I've done 9 of these flushes and every flush succeeded in making me feel
better and become more healthy :)  Taken according to Dr. Clark's
instructions the internal use of Epson salts didn't do me any harm.

Vince

>From: "Flower" <cosmickflower@...>
>Reply-To: DrClark@yahoogroups.com
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>I want to clean up the crap in my system and I've come across the liver
>cleanse using Epsom salts, olive oil and lemon juice.
>
>I want to know – is it safe to ingest Epsom salts?
>All the stuff I come across on the net describes Epsom salts for outer body
>use
>– can I drink it?
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>And has any one done this liver cleanse or another?
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They should use Hydrogen peroxide instead of bleach, it has the same
effect and is edible.

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wrote:
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> Hi Josephine, like Joe, my question is, what then is the
alternative?  Does this mean that we need to be a vegetarian to
avoid the unsafe bleach?  Does this also mean that we are not to eat
any fish?  Pardon the ignorance of these questions.   Thanks.  Amanda
>
> blazingsun11 <blazingsun11@y...> wrote:
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> --- In DrClark@yahoogroups.com, "setsail2" <setsail2@y...> wrote:
> > Hi Joe,
> I too was surprised to know that carrots have shrimp antigen,yet
if
> you have any kind of lymph node cancers stay away from them at
least
> until you cure your cancer and strengthen your immunity.Fish is a
> concern not only for the shrimp antigen but also according to Dr.
> Clark it also tests positive to the unsafe bleach and its
> contaminants.As soon as they are caught at the dock ,they are
dipped
> in bleach.Unless you catch your own fish and eat it within the 6
> hour time frame it will have shrimp antigen.I hope this helped.
> Josephine
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Magnets, Go to:  http://www.roaringlionpublishing.com

*Click bar on top: 'View all products'
scroll down to '3,950 gauss magnets' These are 4"x6"x1/2"  very
powerful, -I have a set.






--- In DrClark@yahoogroups.com, "setsail2" <setsail2@y...> wrote:
>
> Can anyone please help me out with a source of a 4" X 6" ceramic
> coated magnet of 3,000 to 5,000 gauss to polarize the body
northerly
> as described in Dr. Clark's book.  Thanks.
>
> Joe

Hi Josephine, like Joe, my question is, what then is the alternative?  Does this
mean that we need to be a vegetarian to avoid the unsafe bleach?  Does this also
mean that we are not to eat any fish?  Pardon the ignorance of these questions.
Thanks.  Amanda

blazingsun11 <blazingsun11@...> wrote:

--- In DrClark@yahoogroups.com, "setsail2" <setsail2@y...> wrote:
> Hi Joe,
I too was surprised to know that carrots have shrimp antigen,yet if
you have any kind of lymph node cancers stay away from them at least
until you cure your cancer and strengthen your immunity.Fish is a
concern not only for the shrimp antigen but also according to Dr.
Clark it also tests positive to the unsafe bleach and its
contaminants.As soon as they are caught at the dock ,they are dipped
in bleach.Unless you catch your own fish and eat it within the 6
hour time frame it will have shrimp antigen.I hope this helped.
Josephine
>


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Hi

See Dr Clark's books and www.huldaclark.net and www.drclark.com
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Hello all,

I am a new member.  I found your site looking for a good parasite
cleanse.  I know this is an old topic but if anyone could assist me
with a product I would greatly appreciate it.  I am completing a
colon cleanse and would like to start the parasite cleance
immediately after.

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Hi

I've done 23 liver cleanses during a 3 year period using the recipe (4
tablespoonss of epsom salts / 120 ml olive oil / 2 drops HCI / 170 ml pink
grapefruit juice - sqeeze from a fresh grapefruit / 15 drops black walnut hull
tincture / adn 720 ml water.)  You'd need the instructions from Dr Clark's book.
In my opinion it's not unsafe.  You need to make sure you are well cleaned up
from the parasite removal and zapping, or you can feel abit sick doing the liver
cleanse - that's just my experience.


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I want to clean up the crap in my system and I've come across the liver
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I want to know – is it safe to ingest Epsom salts?
All the stuff I come across on the net describes Epsom salts for outer body use
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thanks my brothers mother in law was brain dead this afternoon while I was
emailing.  I had given my brother copies of pages out of the gary null books and
the bible cure for cancer and the gary null cancer cd.  When my brother first
got sick I already had most of this infor and sent it right away. I had a book
the complete cancer cleanse but he did not follower he was sicker than I knew. 
but continued to work since he was self employed. The ink from the copiers Must
had given him lung cancer. The noni was the only reason he could eat so I know
it did help but he stopped after a 3 weeks.

