Hi Leo:
would you mind giving me more info on the people or machines who do the testing?
I have been wanting to get my water tested.
Thanks
Linda




________________________________
From: regehr2001 <leoelfie@...>
To: DrClark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 6:14:47 AM
Subject: [DrClark] Re: The use of Dr Clark's time...


They are doing both. There are some sycrometer testers in Canada, and
some in the US. There are also machines that test for the general
presence of toxins, pathogens, and markers.
Leo
------------ --------- ---
--- In DrClark@yahoogroups .com, "Ken Bagwell" <kenancy2000@ ...> wrote:
>
> Linda,
>
> Are people here using the syncrometer as Dr. Clark suggests, or are
> they just relying on what Dr. Clark is telling them?
>
> I'm hoping for the former, because people really should be verifying
> things for themselves, not just relying on someone else for truth.
>
> -Ken
>
> --- In DrClark@yahoogroups .com, Linda Evans <lindae321@> wrote:
> >
> > It sure is discouraging to not be able to find a reliable person
> that can do testing for us
> > without having to bother Dr. Clark
> > Any ideas?
> > linda
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > From: Ken Bagwell <kenancy2000@ >
> > To: DrClark@yahoogroups .com
> > Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 2:56:52 PM
> > Subject: [DrClark] Re: The use of Dr Clark's time...
> >
> >
> > What is dowsing, and why is the person using the device crucial for
> > accuracy?
> >
> > -Ken
> >
> > --- In DrClark@yahoogroups .com, Edy Rayfield <edyrayfield@ ...>
wrote:
> > >
> > > I have heard the same thing.  I have a dentist that uses an EAV on
> > me and have heard from others that use bicom and similar devices, but
> > all agree that the person doing the testing is crucial for accuracy.
> > >
> > > --- On Fri, 11/14/08, Jim Meissner2 <jpmeissner2@ ...> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Jim Meissner2 <jpmeissner2@ ...>
> > > Subject: RE: [DrClark] The use of Dr Clark's time...
> > > To: DrClark@yahoogroups .com
> > > Date: Friday, November 14, 2008, 1:47 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Ken:
> > >
> > > I built a syncrometer 20 years ago and came to the conclusion that
> > it is a
> > > dowsing device and depends on the skill or "receptivity" of the
> > user. The
> > > tone reflects skin conductivity. I doubt that there are many
> people who
> > > have the ability to use the device. I know a few people who can do
> > muscle
> > > testing and get good results. I believe a pendulum gives similar
> > results.
> > >
> > > Just my two cents worth.
> > >
> > > Jim Meissner
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: DrClark@yahoogroups .com [mailto:DrClark@ yahoogroups .com] On
> > Behalf Of
> > > Ken Bagwell
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 6:44 AM
> > > To: DrClark@yahoogroups .com
> > > Subject: [DrClark] The use of Dr Clark's time...
> > >
> > > I did want to mention one other thing. After watching the included
> > > DVD with the book, Dr Clark says that she spends nearly 7 days a
week
> > > using the syncrometer to test for pollutants and parasites for
> > > ..patients, I guess.
> > >
> > > It seems like a tremendous waste of Dr Clark's time to do grunt work
> > > like that. Why wouldn't she hire someone to do syncrometer
tests, and
> > > have herself continue with research, refining theories and maybe
doing
> > > more interviews or conventions or something to get people interested
> > > and understanding this stuff?
> > >
> > > Understand that I'm not saying the syncrometer testing in itself
is a
> > > waste of time, but that it is a waste of Dr Clark's time to do
> > > something so repetitive, it just seems like she should have an
> > > assistant take care of that 90% of the time.
> > >
> > > -Ken
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>






[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I am in the last day of my Parasite Cleanse. (Have done the 18 day cleanse on
numerous
times.)  Most often than not, I will feel die-off aches and pains in my joints
after the first few
days of the cleanse.  This time around I felt the die-off at day 15.  Is this
unusual?  I was
diagnosed with RA about 6 years ago and have been in remission about 6 months
after the
diagnosis.  I am feeling a flare up- late in cleanse process, no?  Also, on my
next cleanse if I
was to use artemisinin (the major component of wormwood) at what mg should I
use, with
the protocol of starting with one capsule on the first day of the cleanse?  Any 
help or
comments are appreciated.  Thanks, Micky

without a bit more information it would be unwise to offer much, but, that
having been said, my own experience indicates that by far, the majority of lower
back pain is toxicity related. Upper back pain can and usually does [exclusive
of muscular related issues] relate to liver problems.

Since you say, "...I believe I have HPV ..." [and, I assume you are referring to
Human Papillo Virus] it sounds like you are unsure.  Having the back pain only
 "Now and then" would seem to me to call the existence of parasites into
question.

My respectful suggestion would be to first determine whether or not you have a
varying colon Toxicity level ... 'varying' based upon food intake, undesirable
body pH,  and/or other parasite activity, such as Candida Albicans.  The pain
movement from top to bottom or otherwise, might relate to Liver pathologies
[parasites] of several kinds, in which case Clark protocols [ NOT however, the
Zapper] judiciously applied, would provide relief. 

Nutricon - Luke
 




________________________________
From: Ed <ejones@...>
To: DrClark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 1:28:57 PM
Subject: [DrClark] HPV in spine



I believe I have HPV in my spine and my back hurts every now and then (the pain
starts at the top of my back near shoulders and a few days later I have pain in
my lower back only and upper is fine).

Which would be the best approve to combat this?

Clark Zapper?
Using a Godzilla on my wrist?
Terminator II?

Herbs such as oil or oregano?






[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

SCIO OR BICOM 2000
roger

--- On Mon, 11/24/08, Ed <ejones@...> wrote:

From: Ed <ejones@...>
Subject: [DrClark] HPV in spine
To: DrClark@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 2:28 PM







I believe I have HPV in my spine and my back hurts every now and then (the pain
starts at the top of my back near shoulders and a few days later I have pain in
my lower back only and upper is fine).

Which would be the best approve to combat this?

Clark Zapper?
Using a Godzilla on my wrist?
Terminator II?

Herbs such as oil or oregano?


















[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I believe I have HPV in my spine and my back hurts every now and then (the pain
starts at the top of my back near shoulders and a few days later I have pain in
my lower back only and upper is fine).

Which would be the best approve to combat this?

Clark Zapper?
Using a Godzilla on my wrist?
Terminator II?

Herbs such as oil or oregano?

I will try again. Scroll back on this list to Dec 27/07 and you will
see stories on ozone as Dr. Clark used it, specifically message no.
19162. Also, go to
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ozonetherapy/?yguid=40873506
for a Q&A list moderated by Dr. Pressman. Very good info.
Let us know how you make out.
Leo
-------------------------------
--- In DrClark@yahoogroups.com, Edy Rayfield <edyrayfield@...> wrote:
>
> It didn't come through for me either.  Would love to see it.  Hope
you get these and resend.  thanks for the tip.
>
> --- On Wed, 11/19/08, summer@... <summer@...> wrote:
>
> From: summer@... <summer@...>
> Subject: [DrClark] RE: Prostate Cancer
> To: DrClark@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2008, 11:19 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Leo,
>
> I did not see a link for this site, maybe you could resend it? Thank
> you, I would like to forward this to a friend who is very interested.
> Thanks,
> Karin
>
> ============ =
> The most effective therapy is ozone therapy. Search this site for
> references.
> Leo
> =3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=
3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D
> =3D=
> =3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D
> --- In DrClark@yahoogroups .com, "wojtek390" <wojciech@ .> wrote:
> >
> > I have a dilema. My father (72 years) was given a Zoladex 3 month
> > implant injection to reduce testosteron production. Also 2 months ago
> > I have put him thru' Dr Clark's "21 day program". After that his PSA
> > has gone down from 74 to 7 which made us happy.=20
> >=20
> > However his orthodox doctor (not familiar with Dr Clark) recommends
> > another 3 month Zoladex injection.He doesn't know about "21 day
> > program" or any kind of alternative medicine. I'm worried that the
> > injection will have side effects on his bones etc. Has anyone been
> > thru' this dilema and can advise? I want to put him thru' another "21
> > day program" in December. Should he take the injection again as well
> > as "21 day program"?
> > Wojtek
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

They are doing both. There are some sycrometer testers in Canada, and
some in the US. There are also machines that test for the general
presence of toxins, pathogens, and markers.
Leo
------------------------
--- In DrClark@yahoogroups.com, "Ken Bagwell" <kenancy2000@...> wrote:
>
> Linda,
>
> Are people here using the syncrometer as Dr. Clark suggests, or are
> they just relying on what Dr. Clark is telling them?
>
> I'm hoping for the former, because people really should be verifying
> things for themselves, not just relying on someone else for truth.
>
> -Ken
>
> --- In DrClark@yahoogroups.com, Linda Evans <lindae321@> wrote:
> >
> > It sure is discouraging to not be able to find a reliable person
> that can do testing for us
> > without having to bother Dr. Clark
> > Any ideas?
> > linda
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Ken Bagwell <kenancy2000@>
> > To: DrClark@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 2:56:52 PM
> > Subject: [DrClark] Re: The use of Dr Clark's time...
> >
> >
> > What is dowsing, and why is the person using the device crucial for
> > accuracy?
> >
> > -Ken
> >
> > --- In DrClark@yahoogroups .com, Edy Rayfield <edyrayfield@ ...>
wrote:
> > >
> > > I have heard the same thing.  I have a dentist that uses an EAV on
> > me and have heard from others that use bicom and similar devices, but
> > all agree that the person doing the testing is crucial for accuracy.
> > >
> > > --- On Fri, 11/14/08, Jim Meissner2 <jpmeissner2@ ...> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Jim Meissner2 <jpmeissner2@ ...>
> > > Subject: RE: [DrClark] The use of Dr Clark's time...
> > > To: DrClark@yahoogroups .com
> > > Date: Friday, November 14, 2008, 1:47 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Ken:
> > >
> > > I built a syncrometer 20 years ago and came to the conclusion that
> > it is a
> > > dowsing device and depends on the skill or "receptivity" of the
> > user. The
> > > tone reflects skin conductivity. I doubt that there are many
> people who
> > > have the ability to use the device. I know a few people who can do
> > muscle
> > > testing and get good results. I believe a pendulum gives similar
> > results.
> > >
> > > Just my two cents worth.
> > >
> > > Jim Meissner
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: DrClark@yahoogroups .com [mailto:DrClark@ yahoogroups .com] On
> > Behalf Of
> > > Ken Bagwell
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 6:44 AM
> > > To: DrClark@yahoogroups .com
> > > Subject: [DrClark] The use of Dr Clark's time...
> > >
> > > I did want to mention one other thing. After watching the included
> > > DVD with the book, Dr Clark says that she spends nearly 7 days a
week
> > > using the syncrometer to test for pollutants and parasites for
> > > ..patients, I guess.
> > >
> > > It seems like a tremendous waste of Dr Clark's time to do grunt work
> > > like that. Why wouldn't she hire someone to do syncrometer
tests, and
> > > have herself continue with research, refining theories and maybe
doing
> > > more interviews or conventions or something to get people interested
> > > and understanding this stuff?
> > >
> > > Understand that I'm not saying the syncrometer testing in itself
is a
> > > waste of time, but that it is a waste of Dr Clark's time to do
> > > something so repetitive, it just seems like she should have an
> > > assistant take care of that 90% of the time.
> > >
> > > -Ken
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

It didn't come through for me either.  Would love to see it.  Hope you get these
and resend.  thanks for the tip.

--- On Wed, 11/19/08, summer@... <summer@...> wrote:

From: summer@... <summer@...>
Subject: [DrClark] RE: Prostate Cancer
To: DrClark@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2008, 11:19 AM






Hi Leo,

I did not see a link for this site, maybe you could resend it? Thank
you, I would like to forward this to a friend who is very interested.
Thanks,
Karin

============ =
The most effective therapy is ozone therapy. Search this site for
references.
Leo
=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D
=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D
--- In DrClark@yahoogroups .com, "wojtek390" <wojciech@.. .> wrote:
>
> I have a dilema. My father (72 years) was given a Zoladex 3 month
> implant injection to reduce testosteron production. Also 2 months ago
> I have put him thru' Dr Clark's "21 day program". After that his PSA
> has gone down from 74 to 7 which made us happy.=20
>=20
> However his orthodox doctor (not familiar with Dr Clark) recommends
> another 3 month Zoladex injection.He doesn't know about "21 day
> program" or any kind of alternative medicine. I'm worried that the
> injection will have side effects on his bones etc. Has anyone been
> thru' this dilema and can advise? I want to put him thru' another "21
> day program" in December. Should he take the injection again as well
> as "21 day program"?
> Wojtek















[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Ken:
to tell you the truth, I don't know.  Some are and some are relying on the
Clark's word
I have done the liver, kidney and parasite cleanses and they work exactly as she
says.
So I am assuming she knows what she is talking about.
I always wished there was a success story site and some statistics.
Maybe there is.
linda




________________________________
From: Ken Bagwell <kenancy2000@...>
To: DrClark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 12:29:22 PM
Subject: [DrClark] Re: The use of Dr Clark's time...


Linda,

Are people here using the syncrometer as Dr. Clark suggests, or are
they just relying on what Dr. Clark is telling them?

I'm hoping for the former, because people really should be verifying
things for themselves, not just relying on someone else for truth.

-Ken

--- In DrClark@yahoogroups .com, Linda Evans <lindae321@. ..> wrote:
>
> It sure is discouraging to not be able to find a reliable person
that can do testing for us
> without having to bother Dr. Clark
> Any ideas?
> linda
>
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: Ken Bagwell <kenancy2000@ ...>
> To: DrClark@yahoogroups .com
> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 2:56:52 PM
> Subject: [DrClark] Re: The use of Dr Clark's time...
>
>
> What is dowsing, and why is the person using the device crucial for
> accuracy?
>
> -Ken
>
> --- In DrClark@yahoogroups .com, Edy Rayfield <edyrayfield@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > I have heard the same thing.  I have a dentist that uses an EAV on
> me and have heard from others that use bicom and similar devices, but
> all agree that the person doing the testing is crucial for accuracy.
> >
> > --- On Fri, 11/14/08, Jim Meissner2 <jpmeissner2@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > From: Jim Meissner2 <jpmeissner2@ ...>
> > Subject: RE: [DrClark] The use of Dr Clark's time...
> > To: DrClark@yahoogroups .com
> > Date: Friday, November 14, 2008, 1:47 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear Ken:
> >
> > I built a syncrometer 20 years ago and came to the conclusion that
> it is a
> > dowsing device and depends on the skill or "receptivity" of the
> user. The
> > tone reflects skin conductivity. I doubt that there are many
people who
> > have the ability to use the device. I know a few people who can do
> muscle
> > testing and get good results. I believe a pendulum gives similar
> results.
> >
> > Just my two cents worth.
> >
> > Jim Meissner
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: DrClark@yahoogroups .com [mailto:DrClark@ yahoogroups .com] On
> Behalf Of
> > Ken Bagwell
> > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 6:44 AM
> > To: DrClark@yahoogroups .com
> > Subject: [DrClark] The use of Dr Clark's time...
> >
> > I did want to mention one other thing. After watching the included
> > DVD with the book, Dr Clark says that she spends nearly 7 days a week
> > using the syncrometer to test for pollutants and parasites for
> > ..patients, I guess.
> >
> > It seems like a tremendous waste of Dr Clark's time to do grunt work
> > like that. Why wouldn't she hire someone to do syncrometer tests, and
> > have herself continue with research, refining theories and maybe doing
> > more interviews or conventions or something to get people interested
> > and understanding this stuff?
> >
> > Understand that I'm not saying the syncrometer testing in itself is a
> > waste of time, but that it is a waste of Dr Clark's time to do
> > something so repetitive, it just seems like she should have an
> > assistant take care of that 90% of the time.
> >
> > -Ken
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>






[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Leo,

I did not see a link for this site, maybe you could resend it? Thank
you, I would like to forward this to a friend who is very interested.
Thanks,
Karin

=============
The most effective therapy is ozone therapy. Search this site for
references.
Leo
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
--- In DrClark@yahoogroups.com, "wojtek390" <wojciech@...> wrote:
  >
  > I have a dilema. My father (72 years) was given a Zoladex 3 month
  > implant injection to reduce testosteron production. Also 2 months ago
  > I have put him thru' Dr Clark's "21 day program". After that his PSA
  > has gone down from 74 to 7 which made us happy.=20
  >=20
  > However his orthodox doctor (not familiar with Dr Clark) recommends
  > another 3 month Zoladex injection.He doesn't know about "21 day
  > program" or any kind of alternative medicine. I'm worried that the
  > injection will have side effects on his bones etc. Has anyone been
  > thru' this dilema and can advise? I want to put him thru' another "21
  > day program" in December. Should he take the injection again as well
  > as "21 day program"?
  > Wojtek

Linda,

Are people here using the syncrometer as Dr. Clark suggests, or are
they just relying on what Dr. Clark is telling them?

