Hi,
Chest pains after cloves, could be due to following reasons:
1. Heart worm or dirofilaria. (A parasite)
2. Cloves causing burning or scalding sensation in esophagus.
MM
========================
thomsdaughter wrote:
> Hello all!
>   I just joined this group.  I have been reading Dr. Clark's books for
> a while.  I have done her parasite and gall bladder/liver cleanses and
> have her zapper.  My mother has been trying to do the parasite
> cleanse, but experiences severe chest pains when taking the cloves.
> Any advice on that?
>   Also, I would like to put my son through the cleanse, but he is too
> young to swallow the suppliments and I'm sure would gag on the
> tinture.  Any ideas?
>   I have so many questions, I'll just start with those two.
> Thank you!
> Theresa

Since lupus is a case of extreme inflammation, I would personally try
mangosteen juice from the company that invented it. Lyn and I
distribute it because we have never seen anything that can equal its
safety, simplicity, purity (Syncrometer tested) and effectiveness. It
contains the most potent anti-inflammatory ever found, is affordable,
non-toxic, and delicious. Call me at 888-533-7007 or write me at
ad7@... for more. See www.lovemangosteen.net for stories from
people that we know personally.

Arthur Doerksen
www.BestZapper.com


--- In DrClark@yahoogroups.com, "Mary Holcomb-Schultz"
<lindy.schultz@...> wrote:
>
> My 18 year old daughter has a friend who has a severe case of Lupus.
> She has had seizures from out of control fever, brainstem
> hemmorrhaging...most organs began shutting down...78 hours in a
> medically induced coma...this was in October. She has lost 55 pounds.
> She has improved, but she is not able to be around others because her
> immune system is not strong enough. She is on 20 pills per day, and
> trying to gain her weight back....What can I suggest for this family.
> Their only child is dieing.             Lindy
>

Have you looked into essential oils?  I read a few months ago that rose oil was
the most potent and a drop placed in stategic places (diluted with olive oil)
actually creates it's own current, even more so than a zapper. I was shocked to
read it but have not investigated further. As to if it would have the same
zapping effect as far as killing parasites, I have not a clue.



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Hi Darryl, yes I meant voltage.  When  I was using my hand held rods I wasn't
noticing any effect, and the most I was feeling was just up my arms to the
elbows. so I did more reading and Dr. Clark said if there is any scaring or
adhesions this would interrupt current and you'd get better current flow by
moving the paddles or plates closer to the intended target area.  I tried this
and was able to feel a difference right away. Sometimes folks have old forgot
and faded scars no longer visable, or from childhood. I can't count how many
times I had skinned my elbows (and knees) as a child. So this probably was where
my current was fading off.   I hope this helps.

ragman <ragpub@...> wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marlene"

Hi Marlene, thanks for responding.

  , you might consider just zapping the breast only that is
> affected with small paddles, at the lowest possible frequency.

Frequency or voltage? Also, is the signal likely to stay just at the
breast? If it normally can pervade your whole body by holding it in your
hands then it isn simply following the easiest electrical path which would
be simply across your chest.

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I mixed the powders in yogurt.  She didn't like it at first but got used to
it after awhile.  I used as little yogurt as possible so it would be done
quickly, fewer bites.

Lisa

-------Original Message-------

From: thomsdaughter
Date: 02/27/07 22:09:25
To: DrClark@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DrClark] Cloves and chest pain

Hello all!
I just joined this group. I have been reading Dr. Clark's books for
a while. I have done her parasite and gall bladder/liver cleanses and
have her zapper. My mother has been trying to do the parasite
cleanse, but experiences severe chest pains when taking the cloves.
Any advice on that?
Also, I would like to put my son through the cleanse, but he is too
young to swallow the suppliments and I'm sure would gag on the
tinture. Any ideas?
I have so many questions, I'll just start with those two.
Thank you!
Theresa





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Darryl,

I am not an expert, nor have I been around this list as long as most.  I can
only offer my personal experience and my theory of why zapping during
pregnancy would be discouraged.

While on my period, I usually have severe cramping unless I use my zapper.
I have a Terminator zapper and if I sleep with it overnight, I do not feel a
single cramp.  My period does seem to be heavier and quicker.  It seems as
if by using the zapper, my body has an easier time sloughing off that extra
lining in the uterus.  Maybe it has something to do with the whole positive
and negative charge or something.  Just my thoughts.

Maybe there's someone on the list who better understands and can explain
that  process and why the zapper works that way.

Bonnie

On 2/24/07, ragman <ragpub@...> wrote:
>
>   Hi all,
>
> New to this list and am trying to work out why there is concern over
> zapping while pregnant. My why has been diagnosed with breast cancer after
> falling pregant with our 3 child. I've built and used zappers before but
> havn't been able to find any reasoning as to why it might be harmful to
> feotuses. The only reason is that it hasn't been tried. Why did Clark feel
> she needed to warn against it?
>
> Darryl
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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My 18 year old daughter has a friend who has a severe case of Lupus.
She has had seizures from out of control fever, brainstem
hemmorrhaging...most organs began shutting down...78 hours in a
medically induced coma...this was in October. She has lost 55 pounds.
She has improved, but she is not able to be around others because her
immune system is not strong enough. She is on 20 pills per day, and
trying to gain her weight back....What can I suggest for this family.
Their only child is dieing.             Lindy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marlene" <xander95608@...>

Hi Marlene, thanks for responding.