The cantron has a web site peninhand.com and several others it takes a long time
to get on the cantron@yahoogroups.com  I agree with you a person can not count
on one thing.  My brother could not eat or drink anything they were draining out
8 quarts of fluids from his stomach. His doctor told him the spots on his liver
was nothing in March. We were changing his diet but my younger sister went for
to weeks and she did not know anything about nutrition. We have been
unsuccessful with sprots. I am concerned with both my parents and younger
brother are cancer suvirors and I keep telling them they have to change their
diets ... to no avail.  I got to run.

Thanks I will be in touch as so many friends at work have family that just found
out they have stage four cancer too.

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Can anyone please help me out with a source of a 4" X 6" ceramic
coated magnet of 3,000 to 5,000 gauss to polarize the body northerly
as described in Dr. Clark's book.  Thanks.

Joe

Hi

You have done the juices so you know what to do and the error was to
let them have control of him.  Now you have a second chance to do
good.

Your sister in law's mother can go to a cancer treatment centers of
america and call them and ask about nutrition and juicing for her.
If it is terminal the hospital doctors will release her.  Their chemo
and radiation is of course not the best solution probably.  You can
rebuild her or at least make her feel better.  Try the following and
also what I wrote before in another email and also Dr Schulze's
herbal products as well as superfood.

Regarding Cantron - I do not have direct experience with it but if it
does you guys good OK.  I never even heard of it.  But the following
email is an emphatic push to have you help her.  Do not let her fade
away.

OK...first thing you should stop trying to magic bullet your ills
even with so called natural or alternative substances.  They work to
a partial degree, but the major cause is that the cells of the body
are very weak in their construction because the foodstuffs and junk
that was put in, that has made up those cells in all the organs and
glands and nerves and bones and muscles etc etc are made of low
quality materials that do not have a quantity nor quality nor even a
half wide spectrum of nutrients that they and your cells are
supposeed to have.

See Nature's First Law book from a website of the same name.  Get the
book ASAP but even sooner, since you are in Michigan do the
following.

Start on the intense green high nutrition diet with seaweeds - not
just dulse but the kelp and kombu and wakame.  If you are near
Lansing or Ann Arbor or Detroit or maybe even Traverse City or Grand
rapids or in the south near Chicago or South Bend, then go to health
food natural food organic groceries.  Buy a Green Life juicer or
champion or whatever, and org carrots (which are anti cancer - see
Jethro Kloss' Back to Eden) and drink three quarts of juice a day and
handfuls of seaweed, and get Dr Schulze's superfood and get a
pesticide free chlorella and maybe same pesticide free spirulina and
eat MANY tablespoons ful each day of all three of these items plus
3-5 teaspoonsful of the powdered kelp and the same with the powdered
or flaked dulse and even get thru Frontier or Hlth Fd Store flaked
Irish Moss.

Do 5-8 different kinds of green leafy org veg's (NOT Cabbage in this
catagory but addl separate cabbage and carrot OK as a minor add on)
in a juice or a blender.

You must change the person's cells and then they will not be preyed
upon by the cancer.  You must also clean the colon - Try Dr Schulze's
#1 and #2  right away  1-800-herb-doc.  You must cleanse the liver
and you can start mildly with fresh squeezed grapefruit juice and
olive oil mabe 2 tblspoons of oil to a grapefruit of juice plus lots
of garlic and ginger.  Wait on the epsom salts until the person is
used to this a bit.  You can start with it 30 mins after 0r 10 mins
before your first juice this evening or this afternoon.

The greens will rebuild the blood by themselves or with the
superfood.  Red blood cell count goes up.  Nutrients in the blood
increase.  Therefore cells increase in abilities and immunity.  I
vouch for this!  This in itself will reduce the fungus.  Contact in
Utah Trace Minerals Research and get the DETOX 2 product which is
psyllium and other stuff and 10 kinds of friendly flora.  This along
with Schulze's stuff reduces the fungus.  Also a cheap zapper model
will remove fungus - use for even 20-30 mins in a row.

Do some food grade hydrogen peroxide only 3 drops in a big glass of
water.  Oregano oil helps.  But these magic bullets will not work
well unless you also improve the condition of the person;s body.

Disease and miscellaneous problems, not to mention the serious
cancer, is rampant in our society because the food is of such low low
low quality and lacks so many nutrients.

Do the juices and the wheatgrass juices.

If you can get the person to creative health institute near coldwater
in souther michigan, off I69 about 30 miles from Indiana border then
go with them there if you can afford it.  You will learn a lot about
the nutrition and get food made for you and a lot of wheatgrass and
rejuvelac and you will get to do enermas and wg implants.  I think it
costs $1100-1400 for two weeks and then it is $400 a week after
taking the training in the first two weeks.  It is a very supportive
environment.  You will have to go with the other person.

Contact Joel one of the program directors at 517-278-6260  They are
on the web.