I'm hoping for the former, because people really should be verifying
things for themselves, not just relying on someone else for truth.

-Ken

--- In DrClark@yahoogroups.com, Linda Evans <lindae321@...> wrote:
>
> It sure is discouraging to not be able to find a reliable person
that can do testing for us
> without having to bother Dr. Clark
> Any ideas?
> linda
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Ken Bagwell <kenancy2000@...>
> To: DrClark@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 2:56:52 PM
> Subject: [DrClark] Re: The use of Dr Clark's time...
>
>
> What is dowsing, and why is the person using the device crucial for
> accuracy?
>
> -Ken
>
> --- In DrClark@yahoogroups .com, Edy Rayfield <edyrayfield@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > I have heard the same thing.  I have a dentist that uses an EAV on
> me and have heard from others that use bicom and similar devices, but
> all agree that the person doing the testing is crucial for accuracy.
> >
> > --- On Fri, 11/14/08, Jim Meissner2 <jpmeissner2@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > From: Jim Meissner2 <jpmeissner2@ ...>
> > Subject: RE: [DrClark] The use of Dr Clark's time...
> > To: DrClark@yahoogroups .com
> > Date: Friday, November 14, 2008, 1:47 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear Ken:
> >
> > I built a syncrometer 20 years ago and came to the conclusion that
> it is a
> > dowsing device and depends on the skill or "receptivity" of the
> user. The
> > tone reflects skin conductivity. I doubt that there are many
people who
> > have the ability to use the device. I know a few people who can do
> muscle
> > testing and get good results. I believe a pendulum gives similar
> results.
> >
> > Just my two cents worth.
> >
> > Jim Meissner
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: DrClark@yahoogroups .com [mailto:DrClark@ yahoogroups .com] On
> Behalf Of
> > Ken Bagwell
> > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 6:44 AM
> > To: DrClark@yahoogroups .com
> > Subject: [DrClark] The use of Dr Clark's time...
> >
> > I did want to mention one other thing. After watching the included
> > DVD with the book, Dr Clark says that she spends nearly 7 days a week
> > using the syncrometer to test for pollutants and parasites for
> > ..patients, I guess.
> >
> > It seems like a tremendous waste of Dr Clark's time to do grunt work
> > like that. Why wouldn't she hire someone to do syncrometer tests, and
> > have herself continue with research, refining theories and maybe doing
> > more interviews or conventions or something to get people interested
> > and understanding this stuff?
> >
> > Understand that I'm not saying the syncrometer testing in itself is a
> > waste of time, but that it is a waste of Dr Clark's time to do
> > something so repetitive, it just seems like she should have an
> > assistant take care of that 90% of the time.
> >
> > -Ken
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

The most effective therapy is ozone therapy. Search this site for
references.
Leo
==================================
--- In DrClark@yahoogroups.com, "wojtek390" <wojciech@...> wrote:
>
> I have a dilema. My father (72 years) was given a Zoladex 3 month
> implant injection to reduce testosteron production. Also 2 months ago
> I have put him thru' Dr Clark's "21 day program". After that his PSA
> has gone down from 74 to 7 which made us happy.
>
> However his orthodox doctor (not familiar with Dr Clark) recommends
> another 3 month Zoladex injection.He doesn't know about "21 day
> program" or any kind of alternative medicine. I'm worried that the
> injection will have side effects on his bones etc. Has anyone been
> thru' this dilema and can advise? I want to put him thru' another "21
> day program" in December. Should he take the injection again as well
> as "21 day program"?
> Wojtek
>

Hi Ken,
 
In a word.  Beats me, but I've heard so many say it now that it's either true or
a factoid.  Despite popular belief about what a factoid is, it's something
deamed true, not because it is a fact, but because it's been said so many times.

--- On Mon, 11/17/08, Ken Bagwell <kenancy2000@...> wrote:

From: Ken Bagwell <kenancy2000@...>
Subject: [DrClark] Re: The use of Dr Clark's time...
To: DrClark@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 17, 2008, 2:56 PM






What is dowsing, and why is the person using the device crucial for
accuracy?

-Ken

--- In DrClark@yahoogroups .com, Edy Rayfield <edyrayfield@ ...> wrote:
>
> I have heard the same thing.  I have a dentist that uses an EAV on
me and have heard from others that use bicom and similar devices, but
all agree that the person doing the testing is crucial for accuracy.
>
> --- On Fri, 11/14/08, Jim Meissner2 <jpmeissner2@ ...> wrote:
>
> From: Jim Meissner2 <jpmeissner2@ ...>
> Subject: RE: [DrClark] The use of Dr Clark's time...
> To: DrClark@yahoogroups .com
> Date: Friday, November 14, 2008, 1:47 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Dear Ken:
>
> I built a syncrometer 20 years ago and came to the conclusion that
it is a
> dowsing device and depends on the skill or "receptivity" of the
user. The
> tone reflects skin conductivity. I doubt that there are many people who
> have the ability to use the device. I know a few people who can do
muscle
> testing and get good results. I believe a pendulum gives similar
results.
>
> Just my two cents worth.
>
> Jim Meissner
>
> _____
>
> From: DrClark@yahoogroups .com [mailto:DrClark@ yahoogroups .com] On
Behalf Of
> Ken Bagwell
> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 6:44 AM
> To: DrClark@yahoogroups .com
> Subject: [DrClark] The use of Dr Clark's time...
>
> I did want to mention one other thing. After watching the included
> DVD with the book, Dr Clark says that she spends nearly 7 days a week
> using the syncrometer to test for pollutants and parasites for
> ..patients, I guess.
>
> It seems like a tremendous waste of Dr Clark's time to do grunt work
> like that. Why wouldn't she hire someone to do syncrometer tests, and
> have herself continue with research, refining theories and maybe doing
> more interviews or conventions or something to get people interested
> and understanding this stuff?
>
> Understand that I'm not saying the syncrometer testing in itself is a
> waste of time, but that it is a waste of Dr Clark's time to do
> something so repetitive, it just seems like she should have an
> assistant take care of that 90% of the time.
>
> -Ken
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>















[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I have a dilema. My father (72 years) was given a Zoladex 3 month
implant injection to reduce testosteron production. Also 2 months ago
I have put him thru' Dr Clark's "21 day program". After that his PSA
has gone down from 74 to 7 which made us happy.

However his orthodox doctor (not familiar with Dr Clark) recommends
another 3 month Zoladex injection.He doesn't know about "21 day
program" or any kind of alternative medicine. I'm worried that the
injection will have side effects on his bones etc. Has anyone been
thru' this dilema and can advise? I want to put him thru' another "21
day program" in December. Should he take the injection again as well
as "21 day program"?
Wojtek

I just want to mention one thing on this.  Tho I thought that was a good post,
Jim.  My dentist uses EAV.  He has found heavy metals, lyme, and some other
things.  I have to tell you that all of these have been quantified and verified
by medical testing before the EAV.  I had not told the doc of these, his machine
and computer found them.  That says something to me.  I do wonder if it's him or
the program.  But he is very good at using the program.

--- On Tue, 11/18/08, Jim Meissner2 <jpmeissner2@...> wrote:

From: Jim Meissner2 <jpmeissner2@...>
Subject: RE: [DrClark] Re: The use of Dr Clark's time...
To: DrClark@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 10:11 AM






There are many forms of dowsing, pendulum, L rods, forked stick to find
water, applied kinesiology also know as muscle testing, EAV electric
acupuncture according to Voll, etc.

EVERYONE has the ability to learn these techniques. What stands in the way
is the current belief system that ridicules mental skills and favors
"scientific" hard evidence. Our physical universe is just a tiny portion
of all there is. It is possible to communicate with the rest of the
universe and not be restricted to just what is in front of one's nose. What
to call this depends on your religious or non religious upbringing. Some
would call this talking to god, angels, Pan, nature, the universe, etc. Of
course, some born again believers will be told that this is the devil.

With my electronic and programming background, I jokingly call this the BIG
computer in the sky. It is possible to access this computer and find the
answer to almost anything. BUT how you ask or phrase the question will
definitely affect the answers you get. This is where most people who
attempt this will fail. To ask will it rain tomorrow without stating where,
will get you wrong seeming answers. I like the computer analogy since the
answers are based on very literal computer like interpretation of the
question. With some practice it is possible to get past the simple yes/no
answer structure. The first step is to eliminate the physical help tools or
training wheels and get the mental yes/no answers, and then get some longer
dialog and explanations. The world would be quite different if everyone
made an effort to raise their consciousness.

Jim Meissner

_____

From: DrClark@yahoogroups .com [mailto:DrClark@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of
Linda Evans
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 1:10 AM
To: DrClark@yahoogroups .com
Subject: Re: [DrClark] Re: The use of Dr Clark's time...

It sure is discouraging to not be able to find a reliable person that can do
testing for us
without having to bother Dr. Clark
Any ideas?
linda

____________ _________ _________ __
From: Ken Bagwell <kenancy2000@ <mailto:kenancy2000 %40yahoo. com> yahoo.com>
To: DrClark@yahoogroups <mailto:DrClark% 40yahoogroups. com> .com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 2:56:52 PM
Subject: [DrClark] Re: The use of Dr Clark's time...

What is dowsing, and why is the person using the device crucial for
accuracy?

-Ken

--- In DrClark@yahoogroups .com, Edy Rayfield <edyrayfield@ ...> wrote:
>
> I have heard the same thing. I have a dentist that uses an EAV on
me and have heard from others that use bicom and similar devices, but
all agree that the person doing the testing is crucial for accuracy.
>
> --- On Fri, 11/14/08, Jim Meissner2 <jpmeissner2@ ...> wrote:
>
> From: Jim Meissner2 <jpmeissner2@ ...>
> Subject: RE: [DrClark] The use of Dr Clark's time...
> To: DrClark@yahoogroups .com
> Date: Friday, November 14, 2008, 1:47 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Dear Ken:
>
> I built a syncrometer 20 years ago and came to the conclusion that
it is a
> dowsing device and depends on the skill or "receptivity" of the
user. The
> tone reflects skin conductivity. I doubt that there are many people who
> have the ability to use the device. I know a few people who can do
muscle
> testing and get good results. I believe a pendulum gives similar
results.
>
> Just my two cents worth.
>
> Jim Meissner
>
> _____
>
> From: DrClark@yahoogroups .com [mailto:DrClark@ yahoogroups .com] On
Behalf Of
> Ken Bagwell
> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 6:44 AM
> To: DrClark@yahoogroups .com
> Subject: [DrClark] The use of Dr Clark's time...
>
> I did want to mention one other thing. After watching the included
> DVD with the book, Dr Clark says that she spends nearly 7 days a week
> using the syncrometer to test for pollutants and parasites for
> ..patients, I guess.
>
> It seems like a tremendous waste of Dr Clark's time to do grunt work
> like that. Why wouldn't she hire someone to do syncrometer tests, and
> have herself continue with research, refining theories and maybe doing
> more interviews or conventions or something to get people interested
> and understanding this stuff?
>
> Understand that I'm not saying the syncrometer testing in itself is a
> waste of time, but that it is a waste of Dr Clark's time to do
> something so repetitive, it just seems like she should have an
> assistant take care of that 90% of the time.
>
> -Ken
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]