>I can think of only 2 reasons why she would issue a warning against using a
>zapper on a pregnant woman.  First, especially early in gestation,
>electrical current probably could affect brain development.  Secondly, as
>the tumor cells explode, if they fragment to small particles that spread
>and possibly cross the placenta, might infect the fetus if they weren't
>properly flushed promptly from the body.

It's not my understanding that the cells themselves explode, but the
paracites (e.g. liver fluke) are destroyed.  Clark says that the tumor
remains but after paracites are removed, it is no longer malignant.

> So zapping would be quite experimental if there has been nobody come
> forward to say they have tried this with success.  If you should decide to
> zap anyway, you might consider just zapping the breast only that is
> affected with small paddles, at the lowest possible frequency.

Frequency or voltage?  Also, is the signal likely to stay just at the
breast? If it normally can pervade your whole body by holding it in your
hands then it isn simply following the easiest electrical path which would
be simply across your chest.

...

>If diagnosis was made only by visual study or palpatation, a blood test
>needs to be done to be sure.

Diagnosis was by biopsy.

Darryl


>
> ragman <ragpub@...> wrote:  Hi all,
>
> New to this list and am trying to work out why there is concern over
> zapping while pregnant. My why has been diagnosed with breast cancer after
> falling pregant with our 3 child. I've built and used zappers before but
> havn't been able to find any reasoning as to why it might be harmful to
> feotuses. The only reason is that it hasn't been tried. Why did Clark feel
> she needed to warn against it?
>
> Darryl
>

Hello all!
   I just joined this group.  I have been reading Dr. Clark's books for
a while.  I have done her parasite and gall bladder/liver cleanses and
have her zapper.  My mother has been trying to do the parasite
cleanse, but experiences severe chest pains when taking the cloves.
Any advice on that?
   Also, I would like to put my son through the cleanse, but he is too
young to swallow the suppliments and I'm sure would gag on the
tinture.  Any ideas?
   I have so many questions, I'll just start with those two.
Thank you!
Theresa

Darryl,

You can fax Dr. Clark a letter with your question.  She has always faxed me
back a response handwritten by her.

Lisa

-------Original Message-------

From: Ken Bagwell
Date: 2/27/2007 2:22:00 PM
To: DrClark@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DrClark] Re: Zapping while pregnant

Hi Darryl,

I would probably call her clinic down in Tijuana, and ask if someone,
or even Dr. Clark herself, can just give you advise on this issue.
ince you are probably one of extremely few people to ever ask such a
question seriously, she might "give you the time of day", so to speak.

(As I understand it, she is usually too busy with work in the clinic
to answer calls, personally)

-Ken Bagwell

--- In DrClark@yahoogroups.com, "ragman" <ragpub@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> New to this list and am trying to work out why there is concern over
zapping while pregnant. My why has been diagnosed with breast cancer
after falling pregant with our 3 child. I've built and used zappers
before but havn't been able to find any reasoning as to why it might
be harmful to feotuses. The only reason is that it hasn't been tried.
Why did Clark feel she needed to warn against it?
>
> Darryl
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





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Hi Darryl,

I would probably call her clinic down in Tijuana, and ask if someone,
or even Dr. Clark herself, can just give you advise on this issue.
ince you are probably one of extremely few people to ever ask such a
question seriously, she might "give you the time of day", so to speak.

(As I understand it, she is usually too busy with work in the clinic
to answer calls, personally)

-Ken Bagwell



--- In DrClark@yahoogroups.com, "ragman" <ragpub@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> New to this list and am trying to work out why there is concern over
zapping while pregnant.  My why has been diagnosed with breast cancer
after falling pregant with our 3 child.  I've built and used zappers
before but havn't been able to find any reasoning as to why it might
be harmful to feotuses.  The only reason is that it hasn't been tried.
  Why did Clark feel she needed to warn against it?
>
> Darryl
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I can think of only 2 reasons why she would issue a warning against using a
zapper on a pregnant woman.  First, especially early in gestation, electrical
current probably could affect brain development.  Secondly, as the tumor cells
explode, if they fragment to small particles that spread and possibly cross the
placenta, might infect the fetus if they weren't properly flushed promptly from
the body.  So zapping would be quite experimental if there has been nobody come
forward to say they have tried this with success.  If you should decide to zap
anyway, you might consider just zapping the breast only that is affected with
small paddles, at the lowest possible frequency.  If the alternatative choice is
surgery and chemotherapy, I'd certainly opt for DrClarks suggestions.  Chemo is
toxic.  This is just my thoughts and should not be used as medical advice. 
Prayers and meditation are good therapy, but really she should see an expert
alternative medicine practitioner.  Also
  first get a second opinion on that diagnosis of breast cancer.  Sometimes
mistakes are made in diagnosis. What is the cancer cell count in her blood?  If
diagnosis was made only by visual study or palpatation, a blood test needs to be
done to be sure.

ragman <ragpub@...> wrote:  Hi all,

New to this list and am trying to work out why there is concern over zapping
while pregnant. My why has been diagnosed with breast cancer after falling
pregant with our 3 child. I've built and used zappers before but havn't been
able to find any reasoning as to why it might be harmful to feotuses. The only
reason is that it hasn't been tried. Why did Clark feel she needed to warn
against it?

Darryl

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Hi Alaine,

   All the information you need about over acidity and the damage they do to our
health, and how to reverse the process, is in the site of DR. Robert O. Young.

   http://www.phmiracleliving.com/

   I have been following Dr. Young's advice for some time now, and I'm a witness
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   Just browse the site, you will find a wealth of information and resources.