Less expensive is to do it at home with green juices and wheatgrass.
You can also do it less expensively at Assembly of Yahweh Health
Center - similar but much smaller place in Eaton Rapids just south of
Lansing.  And you can get organic leafy vegs more there but not as
much wheatgrass.  Contact my friend Ms Hiawatha Cromer  517-663-1637.
  517-663-1637.  They also have a web presence under
Assemblyofyahweh.com and look under living foods and at bottom of
pages see other articles.

Get a juicer!!!!!!!  Do the large volume of juices mostly green - but
you can add the grapefruit and the orange and do grapes (See The
Grape Cure by Johanna Brandt avail thru Ehret Publishing Company)
and do pineapple fresh and do some carrot as it will build you folks
up and also when it warms up do the comfrey and alfalfa.

This will start curing the person from the first sip.  Make new cells
immediately and the body's DNA and energy pattern will do the rest.

See Raw Eating from Genesis Health Ministries - contact 517-663-1637
from Hiawatha if you don't see it on Hallaluyah Acres on the web.
But that is extra.  The books I referred on my other email are the
better ones to get  fast.  The juicing should be first.

If you have abig health food store with organic greens have them ask
them  pay them to make the juices right there from the dark greens
you buy or if they will not then get the greens home - make a
blenderful or juice - and get them to make whatever they can make for
you with as much green as possible that they will make.

The wg juice only lasts a few mins to a couple hours so have the
person drink it fast.

The person should get colonics once or twice a week and start with a
bunch of enemas the first two days.  As I said skin brush and
rebounder.

email me directly if you wish at louisryoshin@...

Lou







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>
> have you heard anything about cantron? are you in Michigan.  I just
> lost my brother to cancer in CA but my my sister in laws mother is
> now in the hospital with bone cancer. She had breast cancer over 10
> years ago and no one told her it would come back.  She told me that
> if someone told her it would come back she would had changed her
> diet. I had been going to all the family things trying to talk
> about health. No one would listen. They told her the back pain was
> from her gallbladder and they were going to remove it.  She told
> them not unless they are sure since they removed the wrong kidney
> several years ago. She found out it was stage four bone cancer and
> is not expected to make it threw this day. She is in MI as I am in
> MI.
>
> My friend form work husband was stage four lung cancer and she
> followed Dr Clark's book but did not tell me it was her book until
> I brought it in to work two weeks before my brother passed. She did
> tell me they did the parasite cleanse and went threw the house
> getting rid of anything that was bad for him and did apricot
> kernels just three a day and he was not to make it past 8 months
> and that was two years ago. But she was there to PUSH her husband
> my brother did not have anyone to really PUSH him. My sister that
> was there the longest at the end was told by vci to let him eat
> anything so all the work we did changing his diet to organic juices
> went out the door. She gave him ice cream and yogurt and pizza,
> eggs and can soup and packaged everything! He had a big swelling on
> the side of his face my mom told me after he died he needed a root
> canal there. He did have a bridge but lost it when he had two
> stints put in. And they were giving him alcohol baths! The last
> month.
>
>  my uncle saw dr clark in Oct and posted the link to her book but I
> missed it checking email on my phone.  I could not open the link
> then I forgot when I got to the computer.
>
> he only got the cantron two weeks before he past. He was only given
> it for one week if that because his daughter was unreliable. They
> double morephine patched him. That stops you from breathing. So we
> do not know if  cantron would had helped. But it sounds so good.  I
> brought the product home for myself because it works on other
> things besides cancer.
> Debbie
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> know why! Or are you  opened to increase your income visit
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have you heard anything about cantron? are you in Michigan.  I just lost my
brother to cancer in CA but my my sister in laws mother is now in the hospital
with bone cancer. She had breast cancer over 10 years ago and no one told her it
would come back.  She told me that if someone told her it would come back she
would had changed her diet. I had been going to all the family things trying to
talk about health. No one would listen. They told her the back pain was from her
gallbladder and they were going to remove it.  She told them not unless they are
sure since they removed the wrong kidney several years ago. She found out it was
stage four bone cancer and is not expected to make it threw this day. She is in
MI as I am in MI.

My friend form work husband was stage four lung cancer and she followed Dr
Clark's book but did not tell me it was her book until I brought it in to work
two weeks before my brother passed. She did tell me they did the parasite
cleanse and went threw the house getting rid of anything that was bad for him
and did apricot kernels just three a day and he was not to make it past 8 months
and that was two years ago. But she was there to PUSH her husband my brother did
not have anyone to really PUSH him. My sister that was there the longest at the
end was told by vci to let him eat anything so all the work we did changing his
diet to organic juices went out the door. She gave him ice cream and yogurt and
pizza, eggs and can soup and packaged everything! He had a big swelling on the
side of his face my mom told me after he died he needed a root canal there. He
did have a bridge but lost it when he had two stints put in. And they were
giving him alcohol baths! The last month.

  my uncle saw dr clark in Oct and posted the link to her book but I missed it
checking email on my phone.  I could not open the link then I forgot when I got
to the computer.

he only got the cantron two weeks before he past. He was only given it for one
week if that because his daughter was unreliable. They double morephine patched
him. That stops you from breathing. So we do not know if  cantron would had
helped. But it sounds so good.  I brought the product home for myself because it
works on other things besides cancer.
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Does anyone know how soon you can do another Gall Bladder Liver
cleanse after you do the first one.

