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#5686 From: "Vanadeux" <vanadeux@...>
Date: Fri Aug 30, 2002 10:07 am
Subject: Hello patti thanks for your reply.
vanadeux@...
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do you flavour your raw foods in any special way with herbs or with seaweed products.
 
Its very interesting that you did have to use the   zapper, but good that it has done the trick.  I would have thought your inner terrain was too healthy to allow for parasites etc, but there you.
 
thanksANNE
 

#5687 From: "stevekeyaki" <stevekeyaki@...>
Date: Sun Sep 1, 2002 3:57 pm
Subject: My first juice fast
stevekeyaki
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Hi Vanadeux,

I read about your juicing experience with interest because of my
recent experience.  I bought a juicer and juiced twice a day for two
weeks.  In that time my dust allergy disappeared!  Then I started a
juice fast.  I juiced 650 to 800 ml of fruit juice twice a day and
the same amount of veggie juice twice a day for 14 days, then spent
three more days transitioning back to solid food. I also took a fiber
supplement containing psyllium to keep the bowels moving.
From the first day and continuing till day 7 I felt very much
weekened (I could hardly ride my bicycle to the store) and I had
severe headaches much of the time.  I slept a lot (I was on vacation)
and had eliminations of thin ropelike stuff.  Through the first week
I constantly got rid of large amounts of disgusting yellow phlegm
(and white). On day 7, I eliminated several big 'buttons' connected
by more of that rope and after that I felt much, much better.  My
energy returned.  During the second week there was only white phlegm
but much less of it and it wasn't as solid.
Results of the fast - Remarkable mental clarity.  No more allergies
(although now, three weeks later, they seem to be returning)
Remarkable physical flexibility throughout my body.  Much more energy
and a very short recovery period after strenous physical exertion.
Also, I can breath more deeply (my asthma has lessened).  I'm 42
years old but I feel very very good.  I became thinner than I want to
be because I was thin to start with, but exercising feels so good
that I will soon build up to having more lean muscle mass than
before.  I think my bowels are pretty clean even though I didn't do
colonics because my bowels movements seem to reflect what I've eaten
and they are 'clean' (not gunky).  Mind you, I imagine a colonic
earlier on could have saved me a few days of suffering.
BTW I have a friend who had rhuematoid (sp) arthritis so bad that he
walked very slowly and in great pain.  He couldn't work.  He went to
Bangalore, India for four months to take some computer courses and it
went away 90 percent but only temporarily.  He credited the natural,
wholefood, vegetarian diet.  When the pain returned in full he went
to Boston and did a 21 day water fast under the supervision of Joel
Fuhrman and completely recovered.
So, if some of you haven't tried fasting, why not do some research
and see if there is evidence that it can help your specific ailment?
Cancer comes to mind.  I know this isn't a juicing forum but my
results and my friend's are so remarkable and easy (cheap) to obtain
that I deemed it worth posting about.  Forgive my longwindedness.

#5688 From: lynfarrow@...
Date: Sun Sep 1, 2002 12:01 pm
Subject: Re: reply to Lynne and Anne
marisol11930
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Hi, Patti,

I'm glad to hear you can eat this much fruit. I may give it a try. The whole conventional theory behind hypoglycemia may be wrong if you can tolerate it this well.

You asked for some Zapper stories. My family has only zapped a short time but we've had three surprises. First, my hot flashes went away almost overnight (plain zapping). Second, my husband's irregular heartbeat is now regular (this was from plate zapping). Third, I got rid of a screaming toothache (plate zapping). I bought the anatomy slide kit so I have different body parts on hand and some bacteria/ bacteria slides too.

I'd love to hear more stories too!

Lynne

> Hi Lynne and Anne,
To answer your quesion, Anne, yes, I am 100 % raw now. I have been for
about a year, even though I started the transition almost 2 years ago. 
It started out 50/50 then 75/25 etc.    I eat raw fruits, vegetables,
nuts and seeds and that's about it (90 percent organic)    I started out
soaking grains, but I never felt right with them, and after reading a
lot of info about grains, I realized that they were not a good thing to
eat; cooked or raw.  I did have a difficult time transitioning to this
diet.  You mentioned a headache.  I had one for 2 weeks , along with
joint pain, nausea and terrible gas.   I was starting to wonder if the
diet was bogus, and then one day I woke up and it was all over!  I have
never felt better ever since.   I wonder if the zapper would have helped
back then if I had known about it.
Lynne, one of the reasons I made such a drastic change to my diet is
because I was hypoglycemic pretty much all my life.  I recently found
out that it has led to type II Diabetes, even though I don't fit the
profile.  I always felt shaky and horrible when I ate sugary foods,
natural or processed.  Once I went through the inital detox phase of the
raw diet, fruit never ever bothered me again.  In fact, I would say
fruit is about 50 to 60 percent of my daily food intake and I feel
energized now, not depleted like I used to.  I drink lots of smoothies,
raw soups made of veggies in either the juicer or vita-mix and tons of
salad.  My favorite meals are simple, like for example, fresh salsa
verde stuffed into an avocado half topped with sprouts and a glass of
fresh raw almond milk.
I think I mentioned my swollen foot was the only thing not helped by
this diet.  Well, I started wearing the zapper yesterday morning and
noticed at the end of the day, my foot was completly normal!!!  Can that
be, or is it just coincidence?
I'd like to hear other people's noticeable experiences with their
zappers.  This thing is so cool.,,,,,,,,
Thanks everyone else for your suggestions and opinions too.  I think I
will try the potassium.  I already eat about 3 bananas a day so I
probably won't need much.
Patti