[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Kinesiology-research




Next To Prayer the Most Powerful Healing Technique I Am Aware of

I think it is important to start out with the understanding that I believe that
God is the most potent healing force in the universe and that He has provided us
with a powerful inexpensive healing tool that we have available to us at all
times. That is a personal two-way communication with Him called prayer.
I am absolutely convinced, without question, that prayer is the most powerful
therapeutic move one can do. I generally advise people to journal their prayers.
You can do this by writing non-stop for thirty minutes.
You can also type your prayers. It is not important to save the journal. In fact
destroying immediately after writing may decrease the fear of not saying what
one really wants to for fear of it being found. The healing comes in the writing
not the reviewing of it at a later date.
However, it is my experience that either most people do not use this approach,
fail to use it effectively, or their prayers do not result in the healing they
seek.
I have learned that one of the most profound healing strategies next to prayer
involves normalization of the body's electrical circuitry through testing the
muscle strength in response to a challenge that is given to it.
I call this type of therapy muscle reflex testing (MRT), as that is how the
treatment is performed. Our therapists generally use muscle strength as a guide
to help them identify imbalances in your energy system. Yes, you do have an
energy system that is every bit as real as your circulatory, nervous and immune
system.
Unfortunately traditional medicine does not fully acknowledge this system and
not much "scientific" research has been done on it. How do I know this? Medicine
is my passion and my hobby.
I also have been writing an international health newsletter for the last three
years. Every week I review several hundred studies that were published, so I am
quite familiar with what the current "scientific" understanding of health is.
The information discussed in this paper is probably ten to twenty years away
from even being studied in traditional medical circles. You may ask, "why is
that?" Most of this results from the fact that the original work was developed
in the chiropractic profession.
Although the profession overall does a marvelous job of training clinicians with
a mindset towards natural healing methods, they do seem to fall short on
publishing generating research in traditional medical journals.
This is also complicated by an intrinsic prejudice that most medical doctors
have of chiropractic. They seem to view most of them as quacks who are hurting
people more than helping them. Many of these doctors are on the editorial boards
of the journals and would not be likely to publish a study, even if it were done
properly.
Another issue is that the vast majority of chiropractors are more oriented to
the practical aspects of medicine. They are interested in applying the results,
not in documenting something they are doing that they know works. I believe this
is the major reason that there really are currently no good books about this
work.
My Initial Exposure To This Type of Work
Anyway, my journey in this alternative healing strategy began in 1998 when I
took a training course in Thought Field Therapy. This course opened my eyes to
the incredible healing power that God has provided in our brain and nervous
system.
When I was in medical school, I became brainwashed with the drug model and would
use them frequently for problems that primarily resulted from emotional
wounding.
The drug model has come up with some effective tools in saving people's lives,
but in my experience they are nearly always a band-aid and rarely addresses the
central foundational cause of the illness.
These techniques offer a completely different approach to healing. They rely on
normalizing the abnormal energy blocks that develop as a result of the wounding
that we all go through in life.
These blocks tend to short-circuit the normal energy pathways with which we were
born. This short-circuiting frequently results in the chronic health symptoms
that most people have.
Muscle Testing
You may have heard of muscle testing before. There are many different forms of
muscle testing one can use to achieve these results. It started in the
chiropractic profession with Dr. Goodhart who had a technique that is widely
used today called Applied Kinesiology. There are many variations that are around
today.
The actual specific techniques are not critical but our therapists have taken
many of the more effective hybrids of Applied Kinesiology such as Total Body
Modification (TBM), Neuro Emotional Technique (NET), Applied Psycho Neurobiology
(APN), Autonomic Response Testing (ART), Applied Psycho-NeurobiologyPsycho
(APN), and Touch for Health. I simplify the naming by just calling it muscle
reflex testing.
I once saw a 30 year-old computer engineer who had a meticulously perfect diet
and had a chronic rash for ten years. He had spent thousands of dollars on tests
and dozens of excellent doctors to try to improve his rash but all had failed.
I performed a test for him that I do for all new patients called autonomic
response testing (ART) and within two minutes I found out that his main problem
was oatmeal. It turned out he was eating oatmeal for breakfast every morning.
Within three days of stopping the oatmeal and doing the other diet
recommendations, his rash disappeared. These techniques are absolutely amazing.
How It Works
I really don't understand how this works, but I can offer some suggestions as to
speculated mechanisms. The technique's effectiveness seems to be related to
using energy reflex points, somewhat similar to acupressure, at specific body
sites to neutralize the energy imbalance in the body. There also seems to be a
profound normalization that rebalances the autonomic nervous system.
The autonomic nervous system is frequently referred to as the master regulator
of metabolism because in controls all the involuntary activities of the body,
all the functions of the body that are not under your conscious control.
This would include functions like your heart rate, digesting, breathing, tissue
repair and rebuilding, regulation of your body temperature, immune system and
countless other functions. Once the autonomic nervous system is rebalanced and
improved, many physical aspects of disease have a corresponding improvement.
Depression and Emotional Illness-Most Common Cause of Disease
In the late 1980s, it became very clear to me that depression and other
emotional wounding was the major reason why most people became sick. I can't
tell you how delighted I was when Prozac first came out.
I thought it was the magic bullet that would turn everyone's life around. This
is because I was still operating under the brain washing I had received in
medical school.
Well, we all know that truth eventually rises to the surface. Unfortunately, I
did not realize this truth until I had put between one and two thousand people
on this drug. I was one of the main users of Prozac, long before it became
popular in the media.
If you listen to my audiotapes, you will hear the story of how I eventually came
to understand the more basic tenets of natural medicine. But fortunately I did
wake up to the fact that antidepressants, while useful for some, are never the
long-term solution for these problems.
However, most natural medical doctors have no good tools to address these types
of problems. Oh yes, there are many approaches one can have to treat emotional
illness.
There are symptomatic band-aids such as natural herbs or supplements such as St.
John's wort, L-tryptophan or SAMe. These therapies are clearly safer than drugs,
and frequently as effective, but they do not reverse the short-circuiting that
resulted in the original symptoms.
Traditional Psychotherapy
When I started my initial energy medicine course work, it became very clear to
me that it had incredibly profound healing potential. I started to use some of
the techniques, but quickly realized that I would get into emotional wounding
issues that I did not feel comfortable in addressing. It became very clear to me
that the ideal professional for this work would be a competent psychotherapist.
Many of you may have had less than optimal experiences with therapists in the
past, as this is quite common. Like any professional, there are good ones and
bad. Like traditional medical physicians, most therapists are using simple
cognitive tools that are only symptomatically helpful and rarely address the
root causes of disease.
I am relatively prejudiced when it comes to traditional paradigms as I have seen
so many thousands of patients who have been wounded by traditional medicine.
They have removed millions of gallbladders that should not have been taken out,
and millions more of ear tubes that have been inserted when simple dietary
changes would have provided nearly instant relief in most all cases.
Many also do not know that the fourth leading cause of death in this country is
drugs that doctors legally prescribe. Trailing close behind that are accidental
deaths in the hospital.
Fortunately, traditional psychotherapists are not as dangerous as doctors and
generally do not cause harm. They frequently are able to help people feel
better. But in my experience they rarely provide a permanent resolution of the
unresolved psycho-emotional conflict and trauma that cause most chronic physical
health complaints by short-circuiting the energy system.
Emotional Wounding
Some of us believe that we can "grow out" of our emotional wounds. I am not so
certain. I once saw a 72 year-old woman who could not sleep at night for the
last 66 years because of nightmares.
When she was six years old she was several feet away from seeing a criminal
shoot the face off of her father's best friend. This trauma stuck with her for
66 years and no therapy had been able to resolve it.
This is a form of post-traumatic stress disorder and the muscle resistance
testing worked beautifully to resolve this problem in one visit.
Just like this 72 year-old woman, many of us have been wounded in life. If we
are stabbed with a physical knife we can see the wounds and sew them up. But if
someone uses an emotional knife to wound us, the wounds are not visible to the
naked eye; yet they frequently cause more damage by thoroughly disrupting the
energy circuitry in the body.
After working with this program for more than one year, I am convinced that it
is one of the most innovative, effective and exciting treatments currently
available to improve your health. I have been studying health and medicine for
over two decades and I have never seen results so consistently astounding.
Mechanics Of Psycho Emotional Treatments
The treatment sessions are 45 minutes long and generally once a week. There is
no contract that is signed and one can attend as many or as few sessions as one
sees fit. You determine when or if you want to return, preferably in
consultation with the therapist.
Some patients have only required one or two visits, while others, with more
deep-seated wounding, require longer treatment. However, you are always in
control and if you don't feel you are receiving benefit you can stop the
therapy.
I would also appreciate you letting me know of any problems or lack of
improvement you might have. The program seems to be consistently effective for
most all who are serious about improving their health and committed to change.
However, no system is perfect and I am always seeking ways to improve our
treatment.
Allergies
The therapy also works phenomenally well for allergy elimination. For over six
years, I performed a very sophisticated, yet effective, form of skin allergy
testing called provocation neutralization (PN). The technique generally improved
over 80% of our patients. This is in contrast to traditional allergy testing
which generally only works on about 25% of patients.
The only problem with the PN testing is that is was time consuming, costly and
involved needles. It was not unusual for a course of testing and treatment to
cost over $2,000. However, this was still a far better alternative for most of
our patients as their quality of life was so much improved, as their chronic
illness would get better.
The allergy practice was a very important part of the revenues for my practice.
But in January of 2000, I made the decision to stop the testing because in all
honesty I could not continue to offer something when I knew I had a better
alternative for people, even if meant losing practice income.
I have seen many miracles with the muscle resistance testing. One of our more
dramatic examples involved a patient who had been through our PN allergy testing
program with only minimal results. She had severe asthma and a life-threatening
allergy to latex.
Since she was studying to become a nurse, this presented a major problem in her
life, as she would frequently be exposed to latex and wind up in the emergency
room very close to death.
In one ten minute treatment, Jody, our main therapist, was able to clear her
allergy to latex and she could now be exposed to balloons and latex gloves and
be around rooms freshly painted with latex paint without having to run to the
emergency room. This treatment profoundly changed this nurse's life.
The Mechanics of Allergy Testing
Our main technique to eliminate and deal with allergies is called Total Body
Modification. The technique allows her to generally eliminate three allergens at
each visit.
It is advised to not start the work though until one's blood sugar metabolism
has been under control for two weeks. If you have been following the diet
recommended, this is usually not a problem.
There are generally 12 molds that can be treated, several types of dust, and
about half a dozen each of grasses, trees and weeds. One is also invited to
bring in samples of dust, molds, etc. from the living environment.
Food Allergies Can Also Be Eliminated.
We have had a fair number of patients who were chemically injured and could only
eat several foods without getting sick. The treatments were incredibly effective
at removing these allergies. You can bring the foods in to your session and can
be neutralize to those foods.
This is a far more sophisticated and effective technique than skin or blood
testing which only can diagnose the problem, but are in no way ever effective at
eliminating the problem. Additionally, they are generally costly and frequently
inaccurate.
The treatment for the allergies is generally permanent unless one develops
another unresolved psycho emotional conflict.
Our Therapists
I have four therapists who perform the muscle reflex testing. The chief
therapist is Jody who has taken all of the course work and who has been working
at our center since January of 1999.
Does This Really Work? It Seems Too Good To Be True. What is the Down Side?
I was very skeptical for many years, but seeing is believing which is why I am
so excited about this technique.
There are some concerns, but they relate more to the danger of the therapist
taking credit for the healing. These techniques are so profoundly effective that
some therapists fall into the temptation of letting the patient believe that
they are responsible for the healing.
Nothing could be further from the truth. The therapist merely serves to
facilitate the self-repair mechanisms that God has given each and every one of
us.
This is why care has been taken in selecting therapists who have a strong faith
and are committed Christians. They are grounded in the understanding that they
are merely making simple corrections in the body, which allow the normal healing
mechanisms that God has provided for all of us to settle in and take the body to
the next level of healing.

 
Muscle Testing

 

YOURSELF: I grab hold of my left thumb and little finger with my right thumb and
fingers trying to squeeze them toward each other while I resist. If the
statement I make is false, the left thumb and finger collapse toward each other.
Otherwise I can resist. 


OTHERS: Have them extend their strongest arm straight out to the side, palm
down. Have them make a positive statement. While they try to hold the arm up,
press down on their forearm with the fingers of one of your hands. The pressure
is firm and momentary, increasing to several pounds of force rapidly and then
releasing. If their arm goes down, the statement they made was false. (If you
have properly prepared them--see later in the lesson.) You can test with
statements like "my name is Bozo". Their arm should go down. "My name is (their
true name)" should have the result that the arms stays in place. 
 
After a weak test, test again saying "strong test", and it should hold.  
 
Back to Christ Mind--Buddha Body Homepage.

 
Kinesiology Testing
by Machaelle Small Wright
Kinesiology is another name for muscle testing. If you want to get information
from nature, all you have to do is ask simple yes/no questions that will give
you the information you seek. (By "simple," I mean questions that can have only
one answer, not two questions in one sentence, each requiring its own answer.)
Nature will project a "yes" or "no" into your electrical system and you will
then be able to discern the answer by kinesiology testing your electrical
system.
The kinesiology technique is a method to get directly in touch with the physical
body's electrical system, which corresponds to the central nervous system. I
recommend using kinesiology testing to work with flower essences. The technique
itself is based on a very simple principle: What enhances our body, mind and
soul makes us strong. Together our body, mind and soul create a wholistic
environment which, when balanced, is strong and solid. If something enters into
that environment which challenges the balance, the entire environment is
weakened. The state of strength or weakness is registered in the electrical
system, and through kinesiology combined with asking simple yes/no questions, we
can discover just what state we're in.
For those of you who have never heard of such a thing but would like to try it,
I am reprinting the information on developing kinesiology testing from the
Co-Creative Science.
A final note: Kinesiology is the method you will use with the Perelandra Garden
Workbooks, testing flower essences, and working with the Microbial Balancing
Program and MAP.

Kinesiology: Introduction
Kinesiology: The Tool for Testing
Kinesiology Self-Testing Steps
Another Testing Method
Kinesiology Tips
Troubleshooting Kinesiology
A Note on Clarity
Final Comments on Kinesiology
This information is an excerpt from the book 
Co-Creative Science by Machaelle Small Wright.

 
Kinesiology Self-Testing Steps
1. THE CIRCUIT FINGERS. If you are right-handed: Place your left hand palm up.
Connect the tip of your left thumb with the tip of the left little finger (not
your index finger). If you are left-handed: Place your right hand palm up.
Connect the tip of your right thumb with the tip of your right little finger. By
connecting your thumb and little finger, you have closed an electrical circuit
in your hand, and it is this circuit you will use for testing.
Before going on, look at the position you have just formed with your hand. If
your thumb is touching the tip of your index or first finger, laugh at yourself
for not being able to follow directions, and change the position to touch the
tip of the thumb with the tip of the little or fourth finger. Most likely this
will not feel at all comfortable to you. If you are feeling a weird sense of
awkwardness, you’ve got the first step of the test position! In time, the hand
and fingers will adjust to being put in this position and it will feel fine. 
    Circuit fingers can touch tip to tip, finger pad to finger pad, or thumb
resting on top of the little finger’s nail. Women with long nails need not
impale themselves.
2. THE TEST FINGERS. To test the circuit (the means by which you will apply
pressure to yourself), place the thumb and index finger of your other hand
inside the circle you have created by connecting your thumb and little finger.
The thumb and index finger should be right under your thumb and your little
finger, touching them. Don’t try to make a circle with your test fingers. They
are just placed inside the circuit fingers that do form a circle. It will look
as if the circuit fingers are resting on the test fingers.
3. POSITIVE RESPONSE. Keeping this position, ask yourself a yes/no question in
which you already know the answer to be yes. ("Is my name _____?") Once you’ve
asked the question, press your circuit fingers together, keeping the tip-to-tip
position. Using the same amount of pressure, try to pull apart the circuit
fingers with your test fingers. Press the lower thumb against the upper thumb,
and the lower index finger against the upper little finger.
The action of your test fingers will look like scissors separating as you apply
pressure to your circuit fingers. The motion of the test fingers is horizontal.
Don’t try to pull your test fingers vertically up through your circuit
fingers. This action sometimes works but it is not as reliable as the horizontal
scissors action.
The circuit position described in step 1 corresponds to the position you take
when you stick your arm out for the physician. The testing position in step 2 is
in place of the physician or other convenient arm pumper. After you ask the
yes/no question and you press your circuit fingers tip-to-tip, that is equal to
the doctor saying, "Resist my pressure." Your circuit fingers now correspond to
your outstretched, stiffened arm. Trying to pull apart those fingers with your
testing fingers is equal to the doctor pressing down on your arm.
If the answer to the question is positive (if your name is what you think it
is!), you will not be able to easily push apart the circuit fingers. The
electrical circuit will hold, your muscles will maintain their strength, and
your circuit fingers will not separate. You will feel the strength in that
circuit.
IMPORTANT: Be sure the amount of pressure holding the circuit fingers together
is equal to the amount of your testing fingers pressing against them. Also,
don’t use a pumping action in your test fingers when applying pressure to your
circuit fingers. Use an equal, steady and continuous pressure.
Play with this a bit. Ask a few more yes/no questions that have positive
answers. Now, I know it is going to seem that if you already know the answer to
be "yes," you are probably "throwing" the test. That’s reasonable, but for the
time being, until you get a feeling for what the positive response feels like,
you’re going to need to deliberately ask yourself questions with positive
answers.
While asking questions, if you are having trouble sensing the strength of the
circuit, apply a little more pressure. Or consider that you may be applying too
much pressure and pull back some. You don’t have to break or strain your
fingers for this; just use enough pressure to make them feel alive, connected
and alert.
4. NEGATIVE RESPONSE. Once you have a clear sense of the positive response, ask
yourself a question that has a negative answer. Again press your circuit fingers
together and, using equal pressure, press against the circuit fingers with the
test fingers. This time the electrical circuit will break and the circuit
fingers will weaken and separate. Because the electrical circuit is broken, the
muscles in the circuit fingers do not have the power to easily hold the fingers
together. In a positive state the electrical circuit holds, and the muscles have
the power to keep the two fingers together.
How much your circuit fingers separate depends on your personal style. Some
people’s fingers separate a lot. Other’s barely separate at all. Mine
separate about a quarter of an inch. Some people’s fingers won’t separate at
all, but they’ll definitely feel the fingers weaken when pressure is applied
during a "no" answer. Give yourself time and let your personal style develop
naturally.
Also, if you are having a little trouble feeling anything, do your testing with
your forearms resting in your lap. This way you won’t be using your muscles to
hold up your arms while trying to test.
Play with negative questions a bit, and then return to positive questions. Get a
good feeling for the strength between your circuit fingers when your electrical
system is balanced and the weakness when it is short-circuited or imbalanced.
You can even ask yourself (your own system) for a positive response and then,
after testing, ask for a negative response. ("Give me a positive response."
Test. "Give me a negative response." Test.) You will feel the positive strength
and the negative weakness. In the beginning, you may feel only a slight
difference between the two. With practice, that difference will become more
pronounced. For now, it is just a matter of trusting what you have learned—and
practicing.
Don’t forget the overall concept behind kinesiology. What enhances our body,
mind and soul makes us strong. Together, our body, mind and soul create an
environment that, when balanced, is strong and solid. If something enters that
environment and challenges the balance, the environment is weakened. That
strength or weakness first registers in the electrical system, and it can be
discerned through the muscle-testing technique—kinesiology.