   All the best


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Lainey <Lainey513@...> wrote:
           Hello everyone.
I have been reading with much interest all of the posts that have come
thru this wonderful group since joining and trying to absorb
everything. I had a few ph strips that someone had sent me a while back
(urine testing) and I tested myself the other day and it was the
highest end on the acidic level it could go. Since then I have been
trying to find out what to do about it. From what I have been reading
in being able to find a few sites the things that have been bothering
me for the past 5 years could all be attributed to an overabundance of
acid and the wrong PH. Is there anything in particular I can do right
away to reverse this process or any websites or programs anyone has
used that has had this problem and changed it.
thank you so much in advance for any help

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Hello everyone.
I have been reading with much interest all of the posts that have come
thru this wonderful group since joining and trying to absorb
everything. I had a few ph strips that someone had sent me a while back
(urine testing) and I tested myself the other day and it was the
highest end on the acidic level it could go. Since then I have been
trying to find out what to do about it. From what I have been reading
in being able to find a few sites the things that have been bothering
me for the past 5 years could all be attributed to an overabundance of
acid and the wrong PH. Is there anything in particular I can do right
away to reverse this process or any websites or programs anyone has
used that has had this problem and changed it.
thank you so much in advance for any help

Alaine

Can someone tell me where to download Dr. Clarks books  I bought  her cure for
all disease but can not find it anywhere I have been diagnosed with Ra and
wanted to see what she recommends any information will be appricated Julie
Dan <granadahills2002@...> wrote:           Re:sodiumbicarbonate - cancer
is a fungus

More about it:

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--- In DrClark@yahoogroups.com, Ruth Ramos <ruth_rosita@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Victor,
>
> I will HIGHLY recommend ( I can't stress enough) to investigate
all about Alkaline nutrition!!!
>
> I will not go into much details here, but I'm sure you are
overwhelm with information from all directions ( I don't blame you, I
will exactly the same). But please check on Dr. Robert O. Young
website about how acidity is the cause of all diseases, including
cancer. Please understand that I don't promote Dr. Young for any
economic reason, I just have being studying nutrition for some time
now and I'm totally convincend of his findings (not only him, but
many others of which I'm sure many of you have heard of -- people who
has been kept in darkness - like Dr. Clark -- just because it is not
in the interest of BIG pharma!
>
> You can get a set of DVDs on Dr. Young's site explaining all about
cancer and how to get rif of it.
>
> The site: www.phmiracleliving.com
>
> Then search for books, dvds and videos.
>
> I wll start with the video about Cancer, and then you can approach
the healing center for questions. I do this because I have seen a
miracle following an alkaline diet.
>
> All the best
>
> Ruth
>
>
> Victor Martinez <vmtz2001@...> wrote:
> Lyn, I realize it's been a long time since your post on
the red
> clover, but does the red clover have to be fresh, whole clover, or
> can it be the store-bought variety that is ground?
>
> --- In DrClark@yahoogroups.com, Lynn Tilmon <ljtilmon@> wrote:
> >
> > When I had breast cancer in 2003, I made red clover tea in a
> gallon container, chilled in the refrigerator and drank it in place
> of water. This herb stops cancer from spreading. Something was
> telling me that I should have had another biopsy done, but my
> oncologists wouldn't do it, saying that poking around in the tumor
> may cause the cancer cells to spread. Here is what happened:
> >
> > When the removed my left breast and dissected it, all that was
> found was dead tissue and a lot of blood.
> >
> > Anyway, here is the Red Clover recipe:
> >
> > 1 Cup of Red Clover Herb
> > 1 gallon of bioling water
> >
> > Let the tea seep for about 20 minutes before refrigerating it.
> It's brown, but it has no taste at all, so you can tolerate drinking
> it for water if it's appearance doesn't bother you. Believe me, it
> works!
> >
> > For those of you who are (or know of someone who is) getting
> chemo treatments (which I couldn't tolerate after the second
> treatment), here's a recipe for the nausea:
> >
> > 1 can of frozen lemonade
> > 1 can of frozen limeade
> > 4 cans of distilled water
> > Refrigerate
> >
> > After a couple of sips, the nausea disappears.
> >
> >
> > Lots love & blessings,
> >
> > Lynn Tilmon
> >
> >
> > victor martinez <vmtz2001@> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I haven't been much of a participating member, though my wife's on
> the Dr. Clark parasite maintenance cleanse for her breast cancer. My
> head has been spinning with all the groups I belong to, and all the
> websites I have been checking out, but why I didn't start here, I
> don't know.
> >
> > I would like anyone in the know to explain to me a little about
> cancer tumors. When the Dr. Clark protocol kills the cancer cells,
> what happens to the tumor? Does the tumor disappear altogether, or
> just the cancer cells. My wife's mamogram and ultrasound indicated a
> 1.85mm tumor, which is smaller than two inches. However, in feeling
> it, it's the size of an apple. That could be because she's said to
> have cyst. Maybe a larger portion of the whole mass is cystic.
> There's a smaller attachment on top of the larger mass that I
> suspect is the cancer tumor. I'll have to ask the doctor about that.
> The reason I ask what happens to the tumor itself when the cancer is
> eliminated is that I find it strange that her biopsy took so long
> and had to be refered for a cell block. My hope was that the cells
> retained only part of the characteristics of cancer cells and had
> the pathologist stumped as to what exactly it was. But when the
> results came back it was low grade cancer, first stage,
> > but not DCIS, ductal Cancer insitu, which would mean it has spread
> out of the ducts. Hers has. I've read the Dr. Clark Parasite Cleanse
> eliminates cancer in 6 days, could it be that they didn't know what
> to make of the cancer? They claim it's clear cut cancer, yet the
> final results are still not in.
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>
>
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Hello,
I am new here and have Fibromyalgia.
My upper body is riddled in constant chronic pain among other symptoms.
I am getting ready to order the parasite cleanses which I, my husband,
and the pets will undergo, but how about my 28 month-year-old
daughter?  Do I follow the weight dosages outlined for pets?  We still
nurse, but only at night to go to sleep.
I also have a zapper that my engineer husband made for me that I've
begun using. After the parasite cleanse, I plan to follow with the
kidney, liver, & bowel cleanses.
Thanks!  kc