#5689 From: Lisa Doyon <lisadoyon@...>
Date: Mon Sep 2, 2002 12:49 am
Subject: Re: syncrometer testing
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Can the frequency generator be used together with the syncrometer to see
the resonance rather than hear it?  Or is there any electronic device,
like an oscilloscope, that could measure the difference?

It sounds like from her book that you can use the two together to see
what things are inside you.  Does anyone use them that way, and is it
easy to do?  Also can it be used that way to test your food and body
products?  That is a big reason that I built the syncrometer, to test
what I eat and supplements and body products.

I want to weigh the cost of the frequency generator with spending the
time and money to develop a collection of specimens if it can be used in
place of them.

thanks,
Lisa

#5690 From: Patti Schippani <sedonanrg@...>
Date: Mon Sep 2, 2002 1:23 am
Subject: reply to Lynne and Anne
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Hi guys,
Diana, I understand your concern about weight loss.  I had the same
problem.  I was already thin when I started the raw.  I mentioned I
didn't fit the profile for Diabetes type II.  Most people are overweight
with that.  I was very thin, and when I went raw, I got even much
thinner.  (My mom used to freak out..."You're too skinny!!!  Eat
something for god's sake!!!")  I used to hear that all the time.
However, like you, I LOOKED so healthy.  My skin glowed, and my eyes
were extremely bright and white.  My hair was so shiny and I felt
wonderful.  I stabilized my weight about 6 months after I started.   I
am now at the perfect weight for me.  Not too skinny, but definitely not
considered overweight either.  I hear this happens to almost everyone.
Drastic weight loss initially, but a subsequent weight gain to stabilize
at a  perfect level.  With cancer, I assume you want to be careful with
this, but everything I have read indicates this is an ideal diet for
cancer.  (See  the book "Raw Food Treatment for Cancer")
I eat lots of young coconuts (about 2 a day!)  nuts (almond milk and raw
nuts and seeds) and avocados.  I use olive oil in my salad dressings, so
I get an adequate amount of fat.  Probably as much as I did on the SAD
diet, but the good kind... not saturated.
I do flavor the food with herbs from my garden.  I also use dulse flakes
and kelp, especially when I make mock tuna salad from soaked almonds and
kelp.  I use lots of cilantro (the best herb for chelation) and basil,
marjoram, oregano and parsley.  Parsley has pretty strong anti-parasitic
properties too, as does the raw pumpkin seeds I consume by the bag full!!
Someone remarked that after all this it was interesting that I still
need the zapper.  After 40 years of absolute horrible abuse to my
innards, it is going to take a lot more than 2 years of eating clean to
get the gunk out.  I think we are all always a work in progress and I
still feel like I have a long way to go. Every time I have a colonic I
remark, "Wow!! Way more is coming out than has gone in over the last
several days!!!"   I still  go through a healing crisis about once
every  eight or nine months.  The body has infinite wisdom and I am
always in awe of what it can accomplish when given the right
environment.   I think the zapper is going to be a big help.  So far so
good!
BTW, someone mentioned the great success they had with the plate
zapper.  What exactly is that?  Is this something that you need to build
(never mind! Not left brained!!!) or can you buy one ?  SO MUCH TO
LEARN!!!!     If it's in the book, I haven't gotten to that part yet.
Also, I am using the Terminator II.  Does anyone know anything about
that?  I am planning on buying another one for my clients while I do a
bodywork session on them.  It can be easily rested on them while they
just lay there.  They don't have to hold anything.  Does anyone have any
opinion on the Terminator?  I must say I am so impressed with my foot
since using it!!   Thanks for all your great info.
Patti

#5691 From: Lisa Doyon <lisadoyon@...>
Date: Mon Sep 2, 2002 2:48 am
Subject: frequency generator
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I was wondering if anyone knows if the function generator will do the
same thing that we need in testing as a frequency generator.  She talks
about how to use a frequency generator in her Cure for all Diseases
book, but at the end of that, she shows pictures and talks about
function generators.  So just curious if anyone knows if either one will
do.
thanks
Lisa

#5692 From: "silverswill@..." <silverswill@...>
Date: Mon Sep 2, 2002 6:42 am
Subject: Re: syncrometer
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I believe you need to use a variable resistor or
something that increases or decreases Electron flow
through the circuit (ie when you turn some lights on
and when you turn the knobe to the right the lights
get britter and to the left the lights get darker then
click and they shut off)  The book states that it is a
50K-B variable resistor with switch. 50,000 ohms?
attach your variable resistor where it shows a gate in
the diagram or a jawbridge where the circuit is
broken(p458)...