Kinesiology: Introduction
Kinesiology: The Tool for Testing
Kinesiology Self-Testing Steps
Another Testing Method
Kinesiology Tips
Troubleshooting Kinesiology
A Note on Clarity
Final Comments on Kinesiology

 
Another Method of Kinesiology 
 
recommended by Machaelle Small Wright
There is a method of kinesiology that uses the pointing finger of your test hand
and your leg. If you have a physical impairment, this may be easier for you to
use.
Place the pointing finger of your test hand on top of the center of your thigh.
This finger should lay flat on the leg. Your other fingers may be in whatever
position is comfortable. Place the pointing finger of the other hand in a
face-up position under the first knuckle of the test finger. Make sure you are
using the knuckle section, not just the tip of the finger (the first knuckle of
each pointing finger should be in contact). The electrical circuit that you are
using runs down the center of the leg and you are connecting it with the circuit
in your finger. To test; ask the question, press your test finger down on the
leg, then try to lift up the finger of the test hand with the same amount of
pressure that you use to hold the finger down on your leg. If the circuit breaks
easily, the answer is negative, if the circuit holds and it is difficult to lift
the finger, the answer is positive. If you have any questions regarding this
method of kinesiology,
  please let us know (questions@...).

Kinesiology: Introduction
Kinesiology: The Tool for Testing
Kinesiology Self-Testing Steps
Another Testing Method
Kinesiology Tips
Troubleshooting Kinesiology
A Note on Clarity
Final Comments on Kinesiology

 
Kinesiology: The Tool for Testing
Kinesiology is simple. Anybody can do it because it uses your electrical system
and your muscles. If you are alive, you have these two things. I know that
sounds smart-mouthed of me, but I’ve learned that sometimes people refuse to
believe that anything can be so simple. So they create a mental block—only
"sensitive types" can do this, or only women can do it. It’s just not true.
Kinesiology happens to be one of those simple things in life just waiting around
to be learned and used by everyone.
I don’t mean to intimidate you, but small children can learn to do kinesiology
in about five minutes. It is mainly because it never occurred to them that they
couldn’t do it. If I tell them they have an electrical system, they don’t
argue with me about it—they just get on with the business of learning how to
do simple testing. Actually, I do mean to intimidate you. Your first big hurdle
will be whether or not you believe you have a viable electrical system that is
capable of being tested. Here’s a good test. Place a hand mirror under your
nose. If you see breath marks, you have a strong electrical system. (If you
don’t see breath marks, call your local emergency rescue squad—you’re in
trouble.) Now you can get on with learning how to use kinesiology!
If you’ve ever been to a chiropractor or holistic physician experienced in
muscle testing, you’ve experienced kinesiology. The doctor tells you to stick
out your arm and resist his pressure. It feels like he is trying to push your
arm down after he has told you not to let him do it. Everything is going fine,
and then all of a sudden he presses and your arm falls down like a floppy fish
no matter how hard you try to keep it up. That is using kinesiology.
Simply stated, the body has within it and surrounding it an electrical network
or grid. If anything impacts your electrical system that does not maintain or
enhance your health and your body’s balance, your muscles, when having
physical pressure applied, are unable to hold their strength. (Muscle power is
directly linked to the balance of the electrical system.) In other words, if
pressure is applied to an individual’s extended arm while his body’s
electrical system is being adversely affected, the muscles will weaken and the
arm will not be able to resist the pressure. The circuits of the electri-cal
system are overloaded or have short-circuited, causing a weakening of that
system. However, if pressure is applied while his electrical system is being
positively affected, the circuits remain strong, balanced and capable of fully
functioning throughout the body. The muscles will remain strong, the person will
easily resist and the arm
  will hold its position.
This electrical/muscular relationship is a natural part of the human system. It
is not mystical or magical. Kinesiology is the established method for reading
the body’s balance through the balance of the electrical system at any given
moment.
When working in a co-creative partnership, nature answers your yes/no questions
by projecting a positive energy or a negative energy—whichever is
appropriate—into the electrical circuit that you have created by your fingers
especially for the kinesiology testing. The "yes" or "no" that nature projects
registers in this one electrical connection and not throughout your entire
electrical system. The special connection created by your fingers allows you to
use the kinesiology technique without adversely impacting your electrical system
or your body’s balance. Only one circuit is being used, and this circuit is
artificially created by you for the testing and is not a part of the normal
function of the electrical system throughout your body. The answer you are able
to discern through the testing is from nature. It is not an answer that has been
concocted by you.
If you have ever experienced muscle testing, you probably participated in the
above-described, two-person operation. You provided the extended arm, and the
other person provided the pressure. Although efficient, this can sometimes be
cumbersome when you want to test something on your own. Arm pumpers have the
nasty habit of disappearing right when you need them most. So you will be
learning to self-test—no arm pumpers needed.

Kinesiology: Introduction
Kinesiology: The Tool for Testing
Kinesiology Self-Testing Steps
Another Testing Method
Kinesiology Tips
Troubleshooting Kinesiology
A Note on Clarity
Final Comments on Kinesiology

 
Kinesiology Tips
If you are having trouble feeling a positive and negative response in the
circuit fingers, try switching hands—the circuit fingers become the test
fingers and vice versa. Most people who are right-handed have this particular
electrical circuitry that is used in kinesiology in their left hand.
Left-handers generally have the circuitry in their right hand. But sometimes a
right-hander has the circuitry in the right hand and a left-hander has it in the
left hand. You may be one of those people. If you are ambidextrous, choose the
circuit hand that gives you the clearest responses. Before deciding which to
use, give yourself a couple of weeks of testing using one hand as the circuit
hand to get a good feel for its responses before trying the other hand.
If you have an injury such as a muscle sprain in either hand or arm, don’t try
to learn kinesiology until you have healed. Kinesiology is muscle testing, and a
muscle injury will interfere with the testing—and the testing will interfere
with the healing of the muscle injury.
Also, when first learning kinesiology, do yourself a favor and set aside some
quiet time to go through the instructions and play with the testing. Trying to
learn this while riding the New York subway during evening rush hour isn’t
going to give you the break you need. But once you have learned it, you will be
able to test all kinds of things while riding the subway.
Sometimes I meet people who are trying to learn kinesiology and are not having
much luck. They have gotten frustrated, decided this isn’t for them, and have
gone on to try to learn another means of testing. Well, I’ll listen to them
explain what they did, and before they know it, I’ve verbally tricked them
with a couple of suggestions about their testing, which they try, and they begin
feeling kinesiology for the first time—a strong "yes" and a clear "no." The
problem wasn’t kinesiology. Everyone, as I have said, has an electrical
system. The problem was that they wanted to learn it so much that they became
overly anxious and tense—they blocked.
So, since you won’t have me around to trick you, I suggest that if you suspect
you’re blocking, turn your focus for several days, even a couple of weeks, to
something completely different. Then trick yourself. When you care the least
about whether or not you learn kinesiology, start playing with it again.
Approach it as if it were a game. Then you’ll feel the strength and weakness
in the fingers.
If you’re still not getting a satisfactory "yes" and "no" after several weeks
of trying, ask nature to help you learn and develop kinesiology. In fact, it can
help you unjam the logs around this issue. Simply direct your focus to nature
(nature intelligence) and state that you would like it to help you learn to do
kinesiology testing. Also state that you would like to feel a clear positive and
negative response in your testing. Then walk away from trying to test for the
rest of the day and return to it in a day or two. Read the kinesiology steps
again and practice the testing. This time, pay attention to any intuitive "hits"
you might receive about the testing and play with the information. Now you’ll
have success with feeling "yes" and "no."

Kinesiology: Introduction
Kinesiology: The Tool for Testing
Kinesiology Self-Testing Steps
Another Testing Method
Kinesiology Tips
Troubleshooting Kinesiology
A Note on Clarity
Final Comments on Kinesiology

 
Troubleshooting Kinesiology
Suppose the testing has been working fine, and then suddenly you can’t get a
clear result (what I call a "definite maybe") or get no result at all. Check the
following:
1. SLOPPY TESTING. You press apart the fingers before applying pressure between
the circuit fingers. This happens most often when we have been testing for
awhile and become over-confident or do the testing too quickly. I think it
happens to all of us from time to time and serves to remind us to keep our
attention on the matter at hand. (Excuse the pun.) 
    Especially in the beginning, start a kinesiology session by "warming
up"—that is, feel a few positive and negative responses. Ask yourself some of
those obvious questions. Or simply say several times, "Let me feel a positive."
(Test.) "Let me feel a negative." (Test.) This warm-up will remind you what
positive and negative responses feel like before you start.
2. EXTERNAL DISTRACTIONS. Trying to test in a noisy or active area can cause you
to lose concentration. The testing will feel unsure or contradict itself if you
double-check the results. Often, simply moving to a quiet, calm spot and
concentrating on what you are doing will be just what’s needed for successful
testing.
3. FOCUS OR CONCENTRATION. Even in a quiet spot, one’s mind may wander and the
testing will feel fuzzy, weak or contradictory. It is important to concentrate
throughout the process. Check how you are feeling. If you’re tired, I suggest
you not try to test until you have rested a bit. And if you have to go to the
bathroom, do it. That little situation is a sure concentration-destroyer.
4. THE QUESTION ISN'T CLEAR. A key to kinesiology is asking a simple yes/no
question, not two questions in one, each having a possible yes/no answer. If
your testing isn’t working, first check your hand positions. Next, review your
question, and make sure you are asking only one question. And, while you’re
asking a question, don’t think ahead to the next question! Your fingers
won’t know which to answer.
5. WATCH YOUR INTENT WITH HOW YOU WORD THE QUESTION. If you are prone to saying,
"Oh, I didn’t mean to say that!" when you talk to others, this might be an
area you need to work on. 
    A woman at one of our workshops asked me about some strange answers she had
gotten about what to feed her cat. She had asked, "What kinds of food would make
my cat happy?" She got some pretty weird answers like chocolate, catnip, steak.
. . . I pointed out that she probably asked the wrong question. She meant to ask
nature what foods would make her cat healthy. She was a little surprised. She
thought that this was the question she had originally asked. In short, her
question and her intent did not match.
6. YOU MUST WANT TO ACCEPT THE RESULTS OF THE TEST. If you enter a kinesiology
test not wanting to "hear" the answer, for whatever reason, you can override the
test with your emotions and your will. This is true for conventional situations
as well. If you really don’t want something to work for you, it won’t work.
That’s our personal power dictating the outcome. 
    Also, if you are trying to do testing during a situation that is especially
emotional for you, that deeply stirs your emotions, or if you are trying to ask
a question in which you have a strong, personal investment in the answer, I
suggest that you not test until you are calmer or get some emotional distance
from the situation. During such times, you are walking a very fine line between
a clear test and a test that your desires are overriding. Kinesiology as a tool
is not the issue here. It is the condition or intent of the tester.
7. CONTRADICTORY RESULTS. If your testing has been going along just fine and you
suddenly begin to get contradictory or "mushy" test results, consider that this
may not be a good day for you to do this particular work. Or you may need to
drink water. If you are dehydrated, your electrical system will feel weak during
kinesiology testing.

Kinesiology: Introduction
Kinesiology: The Tool for Testing
Kinesiology Self-Testing Steps
Another Testing Method
Kinesiology Tips
Troubleshooting Kinesiology
A Note on Clarity
Final Comments on Kinesiology

 
Kinesiology: A Note on Clarity
If you are having difficulty wording a simple yes/no question, consider this an
important issue to be faced and something worth spending time to rectify. You
have not simply stumbled upon a glitch in your quest to use kinesiology. You
have also stumbled upon a glitch in the communication between you and nature.
This is not as serious a situation with non-scientists because they have all the
steps and procedures to the processes already set for them and they need only do
simple testing with nature. But, even as a non-scientist working with
co-creative science, you will need to know how to ask some questions. However,
for the co-creative scientist, this is a critical situation. You must be able to
ask clear and concise questions. You must also develop a good flexibility around
questions if you wish to work with nature well. If you can’t even clearly
phrase the question, you can’t expect an answer. I have met people who cannot
articulate a
  question. In a workshop they will attempt to ask me something and I can’t
figure out what they are asking—nor can anyone else in the workshop. Usually
it turns out that they are frustrated because they can’t get any clarity in
their own life and are trying to ask me what to do about it.
For those of you who find yourselves in this boat, you have a terrific
opportunity to turn that around and develop internal order by learning how to
articulate a simple yes/no question. If you do this, you not only develop the
tool of kinesiology, you also develop clarity for communicating with
nature—and everyone else around you.
If you need to develop yourself in this area, I recommend that you initially
devote your attention to learning to ask simple questions and not worry about
receiving answers. When you need to ask someone a question, take time to
consider what you really want to ask and how it can be most clearly and
efficiently worded. It helps to write down the question. In this way, you can
visually see your words. If they don’t convey what you want to express, play
with the wording. Keep doing this until you feel those words accurately and
concisely communicate what you wish to ask. Then go to that person and ask the
question. Notice the difference in the quality of how the person answers you.
Your clarity will inspire similar clarity in the response.
Quite often, that frustrating inner confusion we experience exists because we
have not had an acceptable framework for the development of mental ordering.
Learning to ask questions gives the mind something tangible to work with and, in
the process, you learn mind-word-and-mouth coordination. You’ll find that as
you develop the ability to clearly articulate a simple question, your inner fog
will begin to lift, which in turn will automatically begin to lift your outer
fog. Another point: It also will be helpful to focus on your ability to ask
simple questions so that you will know how to troubleshoot a question you have
asked nature but for which you can’t get a clear answer. You’ll know where
your weaknesses in this area are and you’ll be able to review the question to
check for a problem.
As you develop internal order, your intuition will become clearer and stronger.
You will see that when you ask a simple yes/no question, you will intuitively
sense the answer or begin to "hear" nature answer before testing. This is a
normal development. I recommend that you continue with the kinesiology testing
as a verification that your intuitive or "overheard" answer is correct.
It is also helpful, especially in the beginning, to literally verbalize your
questions out loud and not just think them. When we say something aloud, we tend
to articulate it better than when we just think it. And I will ask something out
loud if I’m a little tired and I need some extra sensory input (sound) to help
me keep my focus.

Kinesiology: Introduction
Kinesiology: The Tool for Testing
Kinesiology Self-Testing Steps
Another Testing Method
Kinesiology Tips
Troubleshooting Kinesiology
A Note on Clarity
Final Comments on Kinesiology

 
Final Comments on Kinesiology
Kinesiology is like any tool. The more you practice, the better you become at
using it. You need a sense of confidence about using this tool, especially when
you get some very strange answers to what you thought were pretty straight
questions. It helps you get over the initial
"this-is-weird-and-the-damned-testing-isn’t-working" stage if you have some
confidence in your ability to feel clear positive and negative responses. The
only way I know to get over this hump is to practice testing. It is impossible
to mentally reason yourself over the hump. Through practice you will develop
clarity in your testing, you’ll learn your personal pitfalls and you will
fine-tune your technique.
In teaching kinesiology, I have found that something interesting happens to some
people when they are learning it. Every block, doubt, question, concern and
personal challenge they have, when faced head-on with something perceived as
unconventional, comes right to the surface. It is as if the physical tool of
kinesiology itself serves to bring to the surface all those hurdles. So they
learn kinesiology right away and are using it well. Then, all of a sudden it is
not working for them. When they tell me about it, I realize that the thing they
do differently now that they didn’t do at first is double-checking their
answers—and rechecking, and rechecking, and doing it again, and again. . . .
Each time the answers vary or the fingers get mushy and they get definite
maybe’s.
Well, again the issue is not the kinesiology. The issue is really why they are
suddenly doing all this rechecking business. What has surfaced for them are
questions around trust in their own ability, belief that such unconventional
things really do happen and are happening to them. They have a sudden lack of
self-confidence.
Again, the only way I know to get over this hurdle is to defy it—keep testing.
Keep doing the co-creative processes. They all require testing and you will be
able to observe the positive results. The successful results, in turn, give you
confidence about your testing ability. The other alternative is to succumb and
stop developing kinesiology. But that doesn’t really accomplish anything. So
in cases like this, I suggest the person keep testing, stop double-checking and
take the plunge to go with the first test result. Eventually, what action is
taken based on the first test result will verify the accuracy of the test. As
I’ve said, from this, your confidence builds. I firmly believe that only clear
personal experience and evidence can get us through these kinds of blocks and
hurdles—and that means just continuing to go on.
As I have worked through the years to refine my ability to use kinesiology,
nature has provided many occasions when I have had to follow through on answers
that made no sense at all to me. Doing this and looking at the results with a
critical eye is the only way I know to learn about ourselves as kinesiology
testers and to discover the different nuances and uses of kinesiology itself.
One last piece of information: Give yourself about a year to develop a strong
confidence with kinesiology. Now, you’ll be able to use it right away. This
just takes sticking with your initial efforts until you get those first feelings
of positive strength and negative weakness in the circuit fingers. But I have
found from my experience and from watching others that it takes about a year of
experimentation to fully learn the art of asking accurate yes/no questions and
to overcome the hurdles. As one woman said, "You stick with this stuff a year,
and boy, what a great thing you end up with!"

