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Re: [EGYPTIAN_RECS] Data from "unethical" research


Dear Dr Isabelle,
Thank you for raising this issue, I am really concerned with this situation that have met us and will meet us more in the coming years.
I first would like to divide the studies that did not take REC approval prior to conduction into 2 major categories:
 The first one includes studies that meet all the requirements to be ethical but all the problem is that this is not reviewed and approved by REC prior to initiating the study " I mean if these studies had been submitted to REC they would have been approved without any needed modifications"
The second category includes studies that if had been submitted to REC they would have needed some modifications to be approved or even not approved at all" . So this category is unethical from the start !!
And actually I am "sympathizing " with the first category ,that it is a real loss of efforts. specially in our countries many institutes have their own REC just been developed".
But in the same time I completely emphasize that research MUST take REC approval before any step to be initiated,for the sake of what we all know.
Waiting for your responses
May be we can find a way to help
Thanks and Regards
Noha Asem
 
--- On Wed, 12/17/08, inakhla1 <inakhla@...> wrote:
From: inakhla1 <inakhla@...>
Subject: [EGYPTIAN_RECS] Data from "unethical" research
To: EGYPTIAN_RECS@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 8:35 PM

Dear friends and colleagues

We all know that it is almost impossible to publish data obtained
from "unethical" research or research that did not obtain REC/IRB
approval. Do you think it is fair to the subjects who were involved in
such research to throw their data away? Isn't this a waste of the
sacrifice the subjects made (even if they were unaware of it) and it is
twice unfair to subjects, once by enrolling them in unethical research
and the second time by throwing their existing data away?

Your thoughts and why?




Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:11 pm

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Dear friends and colleagues We all know that it is almost impossible to publish data obtained from "unethical" research or research that did not obtain REC/IRB...
inakhla1
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Dec 18, 2008
4:35 am

Dear Dr Isabelle, Thank you for raising this issue, I am really concerned with this situation that have met us and will meet us more in the coming years. I...
noha asem
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Dec 18, 2008
5:11 pm

Dear Noha; So as you are (actually I am "sympathizing " with the first category ) this means accepting publications of these results ? and not for the other...
azza radwan
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Dec 18, 2008
5:25 pm

Dear Dr Azza Thanks for your response, I meant by a study that is completely meeting ethical requirements that every step is done perfect including obtaining...
noha asem
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Dec 18, 2008
5:46 pm

Dear Dr.Isabelle I completely agree that not even one step in the study should take place before the REC approval specially that having REC in almost all the...
sally mashally
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Dec 18, 2008
11:37 pm

Dear Dr.Isabelle in the conditions I mentioned I mean that on the top of the publication ,it should be mentioned that this study did not get the REC approvel...
sally mashally
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Dec 19, 2008
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Dear All,   Thank you, Dr. Isabelle, for raising this discussion point. Actually, A somewhat similar issue was discussed during our last workshop in...
nadia zaki
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Dec 19, 2008
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