Joe

Hi

I recommend you look into Ann Wigmore Centers in Michigan and Puerto
Rico and San Diego and Austin Texas   and also get books about
wheatgrass and raw and living foods...

Dr Clark has now discovered that Rose Hips that you can get in a
health food store - easiest is cut and sifted in jars from herb
companies - Frontier Brand will do - is better than regular ascorbate
and has no processing metals - look in The Little Herb Encyclopedia
book from health food stores - See the book by Linus Pauling, Vitamin
C and Cancer - many remissions - but it is not the whole treatment -

I have been taking Rose Hips cut and sifted chewing up the nice
natural cherry like flavored rose hips chips for years and it heals
me well.

Try Stanmar's Thyroid and other glandular treatment - in Midvale Utah
- they do mail order - have pretty good herbal tinctures.

--clear up the lymphatics in your body - see Life Extension Books by
Harvey Diamond - the third one talks all about lymphatic mess and
cancer.

Find out about healing this with herbs from Dr Richard Schulze's
website herbdoc.com  and 1-800-herb-doc, and Dr Christopher's
cleansing herbs formulas call 1-800 for The Herb Shop in Springville
Utah, get his little pamphlet books, get Schulze's big
catalog-educational book -  his formula Adrenetone also helps the
thyroid - they all come in bulk powder you can encapsulate or eat in
teaspoons fulll but tastes bad - or in capsules you get from them

eat a LOT of kelp powdered from Froniter brand in bulk or their
capsules see health food stores - also do bags of seaweed Kombu (a
kelp very high in calcium) and wakame and some dulse - eat TONS every
day - many handfuls - great for the thyroid with natural iodine and
rebuilds the body at a deep level - see Michael Tierra - herbalist -
his books from Hlth Fd Store.

Use as your foundation a raw and living food diet very very very
heavy on raw organic dark green LEAFY vegetables like kale (has a lot
of VIT C), collards, parsley, spinach, chards, cilantro, dark
lettuces, especially beet greens and very very expecially dandelion
greens.  Even Comfrey leaf from a garden -  you can even grow it
indoors - tons of it in Michigan - and Alfalfa from the fields.
Comfrey has alantoin that heals all the body cells and alfalfa has
tremendous mineral healing value - helps the heart and adrenals, too.
  If there is thyroid problems and there are other endocine glandular
weaknesses.

Use comfrey root powder and alfalfa powder from hlth FS if needed.

Get a green life juicer - see internet - for $400 invest for the rest
of your life - also get wire brushes from hardware store to clean it
better.  If you can do $200 or a little more get a Champion Juicer
but that requires cleaning after each big bunch of vegetables.  But
it is easier to clean than most juicers.  Jack LaLane's Juicer and
Juiceman juicer are OK.  If you get these then take the pulp in your
hand and squeeze the rest of the juice out of the moist pulp.

The green life makes the pulp dry because it gets more out and is
easier to use for juicing - less effort on your part - and you save
on the cost of the vegetables and even fruits you juice because it
gets 25-35 % more out.

If you cannot afford a good juicer than chop veggies up finely and
with distilled water put in a blender and make a mush and  eat.

Drink even two quarts of green juice a day - lasts for a couple of
days max - drink wheatgrass juice 2-4 oz a day but take it easy in
beginning and get yourself muscle tested for wg allergies.  do NOT
believe the hype that the wg juice is all you need and is soooo much
better than the dark greens.   In fact the wg juice works better I
believe from experience when alternated with large amounts of the
green juices.

Eat 5 bowls full of the mush a day.

Drink carrot juice freshly made from home or juice bar - bottled
stuff is already pasturized so enzymes are dead.

See Edward Howell's book Enzyme Nutrition.  Also Wheatgrass, Nature's
Finest Medicine by Steve Meyerowitz, also Ann Wigmore's The
Wheatgrass Book.  See their books on sprouting, too, as they tell you
what is good.  Clover sprouts are very high in calcium and magnesium.

You need enzymes in your food.  See anything you can on enzyme and
raw foods by Dr Kelley who was a dentist who cured his cancer with
that and with alkalinity for the tumor kind of cancer.  He was famous
in the 1960's.

ENZYMES enable the other remedies to do more - there's a better
powerful effect that I could feel.  Enzymes from fresh raw foods are
more effective I found than the powdered stuff. But if you eat cooked
food and if your pancreeas is weak - which Dr Kelley found is an
issue for cancer - then get the best you can and get tested for
effectiveness and compatibility to you.