Hi all,

New to this list and am trying to work out why there is concern over zapping
while pregnant.  My why has been diagnosed with breast cancer after falling
pregant with our 3 child.  I've built and used zappers before but havn't been
able to find any reasoning as to why it might be harmful to feotuses.  The only
reason is that it hasn't been tried.  Why did Clark feel she needed to warn
against it?

Darryl

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Dear Group,

First I want to say that I'm not cutting down Dr Clarks work, she has
helped so many people and she doesn't get enough credit for what she
has done.

I just want you to be open to other causes of illness. After 7-8
years of headaches/migraines and sinus infections I'm finally seeing
the light at the end of the tunnel. After 2 years of the medical
route, I turned to the natural route. I tried cleanses, fasts,
colonics, flushes, chiropractic, herbs, oils, and what ever else I
tried.

I've been seeing this chiropractor who specializes in N.O.T., which
is Neural Organizational Technique. It has been a God send. When her
physical things weren't helping me, she said, "If it's not helping,
then it's not physical, it must be emotional." She tested me using
Kinesiology, and it was definitely emotional. I haven't had a sinus
infection in about 3-4 months. But my head still hurt, right between
my eyebrows. Then I was deathly afraid of the dark, she helped me
with that. Then I was terrified of being assulted in some way, she
said that my body didn't want to deal with it right now. But,
eventually what came out was that I was molested from the time I was
5 until I was 7. I kept if from myself for 37 years. So, I'm dealing
with a lot right now, but I FEEL SO MUCH BETTER!! I have more to deal
with, because I still get very mild headaches, but I will get there.
My doc says it's like an onion, you take off the first layer and what
do you have, another layer to deal with.

The mental causes for physical illness and the probable causes are in
the book Heal Your Body by Louise L. Hay. I will put some here:

Acne-----Not accepting the self. Dislike of the self.
AIDS-----Feeling defenseless and hopeless. Nobody cares. A strong
          belief in not being good enough. Denial of the self. Sexual
          guilt.
Allergies---Who are you allergic to? Denying your own power.
Alzheimers---Refusal to deal with the world as it is. Hopelessness
              and helplessness. Anger.
Bedwetting---Fear of parent, usually the father.
High Blood Pressure---Longstanding emotional problem not solved.
Cancer---Deep hurt. Longstanding resentment. Deep secret or grief
          eating away at the self. Carrying hatreds. "What's the use?"
Depression---Anger you feel you do not have a right to have.
              Hopelessness.
Diabetes---Longing for what might have been. A great need to control.
            Deep sorrow. No sweetness left.
Kidney Stones---Lumps of undissolved anger.
Multiple Sclerosis---Mental hardness, hard-heartedness, iron will,
                      inflexibility. Fear.
Sinusitis---Irritation to one person, someone close.

This is just a few. I'm not saying that what you have is emotional,
but wouldn't it be great if you could find out if it's physical or
emotional and then go from there to take care of it.

I hope this has helped someone, and may that someone see that light
at the end of the tunnel that I see. :)

Midge

i just read your email on psoriasis.  the colon and a series of liver
cleanses should fix that problem, and drinking 8 cups of water a day
judykcleansingcoach

Re:sodiumbicarbonate - cancer is a fungus

More about it:

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--- In DrClark@yahoogroups.com, Ruth Ramos <ruth_rosita@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Victor,
>
>   I will HIGHLY recommend ( I can't stress enough) to investigate
all about Alkaline nutrition!!!
>
>   I will not go into much details here, but I'm sure you are
overwhelm with information from all directions ( I don't blame you, I
will exactly the same). But please check on Dr. Robert O. Young
website about how acidity is the cause of all diseases, including
cancer. Please understand that I don't promote Dr. Young for any
economic reason, I just have being studying nutrition for some time
now and I'm totally convincend  of his findings (not only him, but
many others of which I'm sure many of you have heard of -- people who
has been kept in darkness - like Dr. Clark -- just because it is not
in the interest of BIG pharma!
>
>   You can get a set of DVDs on Dr. Young's site explaining all about
cancer and how to get rif of it.
>
>   The site:  www.phmiracleliving.com
>
>   Then search for books, dvds and videos.
>
>   I wll start with the video about Cancer, and then you can approach
the healing center for questions. I do this because I have seen a
miracle following an alkaline diet.
>
>   All the best
>
>   Ruth
>
>
> Victor Martinez <vmtz2001@...> wrote:
>           Lyn, I realize it's been a long time since your post on
the red
> clover, but does the red clover have to be fresh, whole clover, or
> can it be the store-bought variety that is ground?
>
> --- In DrClark@yahoogroups.com, Lynn Tilmon <ljtilmon@> wrote:
> >
> > When I had breast cancer in 2003, I made red clover tea in a
> gallon container, chilled in the refrigerator and drank it in place
> of water. This herb stops cancer from spreading. Something was
> telling me that I should have had another biopsy done, but my
> oncologists wouldn't do it, saying that poking around in the tumor
> may cause the cancer cells to spread. Here is what happened:
> >
> > When the removed my left breast and dissected it, all that was
> found was dead tissue and a lot of blood.
> >
> > Anyway, here is the Red Clover recipe:
> >
> > 1 Cup of Red Clover Herb
> > 1 gallon of bioling water
> >
> > Let the tea seep for about 20 minutes before refrigerating it.
> It's brown, but it has no taste at all, so you can tolerate drinking
> it for water if it's appearance doesn't bother you. Believe me, it
> works!
> >
> > For those of you who are (or know of someone who is) getting
> chemo treatments (which I couldn't tolerate after the second
> treatment), here's a recipe for the nausea:
> >
> > 1 can of frozen lemonade
> > 1 can of frozen limeade
> > 4 cans of distilled water
> > Refrigerate
> >
> > After a couple of sips, the nausea disappears.
> >
> >
> > Lots love & blessings,
> >
> > Lynn Tilmon
> >
> >
> > victor martinez <vmtz2001@> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I haven't been much of a participating member, though my wife's on
> the Dr. Clark parasite maintenance cleanse for her breast cancer. My
> head has been spinning with all the groups I belong to, and all the
> websites I have been checking out, but why I didn't start here, I
> don't know.
> >
> > I would like anyone in the know to explain to me a little about
> cancer tumors. When the Dr. Clark protocol kills the cancer cells,
> what happens to the tumor? Does the tumor disappear altogether, or
> just the cancer cells. My wife's mamogram and ultrasound indicated a
> 1.85mm tumor, which is smaller than two inches. However, in feeling
> it, it's the size of an apple. That could be because she's said to
> have cyst. Maybe a larger portion of the whole mass is cystic.
> There's a smaller attachment on top of the larger mass that I
> suspect is the cancer tumor. I'll have to ask the doctor about that.
> The reason I ask what happens to the tumor itself when the cancer is
> eliminated is that I find it strange that her biopsy took so long
> and had to be refered for a cell block. My hope was that the cells
> retained only part of the characteristics of cancer cells and had
> the pathologist stumped as to what exactly it was. But when the
> results came back it was low grade cancer, first stage,
> > but not DCIS, ductal Cancer insitu, which would mean it has spread
> out of the ducts. Hers has. I've read the Dr. Clark Parasite Cleanse
> eliminates cancer in 6 days, could it be that they didn't know what
> to make of the cancer? They claim it's clear cut cancer, yet the
> final results are still not in.
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Hi Victor,

   I will HIGHLY recommend ( I can't stress enough) to investigate all about
Alkaline nutrition!!!

   I will not go into much details here, but I'm sure you are overwhelm with
information from all directions ( I don't blame you, I will exactly the same).
But please check on Dr. Robert O. Young website about how acidity is the cause
of all diseases, including cancer. Please understand that I don't promote Dr.
Young for any economic reason, I just have being studying nutrition for some
time now and I'm totally convincend  of his findings (not only him, but many
others of which I'm sure many of you have heard of -- people who has been kept
in darkness - like Dr. Clark -- just because it is not in the interest of BIG
pharma!

   You can get a set of DVDs on Dr. Young's site explaining all about cancer and
how to get rif of it.

   The site:  www.phmiracleliving.com

   Then search for books, dvds and videos.

   I wll start with the video about Cancer, and then you can approach the healing
center for questions. I do this because I have seen a miracle following an
alkaline diet.

   All the best

   Ruth


Victor Martinez <vmtz2001@...> wrote:
           Lyn, I realize it's been a long time since your post on the red
clover, but does the red clover have to be fresh, whole clover, or
can it be the store-bought variety that is ground?