 

Scientific Validation of the Mind/Body Paradigm and Muscle Testing
This breakthrough study is a milestone in the ongoing scientific validation of
the emerging mind/body paradigm. The mind/body paradigm holds that the mind and
body are inseparable and that what you do to one always affects the other.
Published in the prestigious journal, Perceptual and Motor Skills, it
demonstrates the validity of using the muscular system as a window on the
functioning of the nervous system.
Doctors on the cutting edge of alternative natural therapies are using the
muscle test as a real-time indicator of altered physiological function. This
highly significant study measures the effect of cognitive factors on muscle
strength and demonstrates the validity of the muscle test.
research was made possible by The ONE Foundation and supported by the generous
donations of many doctors, important organizational sponsors and the generous
gifts of time and expertise by those involved in conducting and analyzing the
study.
Muscle Test Comparisons of Congruent and Incongruent Self-Referential Statements
Authors
Daniel A. Monti, Jefferson Medical College; John Sinnott, Horsham, Pennsylvania;
Marc Marchese, King's College; Elisabeth J. S. Kunkel, Jefferson Medical
College; Jeffrey M. Greeson, Thomas Jefferson University.
Summary -- This study investigated differences in values of manual muscle tests
after exposure to congruent and incongruent semantic stimuli. Muscle testing
with a computerized dynamometer was performed on the deltoid muscle group of 89
healthy college students after repetitions of congruent (true) and incongruent
(false) self-referential statements. The order in which statements were repeated
was controlled by a counterbalanced design. The combined data showed that
approximately 17% more total force over a longer period of time could be endured
when subjects repeated semantically congruent statements (p < .001). Order
effects were not significant. Overall, significant differences were found in
muscle test responses between congruent and incongruent semantic stimuli.
Applied kinesiologists have long employed the use of the manual muscle test as
an indicator of altered physiological function (Goodheart, 1964; Leisman,
Zenhausern, Ferentz, Tefera, & Zemcov, 1995). The premise is that a given muscle
will be less able to resist outside force when there is some alteration in
nervous system function (Walther, 1988). In such a situation, the muscle
"breaks," i.e., can no longer sustain the outside force, sooner than if there is
no alteration in nervous system function. We will refer to this reaction as
muscle "give-way." When performing manual muscle testing, a particular muscle or
muscle group is first isolated, then an external force is applied to take the
muscle from an isometric to an eccentric contraction (Lawson & Calderon, 1997).
The muscle test is subsequently said to be "weak" or "strong" based upon the
muscle's ability to resist an external applied force over time.
Walker (1992) proposed that the muscle test responds to cognitive and emotional
stimuli. Although there has been no objective investigation of the muscle test
for such stimuli, the concept that motoric function is affected by cognitive and
emotional factors has been suggested by others as well. For example, performance
in sports activities is known to be influenced by affective and cognitive states
such as anxiety and self-doubt (Burton, 1988, Gould, Jackson, & Finch, 1993).
Emotional stimulation also can cause specific spinal reflex activation (Bonnet,
Bradley, Lang, & Requin, 1995). Recently, De Melo and Laurent (1996) reported
that the specific components of movement kinematics (movement amplitude,
duration, velocity, and acceleration) are influenced by affective state,
remarking that this is an under investigated topic. It should be noted that
cognitions and emotions (affects) are not always well-differentiated in the
literature, which may be due to
  how closely the two are linked.
Walker (1996) has formulated a clinical treatment protocol that involves using a
manual muscle test to identify cognitive and emotional information that may
negatively affect patients' well-being. This protocol was used by Peterson
(1997) with phobic patients, resulting in decreased intensity of phobic
symptoms; however, this investigation did not specifically study the muscle test
itself.
The purpose of the present study was to examine whether opposing cognitive
stimuli modulate the muscle test. Congruent (what is known to be true) and
incongruent (what is known to be false) self-referential statements were used.
The study design was intended to minimize any possible subject or examiner bias.
A computerized dynamometer was used for muscle testing. The hypothesis was that
congruent and incongruent statements would yield significantly different values
for total force and time required to reach muscle give-way.
Method
Subjects
A total of 89 right-handed undergraduate students (61 women and 28 men)
participated in this study for course credit in an introductory psychology
class. Their ages ranged from 18 to 24 years. Subjects were excluded if they
were not American citizens, reported being left-handed, had significant shoulder
dysfunction or prior experience with muscle testing.
Apparatus
Muscle testing was performed using a PowerTrack II dynamometer with Tracker
software from JTech Medical Industries. The basic technical set-up may be
described as follows: (1) The dynamometer's transducer was connected to a
NEC/Versa computer. (2) The transducer registered total force (examiner pressure
and subject resistance combined) and time to muscle give-way. (3) This
information was immediately recorded by the computer software, creating graphs
of real-time and force.
Using such an apparatus indirectly controls for examiner bias, especially if the
muscle is tested to give-way while the subject is resisting to the best of his
ability. For example, if an examiner used less force in a situation when he did
not want the subject to demonstrate muscle failure that would otherwise occur,
it would be reflected in the dynamometer's reading of total force; total force
would be lower. Total force is the combined value of pressure applied by the
examiner (examiner force) plus resistance offered by the subject (subject
force). So, in this example, even though the muscle does not give way as
quickly, there is a lower value for total force because examiner's force is
decreased, and, as subject's force cannot exceed the examiner's, the subject's
force also is lower. Therefore, there are three ways to demonstrate enhanced
muscle resistance in one condition over another: (a) total force is
significantly increased with time to muscle
  give-way being relatively equal, (b) time to muscle give-way is significantly
increased with total force being relatively equal, and (c) both variables of
total force and time to muscle give-way are significantly increased.
Also, total force rates, i.e., force applied plus force resisted or time to
give-way, are calculated from the computer-generated graphs. If the subject is
resisting the examiner's force from the beginning of the trial, then the force
rate most closely reflects the rate of pressure applied by the examiner. For
example, if the examiner applies a large amount of pressure to overcome a muscle
quickly to demonstrate less resistance than ordinarily present, it would be
reflected by an increased force rate. Therefore, force rates need to be
consistent across trials to demonstrate differences in resistance.
dynamometer is a more practical and relevant apparatus to control examiner's
force than using a steady load against the patient's muscle because (a) pressure
needs to be applied incrementally, until muscle failure or give-way occurs and
(b) it would be difficult to impossible to know what load weight to use in
different subjects with varying muscle strength, especially when the presumption
is that a different amount of force is required in different test situations
within subjects. For example, using too small a weight for a particular subject
might result in no muscle give-way, regardless of the test condition.
Conversely, using too large a weight for a particular subject's muscle strength
could result in overpowering the tested muscle, regardless of the test
condition. Moreover, there is demonstrated reliability of muscle strength
measurements using hand-held dynamometry (Bohannon, 1997a, 1997b).
Procedure
Ninety-five subjects completed an informed consent form and baseline survey
which included questions about medical problems, shoulder dysfunction (the test
utilizes the anterior deltoid muscle), and previous experience with muscle
testing and nationality. Handedness was measured using a reliable, global
question developed by Coren (1993). One of the subjects reported an old injury
that was no longer bothering him; he felt comfortable with participating and was
permitted to do so. Five potential subjects were excluded because they were
left-handed, and another was excluded because she was no an American citizen
(see below).
To isolate the deltoid muscle group, subjects raised one arm to a 90º angle,
perpendicular to the front of the body, keeping the elbow straight. The
transducer, which was held by the tester, was placed and centered (to allow for
a consistent vector) just above the subject's wrist. The tester's other hand was
placed on the subject's contralateral shoulder to stabilize the upper body.
Subjects were carefully positioned such that the torso was as straight as
possible, shoulders were level, and extended arm was level with shoulders.
Subjects' arm position was calibrated between trials by an experienced
musculoskeletal clinician who was blind to statement sequences. This clinician
also checked the body position of the person performing the muscle testing, to
ensure consistency of force vectors. Muscle testing was performed by a physician
who had over six years of kinesiologic muscle testing experience. Subjects were
seated comfortably, and it was explained
  that pressure would be applied to the extended arm each time a statement was
repeated and that they should resist the pressure as much as possible, i.e.,
prevent the arm from going down. Subjects were assured that there were no
"right" or "wrong" responses. A practice trial was performed without a test
statement to familiarize subjects with the mechanics of the muscle test.
Immediately after subjects repeated out load one of the self-referential
statements, they would be instructed to push up against the examiner to initiate
an isometric contraction. The examiner would then incrementally apply pressure,
taking the subject to an eccentric contraction until give-way was achieved. The
same instructions were read to all subjects, and examiners did not know the
total force and time values from the dynamometer until all trials were
completed. There is high reliability when the muscle test is performed in this
manner (Hsieh & Phillips, 1990).
Four self-referential statements were used in the study, two true and two false:

My name is ___________ (Subject's "real" name or preferred nickname).
My name is ___________ (If subject was a male "Alice" was used. If female,
"Ralph" was used)
I am an American citizen.
I am a Russian citizen.
A counterbalanced design was used to control for order effects. We were
concerned with order effects for two reasons. (a) It was conceivable that a
different effect might occur if subjects were exposed to a true statement, then
a false one as compared to a false statement, then a true one. Also, (b) it was
conceivable that, if we tested subjects on only one arm, fatigue might influence
the data over four trials. To address these issues, subjects were assigned to
one of two conditions. (1) Subjects were exposed first to a true statement, then
a false statement, another false statement, and lastly another true statement
(TFFT) or (2) subjects were exposed first to a false statement, then two true
statements, and lastly a false statement (FTTF). Subjects were randomly assigned
to each condition in similar proportions (TFFT = 51.1%, FTTF = 48.9%). Male to
female subject ratios were also similar in each condition. To minimize fatigue,
only two statements were
  tested on each arm. For consistency, the right arm always was tested for the
first two statements, and the left arm always was used for the second two. There
was a 1-minute rest between statements. By employing this process, both true and
false statements occurred an equal percentage of the time in each of the four
test positions. Moreover, the four trials per subject also allowed for
counterbalancing within subjects. All subjects were exposed to both a true
statement, then a false statement as well as a false statement, then a true
statement.
After testing was completed, subjects were debriefed using the following
questions: (a) What do you think the purpose of this study was?, (b) What
results do you think we expected?, (c) Did you notice a difference in your
ability to resist pressure after repeating the different statements? If so, was
that surprising to you?
Results
Time and Force by Trials
Table 1 provides descriptive analyses of the trials. Means, standard deviations,
and ranges for each trial are indicated. For example, the first row in this
table (false-first time) would be interpreted as "On average, subjects displayed
muscle tension for 1.09 sec., with a standard deviation of 40 sec., the first
time they were exposed to a false statement.
A major concern in this study was order effects, which prompted the
counterbalanced order of statements. To determine whether the order of the
different statement sequences of both test conditions (TFFT and FTTF) affected
time to muscle give-way an analysis of variance was performed. An alpha level of
.05 was used to classify all findings as either significant or nonsignificant.
The analysis showed that order (TFFT or FTTF) did not significantly account for
the variance in time to muscle give-way (F1.87 = 1.63, ns). An analysis of
variance was also performed to assess the influence of order on total force. As
in the first analysis, the results were nonsignificant (F1.87 = 0.25, ns).
Moreover, force-rates were compared for true and false statements (as measured
from start to muscle failure). No significant differences were found between the
two conditions (t68 = 1.93, ns). Overall, these findings clearly suggest that
the order of the test conditions did
  not significantly influence the results.
Self-referential Statements
The primary question of this investigation was "Does the congruence of verbal
statements affect the muscle test?" As seen in Table 2, congruent (true)
self-referential statements were associated with significantly higher scores on
measures of both time and total force as compared to incongruent (false)
statements. Similarly, when data was combined within subjects, there was a 58.9%
longer time to muscle give-way with a 17.2% higher total force when responding
to true statements (p < ,001) in either arm. In addition, the effect sizes
reported in Table 2 ranged from .57 to .86. This phenomenon is illustrated in
Fig. 1.

 
(Above) Figure 1. Typical profile of subject performance during muscle testing
for true versus false self-referential statements.
Debriefing Questions
The debriefing questions were analyzed and provided additional information on
subjects' expectation bias. Data were missing for three subjects. Of the
remaining 86 subjects, 60 (70%) reported that the purpose of the experiment was
to study something in muscle or body physiology, which is what subjects were
told prior to participation. Twenty-two individuals (26%) stated that they did
not know or had no idea, and four thought there was some hidden agenda. When
asked what results they thought we were expecting, 44 subjects (51%) responded
that they thought we were looking at physiological functions of some sort but
stated nothing about differences in muscle strength. Thirty-one (36%) stated
that they did not know or had no idea about our expected results. Eleven (13%)
stated in some form the hypothesis of our study; nine of those 11 felt they
arrived at the hypothesis after noticing the differences in their ability to
resist pressure. The last question
  asked subjects if they noticed any differences in their ability to resist
applied pressure with respect to any of the questions. Only 15 subjects (17%)
were aware of differences in the muscle test, and all were surprised by this.
Responses of Men and Women
Lastly, sex differences were explored. On average as expected, the men had
statistically significantly higher scores than women on both the time and force
variables for all trials (p <.05).
Discussion
Muscle testing following congruent and incongruent self-referential statements
indicated that muscle give-way was associated with a total force peak that was
approximately 17%, higher, over a 59% longer period of time following
semantically congruent (true) statements (see Fig. 1). The order of statements
did not significantly influence responding. The present data suggest that
cognitive discrepancies can affect the muscle test.
Examiner bias was controlled by the function of the muscle-testing apparatus.
Specifically, if the examiner was biased toward demonstrating a stronger muscle
test for a particular type of statement and thereby delivered a lower pressure
to increase the time to muscle give-way, the result would be a lower value of
total force, which would not support the examiner's bias for a stronger muscle
test. Conversely, if the examiner attempted to use a significantly greater
pressure to increase the total force value, the time to muscle give-way would
likely be significantly decreased, essentially countering the bias. In or group,
both total force and time were increased overall with the congruent statements
(see Fig. 1). No significant differences were found in comparing the force rates
of congruent and incongruent statements.
It is unlikely that subjects' bias significantly affected responding. Only
subjects who were naive to muscle testing participated, and they were instructed
that there were no "right" or "wrong" responses to the statements. Moreover post
test debriefing indicated that very few subjects were aware of what was actually
being tested or of what was expected.
It is possible that the results of the muscle testing reflect the subjects'
autonomic reactions to making statements that are congruent or incongruent.
Autonomic reactivity to such stimuli is extensively documented in the literature
on biofeedback (Levenson, Ekman, & Friesen, 1990; Cacioppo, Uchino, Crites,
Snydersmith, Smith, Berntsen, & Lang, 1992) and polygraph testing (Pennebaker,
Hughes, & O'Heeron, 1987; Bradley & Cullen, 1993). In recent years, studies
using electromyography have indicated changes in electrical activity in muscles
when subjects are presented with physiologically arousing emotional stimuli
(Bradley, Cuthbert, & Lang, 1996). Also, the presentation of consonant and
dissonant stimuli can affect task performance (sometimes referred to as "Stroop"
performance), which is associated with measurable autonomic changes (Renaud &
Blondin, 1997).
It is possible that the results are related to the changes in brain activity
when congruent and incongruent statements are uttered. For example, true and
false self-referential statements similar to those used in our study design were
evaluated with electroencephalogram (EEG) by Fischler, Achariyapaopan, and Perry
(1985) who found a discrete measurable change in the ongoing EEG signal,
following the repetition of false statements. This EEG signal change (called an
N400) was not present with true statements. It is not known what neural pathways
are affected when an N400 occurs. One possibility is that limbic projections to
the motor cortex are affected, which is the proposed mechanism for some of the
physiological reactions seen in biofeedback (Basmajian, 1989). Clearly, further
research is required to elucidate the possible neuroanatomical and biochemical
precesses involved in the muscle test responses observed. As mentioned
previously, there have been
  reports of clinical interventions which use the manual muscle test to assess
patients' congruency of cognitive and emotional stimuli (Walker, 1996; Peterson,
1997). However, there had been no objective evaluation of the muscle test for
that purpose. The results of the present study suggest that the muscle test
responds to the congruency of self-referential statements. Potential clinical
applications of this observation will require further investigation.
References