For alkaline versus acid info see Mucousless Diet Healing System by
Prof Arnold Ehret thru HF Store books - CHEAP, and see the table he
references but do not eat the soy or coffee.  Look at the fruits and
vegs.  See the book Alkalize or die and the book acid and alkaline
which is macrobiotic in nature but gives a good chart.

green leaves have a lot of potassium and at Univ of Texas they found
cancer patients have too much sodium versus potassium.  Also, cancer
patients have too much acidic in their cells (citrus is alkaline) and
you need more alkalinity in the cell ash from raw fruits and
vegetables - change your terrain, do not just try to kill the
pathogens that live in the terrain.  People who have the longest
cures and best health regenerations improve their bodies.

Dandelion and Beet greens have the most magnesium of the greens which
the body uses to provide alkalinity and also improve calcium use and
also uses to remove pathogens.

These veg's have tremendous body rebuilding  and they have a lot of
beta carotene which is a safe way to heal the liver and provide the
body to make vit A which was found to work to heal cancer and has a
great effect on improving all the tissues.  greens also build the
adrenals.  Use the herbs for the adrenals rather than the glandulars
at least I think they are better and Dr Christopher was a very very
well accomplished herbalist and used the raw foods and herbs to heal
many many people.  So does Dr Schulze.

Also get The Bragg Healthy LIfestyle and their Miracle of Fasting
Book.  Paul and his daughter Patricia - still alive - were world
famous - as is Dr Schulze.

Also especially get Dr Norman Walker's inexpensive books from HF
Store, Become Younger and Fresh Veg and Fruit Juices.  Also get
Steven Bauer's The Juicing Book.  They both have info on the value of
many different fruits and veg's and combinations if you wish to
follow that.  Do not worry about RAW veg oxylic acid as it helps the
calcium but the cooked veg's like spinach and chard alter the
structure of the oxylic acid to inhibit the calcium, see Fresh Veg
and Fruit juices book by Walker.  He lived over 100 years.  Paul
Bragg lived to 93 and died in an athletic ocean accident.  Wigmore
lived very healthfully after curing her cancer and died in a fire at
age 84.

Get a mini trampoline and a skin brushing dry brush. Get The Golden
Seven Plus One from the Interbational Center for Lymphology in Utah -
author C. Samuel West - best book I have read ever on lymphatics
healing but also see the Harvey Diamond third book for lymphatics and
cancer. Read Paul Bragg's info they have many books.

Do NOT get trapped into thinking you have to do energy soups and only
the baby greens and sprouts from the Ann Wigmore program altho doing
their stuff as well as the dark leafy green juices and the sea weeds
and herbs makes a good help.

All of this will help you get healthier and then the parasite
cleanses from Dr Clark and the zapper are good.  Try looking on
google for other remedies when searching under hulda clark.  There
are herb companies and also fungus no more.  But the living foods and
dark greens are soooooo effective.

Good Luck,

Lou




--- sambndr <wondering101@...> wrote:

>
>
> Two weeks ago I was informed that I have thyroid cancer, I have
> started on Dr. Clarke herbs and am now at day 5. I would like to
> contact anyone who has actually been cured by following her system.
> I suppose I am looking for conformation that I am on the right
> tract. Thanks for your time, Roger (aka sambndr)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Am I understanding that carrots have shrimp antigen, which is bad for you? Am I
understanding that one should stay away from carrots if they have a auto-immune
problem?
I have had reactions to shellfish and I thought it might be the mercury (my eyes
almost swell shut). I try to only use organic carrots but that is not possible
all the time. I heard about them using chlorine on imported shrimp sometimes to
mask the odor and kill the bacteria.

Daniel

blazingsun11 <blazingsun11@...> wrote:

--- In DrClark@yahoogroups.com, "setsail2" <setsail2@y...> wrote:
> Hi Joe,
I too was surprised to know that carrots have shrimp antigen,yet if
you have any kind of lymph node cancers stay away from them at least
until you cure your cancer and strengthen your immunity.Fish is a
concern not only for the shrimp antigen but also according to Dr.
Clark it also tests positive to the unsafe bleach and its
contaminants.As soon as they are caught at the dock ,they are dipped
in bleach.Unless you catch your own fish and eat it within the 6
hour time frame it will have shrimp antigen.I hope this helped.
Josephine
> Is seafood, ie shellfish (shrimp,crab,oysters)as well as fish
> definitely out completely? Would
> food zapping on seafood suffice? I have cut most red meats out of
my
> diet and had previously gone to seafood, but Clark's new book
appears
> to be against it. Could anyone explain food antigens (shrimp
antigen)?
> I don't understand how shrimp antigens could be in some vegetables.
> Otherwise I eat mainly veggies. I'm sorry if I appear clueless,
but I
> but I am fairly new in trying to impliment many of her
> protocols. Thanks.
>
> Joe


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Yes, It is alright to drink, I and my son have done that cleanse, -
very good.