Donations are welcome
Paypal: silverswill@...


Corbin


--- satchid23 <satchid@...> wrote:
> I Purchased The Cure For All Diseases from Dr Hulda
> Clark. It is
> indeed a most wonderful help to cure diseases that
> where not curable
> before.
>
> I have a question:
> I am wanting to build the sysncrometer that i find
> in The Cure For
> All Diseases on page 458. I indeed see the
> schematic, but becouse I
> do not have "The Electrosonic Human" and allso do
> not know what it
> is, I am unable to build the circuit. I think there
> are a few things
> missing in the schematic becouse on the next page in
> "Final test" it
> says ""turn the control knob ....."". I do not see a
> control knob in
> the schematic. Is there somebodyd able to help me
> with a complete
> schematic.
>
> Willy
>
>


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#5693 From: "silverswill@..." <silverswill@...>
Date: Mon Sep 2, 2002 8:11 am
Subject: Re: zapping questions
silverswill
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Things to Think about when Zapping that I have
Personally Discovered!!

1. NO FOOD.(PERIOD). obstain from all foods at least
4-5 hours or more!! I have found that If you eat food
and then zap you will get boils on your skin from
toxins.(Bumps the size of hail then puss comes out
then  bleeding a little bit then scale--very painful
for about a week until they heal)

2. Lots of water distilled(MADE YOURSELF-Polar bear
distiller(expenisve proffesional) or
www.caycecures.com has a small portable water
distiller) as store water is polluted with lots of
Alcohol! prob even better as I beleive it can pick up
junk easier than tap water and is easier on the
kidney's.. When I had my severe kidney infection and
my kidney's shut down, all i could drink was distilled
water as the chlorine in tap water burned my kidneys
and caused more pain..

3. Do not zap if weak heart, pacemacker etc..

4. Time duration is recommended to start out slow
because you will have lots of die off. and lots of
toxins and your kidneys and liver need to adjust for
this load(DO NOT ZAP FOR THE FIRST TIME FOR AN HOUR OR
MORE YOU MIGHT DO DAMAGE!--This is where that e-mail
came from you talked about..  I am able to zap an hour
or more due to the fact I started zapping about a year
ago and have worked up to my tollerance limits and
what  works for my condition. Each person is
different.

5. Suggest you purchase a product called lymph detox
by DNR (body bath) which helps lymph fluids settle
down if you are having lymph pain from the die off..


These suggestions are from what I have found
personally and in no way should be construed as
medical advice, and am not liable for any stupidity as
I believe I had made enough stupid mistakes in
discovering how this system works  :)

Sincerley
Corbin Hanson

Donations welcome
silverswill@...



--- Lisa Doyon <lisadoyon@...> wrote:
> I have been following your group for a couple weeks
> and have some
> questions.  I built myself a zapper from Dr. Clark's
> book.  I have used
> it along with the herbs.  I haven't felt too much.
> Don't know if I just
> didn't have too many parasites, or it just didn't
> work.  I also use
> aromatherapy oils and don't know if that has helped
> keep them at bay.  I
> use oregano oil orally whenever I feel a cold or flu
> coming on and have
> often stopped it in its tracks.
>
> But it sounds like many of you are zapping much more
> often and longer
> time periods than in Dr. Clark's book.  Has there
> ever been any limits
> talked about?  Does she in any of her later books
> say it's okay to zap
> that much.  I just worry about any side effects.  On
> one e-mail that I
> got, someone mentioned someone said someone told
> them they got permanent
> nerve damage from zapping.  But I couldn't find the
> e-mail again to read
> it again.
>
> I want to do what is going to be effective, but I
> want to be safe also.
> My step-dad is an electrician and had some concerns
> about the
> electricity going into your body and the minute
> chance it could
> interrupt the signal from the brain to the heart and
> stop your heart.
>
> Can some people tell me how often they zap and what
> time period and any
> bad experiences they've had or that you didn't
> notice anything until you
> zapped a certain amount.
>
> also has anyone found a rechargeable 9-volt battery
> that puts out that
> much?  I bought one and realized it said on the
> package output was 7
> volts and sure enough when I put my voltmeter on it,
> it was only 7 volts
> output.
>
> thanks,
> Lisa
>
>


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#5694 From: "Vanadeux" <vanadeux@...>
Date: Fri Aug 30, 2002 6:18 pm
Subject: Re: My first juice fast
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thanks Steveyaki for your experience on your juice fast.
We did a seven day juice fast about six years ago, and we also included
enemas, and we experienced the same expulsion of the old ropey's etc.  We
were using shop bought fruit and vegey juice that time, but now we would be
able to use fresh vegey and fruit juice.