Basmajian, J. V. (1989) Biofeedback, principles and practice for clinicians.
(3rd ed.) Baltimore, MD; Williams & Wilkins.
Bohannon, R. (1997a) Internal consistency of manual muscle testing scores.
Perceptual and Motor Skills, 85, 736-738.
Bohannon, R. (1997b) Reference values for extremity muscle strength obtained by
hand-held dynamometry from adults ages 20 to 70. Archives of Physical Medicine
and Rehabilitation, 78, 26-32.
Bonnet, M., Bradley, M. M., Lang, P. J., & Requin, J. (1995) Modulation of
spinal reflexes; arousal, pleasure, action. Psychophysiology, 32, 367-372.
Bradley, M. M., Cuthbert, B. N., & Lang, P. J. (1996) Picture media and
emotions; effects of a sustained affective context. Psychophysiology, 33,
662-670.
Bradley, M. T., & Cullen, M. C. (1993) Polygraph lie detection on real events in
a laboratory setting. Perceptual and Motor Skills, 76, 1051-1058. Burton, D.
(1988) Do anxious swimmers swim slower? Reexamining the elusive
anxiety-performance relationship. Journal of Sport and Exercise Psychology, 10,
45-61.
Cacioppo, J. T., Uching, B. N., Crites, S. L., Snydersmith, M. A., Smith, G.,
Berntsen, G. G. & Lang, P. J. (1992) Relationship between facial expressiveness
and sympathetic activation in emotion: a critical review, with emphasis on
modeling underlying mechanisms and individual differences. Journal of
Personality and Social Psychology, 62, 110-128.
Coren, S. (1993) Measurement of handedness via self-report; the relationship
between brief and extended inventories. Perceptual and Motor Skills, 76,
1035-1042.
De Melo, F., & Laurent, M. (1996) Effects of competitive activation on precision
movement control. Perceptual and Motor Skills, 83, 1203-1208.
Fischler, I., Achariyapaopan, T., & Perry, N. W. (1985) Brain potentials during
sentence verification; automatic aspects of comprehension. Biological
Psychology, 21, 83-106.
Goodheart, G. (1964) Applied Kinesiology, Detroit, MI; Private Printing.
Gould, D., Jackson, S., & Finch, L. (1993) Sources of stress in national figure
skaters. Journal of Sport and Exercise Psychology, 15, 134-159.
Hsieh, C-Y., & Phillips, R. B. (1990) Reliability of manual muscle testing with
a computerized dynamometer. Journal of Manipulation and Physiological
Therapeutics, 13, 72-82.

 
HOW TO MUSCLE TEST YOUR TRUTH
1. Take a moment, before muscle testing, to ground. Connect firmly into the
center of the Earth while seated or standing with
both feet flat on the ground. Imagine a cord from both feet and your tailbone
anchored into the aurora, the sun in the center
of the Earth. Now expand the cord from the tailbone to be a six-foot tree trunk
that you are in the middle of.
2. Ask I, Earth Mother, to anchor for you. Ask my Marias, or my Guardian Angles,
to surround you.
3. Intend to flush out of your immediate field all nonresonant or discordant
frequencies, entities and cords. As the personality
to step aside so that you can hear clear guidance. Imagine a beautiful pale
green and blue frequency filling your field and
pushing everything else down to the center of the Earth for transmutation.
4. Now, intend to be properly polarized. Polarization is related to running the
proper frequencies for your gender. If you are a
male, you should be running masculine frequencies. If you are a female, you
should be running feminine frequencies. As you
run the correct frequencies for your gender, you will properly polarize. Reverse
polarization means that you will get the
opposing answer (a 'no' when the answer is 'yes', and a 'yes' when the answer is
'no').
5. If you discover do not have the appropriate frequencies available for your
gender, ask my Marias to work with you and add
these frequencies to your field. Note: those that have difficulties running
appropriate gender based frequencies may have
unconscious patterns to be addressed surrounding the dislike or fear of one's
own gender. Intend to release all such
patterning just before you go to sleep at night.
6. Turn on the kundahlini energy system and allow it to flow up the spine. See
the exercise for running the kundahlini in the
article 'Supporting the Form in Ascension' for more information. Take your hand
and move it slowly up the front of your body
passing through each chakra, beginning at the base of the spine and ending above
the top of the head to insure that the
energy is moving up the spine.
7. Place your fingers on each hand into a circle by connecting your thumb and
third or middle fingers. Now place your fingers
inside of one another like an interlocking chain.
8. Now, ask the question, 'Is my name (insert your name here)?' Now, while
pressing all fingers firmly together, try and pull
the interlocking rings apart. If you cannot pull them apart, this is a strong
muscular response, which is considered a 'yes'
answer.
9. Now, ask the question, 'Is my name (insert another name other than your
own)?' Again, while pressing all fingers firmly
together, try and pull the interlocking rings apart. If you can pull them apart,
this is a weak muscular response, which is
considered a 'no' as an answer.
10. You should have a 'yes' response to your name, and a no response to a name
other than your own. If you are getting
conflicting messages, go back and repeat steps 1 through 9, and try again. Each
human is different and it may take some
practice to know when the response is a 'yes', and when it is a 'no'.
11. Once you are getting the correct response or a 'yes' for your name and 'no'
for not your name, you are ready to ask any
other question that you wish to know, or what your truth is in a particular
circumstance. You are also ready to crosscheck any
guidance that you hear telepathically.
Be careful how you phrase your questions however, for if such questions are not
thorough in the asking, you may receive a
yes to a particular question that may be a no at in present time. An example of
this may be the question 'Do I need to buy a
new car?' The answer may be yes. However, if you rephrase the questions to be
'Do I need to buy a new car at this time?'
The answer may be no. Such a question will be yes or no based upon monitory flow
that your body knows that will or will not
be coming in long before you do in the physical.
So how does the body understand the future when one seemingly doesn't know what
is to occur next? Well, the body
experiences the future upon many dimensions before it steps down into form. In
essence, the body experiences today 8
times over a many month or year time span as today steps down into physicality
upon 8 separate dimensions surrounding
Earth. As such, it is no surprise to the body when one loses their job, or a
mate leaves, or if one dies. The body has already
experienced such a thing 8 times before it becomes physical, and all such
manifestations are indeed karmic. So muscle
testing can allow one to bring to consciousness their body level knowledge,
which may be more expansive than ones' current
awareness.

 

http://www.ascending-star.com/kinesiol.htm
One of the simplest, yet most useful techniques that anyone can learn, is self
muscle testing. The wealth of information one gains is astounding, however
surprisingly few people know how to do it. There are many forms of kinesiology,
which usually involve a tester and the one being tested. I will describe forms
in which the tester and testee are one and the same person.
The most efficient method of self testing is using one hand rather than two.
When testing with one hand, you can have it in your pocket, or behind your back,
or in your lap, and no one will know what you are doing. Or you can hold a
bottle of supplements in one hand, and test if your body needs it with the
other. However, if you use both hands to test, not only is it noticeable but it
can be awkward if one of your hands is engaged. Nonetheless, I will give
examples of both methods and you can pick the one that works best for you.
When you use kinesiology it is always good to connect to your higher Self while
you test for answers, but even then there will be times when you get
inconsistent, and false positive and false negative answers. One reason for
false answers is because the question was incorrectly phrased, or ambiguous in
some way. Also, our higher Self often wants us to make our own decisions, rather
than handing us the answer, or the answer may not be black and white, but some
shade of gray. In that case a yes or no is not appropriate. Also, if you are
emotionally involved in the question, that can also influence your answer,
rendering it inaccurate. Bear all this in mind when you practice muscle testing.
In times of need, however, when the answer is important and critical, your
muscle testing won’t let you down.
In the following pictures you will see the finger position for a "yes" answer,
and the position for a "no" answer.





Yes Position
No Position
Hold your fingers in the "yes" position. For some people it’s easier to put
the middle finger over the first, rather than the way I have it pictured. Which
ever way you do it, the top finger goes near the nail of the bottom finger. The
finger on the bottom is "locked" in place. It is stiff and does not lean down.
This is the "yes" position. From this position, gently push down the bottom
finger, with the top finger, into the "no" position. Notice how much pressure it
took to do that. It should take about 50% pressure, which I realize "50%"
doesn’t tell you anything definite, but feel into that and do it again a few
times. Notice how much pressure it takes to make the finger give, but not more
than that amount. Now holding the finger in the "yes" position, ask a question
in which you know the answer is yes. You could say, "I am X (your current age)
years old." Now push. The bottom finger should remain firm and not give,
meaning, "yes, that
  is correct." If it does give, you have either pushed too hard, or you are not
holding the bottom finger firm. Now ask a question in which you know the answer
is no. Maybe, "My name is Jack Sprat." Now push. The bottom finger should give,
which means, "no, that is not correct." To remember this, you can imagine that
the "negative" answer to the question literally weakened the finger, and it
gave. Practice this by asking other questions until you have the pressure
correct and are getting accurate answers.





No Position
Yes Position
This one begins in the "no" position rather than the "yes" as in the previous
illustration. In the "no" position, your thumb is holding back your other
finger. You can use any finger that is comfortable to you, rather than the one
that I have pictured. This is the finger that will push against the thumb. From
this position, gently push against the thumb until the finger flicks open into
the "yes" position. Notice how much pressure it took to do that. Now holding the
finger in the "no" position, ask a question in which you know the answer is no.
Maybe, "My name is Jack Sprat." Now push. The finger should not flick open. It
is as if it just wants to stay there with the thumb, as if to say, "no your
statement is not correct." If it does flick open, you have either pushed too
hard, or you are not holding the thumb firm. This time ask a question in which
you know that the answer is yes. You could say, "I am X (your current age) years
old." Now push. The
  finger should simply flick open, meaning, "yes, that is correct." Practice this
by asking other questions until you have the pressure correct and are getting
accurate answers.





Yes Position
No Position
Beginning with the "yes" position, with one hand make a circle, and with the
other hand insert two fingers into the circle. Insert any two fingers that are
comfortable for you, not necessarily the ones that I have pictured. This is the
"yes" position. With the inserted fingers, push against the circle and try to
open it, forming the "no" position. Notice how much pressure it took to push the
fingers part, opening the circle. Now holding the fingers in the "yes" position,
ask a question in which you know the answer is yes. You could say, "I am X (your
current age) years old." Now push against the circle with the inside fingers.
The circle should remain firm and the fingers not open, meaning, "yes, that is
correct." If they do open, you have either pushed too hard, or you are not
holding the circle firm. Now ask a question in which you know the answer is no.
Maybe, "My name is Jack Sprat." Now push. The circled fingers should open, which
means, "no, that
  is not correct." To remember this, you can imagine that the "negative" answer
to the question literally weakened the fingers, and they opened. Practice this
by asking other questions until you have the pressure correct and are getting
accurate answers.





Yes Position
No Position
With one hand make a circle with your fingers. With the other hand insert one
finger into the circle. Use any finger that is comfortable, not necessarily the
one that I have pictured. This is the "yes" position. Push the inside finger
against the circle, where the circled fingers touch. See how much pressure it
takes to force the inside finger through the circle into the "no" position. Now
holding the finger in the "yes" position, ask a question in which you know the
answer is yes. You could say, "I am X (your current age) years old." Now push
against the circle where the fingers meet. The circle should remain firm and you
should not be break through the closed fingers, meaning, "yes, that is correct."
If you do break through the closed fingers, you have either pushed too hard, or
you are not holding the circled fingers firm. Now ask a question in which you
know the answer is no. Maybe, "My name is Jack Sprat." Now push. The circle
should open which
  means, "no, that is not correct." To remember this, you can imagine that the
"negative" answer to the question literally weakened the circle fingers, and it
opened. Practice this by asking other questions until you have the pressure
correct and are getting accurate answers.
For techniques which use kinesiology for healing, I suggest


Never miss an email again!
Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out.





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

There are many forms of dowsing, pendulum, L rods, forked stick to find
water, applied kinesiology also know as muscle testing, EAV electric
acupuncture according to Voll, etc.



EVERYONE has the ability to learn these techniques.  What stands in the way
is the current belief system that ridicules mental skills and favors
"scientific" hard evidence.   Our physical universe is just a tiny portion
of all there is.  It is possible to communicate with the rest of the
universe and not be restricted to just what is in front of one's nose.  What
to call this depends on your religious or non religious upbringing.  Some
would call this talking to god, angels, Pan, nature, the universe, etc.  Of
course, some born again believers will be told that this is the devil.



With my electronic and programming background, I jokingly call this the BIG
computer in the sky.  It is possible to access this computer and find the
answer to almost anything.   BUT how you ask or phrase the question will
definitely affect the answers you get.  This is where most people who
attempt this will fail.  To ask will it rain tomorrow without stating where,
will get you wrong seeming answers.  I like the computer analogy since the
answers are based on very literal computer like interpretation of the
question.  With some practice it is possible to get past the simple yes/no
answer structure.  The first step is to eliminate the physical help tools or
training wheels and get the mental yes/no answers, and then get some longer
dialog and explanations.  The world would be quite different if everyone
made an effort to raise their consciousness.



Jim Meissner



   _____

From: DrClark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DrClark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Linda Evans
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 1:10 AM
To: DrClark@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DrClark] Re: The use of Dr Clark's time...



It sure is discouraging to not be able to find a reliable person that can do
testing for us
without having to bother Dr. Clark
Any ideas?
linda

________________________________
From: Ken Bagwell <kenancy2000@ <mailto:kenancy2000%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com>
To: DrClark@yahoogroups <mailto:DrClark%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 2:56:52 PM
Subject: [DrClark] Re: The use of Dr Clark's time...

What is dowsing, and why is the person using the device crucial for
accuracy?

-Ken

--- In DrClark@yahoogroups .com, Edy Rayfield <edyrayfield@ ...> wrote:
>
> I have heard the same thing. I have a dentist that uses an EAV on
me and have heard from others that use bicom and similar devices, but
all agree that the person doing the testing is crucial for accuracy.
>
> --- On Fri, 11/14/08, Jim Meissner2 <jpmeissner2@ ...> wrote:
>
> From: Jim Meissner2 <jpmeissner2@ ...>
> Subject: RE: [DrClark] The use of Dr Clark's time...
> To: DrClark@yahoogroups .com
> Date: Friday, November 14, 2008, 1:47 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Dear Ken:
>
> I built a syncrometer 20 years ago and came to the conclusion that
it is a
> dowsing device and depends on the skill or "receptivity" of the
user. The
> tone reflects skin conductivity. I doubt that there are many people who
> have the ability to use the device. I know a few people who can do
muscle
> testing and get good results. I believe a pendulum gives similar
results.
>
> Just my two cents worth.
>
> Jim Meissner
>
> _____
>
> From: DrClark@yahoogroups .com [mailto:DrClark@ yahoogroups .com] On
Behalf Of
> Ken Bagwell
> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 6:44 AM
> To: DrClark@yahoogroups .com
> Subject: [DrClark] The use of Dr Clark's time...
>
> I did want to mention one other thing. After watching the included
> DVD with the book, Dr Clark says that she spends nearly 7 days a week
> using the syncrometer to test for pollutants and parasites for
> ..patients, I guess.
>
> It seems like a tremendous waste of Dr Clark's time to do grunt work
> like that. Why wouldn't she hire someone to do syncrometer tests, and
> have herself continue with research, refining theories and maybe doing
> more interviews or conventions or something to get people interested
> and understanding this stuff?
>
> Understand that I'm not saying the syncrometer testing in itself is a
> waste of time, but that it is a waste of Dr Clark's time to do
> something so repetitive, it just seems like she should have an
> assistant take care of that 90% of the time.
>
> -Ken
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

It sure is discouraging to not be able to find a reliable person that can do
testing for us
without having to bother Dr. Clark
Any ideas?
linda




________________________________
From: Ken Bagwell <kenancy2000@...>
To: DrClark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 2:56:52 PM
Subject: [DrClark] Re: The use of Dr Clark's time...