--- In DrClark@yahoogroups.com, "Flower" <cosmickflower@y...> wrote:
>
>
> I want to clean up the crap in my system and I've come across the
liver
> cleanse using Epsom salts, olive oil and lemon juice.
>
> I want to know – is it safe to ingest Epsom salts?
> All the stuff I come across on the net describes Epsom salts for
outer body use
> – can I drink it?
>
> And has any one done this liver cleanse or another?
>
> Thanks!

Look for a different cleanse, there must be others that are simpler.



-- In DrClark@yahoogroups.com, Karyn Witzel <witzelk@y...> wrote:
> Unfortunately there is really no way to get around the sheer
amount of pills you have to take - I added them up one day and
calculated that on the heaviest days I was taking around 265 pills!
Dr. Clark recommends opening up the capsules and mixing them with
the first few bites of your meal but I found there was no amount of
food that could absorb all that.  Even if you used your entire meal,
it was just way too much.  I personally found it was easier to just
swallow them a few at a time in pill form.
>
> He just has to take it at his own pace and not beat himself up if
he is not right on schedule.  Everything he is doing is good!  My
day was off the whole time I did it because the high doses of
glutathione made me so nauseus that after taking it I usually could
not do anything more for the next 3 hours than lay in bed and try
not to get sick.  The last thing I wanted to do was take them all
over again!  So that would throw off my whole day to the point where
I was often just finishing my daily routine around 1am.  Which
certainly didn't help in the sleep department.
>
> I did try to count out all the pills at night before I went to bed
so they were ready for me the next day.  Just doing all of that was
so time consuming and having them ready made me feel a bit more on
top of things.  I bought a few small plastic pill containers, each
had a different colored cap so I could use one for breakfast pills,
one for lunch, etc.
>
> Good luck - it's hard but it's worth it.
>
> Karyn
>
> PS - This is probably a stupid question but what is a dh?
>
> azrainstorm <az_rainstorm@h...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Thank you so much for all the responses. My dh is the one with
> cancer. The doctors are categorizing it as colon cancer. We
decided
> to start the 21 day program. There are so many pills. He is taking
> about 100+ a day. Is there an easier way to get these pills down?
It
> has been just over a week and a half and he can't stand to take
them.
> Any ideas are welcome. Thanks!
>
> Colleen G.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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I'm not sure if you're talking to me?
When cancer returns no matter where, it is automatically stage 4.
Mine came back in my lung, not breast

C
- In DrClark@yahoogroups.com, FoxEskimoDogs <foxeskimo@y...> wrote:
>
> it was breast cancer the mother of my sister law had
> 10 years ago and came back in the bones so it doesnt
> always come back in the same place. How did it get to
> stage 4 in the same place? How did they miss it? Are
> you going to mexico? Have tried appricot kernals?
> Cantron? I still dont know if cantron works with the
> parsite cleanse maybe after? Bless you debbie
>
> =====
>
>
>

--- In DrClark@yahoogroups.com, "setsail2" <setsail2@y...> wrote:
> Hi Joe,
I too was surprised to know that carrots have shrimp antigen,yet if
you have any kind of lymph node cancers stay away from them at least
until you cure your cancer and strengthen your immunity.Fish is a
concern not only for the shrimp antigen but also according to Dr.
Clark it also tests positive to the unsafe bleach and its
contaminants.As soon as they are caught at the dock ,they are dipped
in bleach.Unless you catch your own fish and eat it within the 6
hour time frame it will have shrimp antigen.I hope this helped.
Josephine
> Is seafood, ie shellfish (shrimp,crab,oysters)as well as fish
> definitely out completely? Would
> food zapping on seafood suffice? I have cut most red meats out of
my
> diet and had previously gone to seafood, but Clark's new book
appears
> to be against it. Could anyone explain food antigens (shrimp
antigen)?
> I don't understand how shrimp antigens could be in some vegetables.
> Otherwise I eat mainly veggies. I'm sorry if I appear clueless,
but I
> but I am fairly new in trying to impliment many of her
> protocols. Thanks.
>
> Joe

wy dad could not keep his blood surgar below 300 with
insline. When he started with the noni i gave him its
almost half! He still takes his insuline sp when he
runs out it goes back up. Seniorruss@... ask him!
He doesnt exerise much. Debbie

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I want to clean up the crap in my system and I've come across the liver
cleanse using Epsom salts, olive oil and lemon juice.

I want to know – is it safe to ingest Epsom salts?
All the stuff I come across on the net describes Epsom salts for outer body use
– can I drink it?

And has any one done this liver cleanse or another?

Thanks!

Hello all,

I am a new member.  I found your site looking for a good parasite
cleanse.  I know this is an old topic but if anyone could assist me
with a product I would greatly appreciate it.  I am completing a
colon cleanse and would like to start the parasite cleance
immediately after.