--- In DrClark@yahoogroups.com, Lynn Tilmon <ljtilmon@...> wrote:
>
> When I had breast cancer in 2003, I made red clover tea in a
gallon container, chilled in the refrigerator and drank it in place
of water. This herb stops cancer from spreading. Something was
telling me that I should have had another biopsy done, but my
oncologists wouldn't do it, saying that poking around in the tumor
may cause the cancer cells to spread. Here is what happened:
>
> When the removed my left breast and dissected it, all that was
found was dead tissue and a lot of blood.
>
> Anyway, here is the Red Clover recipe:
>
> 1 Cup of Red Clover Herb
> 1 gallon of bioling water
>
> Let the tea seep for about 20 minutes before refrigerating it.
It's brown, but it has no taste at all, so you can tolerate drinking
it for water if it's appearance doesn't bother you. Believe me, it
works!
>
> For those of you who are (or know of someone who is) getting
chemo treatments (which I couldn't tolerate after the second
treatment), here's a recipe for the nausea:
>
> 1 can of frozen lemonade
> 1 can of frozen limeade
> 4 cans of distilled water
> Refrigerate
>
> After a couple of sips, the nausea disappears.
>
>
> Lots love & blessings,
>
> Lynn Tilmon
>
>
> victor martinez <vmtz2001@...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I haven't been much of a participating member, though my wife's on
the Dr. Clark parasite maintenance cleanse for her breast cancer. My
head has been spinning with all the groups I belong to, and all the
websites I have been checking out, but why I didn't start here, I
don't know.
>
> I would like anyone in the know to explain to me a little about
cancer tumors. When the Dr. Clark protocol kills the cancer cells,
what happens to the tumor? Does the tumor disappear altogether, or
just the cancer cells. My wife's mamogram and ultrasound indicated a
1.85mm tumor, which is smaller than two inches. However, in feeling
it, it's the size of an apple. That could be because she's said to
have cyst. Maybe a larger portion of the whole mass is cystic.
There's a smaller attachment on top of the larger mass that I
suspect is the cancer tumor. I'll have to ask the doctor about that.
The reason I ask what happens to the tumor itself when the cancer is
eliminated is that I find it strange that her biopsy took so long
and had to be refered for a cell block. My hope was that the cells
retained only part of the characteristics of cancer cells and had
the pathologist stumped as to what exactly it was. But when the
results came back it was low grade cancer, first stage,
> but not DCIS, ductal Cancer insitu, which would mean it has spread
out of the ducts. Hers has. I've read the Dr. Clark Parasite Cleanse
eliminates cancer in 6 days, could it be that they didn't know what
to make of the cancer? They claim it's clear cut cancer, yet the
final results are still not in.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Is it safe to say that Rosacea is a fungul (like candida) infection, vs
a bacterial/viral pathogen?
I'm trying to help a friend who has this condition and has been drugged
beyond belief yet her conditioni keeps getting worse.
Diane



What is her dental health like?
Cavitations, root canals, amalgams?
My symptoms of rosacea disappeared after the dental cleanup and oral chelation
(Andy Cutler style).
I wonder what metal feeds the parasite that causes it?
She must not take ALA (alpha lipoic acid) in a once of dose.
No one should. It is the only flaw I have EVER found in Dr Clark's work.
Andy Cutler fills that chelation gap.
When you chelate do it in rounds taking the chelator every 3 hours (ALA) and 4
hours (DMSA) starting in low doses and buidling up over time
http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/healingnetwork/oral_chelation1.html
Get that poison (mercury) out your mouth and body.
Dean




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Lyn, I realize it's been a long time since your post on the red
clover, but does the red clover have to be fresh, whole clover, or
can it be the store-bought variety that is ground?

--- In DrClark@yahoogroups.com, Lynn Tilmon <ljtilmon@...> wrote:
>
> When I had breast cancer in 2003, I made red clover tea in a
gallon container, chilled in the refrigerator and drank it in place
of water.  This herb stops cancer from spreading.  Something was
telling me that I should have had another biopsy done, but my
oncologists wouldn't do it, saying that poking around in the tumor
may cause the cancer cells to spread.  Here is what happened:
>
>   When the removed my left breast and dissected it, all that was
found was dead tissue and a lot of blood.
>
>   Anyway, here is the Red Clover recipe:
>
>   1 Cup of Red Clover Herb
>   1 gallon of bioling water
>
>   Let the tea seep for about 20 minutes before refrigerating it.
It's brown, but it has no taste at all, so you can tolerate drinking
it for water if it's appearance doesn't bother you.  Believe me, it
works!
>
>   For those of you who are (or know of someone who is) getting
chemo treatments (which I couldn't tolerate after the second
treatment), here's a recipe for the nausea:
>
>   1 can of frozen lemonade
>   1 can of frozen limeade
>   4 cans of distilled water
>   Refrigerate
>
>   After a couple of sips, the nausea disappears.
>
>
>   Lots love & blessings,
>
>   Lynn Tilmon
>
>
> victor martinez <vmtz2001@...> wrote:
>           Hi,
>
> I haven't been much of a participating member, though my wife's on
the Dr. Clark parasite maintenance cleanse for her breast cancer. My
head has been spinning with all the groups I belong to, and all the
websites I have been checking out, but why I didn't start here, I
don't know.
>
> I would like anyone in the know to explain to me a little about
cancer tumors. When the Dr. Clark protocol kills the cancer cells,
what happens to the tumor? Does the tumor disappear altogether, or
just the cancer cells. My wife's mamogram and ultrasound indicated a
1.85mm tumor, which is smaller than two inches. However, in feeling
it, it's the size of an apple. That could be because she's said to
have cyst. Maybe a larger portion of the whole mass is cystic.
There's a smaller attachment on top of the larger mass that I
suspect is the cancer tumor. I'll have to ask the doctor about that.
The reason I ask what happens to the tumor itself when the cancer is
eliminated is that I find it strange that her biopsy took so long
and had to be refered for a cell block. My hope was that the cells
retained only part of the characteristics of cancer cells and had
the pathologist stumped as to what exactly it was. But when the
results came back it was low grade cancer, first stage,
> but not DCIS, ductal Cancer insitu, which would mean it has spread
out of the ducts. Hers has. I've read the Dr. Clark Parasite Cleanse
eliminates cancer in 6 days, could it be that they didn't know what
to make of the cancer? They claim it's clear cut cancer, yet the
final results are still not in.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Is it safe to say that Rosacea is a fungul (like candida) infection, vs
a bacterial/viral pathogen?