Several years later we found a marvellous fibre bar, sadly no longer
available, and I spent one whole year constantly clearing rubbish from my
colon unbelievable.

Tthanks anne

#5695 From: lynfarrow@...
Date: Mon Sep 2, 2002 10:19 am
Subject: Re: zapping questions/ August update
marisol11930
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Lisa,

Dr. Clark has updated her zapping methods and some as recently as August 2002. You might want to check out:

http://www.drhuldaclark.org/mostly_zapping_dr_clark.htm

Also, have you read the Syncrometer Manual, particularly the last half? The format is difficult but much recent information is in there. I'm surprised you haven't felt anything but for some people the zapping may have to build up over time. "Duration zapping" is now done rather than the timed zaps for people with significant health challenges. See the website above.

Lynne




I have been following your group for a couple weeks and have some
questions.  I built myself a zapper from Dr. Clark's book.  I have used
it along with the herbs.  I haven't felt too much.  Don't know if I just
didn't have too many parasites, or it just didn't work.  I also use
aromatherapy oils and don't know if that has helped keep them at bay.  I
use oregano oil orally whenever I feel a cold or flu coming on and have
often stopped it in its tracks.

But it sounds like many of you are zapping much more often and longer
time periods than in Dr. Clark's book.  Has there ever been any limits
talked about?  Does she in any of her later books say it's okay to zap
that much.  I just worry about any side effects.  On one e-mail that I
got, someone mentioned someone said someone told them they got permanent
nerve damage from zapping.  But I couldn't find the e-mail again to read
it again.

I want to do what is going to be effective, but I want to be safe also.
My step-dad is an electrician and had some concerns about the
electricity going into your body and the minute chance it could
interrupt the signal from the brain to the heart and stop your heart.

Can some people tell me how often they zap and what time period and any
bad experiences they've had or that you didn't notice anything until you
zapped a certain amount.

also has anyone found a rechargeable 9-volt battery  that puts out that
much?  I bought one and realized it said on the package output was 7
volts and sure enough when I put my voltmeter on it, it was only 7 volts
output.

thanks,
Lisa





#5696 From: dianna rawleigh <dianna@...>
Date: Mon Sep 2, 2002 4:15 pm
Subject: Re: reply to Lynne and Anne
diannah95018
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Patti, thanks so much for your thoughtful answer. i aspire to your discipline and weight stabilization! thanks
-dianna

on 9/1/02 6:23 PM, Patti Schippani at sedonanrg@... wrote:

Hi guys,
Diana, I understand your concern about weight loss.  I had the same
problem.  I was already thin when I started the raw.  I mentioned I
didn't fit the profile for Diabetes type II.  Most people are overweight
with that.  I was very thin, and when I went raw, I got even much
thinner.  (My mom used to freak out..."You're too skinny!!!  Eat
something for god's sake!!!")  I used to hear that all the time.  
However, like you, I LOOKED so healthy.  My skin glowed, and my eyes
were extremely bright and white.  My hair was so shiny and I felt
wonderful.  I stabilized my weight about 6 months after I started.   I
am now at the perfect weight for me.  Not too skinny, but definitely not
considered overweight either.  I hear this happens to almost everyone.  
Drastic weight loss initially, but a subsequent weight gain to stabilize
at a  perfect level.  With cancer, I assume you want to be careful with
this, but everything I have read indicates this is an ideal diet for
cancer.  (See  the book "Raw Food Treatment for Cancer")
I eat lots of young coconuts (about 2 a day!)  nuts (almond milk and raw
nuts and seeds) and avocados.  I use olive oil in my salad dressings, so
I get an adequate amount of fat.  Probably as much as I did on the SAD
diet, but the good kind... not saturated.
I do flavor the food with herbs from my garden.  I also use dulse flakes
and kelp, especially when I make mock tuna salad from soaked almonds and
kelp.  I use lots of cilantro (the best herb for chelation) and basil,
marjoram, oregano and parsley.  Parsley has pretty strong anti-parasitic
properties too, as does the raw pumpkin seeds I consume by the bag full!!
Someone remarked that after all this it was interesting that I still
need the zapper.  After 40 years of absolute horrible abuse to my
innards, it is going to take a lot more than 2 years of eating clean to
get the gunk out.  I think we are all always a work in progress and I
still feel like I have a long way to go. Every time I have a colonic I
remark, "Wow!! Way more is coming out than has gone in over the last
several days!!!"   I still  go through a healing crisis about once
every  eight or nine months.  The body has infinite wisdom and I am
always in awe of what it can accomplish when given the right
environment.   I think the zapper is going to be a big help.  So far so
good!
BTW, someone mentioned the great success they had with the plate
zapper.  What exactly is that?  Is this something that you need to build
(never mind! Not left brained!!!) or can you buy one ?  SO MUCH TO
LEARN!!!!     If it's in the book, I haven't gotten to that part yet.  
Also, I am using the Terminator II.  Does anyone know anything about
that?  I am planning on buying another one for my clients while I do a
bodywork session on them.  It can be easily rested on them while they
just lay there.  They don't have to hold anything.  Does anyone have any
opinion on the Terminator?  I must say I am so impressed with my foot
since using it!!   Thanks for all your great info.
Patti