Thanks

Sala

Two weeks ago I was informed that I have thyroid cancer, I have
started on Dr. Clarke herbs and am now at day 5. I would like to
contact anyone who has actually been cured by following her system.
I suppose I am looking for conformation that I am on the right
tract. Thanks for your time, Roger (aka sambndr)

dh = dear husband or darn husband. Depends on your mood.

Were you on the 21 day program for cancer?

Colleen

--- In DrClark@yahoogroups.com, Karyn Witzel <witzelk@y...> wrote:
> Unfortunately there is really no way to get around the sheer amount
of pills you have to take - I added them up one day and calculated
that on the heaviest days I was taking around 265 pills!  Dr. Clark
recommends opening up the capsules and mixing them with the first few
bites of your meal but I found there was no amount of food that could
absorb all that.  Even if you used your entire meal, it was just way
too much.  I personally found it was easier to just swallow them a
few at a time in pill form.
>
> He just has to take it at his own pace and not beat himself up if
he is not right on schedule.  Everything he is doing is good!  My day
was off the whole time I did it because the high doses of glutathione
made me so nauseus that after taking it I usually could not do
anything more for the next 3 hours than lay in bed and try not to get
sick.  The last thing I wanted to do was take them all over again!
So that would throw off my whole day to the point where I was often
just finishing my daily routine around 1am.  Which certainly didn't
help in the sleep department.
>
> I did try to count out all the pills at night before I went to bed
so they were ready for me the next day.  Just doing all of that was
so time consuming and having them ready made me feel a bit more on
top of things.  I bought a few small plastic pill containers, each
had a different colored cap so I could use one for breakfast pills,
one for lunch, etc.
>
> Good luck - it's hard but it's worth it.
>
> Karyn
>
> PS - This is probably a stupid question but what is a dh?
>
> azrainstorm <az_rainstorm@h...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Thank you so much for all the responses. My dh is the one with
> cancer. The doctors are categorizing it as colon cancer. We decided
> to start the 21 day program. There are so many pills. He is taking
> about 100+ a day. Is there an easier way to get these pills down?
It
> has been just over a week and a half and he can't stand to take
them.
> Any ideas are welcome. Thanks!
>
> Colleen G.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Read Testimonials:
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Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 1:03 AM
Subject: Codex strikes Europe and will soon take away your suppliments as
well!


