating their 15th wedding anniversary next week, joking that "She just about has me trained. Almost." Michelle Obama issued a one-word correction: "Sixteenth." If Senator Obama suddenly suspends his campaign for a few days, it may be that he's waiting for the knot on his head to go down.

      --
      T. P. Woodfork
      "You can't pray a lie."
      -Huckleberry Finn
      www.8thwood.com

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