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#5697 From: dianna rawleigh <dianna@...>
Date: Mon Sep 2, 2002 4:15 pm
Subject: Re: question for Patti
diannah95018
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Patti, i just searched Amazon for this book, but they don't have it. can you tell me who the author/publisher is so i can order it at my local bookstore? thanks!
-dianna

cancer.  (See  the book "Raw Food Treatment for Cancer")

#5698 From: Jan Bolen <jurimed@...>
Date: Mon Sep 2, 2002 5:12 pm
Subject: Re: zapping questions
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Dear Corbin Hansen,

About no food when zapping - - - that is far, far from our own experience! We have zapped quite often in the last two years. With food, without food, 20 minutes at a time, or overnight, we have NEVER had the experience you describe about boils coming out on your skin. I don't know of anybody else who has, either. Either you have strange die-off reactions or you need to attribute that condition to something else other than zapping.

Jan Bolen

 "silverswill@..." wrote:

Things to Think about when Zapping that I have
Personally Discovered!!

1. NO FOOD.(PERIOD). obstain from all foods at least
4-5 hours or more!! I have found that If you eat food
and then zap you will get boils on your skin from
toxins.(Bumps the size of hail then puss comes out
then  bleeding a little bit then scale--very painful
for about a week until they heal)

2. Lots of water distilled(MADE YOURSELF-Polar bear
distiller(expenisve proffesional) or
www.caycecures.com has a small portable water
distiller) as store water is polluted with lots of
Alcohol! prob even better as I beleive it can pick up
junk easier than tap water and is easier on the
kidney's.. When I had my severe kidney infection and
my kidney's shut down, all i could drink was distilled
water as the chlorine in tap water burned my kidneys
and caused more pain..

3. Do not zap if weak heart, pacemacker etc..

4. Time duration is recommended to start out slow
because you will have lots of die off. and lots of
toxins and your kidneys and liver need to adjust for
this load(DO NOT ZAP FOR THE FIRST TIME FOR AN HOUR OR
MORE YOU MIGHT DO DAMAGE!--This is where that e-mail
came from you talked about..  I am able to zap an hour
or more due to the fact I started zapping about a year
ago and have worked up to my tollerance limits and
what  works for my condition. Each person is
different.

5. Suggest you purchase a product called lymph detox
by DNR (body bath) which helps lymph fluids settle
down if you are having lymph pain from the die off..


These suggestions are from what I have found
personally and in no way should be construed as
medical advice, and am not liable for any stupidity as
I believe I had made enough stupid mistakes in
discovering how this system works  :)

Sincerley
Corbin Hanson

Donations welcome
silverswill@...



--- Lisa Doyon <lisadoyon@...> wrote:
> I have been following your group for a couple weeks
> and have some
> questions.  I built myself a zapper from Dr. Clark's
> book.  I have used
> it along with the herbs.  I haven't felt too much.
> Don't know if I just
> didn't have too many parasites, or it just didn't
> work.  I also use
> aromatherapy oils and don't know if that has helped
> keep them at bay.  I
> use oregano oil orally whenever I feel a cold or flu
> coming on and have
> often stopped it in its tracks.
>
> But it sounds like many of you are zapping much more
> often and longer
> time periods than in Dr. Clark's book.  Has there
> ever been any limits
> talked about?  Does she in any of her later books
> say it's okay to zap
> that much.  I just worry about any side effects.  On
> one e-mail that I
> got, someone mentioned someone said someone told
> them they got permanent
> nerve damage from zapping.  But I couldn't find the
> e-mail again to read
> it again.
>
> I want to do what is going to be effective, but I
> want to be safe also.
> My step-dad is an electrician and had some concerns
> about the
> electricity going into your body and the minute
> chance it could
> interrupt the signal from the brain to the heart and
> stop your heart.
>
> Can some people tell me how often they zap and what
> time period and any
> bad experiences they've had or that you didn't
> notice anything until you
> zapped a certain amount.
>
> also has anyone found a rechargeable 9-volt battery
> that puts out that
> much?  I bought one and realized it said on the
> package output was 7
> volts and sure enough when I put my voltmeter on it,
> it was only 7 volts
> output.
>
> thanks,
> Lisa
>
>


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#5699 From: "flatzo2" <flatzo@...>
Date: Mon Sep 2, 2002 5:43 pm
Subject: Re: Trying to avoid Alzheimers
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--- In DrClark@y..., lynfarrow@a... wrote:
> Welcome, BeBe,
>
Lynn,
Thanks so much for your reply. Like you, I am almost certain
Hyperthyroidism is due to virus or bacteria. You were the only one
that responded & I really thought others moght help me with the
question about zapping more effeciently and successfully to avoid
Alzheimers the scourge that'a worse then Aids or Cancer where you
still have your faculties for the most part..  Oh well. Live and learn
(the hard way) and teach oneself (the easy way) Again ThnkuThnkuThnku