What is dowsing, and why is the person using the device crucial for
accuracy?

-Ken

--- In DrClark@yahoogroups .com, Edy Rayfield <edyrayfield@ ...> wrote:
>
> I have heard the same thing.  I have a dentist that uses an EAV on
me and have heard from others that use bicom and similar devices, but
all agree that the person doing the testing is crucial for accuracy.
>
> --- On Fri, 11/14/08, Jim Meissner2 <jpmeissner2@ ...> wrote:
>
> From: Jim Meissner2 <jpmeissner2@ ...>
> Subject: RE: [DrClark] The use of Dr Clark's time...
> To: DrClark@yahoogroups .com
> Date: Friday, November 14, 2008, 1:47 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Dear Ken:
>
> I built a syncrometer 20 years ago and came to the conclusion that
it is a
> dowsing device and depends on the skill or "receptivity" of the
user. The
> tone reflects skin conductivity. I doubt that there are many people who
> have the ability to use the device. I know a few people who can do
muscle
> testing and get good results. I believe a pendulum gives similar
results.
>
> Just my two cents worth.
>
> Jim Meissner
>
> _____
>
> From: DrClark@yahoogroups .com [mailto:DrClark@ yahoogroups .com] On
Behalf Of
> Ken Bagwell
> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 6:44 AM
> To: DrClark@yahoogroups .com
> Subject: [DrClark] The use of Dr Clark's time...
>
> I did want to mention one other thing. After watching the included
> DVD with the book, Dr Clark says that she spends nearly 7 days a week
> using the syncrometer to test for pollutants and parasites for
> ..patients, I guess.
>
> It seems like a tremendous waste of Dr Clark's time to do grunt work
> like that. Why wouldn't she hire someone to do syncrometer tests, and
> have herself continue with research, refining theories and maybe doing
> more interviews or conventions or something to get people interested
> and understanding this stuff?
>
> Understand that I'm not saying the syncrometer testing in itself is a
> waste of time, but that it is a waste of Dr Clark's time to do
> something so repetitive, it just seems like she should have an
> assistant take care of that 90% of the time.
>
> -Ken
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>






[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

What is dowsing, and why is the person using the device crucial for
accuracy?

-Ken

--- In DrClark@yahoogroups.com, Edy Rayfield <edyrayfield@...> wrote:
>
> I have heard the same thing.  I have a dentist that uses an EAV on
me and have heard from others that use bicom and similar devices, but
all agree that the person doing the testing is crucial for accuracy.
>
> --- On Fri, 11/14/08, Jim Meissner2 <jpmeissner2@...> wrote:
>
> From: Jim Meissner2 <jpmeissner2@...>
> Subject: RE: [DrClark] The use of Dr Clark's time...
> To: DrClark@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, November 14, 2008, 1:47 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Dear Ken:
>
> I built a syncrometer 20 years ago and came to the conclusion that
it is a
> dowsing device and depends on the skill or "receptivity" of the
user. The
> tone reflects skin conductivity. I doubt that there are many people who
> have the ability to use the device. I know a few people who can do
muscle
> testing and get good results. I believe a pendulum gives similar
results.
>
> Just my two cents worth.
>
> Jim Meissner
>
> _____
>
> From: DrClark@yahoogroups .com [mailto:DrClark@yahoogroups .com] On
Behalf Of
> Ken Bagwell
> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 6:44 AM
> To: DrClark@yahoogroups .com
> Subject: [DrClark] The use of Dr Clark's time...
>
> I did want to mention one other thing. After watching the included
> DVD with the book, Dr Clark says that she spends nearly 7 days a week
> using the syncrometer to test for pollutants and parasites for
> ..patients, I guess.
>
> It seems like a tremendous waste of Dr Clark's time to do grunt work
> like that. Why wouldn't she hire someone to do syncrometer tests, and
> have herself continue with research, refining theories and maybe doing
> more interviews or conventions or something to get people interested
> and understanding this stuff?
>
> Understand that I'm not saying the syncrometer testing in itself is a
> waste of time, but that it is a waste of Dr Clark's time to do
> something so repetitive, it just seems like she should have an
> assistant take care of that 90% of the time.
>
> -Ken
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I have heard the same thing.  I have a dentist that uses an EAV on me and have
heard from others that use bicom and similar devices, but all agree that the
person doing the testing is crucial for accuracy.

--- On Fri, 11/14/08, Jim Meissner2 <jpmeissner2@...> wrote:

From: Jim Meissner2 <jpmeissner2@...>
Subject: RE: [DrClark] The use of Dr Clark's time...
To: DrClark@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 14, 2008, 1:47 PM






Dear Ken:

I built a syncrometer 20 years ago and came to the conclusion that it is a
dowsing device and depends on the skill or "receptivity" of the user. The
tone reflects skin conductivity. I doubt that there are many people who
have the ability to use the device. I know a few people who can do muscle
testing and get good results. I believe a pendulum gives similar results.

Just my two cents worth.

Jim Meissner

_____

From: DrClark@yahoogroups .com [mailto:DrClark@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of
Ken Bagwell
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 6:44 AM
To: DrClark@yahoogroups .com
Subject: [DrClark] The use of Dr Clark's time...

I did want to mention one other thing. After watching the included
DVD with the book, Dr Clark says that she spends nearly 7 days a week
using the syncrometer to test for pollutants and parasites for
..patients, I guess.

It seems like a tremendous waste of Dr Clark's time to do grunt work
like that. Why wouldn't she hire someone to do syncrometer tests, and
have herself continue with research, refining theories and maybe doing
more interviews or conventions or something to get people interested
and understanding this stuff?

Understand that I'm not saying the syncrometer testing in itself is a
waste of time, but that it is a waste of Dr Clark's time to do
something so repetitive, it just seems like she should have an
assistant take care of that 90% of the time.

-Ken

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]















[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

if using L- Methieine you need to take B-Complex with it!

L-Methionine or Methionine twice daily 500mg each; absolutely must be taken
with B-Complex vitamin having B-6, B-12 and Folic Acid. The B-Complex
vitamin must be taken each time a Methionine vitamin is taken; serious heath
complications can occur is the B-Complex is not taken with it. Methionine
should Never be taken without B-Complex.
This supplament increase mental acuity, decreases spontaneous talking and
instigates the production of collagen and taurine. Helps body control
heating effect.

Rebuilds cell wall integrity, counteracting cell wall breakdown from RF,
implants and Acoustic.
http://www.us-government-torture.com/KIT.html


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed" <ejones@...>
To: <DrClark@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: [DrClark] Re: Weaning Off Bipolar Drugs


> All you need are
> EFA Gold MoodAid (Mood Aid) or other high EPA
> http://www.springsunday.com/efa-gold-mood-aid-60-softgels-nature-s-way.html
>
> taurine 1000mg 4 per day
>
http://www.allstarhealth.com/f/now-double_strength_taurine_1000mg.htm?utm_source\
=google&utm_medium=GPS&utm_campaign=4744
>
> a sea mineral product because its really caused by a mineral deficiently
> (example lithium)
> http://www.seamineral.com/prod_cat_details.asp?prodid=1&prodcatid=1
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "regehr2001" <leoelfie@...>
> To: <DrClark@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 10:34 PM
> Subject: [DrClark] Re: Weaning Off Bipolar Drugs
>
>
>> No, I have not. I just know the president and founders of the company,
>> and talked to other users of the product. I also know that a
>> psychiatrist from the Harvard Medical school, under oath, highly
>> endorsed their product. When you do contact the company, always write
>> down the name of the person you talk to, so in case you have more
>> questions, you can call back and ask for that person.
>> Leo
>> -------------------------------------
>> --- In DrClark@yahoogroups.com, Cheryl Loop <cherylanneloop@...> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello Leo,
>>>      I reviewed your advice from an earlier post where you were
>> offering your advice to which I was also interested in. So may I ask a
>> question too? Thank you in advance.
>>>      I have been on Effexor for several years and have tried to ween
>> myself off. I get to a lower level and don't do well, ie. agitation,
>> easily reduced to tears, etc. I don't know if it is the drug that has
>> permanetely damaged my receptors/neurons or what.
>>>      You suggested  to another person getting off bi polar drugs to
>> seek out True Hope. I did as well. The testimony of the guy who had
>> taken the Formula True Hope said he had been on effexor and stressed a
>> very slow ween to get off of it. He said he was now a new man; for him
>> the True Hope Formula was "the" answer. I wish I knew if he got off
>> Effexor completely.(I will have to email the company, I suppose, to
>> find the answer)
>>>       My questions to you is: Have you personally had experience
>> with the True Hope formula you suggested?
>>>       Thank you for your time reading my posting.
>>> Cherylanne
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Paying hope forward"
>>> Cheryl
>>>
>>> --- On Mon, 10/13/08, regehr2001 <leoelfie@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> From: regehr2001 <leoelfie@...>
>>> Subject: [DrClark] Re: Weaning Off Bipolar Drugs
>>> To: DrClark@yahoogroups.com
>>> Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 5:57 PM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Look up http://www.truehope .com/ they are the best there is for your
>>> situation.
>>> Leo
>>> ------------ --------- --------- ---
>>> --- In DrClark@yahoogroups .com, "joanne_cromp" <joanne_cromp@ ...>
>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I am on lithium 900 mgs and serequel at 37 mgs ..My holistic doc has
>>> > me on 2,000 mgs l tryptophan, along with L- Methieine, L theanine and
>>> > adrenly support... I am still having trouble getting weaned and have
>>> > been having major panic, anxiety, social anxiety is worse..He put me
>>> > on a cleans drink of a medical food poweder that has liver support
>> but
>>> > it's $89.00 for 10 days worth.....I did that for 20 days (the drink)
>>> > but still feel anxiety, anger and stress, lashing out at peaople...He
>>> > suggested increase in Serequel..My God, what am I going to this guy
>>> > for??? I am also using passion flower along with tart cherry...He
>>> > wants to get me into introvenous nutrients at $ 199..It's exspensive,
>>> > can't do it very often but I am going to but I feel I might not be
>>> > absorbing nutrients, that is why the aminos are not working 100%
>>> > yet...I asked his office if I could go up 500- 1,000 mgs on the L-
>>> > Tryptophan because I found out you can get up to 3,000 mgs and I am
>>> > waiting to hear back...I want to do a major GI (gastro instest) test
>>> > and I found a good one for $ 399.00..Does anyone have any feed back?
>>> > ): JoAnne
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Read Testimonials:
>> http://CureZone.com/forums/f.asp?f=65
>> http://CureZone.com/forums/f.asp?f=100040
>> http://CureZone.com/forums/f.asp?f=100004
>> http://CureZone.com/forums/f.asp?f=292
>> http://CureZone.com/forums/f.asp?f=286
>>
>> Learn more from:
>> http://CureZone.com/forums/
>>
>> Community email addresses:
>> Post message: DrClark@onelist.com
>> Subscribe:    DrClark-subscribe@onelist.com
>> Unsubscribe:  DrClark-unsubscribe@onelist.com
>>
>> Community URL addresses:
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DrClark/
>> To unsubscribe, send blank message to DrClark-unsubscribe@onelist.com
>> List Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DrClark/messages/
>> http://drclarkia.comYahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Read Testimonials:
> http://CureZone.com/forums/f.asp?f=65
> http://CureZone.com/forums/f.asp?f=100040
> http://CureZone.com/forums/f.asp?f=100004
> http://CureZone.com/forums/f.asp?f=292
> http://CureZone.com/forums/f.asp?f=286
>
> Learn more from:
> http://CureZone.com/forums/
>
> Community email addresses:
> Post message: DrClark@onelist.com
> Subscribe:    DrClark-subscribe@onelist.com
> Unsubscribe:  DrClark-unsubscribe@onelist.com
>
> Community URL addresses:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DrClark/
> To unsubscribe, send blank message to DrClark-unsubscribe@onelist.com
> List Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DrClark/messages/
> http://drclarkia.comYahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

All you need are
EFA Gold MoodAid (Mood Aid) or other high EPA
http://www.springsunday.com/efa-gold-mood-aid-60-softgels-nature-s-way.html

taurine 1000mg 4 per day
http://www.allstarhealth.com/f/now-double_strength_taurine_1000mg.htm?utm_source\
=google&utm_medium=GPS&utm_campaign=4744

a sea mineral product because its really caused by a mineral deficiently
(example lithium)
http://www.seamineral.com/prod_cat_details.asp?prodid=1&prodcatid=1



----- Original Message -----
From: "regehr2001" <leoelfie@...>
To: <DrClark@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 10:34 PM
Subject: [DrClark] Re: Weaning Off Bipolar Drugs


> No, I have not. I just know the president and founders of the company,
> and talked to other users of the product. I also know that a
> psychiatrist from the Harvard Medical school, under oath, highly
> endorsed their product. When you do contact the company, always write
> down the name of the person you talk to, so in case you have more
> questions, you can call back and ask for that person.
> Leo
> -------------------------------------
> --- In DrClark@yahoogroups.com, Cheryl Loop <cherylanneloop@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello Leo,
>>      I reviewed your advice from an earlier post where you were
> offering your advice to which I was also interested in. So may I ask a
> question too? Thank you in advance.
>>      I have been on Effexor for several years and have tried to ween
> myself off. I get to a lower level and don't do well, ie. agitation,
> easily reduced to tears, etc. I don't know if it is the drug that has
> permanetely damaged my receptors/neurons or what.
>>      You suggested  to another person getting off bi polar drugs to
> seek out True Hope. I did as well. The testimony of the guy who had
> taken the Formula True Hope said he had been on effexor and stressed a
> very slow ween to get off of it. He said he was now a new man; for him
> the True Hope Formula was "the" answer. I wish I knew if he got off
> Effexor completely.(I will have to email the company, I suppose, to
> find the answer)
>>       My questions to you is: Have you personally had experience
> with the True Hope formula you suggested?
>>       Thank you for your time reading my posting.
>> Cherylanne
>>
>>
>>
>> "Paying hope forward"
>> Cheryl
>>
>> --- On Mon, 10/13/08, regehr2001 <leoelfie@...> wrote:
>>
>> From: regehr2001 <leoelfie@...>
>> Subject: [DrClark] Re: Weaning Off Bipolar Drugs
>> To: DrClark@yahoogroups.com
>> Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 5:57 PM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Look up http://www.truehope .com/ they are the best there is for your
>> situation.
>> Leo
>> ------------ --------- --------- ---
>> --- In DrClark@yahoogroups .com, "joanne_cromp" <joanne_cromp@ ...>
> wrote:
>> >
>> > I am on lithium 900 mgs and serequel at 37 mgs ..My holistic doc has
>> > me on 2,000 mgs l tryptophan, along with L- Methieine, L theanine and
>> > adrenly support... I am still having trouble getting weaned and have
>> > been having major panic, anxiety, social anxiety is worse..He put me
>> > on a cleans drink of a medical food poweder that has liver support
> but
>> > it's $89.00 for 10 days worth.....I did that for 20 days (the drink)
>> > but still feel anxiety, anger and stress, lashing out at peaople...He
>> > suggested increase in Serequel..My God, what am I going to this guy
>> > for??? I am also using passion flower along with tart cherry...He
>> > wants to get me into introvenous nutrients at $ 199..It's exspensive,
>> > can't do it very often but I am going to but I feel I might not be
>> > absorbing nutrients, that is why the aminos are not working 100%
>> > yet...I asked his office if I could go up 500- 1,000 mgs on the L-
>> > Tryptophan because I found out you can get up to 3,000 mgs and I am
>> > waiting to hear back...I want to do a major GI (gastro instest) test
>> > and I found a good one for $ 399.00..Does anyone have any feed back?
>> > ): JoAnne
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Read Testimonials:
> http://CureZone.com/forums/f.asp?f=65
> http://CureZone.com/forums/f.asp?f=100040
> http://CureZone.com/forums/f.asp?f=100004
> http://CureZone.com/forums/f.asp?f=292
> http://CureZone.com/forums/f.asp?f=286
>
> Learn more from:
> http://CureZone.com/forums/
>
> Community email addresses:
> Post message: DrClark@onelist.com
> Subscribe:    DrClark-subscribe@onelist.com
> Unsubscribe:  DrClark-unsubscribe@onelist.com
>
> Community URL addresses:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DrClark/
> To unsubscribe, send blank message to DrClark-unsubscribe@onelist.com
> List Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DrClark/messages/
> http://drclarkia.comYahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

The very first time I used it I felt a sense of well being and looseness.  I
always respond best at first and then things even out.  I do know that at
about the same time I started using it my fingers started knotting up and I
would get some bone pain, so I am sure it pulls metals and minerals from
tissues.  It is imperative that you fortify yourself with tissue salts
(minerals).   Like most detox methods it pulls and redistributes the
"stuff".  It is imperative to have your organs of elimination open and
functioning well in order to drain the toxins out of the body.  I use
homeopathy for most of that.  The liver and kidney must be supported and
sweating from exercise and/or saunas is helpful.  The bowels must be working
properly as well.