I'm trying to help a friend who has this condition and has been drugged
beyond belief yet her conditioni keeps getting worse.  She is not keen
on doing the gall bladder cleanse, but so far she has thought that the
colon cleanse was very successful and recently started the parasite
cleanse and does not like the herx effect, but believes it is helping.
In due time I will get her to start liver cleansing.

Diane

Dear group:

What follows was the conclusion to a prior piece that
I wrote. I thought it best that this conclusion be
expanded to become a stand-alone document, rather than
just a conclusion to one.

Allen

The possible implications of broad based nutrition
taken all at once

Dear group:

I am very disappointed in a medical model that
continues to prescribe "drugs and only drugs" for
bipolar disorder and ADHD. The medical model
apparently leaves it to those persons affected by such
illnesses (or their parents or other loved ones) to
find "common sense answers" such as that which my son
Willy used to become so profoundly well.

Thankfully, my son Willy has stumbled on to what may
be found to be "the healing idea of the century" some
day... that of "very broad based nutritional
supplementation taken all at once". (I call this
"Willy's baggie". Willy's baggie contains a wide array
of supplements to include broad based vitamins, broad
based minerals, broad based essential fatty acids,
broad based free form amino acids, the critical
nutrient combination of carnitine and phosphatidyl
choline, and a number of key and/or helpful cofactors
such as digestive enzymes, blue green algae,
spirulina, chlorella, coconut oil, querticin,
grapeseed extract, and milk thistle.).

The "common sense answer" (nutrients work in synergy
with each other, of course!) that Willy's baggie
represents, when coupled with the effective
administration of probiotics as well, certainly seems
to have generated one of the most profound mental and
physical health recoveries on the planet. It is
inevitable that this "common sense answer" (Willy's
baggie), in one version or another, will generate many
more profound health recoveries similar to that of my
son.

Incidentally, Willy's amazing ADHD and childhood
bipolar recovery was no accident. Despite the fact
that Willy himself "invented" the crucial key to his
own recovery by insisting that I put all of the
supplements that I thought would help him in to one
Ziplock bag for him to take "all at once", it was I
that had a pretty good idea of what to put in to this
baggie. (I have personally taken over 100,000 capsules
of free form amino acids and so much else
supplement-wise since 1997.)

I certainly admit to the fact that Willy's baggie is
not perfect. Very simply put, it is the best
combination of supplements that we have come up with
thus far. Willy's baggie could admittedly use some
refinement... either by "the experts" in nutritional
or biological science, or by other laypersons similar
to Willy and I (persons that simply purchase a wide
array of supplements and start combining them wisely,
and then report their results on the Internet).

Willy's "common sense answer" of "broad based
nutrition taken all at once" does not just apply
conceptually to bipolar disorder and ADHD. It also
happens to apply, at least conceptually, to the proper
treatment of depression (it is destined to make all
antidepressants obsolete). His "common sense answer"
also applies, at least conceptually, to the proper
resolution of almost all cases of substance abuse
(alcohol, cocaine, crack, heroin, etc.). His "common
sense answer" also applies to many physical
(degenerative) and mental illnesses (besides ADHD and
bipolar disorder) as well.

In addition to all of the above, Willy's "common sense
answer" applies, at least conceptually, to anti-aging.
Almost everyone that has ingested the Standard
American diet (S.A.D.) and is over forty or fifty
years of age is likely to have accumulated a number of
essential nutrient deficiencies. Willy's baggie, or a
close rendition thereof, represents a rather profound
intervention for such. I am of the opinion that many
people would live decades longer by the regular use of
"broad based nutrients taken all at once", assuming
such use was begun before "too much damage was done".
I also believe that many persons in their old age that
have used such (broad based nutrients) regularly for
years would not be as nearly health impaired as "the
norm" (vs. other persons their age).

And last but not least, Willy's baggie, or a close
rendition thereof, would shorten the recovery time
from almost any major surgery dramatically... as the
healing process is so nutrient dependent. The medical
model sure does not want this application of broad
based nutritional supplements to surgical recovery to
happen. Why not? Because it would almost assuredly
wake up the masses to the tremendous power of
"therapeutic nutrition applied properly", as well as
cut down on hospital stays (and thus medical revenue)
markedly.

In essence, Willy's baggie, or a close rendition
thereof, represents one key part (it is not the only
part, of course) of "a foundation healing therapy" to
recover (or retain) human health.

Although it may take decades to occur (revolutionary
new truths have historically taken decades to be
accepted), I cannot help but feel that millions of
persons will inevitably be thankful to my son. The
problem here of course is that modern medicine only
makes money from the prescription of drugs. Out of
fiscal self interest (involving many tens of billions
of dollars) modern medicine has to summarily ignore my
son Willy's amazing ADHD and bipolar recovery and all
of the invaluable lessons that it may have taught us.
The only hope for forward motion of my son Willy's
breakthrough discovery of "very broad based
nutritional supplementation taken all at once" may
have to come from private parties that are outside the
confines of drug oriented medicine altogether.

Incidentally, Willy's recovery is not the first major
contribution that I have tried to make to the world.
Seven years ago I had learned how to profoundly change
the level of virtually all of my neurotransmitters
naturally in less than a single day. (This
understanding is contained in the document titled
"Concepts and Ideas To Treat Depression Naturally".)
For the past seven years I could be suicidally
depressed at 8 o'clock in the morning and barely able
to get out of bed, and then as a result of a
self-applied natural therapy I could be fine in both
mood and function late in the afternoon of the very
same day. What I have known for the past seven years
in regard to the treatment of depression is inevitably
going to help millions of persons some day.