#5700 From: Shirley Reed <pj20844@...>
Date: Mon Sep 2, 2002 7:45 pm
Subject: thyroid and zapper
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  I found your post about the possibility of a link between hypothyroidism and 'critters' very interesting.   Were you using the Clark zapper?  How long did you use it?  Was the effect part of the parasite cleanse using the zapper?  Thank you.  pj



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#5701 From: lynfarrow@...
Date: Mon Sep 2, 2002 4:52 pm
Subject: Re: thyroid and zapper
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Dear PJ,

I have not used the Zapper for any thyroid condition but I'm interested in the growing body linking pathogens with diseases formerly thought to be degenerative or autoimmune. If you look up nanobacteria on Google you will see how heart and kidney disease have recently linked to bacteria. The Finnish scientists will get the Nobel Prize for this in several years, for sure.

I can't wait to hear the medical establishment admit there is no such thing as autoimmune disease, that it was a stupid default diagnosis when they didn't want to look any further.

As for thyroid and critters please check out the following sites:
About.com : http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/yersinia.htm

and also see:
Graves Disease
. BeBe, this might interest you too!

Lynne

Pj writes:

I found your post about the possibility of a link between hypothyroidism and 'critters' very interesting.   Were you using the Clark zapper?  How long did you use it?  Was the effect part of the parasite cleanse using the zapper?  Thank you.  pj



#5702 From: "silverswill@..." <silverswill@...>
Date: Mon Sep 2, 2002 8:54 pm
Subject: Re: zapping questions
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It might be due to the extra load on my kidney's since

I beleive they are still infected(little bit) with
whatever bacteria or slime mold causes calcium
phosphate stones.  I dont know if i mentioned it but
all this came about because I wore wet cloths on the
day I took a corticol steriod called betnesol which
turns off your adrenal glands,,,thus your immune
system as well and my bladder infection weather yeast
or whatever when straight to the kidney for trip
through hell...and now after 1 year I am finly started
to get more immunity back since intervening with the
clark method for immunity boosting as well as
zapping..

I still might have weak adrenals or kidney's or an
food
alergy caused during zapping I AM NOT SURE!!



--- Jan Bolen <jurimed@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Corbin Hansen,
> About no food when zapping - - - that is far, far
> from our own experience! We have zapped quite often
> in the last two years. With food, without food, 20
> minutes at a time, or overnight, we have NEVER had
> the experience you describe about boils coming out
> on your skin. I don't know of anybody else who has,
> either. Either you have strange die-off reactions or
> you need to attribute that condition to something
> else other than zapping.
> Jan Bolen
>  "silverswill@..." wrote:Things to Think about
> when Zapping that I have
> Personally Discovered!!
>
> 1. NO FOOD.(PERIOD). obstain from all foods at least
> 4-5 hours or more!! I have found that If you eat
> food
> and then zap you will get boils on your skin from
> toxins.(Bumps the size of hail then puss comes out
> then  bleeding a little bit then scale--very painful
> for about a week until they heal)
>
> 2. Lots of water distilled(MADE YOURSELF-Polar bear
> distiller(expenisve proffesional) or
> www.caycecures.com has a small portable water
> distiller) as store water is polluted with lots of
> Alcohol! prob even better as I beleive it can pick
> up
> junk easier than tap water and is easier on the
> kidney's.. When I had my severe kidney infection and
> my kidney's shut down, all i could drink was
> distilled
> water as the chlorine in tap water burned my kidneys
> and caused more pain..
>
> 3. Do not zap if weak heart, pacemacker etc..
>
> 4. Time duration is recommended to start out slow
> because you will have lots of die off. and lots of
> toxins and your kidneys and liver need to adjust for
> this load(DO NOT ZAP FOR THE FIRST TIME FOR AN HOUR
> OR
> MORE YOU MIGHT DO DAMAGE!--This is where that e-mail
> came from you talked about..  I am able to zap an
> hour
> or more due to the fact I started zapping about a
> year
> ago and have worked up to my tollerance limits and
> what  works for my condition. Each person is
> different.
>
> 5. Suggest you purchase a product called lymph detox
> by DNR (body bath) which helps lymph fluids settle
> down if you are having lymph pain from the die off..
>
>
> These suggestions are from what I have found
> personally and in no way should be construed as
> medical advice, and am not liable for any stupidity
> as
> I believe I had made enough stupid mistakes in
> discovering how this system works  :)
>
> Sincerley
> Corbin Hanson
>
> Donations welcome
> silverswill@...
>
>
>
> --- Lisa Doyon <lisadoyon@...> wrote:
> > I have been following your group for a couple
> weeks
> > and have some
> > questions.  I built myself a zapper from Dr.
> Clark's
> > book.  I have used
> > it along with the herbs.  I haven't felt too much.
>
> > Don't know if I just
> > didn't have too many parasites, or it just didn't
> > work.  I also use
> > aromatherapy oils and don't know if that has
> helped
> > keep them at bay.  I
> > use oregano oil orally whenever I feel a cold or
> flu
> > coming on and have
> > often stopped it in its tracks.
> >
> > But it sounds like many of you are zapping much
> more
> > often and longer
> > time periods than in Dr. Clark's book.  Has there
> > ever been any limits
> > talked about?  Does she in any of her later books
> > say it's okay to zap
> > that much.  I just worry about any side effects.
> On
> > one e-mail that I
> > got, someone mentioned someone said someone told
> > them they got permanent
> > nerve damage from zapping.  But I couldn't find
> the
> > e-mail again to read
> > it again.
> >
> > I want to do what is going to be effective, but I
> > want to be safe also.
> > My step-dad is an electrician and had some
> concerns
> > about the
> > electricity going into your body and the minute
> > chance it could
> > interrupt the signal from the brain to the heart
> and
> > stop your heart.
> >
> > Can some people tell me how often they zap and
> what
> > time period and any
> > bad experiences they've had or that you didn't
> > notice anything until you
> > zapped a certain amount.
> >
> > also has anyone found a rechargeable 9-volt
> battery
> > that puts out that
> > much?  I bought one and realized it said on the
> > package output was 7
> > volts and sure enough when I put my voltmeter on
> it,
> > it was only 7 volts
> > output.
> >
> > thanks,
> > Lisa
> >
> >
>
>
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#5703 From: "sunsong9910" <lesly_river@...>
Date: Mon Sep 2, 2002 11:13 pm
Subject: head lice
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Has anyone had experience using the Hulda Clark Zapper and her
parasite cleanse for head lice?
What with school returning and the risk of head lice coming home from
that direction, I would like to have a 'sure cure' without using the
pesticide lotions sold by the drugstores.
Anyone with any experience would be most appreciated.
Thanks