Lynn Rose Demartini DSH-P, RN, LMT

  <http://www.homeopathyhouston.com> http://www.homeopathyhouston.com

  <http://www.indigocenter.com> http://www.indigocenter.com



In our almost messianic quest to wipe out childhood disease--through
vaccinations, antibiotics and fever-reducing drugs--we have produced a
wasteland of children who are literally chronically sick and tired,
spending lives feeling uncomfortable in their untransformed skins. It
is as if we have prevented caterpillars from becoming butterflies
because the time of immobility as a chrysalis can be dangerous. Well
it is dangerous, at least a little, but it is more dangerous--in fact
deadly--to never allow a child to fulfill his or her destiny and
become a butterfly. We urgently need to respect the transformative
power of illness, to pluck up our courage and not succumb to those who
promise better health through injecting us with poisons, or harsh anti-
life medicines that become less and less effective. And more than
anything we need to believe in the healing powers of our children's
bodies, so we can give them the gift of confidence in their own
strength as they embark on the challenges of adulthood.  Thomas Cowan, MD








[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Stephen:
how much vitamin D and what kind is necessary to maintain healthy bones and do
you know
if it affects the brain.
thanks
linda




________________________________
From: Stephen Lindsay <slixeh@...>
To: bestfreecontent_business@yahoogroups.com; eAnnounce@yahoogroups.com;
freecontentcentral@yahoogroups.com; freezinecontent@yahoogroups.com;
MensHealth_Indonesia@yahoogroups.com; publisher_network@yahoogroups.com;
ReadMyArticles@yahoogroups.com; TheWriteArticles@yahoogroups.com;
usemyarticles@yahoogroups.com; writers_n_publishers@yahoogroups.com;
WANNA_BE_HEALTHY@yahoogroups.com; cholesteatoma@yahoogroups.com;
public_awareness@yahoogroups.com; cancercured@yahoogroups.com;
AAA-Surviving-Cancer@yahoogroups.com; hotflash@yahoogroups.com;
DrClark@yahoogroups.com; aahealth@yahoogroups.com;
bodyforlifewomensclub2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 8:39:37 PM
Subject: [DrClark] Is This the Greatest Cancer Breakthrough Ever?


Vitamin D -The Sunshine Vitamin!

I more than suspect that most doctors have no idea when it comes to the full
benefits of vitamin D. As well as its use in a whole range of treatment and
prevention such as:

- Type 2 diabetes

- As an anti-inflammatory agent...

- Protection against multiple sclerosis

- Reducing bone fragility in old people

- Parkinson's disease

- Renal (kidney) failure if in chronic deficiency of the vitamin

- Much more prone to chronic pain if in deficiency of the vitamin

Vitamin D also has showed some amazing results when looked at as a form of
cancer prevention.

Resource Box:
To read the rest of this article and many more like it click the link below
http://multiple- cancer-articles. blogspot. com/2008/ 08/is-this- greatest-
cancer-breakthro ugh.html

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]






[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi LisA:
what do the patients report after using the footbath
I AM CURIOUS.  THE LADY THAT SOLD IT TO ME
TOLD ME SHE HEALED HERSELF OF LUPUS WITH THE FOOT BATH.
LINDA




________________________________
From: "heal4life@..." <heal4life@...>
To: DrClark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 4:28:26 PM
Subject: Re: [DrClark] Ionic foot bath detox machines.


Edy,

Why don't you try the machines first. Your comments would have more value. Yes,
the salt will turn the water a yellowish color. But the machines also pull out
toxins, sometimes to the point that the water turns almost black, which does not
happen with just salt. The water becomes different colors for different people
depending on what toxins are being removed. The water color also changes for the
same person over time, as the person becomes less toxic. The machine that I am
interested in comes with a thirty-day money-back guarantee. If you are not
pleased, and convinced that it does what is said, you can return it for a full
refund. Try it first. Your opinion will then have more value. The first and most
important step in healing is to detoxify the body. Without first detoxing the
body, a person is mostly just spinning their wheels with anything else that they
do.

-----Original Message-----
From: Edy Rayfield <edyrayfield@ sbcglobal. net>
To: DrClark@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 9:42 am
Subject: Re: [DrClark] Ionic foot bath detox machines.

Sorry, I posted this, but maybe didn't come through.? A bit different than the
baths, but I think the same principal.
?
http://articles. mercola.com/ sites/articles/ archive/2008/ 10/14/detoxifyin
g-foot-pads- are-a-scam. aspx

--- On Sat, 10/18/08, Lisa Doyon <lisadoyon@msn. com> wrote:

From: Lisa Doyon <lisadoyon@msn. com>
Subject: Re: [DrClark] Ionic foot bath detox machines.
To: DrClark@yahoogroups .com
Date: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 9:23 AM

I've been doing ionic foot baths for over a year at an osteopath's office.
You sit in a room with up to four other people at the same time. The color
differences in the water varies greatly depending on what you're detoxing.
I've seen black like motor oil, brown, rusty looking. I have seen flecks
that are heavy metals, and yeast floating on top. Everyone's water is
different, so if it was doing nothing, it should all be the same. This
doctor uses kinesiology to see if you need it. I trust him implicitly. He
has helped so many people. He's finally gotten on the parasite and Candida
bandwagon and is having everyone who tests positive for them doing cleanses.
And he only charges $110 for eight sessions, so he's not trying to make a
killing off of it but wants to offer the service to people because he thinks
it's beneficial.

Lisa

-------Original Message----- --

From: Edy Rayfield
Date: 10/18/08 08:59:34
To: DrClark@yahoogroups .com
Subject: Re: [DrClark] Ionic foot bath detox machines.

I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but a scientific study was done on
these ionic foot baths and they found that plain faucet water would turn
them brown, too. It's the moisture in you feet perspiring at night that
changes the color. I'm talking about the food pads, but I believe the
concept is scientifically the same.

--Recent Activity
11New Members
Visit Your Group
Meditation and
Lovingkindness
A Yahoo! Group
to share and learn.
Yahoo! Health
Memory Loss
Are you at risk
for Alzheimers?
Sell Online
Start selling with
our award-winning
e-commerce tools..

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]






[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hey Lisa there is something to the foot baths.
I did one treatment at the county fair last year.  it was 20 minutes.
My water turned dark brown with all kinds of stuff in there.
Different people had different degrees of darkness and thickness.
The most important part of the story is that after I got done, we were told to
drink a lot of
water.  I did not have b ut a small  bottle.  I walked to the  booth next to
this one with my husband
to see some water filters.  While I was there I had the worst liver pain in my
life.  I was bending over
with pain.  I straightened up as best I could and went back to talk to the
people with the
foot baths.  They gave me a big bottle of water.  I drank as much as I could and
within a few
minutes, the pain disappeared.
Was that a toxic load or what?????
Do you think this footbath releases toxins that go into your blood stream and
then the liver..
of course!
I bought a machine later on next year.  I started using at home but with
different results.  Milder and our water
has a lot of minerals.  So it will turn dark with just the water.  I don't know
what to think
any input??
thanks
linda




________________________________
From: Edy Rayfield <edyrayfield@...>
To: DrClark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 12:14:19 PM
Subject: Re: [DrClark] Ionic foot bath detox machines.


Absolutely.  Detoxing is vital.  I'm doing many things toward that goal.  If you
feel the ionic foot bath is doing it for you then I say Go for it!  Just thought
I'd offer up some other opinions and such.

--- On Sat, 10/18/08, heal4life@aol. com <heal4life@aol. com> wrote:

From: heal4life@aol. com <heal4life@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [DrClark] Ionic foot bath detox machines.
To: DrClark@yahoogroups .com
Date: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 4:28 PM

Edy,

Why don't you try the machines first. Your comments would have more value. Yes,
the salt will turn the water a yellowish color. But the machines also pull out
toxins, sometimes to the point that the water turns almost black, which does not
happen with just salt. The water becomes different colors for different people
depending on what toxins are being removed. The water color also changes for the
same person over time, as the person becomes less toxic. The machine that I am
interested in comes with a thirty-day money-back guarantee. If you are not
pleased, and convinced that it does what is said, you can return it for a full
refund. Try it first. Your opinion will then have more value. The first and most
important step in healing is to detoxify the body. Without first detoxing the
body, a person is mostly just spinning their wheels with anything else that they
do.

-----Original Message-----
From: Edy Rayfield <edyrayfield@ sbcglobal. net>
To: DrClark@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 9:42 am
Subject: Re: [DrClark] Ionic foot bath detox machines.

Sorry, I posted this, but maybe didn't come through.? A bit different than the
baths, but I think the same principal.
?
http://articles. mercola.com/ sites/articles/ archive/2008/ 10/14/detoxifyin
g-foot-pads- are-a-scam. aspx

--- On Sat, 10/18/08, Lisa Doyon <lisadoyon@msn. com> wrote:

From: Lisa Doyon <lisadoyon@msn. com>
Subject: Re: [DrClark] Ionic foot bath detox machines.
To: DrClark@yahoogroups .com
Date: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 9:23 AM

I've been doing ionic foot baths for over a year at an osteopath's office.
You sit in a room with up to four other people at the same time. The color
differences in the water varies greatly depending on what you're detoxing.
I've seen black like motor oil, brown, rusty looking. I have seen flecks
that are heavy metals, and yeast floating on top. Everyone's water is
different, so if it was doing nothing, it should all be the same. This
doctor uses kinesiology to see if you need it. I trust him implicitly. He
has helped so many people. He's finally gotten on the parasite and Candida
bandwagon and is having everyone who tests positive for them doing cleanses.
And he only charges $110 for eight sessions, so he's not trying to make a
killing off of it but wants to offer the service to people because he thinks
it's beneficial.

Lisa

-------Original Message----- --

From: Edy Rayfield
Date: 10/18/08 08:59:34
To: DrClark@yahoogroups .com
Subject: Re: [DrClark] Ionic foot bath detox machines.

I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but a scientific study was done on
these ionic foot baths and they found that plain faucet water would turn
them brown, too. It's the moisture in you feet perspiring at night that
changes the color. I'm talking about the food pads, but I believe the
concept is scientifically the same.

--Recent Activity
11New Members
Visit Your Group
Meditation and
Lovingkindness
A Yahoo! Group
to share and learn.
Yahoo! Health
Memory Loss
Are you at risk
for Alzheimers?
Sell Online
Start selling with
our award-winning
e-commerce tools..

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]






[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Lynn:
what improvement did you notice on your health?
Linda




________________________________
From: Lynn Rose Demartini <lynn@...>
To: DrClark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 9:16:33 AM
Subject: [DrClark] FW:  Re: Ionic foot bath detox machines.




From: Lynn [mailto:Lynn@HomeopathyHous ton.com]
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 9:18 AM
To: 'DrClark@yahoogroup s.com'
Subject: Re: Ionic foot bath detox machines.

You need to use the salt to improve the conductivity.  My footbath registers
the resistance so you can adjust it with salt.  As the plates deteriorate
more salt is needed.  And yes the plates deterioration is part of the water
mix as well.  Everyones water on its own will produce a variation in color
and of course we are a big salt water bag of that water so we should see the
same colors.  What was much more intriguing to me was not the color it was
the smell in the water.  Anyone who has worked with dialysis patients or in
an ICU with toxic shock patients will recognize the stink in that water.
That is what sold me on them years ago.  That is not in the fooitbath when
you don't have feet in it!   I have tried the patches.  Some folks swear by
them.  I felt nothing.

Lynn Rose Demartini DSH-P, RN, LMT

www.indigocenter. com

www.homeopathyhoust on.com

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]






[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Dear Ken:



I built a syncrometer 20 years ago and came to the conclusion that it is a
dowsing device and depends on the skill or "receptivity" of the user.   The
tone reflects skin conductivity.  I doubt that there are many people who
have the ability to use the device.   I know a few people who can do muscle
testing and get good results.  I believe a pendulum gives similar results.



Just my two cents worth.



Jim Meissner



   _____

From: DrClark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DrClark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Ken Bagwell
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 6:44 AM
To: DrClark@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DrClark] The use of Dr Clark's time...



I did want to mention one other thing. After watching the included
DVD with the book, Dr Clark says that she spends nearly 7 days a week
using the syncrometer to test for pollutants and parasites for
..patients, I guess.

It seems like a tremendous waste of Dr Clark's time to do grunt work
like that. Why wouldn't she hire someone to do syncrometer tests, and
have herself continue with research, refining theories and maybe doing
more interviews or conventions or something to get people interested
and understanding this stuff?

Understand that I'm not saying the syncrometer testing in itself is a
waste of time, but that it is a waste of Dr Clark's time to do
something so repetitive, it just seems like she should have an
assistant take care of that 90% of the time.

-Ken





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I did want to mention one other thing.  After watching the included
DVD with the book, Dr Clark says that she spends nearly 7 days a week
using the syncrometer to test for pollutants and parasites for
..patients, I guess.

It seems like a tremendous waste of Dr Clark's time to do grunt work
like that.  Why wouldn't she hire someone to do syncrometer tests, and
have herself continue with research, refining theories and maybe doing
more interviews or conventions or something to get people interested
and understanding this stuff?

Understand that I'm not saying the syncrometer testing in itself is a
waste of time, but that it is a waste of Dr Clark's time to do
something so repetitive, it just seems like she should have an
assistant take care of that 90% of the time.

-Ken

FDA Running Extortion Racket: Natural Supplement Companies Threatened
with Arrest if They Don't Pay Up

http://www.naturalnews.com/024567.html

"NaturalNews has learned the U.S. Food and Drug Administration is
running a criminal extortion racket designed to drain cash from health
supplement companies and shift it into the pockets of top FDA
contractors. This organized crime operation has been running for
years, and it has operated with impunity because each company targeted
by the scam feels isolated and alone, unable to face the astronomical
legal bills of going to court and battling the FDA. So one by one,
they agree to "settle" with the FDA for crimes they never committed.
Part of the settlement, of course, involves the payment of FDA
employees or contractors who pocket the money extorted from health
companies.

NaturalNews has interviewed executives from three different companies
who have been targeted for extortion by U.S. Food and Drug
Administration employees. At their request, the names of those
companies are being kept confidential until legal action being taken
against them is resolved. Interviews have been recorded, with
permission, with two of those companies and will be released to the
public at a later date. Documents proving this FDA extortion racket
are included here."

-Ken