Unfortunately, I have yet to find any collaborative
help whatsoever, such that the significant new truths
that I have discovered as a layman are acted upon by
other persons that are capable of moving these
discoveries forward. Perhaps my son Willy's amazing
ADHD and childhood bipolar recovery story will soon
end this seven year impasse, such that some party (or
parties) will finally act appropriately on what I have
to say.

Sincerely,

Allen Darman

http://360.yahoo.com/allen_dar



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I too have had problems with psoriasis. What did you find that would help?
   thanks jc

Shannon Pridmore <spridmore@...> wrote:
           Does anyone know what Dr. Clark suggests for psoriasis? I have a
severe
case, have tried MANY things, and nothing has worked!!!! Thanks for any
input.

Shannon






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thanks a lot Christiana

david


--- In DrClark@yahoogroups.com, Abutilon <Abutilon@...> wrote:
>
> You can get it from SHRC Canada, in Toronto. They usually have some:
> 416.658.6125
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> Christiana
>
>

If you can find a Doctor that will do it,,-Several thousand mg of
Vitamin C IV drip.  Caught earlier it could possibly have been a cure.

            Have a Good Day Today
                           AND
             A Better Day Tomorrow

             Cotton--N. Central  Texas
----- Original Message -----
From: "tempo33x" <tempo33x@...>

Subject: [DrClark] Re: Terminally ill friend w/ adv. cancer - What to do?
Help!


Take a few thousand mg. of vitamin C daily, it's a weak immune
system at work, each cigarette uses up 25mg.  No problem with pipe
or cigar.



->
> --- In DrClark@yahoogroups.com, "Ken Bagwell" <kenancy2000@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have a casual friend (an older man, 70's, four years ex-
smoker)
> who I just found out is terminally ill with lung cancer which has
> spread to his bones.  He is at a local hospital, bedridden, and on
>

Take a few thousand mg. of vitamin C daily, it's a weak immune
system at work, each cigarette uses up 25mg.  No problem with pipe
or cigar.



--- In DrClark@yahoogroups.com, "ai3131" <ai3131@...> wrote:
>
> --- In DrClark@yahoogroups.com, "Ken Bagwell" <kenancy2000@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have a casual friend (an older man, 70's, four years ex-
smoker)
> who I just found out is terminally ill with lung cancer which has
> spread to his bones.  He is at a local hospital, bedridden, and on
> morphine for extreme pain.  He can still talk and is aware of
> everything, but he cannot get up or walk.
> >
> > I would just give his wife a copy of the Cure for All Advanced
> > Cancers, but am wondering if it might be better to contact
someone
> to talk to directly.  They have never heard of Dr Clark or her
> protocols, so it would be very difficult for me to get across the
> details of her therapy to them in a short time.
> >
> > Can anyone offer some serious suggestions or contact information?
> >
> > Many thanks,
> > -Ken Bagwell>
>
> Can he still get up to go to the bathroom?
>
> If so, cleaning out his colon just might make things easier by
> removing any toxins from the body that are helping the cancer to
> grow. In any case, changing the environment in which the cancer
> thrives is just as important as attacking the cancer itself.
>
> Your friend's case is not very common. All around the world one
can
> find pockets of people who smoke a pack every week or two and
still
> live in good health. Of course their health is diminished by all
that
> tar in their lungs, but tobacco isn't really as harmful as many
> believe. Rather it is the chemicals in commercial cigarettes that
are
> responsible for cancer; I know of a man that lives next door to my
> father and he, despite smoking a cigar every day, is about 70
years
> old and works at gardening on and off. So, the tobacco itself
isn't
> carcinogenic.
>
> If there is a way to remove those chemicals from his system, your
> friend has a chance. Thus I recommend that he clean out his colon
to
> get rid of at least one source of toxicity. Of course his doctors
> might object, but medicine isn't just what one learns at medical
> school.
>
> - Arian I.
>

Enjoy,
Misty L. Trepke
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/searching-alternatives

Herbs and Their Uses

http://www.anitasgarden.com/herb_uses.html

Balm- herpes, viral infections, tranquilizers, wound care.

Basil- intestinal parasites, acne, immune stimulant

Caraway- digestive

Catnip- digestive, colic, infection prevention.

Chamomile- digestive aid, ulcers, women's health, tranquilizers,
arthritis, infection prevention, immune stimulant.

Cinnamon- pain killer and infection prevention (sprinkled on wounds)

Clove- toothache, infection fighter

Cocoa- pick-me-up, asthma

Coriander- digestive aid, infection prevention

Dandelion- PMS, weight loss, high blood pressure, congestive heart
failure, cancer prevention, yeast infection.

Dill- urinary tract infection (bath).

Fennel- gas relief, prostate cancer

Garlic- powerful antibiotic, heart disease and stroke, diabetes,
cancer, lead poisoning.

Ginger- indigestion, abdominal cramping, colds and flu, arthritis,
heart disease and stroke.

Marjoram- herpes, cold sores

Mint- digestive aid, anesthetic, decongestant, infection prevention.

Oregano- cough remedy.

Parsley- congestive heart failure, breath freshener, bloating due to
PMS, allergies, fever.

Rosemary- food preservative, decongestant, infection prevention.

Sage- wounds, preservative, digestion, diabetes, sore throat.

Thyme- antiseptic, digestive aid, cough remedy.