#5704 From: "~ Susan ~" <sbulmer@...>
Date: Tue Sep 3, 2002 12:07 am
Subject: hydrochloric acid
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HI,
Dr. Clarks book "A cure for all diseases" recommends getting your pharmacist
to make up a 1 percent hydrochloric acid solution.

has anyone done this?  Does anyone know of a  pharmacy that does this?

Thanks,
Susan

#5705 From: Patti Schippani <sedonanrg@...>
Date: Tue Sep 3, 2002 1:28 am
Subject: question for Patti
sedonanrg
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Hi Dianna,
The book is called "Raw Food Treatment of Cancer"  by Kristine Nolfi,
M.D.   ISBN 1-57258-057-7
Published by Teach Services Inc., Brushton, NY
You can order it through Nature's First Law at :
   http://www.rawfood.com/cgi-
bin/order/index.cgi?id=333497943160&c=Books&sc=Cancer

They also have a number of other books about raw food and cancer as
well.  I love that site as a good resource for the raw diet.
Also, www.living-foods.com is a good one.  They have a chat list where
you can post any questions you may have, and a number of people on there
have successfully treated their cancer with raw food too.
Patti



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> Patti, i just searched Amazon for this book, but they don't have it.
> can you
> tell me who the author/publisher is so i can order it at my local
> bookstore?
> thanks!
> -dianna
>
> cancer.  (See  the book "Raw Food Treatment for Cancer")
>
>
Patti :)

"Every body needs a massage"

#5706 From: "silverswill@..." <silverswill@...>
Date: Tue Sep 3, 2002 2:07 am
Subject: Re: hydrochloric acid
silverswill
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Might be easier to just by the 5% from dr.clark and
then dilute it down..to get 1%..
--- ~ Susan ~ <sbulmer@...> wrote:
> HI,
> Dr. Clarks book "A cure for all diseases" recommends
> getting your pharmacist
> to make up a 1 percent hydrochloric acid solution.
>
> has anyone done this?  Does anyone know of a
> pharmacy that does this?
>
> Thanks,
> Susan
>
>


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#5707 From: "DrCrandall@..." <drcrandall@...>
Date: Tue Sep 3, 2002 3:06 am
Subject: Natural products
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Following is an email I received from a company selling natural care products after I inquired as to how 'natural' their products really are.  I have no personal investment in this company.
=======================================================
 

Great to hear from you, Anna.

We actually work on making our products usable and acceptable

to all of us who try to live as clean and as natural as it is

possible in today's World.

We actually strive to make all our products in line with Dr

Hulda  Clark's  (and similar) teachings.

Please, feel free to contact us with any questions or in

regards to any products that you may be looking for.

I look forward to hearing from you in the near future.

Daniela Sales

http://www.scentofnature.com 

 

 


#5708 From: "~ Susan ~" <sbulmer@...>
Date: Tue Sep 3, 2002 11:30 am
Subject: Re: hydrochloric acid
sbulmer@...
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Hi,
Do you use this?  I thought that hydrochloric acid required a prescription
in the US.  Am I wrong about this ?

Susan
----- Original Message -----
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Subject: Re: [DrClark] hydrochloric acid


> Might be easier to just by the 5% from dr.clark and
> then dilute it down..to get 1%..
> --- ~ Susan ~ <sbulmer@...> wrote:
> > HI,
> > Dr. Clarks book "A cure for all diseases" recommends
> > getting your pharmacist
> > to make up a 1 percent hydrochloric acid solution.
> >
> > has anyone done this?  Does anyone know of a
> > pharmacy that does this?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Susan
> >
> >
>
>
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#5709 From: "Steve" <bigbird3969@...>
Date: Tue Sep 3, 2002 9:22 am
Subject: TX Cancer Convention _OT
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Last week I was trying to inform people of the convention on alternative cancer
treatments in CA and either noone was interested, or noone lived near CA (I
assume). Well since it is over, you can now go to the web site and purchasre
presentation videos and/or speaker videos.

Now, I've received something from the Dr. Mercola site that on 9/12-15 they are
having a convention in the Dallas-Ft. Worth area. The last one had cancer
patients thagt had recovered to testify for doubters/newcomers to alternatives
in general, but I'm unsure of the details of this conference except that the
cost starts at $30/day!!

Any other info can be found on the <www.mercola.com> web site. My WebTv could
not pick up the info from the provided link in the article, but maybe someone
else can.

Steve

#5710 From: "flatzo2" <flatzo@...>
Date: Tue Sep 3, 2002 5:38 pm
Subject: Oregno Drainage
flatzo2
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I am looking for experience with the oregano oil use in draining
skin sores. I've had one for years now which usually remained
small and dorment with occational drainage. When that
happened, I would clean it wiht hydrogenperoxide and coat it with
aloe sap. Yesterday I tried washing it with diluted dental bleach,
and then put a small compress of oregano oil on it. I have
changed it four times, three yesterday, noting drainage each time
with darkening and redening of the skin in the proximaty. This
last time I noted swelling which felt like it was fluid filled. Does
anyone know if this is normal? I don't know if it is getting better or
worse. Any input would be appreciated.

BeBe suggested I post this to this foreum. Thanks, BeBe's
friend.

#5711 From: Lisa Doyon <lisadoyon@...>
Date: Tue Sep 3, 2002 6:35 pm
Subject: Re: Oregno Drainage
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Is the oregano being diluted down before use?  Oregano is a very strong
oil and should always be diluted before using.  Somebody was asking
about head lice.  It can be used to treat head lice as well as skin
problems.  But another oil that is not as strong is tea tree oil.  It
works for many things.  Also if you use oils like tea tree and oregano
too often or not diluted enough, they can cause reactions.  You actually
can develop a sensitivity to it.
Lisa

#5712 From: jalisic579@...
Date: Tue Sep 3, 2002 2:46 pm
Subject: Re: Oregno Drainage
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Roast some red onion and apply poultice.  Change twice a day.

Jasmina

#5713 From: "Jenny Evely" <je@...>
Date: Tue Sep 3, 2002 7:08 pm
Subject: tooth extractions now what??
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I recently had two extractions because I opted not to have root canals.  Now
I am in a quandary as to what I should do next...Dr Clark seems to be very
adamantly against a bridge or an implant
I need advice as to what I should do next
thanks

#5714 From: "flatzo2" <flatzo@...>
Date: Tue Sep 3, 2002 8:30 pm
Subject: Re: Oregno Drainage
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Lisa

I did not dilute the oregano oil. Probably I have a reaction. I could
try the onion suggestion or just let it be and see what happens. It
wants to continue draining.

Thanks for your reply!  BB'sF

--- In DrClark@y..., Lisa Doyon <lisadoyon@a...> wrote:
> Is the oregano being diluted down before use?  Oregano is a
very strong oil and should always be diluted before using.
Somebody was asking about head lice.  It can be used to treat
head lice as well as skin problems.  But another oil that is not as
strong is tea tree oil.  It works for many things.  Also if you use
oils like tea tree and oregano too often or not diluted enough,
they can cause reactions.  You actually can develop a sensitivity
to it.
> Lisa

#5715 From: "flatzo2" <flatzo@...>
Date: Tue Sep 3, 2002 8:35 pm
Subject: Re: Oregno Drainage
flatzo2
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Jasmina

Thank you. I am a novice at this. I am going to watch it for a day
and then try your suggestion. I'm a little gun shy about putting
something on something. And I have to find out how to make
poultice and what it is. I am a novice.

Thanks again BB'sF

--- In DrClark@y..., jalisic579@a... wrote:
> Roast some red onion and apply poultice.  Change twice a
day.
>
> Jasmina

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