> Dear Mr Ehlers,
>
> I am writing you again over my concern with CODEX and the inhibition to a
> natural industry I and the others on the lists you see I have copied in on
> this letter depend.  I see that it is moving ahead in Europe and I assume
it
> will soon be attempted here as well.  Here is an example via a link.
> http://rense.com/general61/EWUi.htm
>
> This change would be of very grave nature to many Americans.  Please note
> also, that even though "replying all" directly to this email would be
> blocked as SPAM, I have included all of these groups, so you would be
aware
> that I am making certain each will receive this letter, as well as any
> response you and the other representatives I write, send back.  This
message
> and your response will be literally reaching tens of thousands of people
> with direct interest in the subject.  I (and I am certain, the others I am
> including in this email), would really appreciate it if you would take the
> time to give us a reasonable reply and not a  standardized form letter or
> other over simplified, propaganda based answer.
>
> As well, remember we are an aging population and should be allowed to
decide
> for ourselves what we wish to do to sustain our health, not be dictated to
> by the pharmachem industry.  It is obvious to anyone who examines the
> situation that the pharmachemical industry care far more about their
profit
> than our health or free choice.  I pray we the American people can count
on
> your support and opposition to the phamachemical industries attempts to
> steal these valuable materials from us, so they can restrict us to their
> synthetic poisons.  Most Americans understand that their goal is the
> synthetics they sell make them rich at the expense of our pocket books and
> health.  Any reasonable person must also take into account the continually
> rising cost of health care in this country and the likelihood that being
> restricted to ONLY patented materials will only accelerate that negative
> trend, leaving many Americans with no medical care or alternative what so
> ever.  Natural substances provide us with a means to remain healthy, thus
> not enhancing the possibility of not needing the synthetic materials that
> cost our society and health so dearly.
>
> Please also note, that though a few negative reactions may occur with
> natural materials, (which have sustained humanity for most of it's
history),
> many more deaths and dire effects occur each year from pharmachemicals
than
> all of the herbal and vitamin based materials put together.  Aspirin alone
> kills more people each year than all of herbal materials taken together.
> If you add into that the deaths and consequences of synthetic drugs like
> Vioxx, Celabrex, Naproxen or other of the many diverse materials supplied
by
> the pharmachemical industry we constantly hear made it through the FDA
(with
> the aid of money and pressure I am sure) into the lives and deaths of
> millions of people world wide natural materials are far safer.
>
> It must be further realized that natural materials are unpatentable and
> therefore they will not be researched by the pharmachemical industry or
any
> other group, as there would be no way to recoup the expense of the
research.
> Thus they would become illegal simply because the research to prove their
> value will never be done.  I am sure this is one of the major goals of the
> pharmachemical industry with the goal being to force us to the products on
> which they grow rich.
>
> I also realize that you may very well (or may not) receive a large amount
of
> political and finical support from the AMA and the Pharmacutical industry
> (for example Pfizer), please be aware we the people are watching and will
> hold anyone ignoring or opposing our interests, accountable come election
> time.
>
> Thank you very much for your time and help.
>
> Mark Jones
>
>
> Dear Mr. Ehlers,
>
> Thank you for taking the time to reply to me.  While I agree that there
can
> be some mishap with natural substances .... In fact my consistent reply to
> folks who say "It's safe, It's all natural" is ... "So is strychnine,
> rattlesnake poison, and  botulin toxin, want some"?  I've had to
reconsider
> that last one since the introduction of Botox for wrinkles, but so far no
> one has ever taken me up on the offer :-) .  One can overdose on water if
> one consumes enough of it to upset the ion balance of the nervous system,
> but let's be realistic.  Even considering the 16 or so deaths a year from
> ephedra
> can any of the prescription drugs or OTC's claim that level of safety?
More
> people die from aspirin than all of the herbal materials put together.
Last
> I heard there were 130,000,000 users of herbal and vitamin materials.  Do
> you honestly believe that any prescription drug or OTC can claim an
> equivalent level of safety?  Efficacy could be another story, but again
that
> is a personal choice.  My experience is that most supplement users are
using
> them "IN ADDITION" to medical treatment, not instead of medical treatment.
>
> I am sorry to belabor the point and bother you once again.  I do not
expect
> a reply yet again.  I just wanted to make a further point on the way I
feel
> to the response you sent me.  And I do truly appreciate the reply.  Thank
> you for your time.
>
> Mark Jones
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rep. Ehlers" <mi03ima.pub@...>
> To: <grgeek@...>
> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 8:37 AM
> Subject: Reply
>
> > Mark Jones
> > 1073 Cogswell
> > Grand Rapids, Michigan  49544-2818
> >
> > Dear Mark,
> >
> > Thank you for contacting me regarding dietary
> > supplements.  I appreciate your willingness to share your thoughts.
> >
> > The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is responsible
> > for regulating dietary supplements.  To some, the FDA has not
> > regulated these products enough.  They cite examples of problems
> > caused by the use of Ephedra, a supplement used for weight loss
> > and body building.  However, others argue that the Dietary
> > Supplement Health and Education Act (DSHEA) established an
> > effective way for the FDA to regulate supplements, and that the
> > supplements are safe, especially when judged against other
> > regulated products, such as prescription drugs.  To address these
> > concerns, in January 2000, the FDA issued a 10-year plan that
> > outlines its strategy for the regulation of dietary supplements.  This
> > goal of this plan is to have a scientifically-based regulatory
> > program in place by the year 2010 in order to provide consumers
> > with a confidence in the safety, composition and labeling of
> > supplements.
> >
> > Congress is reviewing the FDA's plan and considering
> > several proposals to change the regulation of dietary supplements.
> > Some proposals would establish additional standards for reporting
> > adverse reactions to dietary supplements (S. 722 and H.R. 3377).
> > Another proposal would provide additional funding for the full
> > implementation of DSHEA (S. 1538).  As I consider these
> > proposals, I will be mindful of provisions that could inhibit dietary
> > supplement availability and the need to promote safety.  I will keep
> > your thoughts in mind.
> >
> > Thank you again for contacting me.  With best wishes, I am
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Vernon J. Ehlers
> > Member of Congress
> >
> >
> Hello,
>
> Take a look at these pages.  The Government is taking aim at the
supplement
> industry again and this time the seem to mean business.  If they succeed
we
> will lose the natural materials and how much further can the other goodies
> we are using to sustain ourselves with be behind them?  Please write
> congress and oppose the new bill.  I have written my representatives.  I
am
> looking for other groups where I can post this message.  Please repeat
this
> warning and urge anyone or group you know of that use supplements to
> petition congress to preserve our ability to economically access these
gifts
> from God.  Don't let them slip this one by under the radar, as they are
> currently attempting to do.
>
> http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig5/schroder5.html
>
http://www.puritan.com/house/actionalert.asp?xs=4751FC7310674E0B860F1F730E9AC575\
&sc=0&edid=
> http://capwiz.com/nnfa/issues/alert/?alertid=4089036
>
> If you live in New York might I suggest that you please write Ms. clinton
> some hate mail (election wise) in the hopes she will feel the threat to
her
> re-election prospects if she proceeds as one of the prime movers of this
> bill which she is at the present time.  Everyone, PLEASE let your
> representatives know that we will hold them accountable if they support
such
> sneaky activity.
>
> Be aware that the AMA and drug industry are powerful lobbies and this is
in
> their interest so we must act now to protect our access.  There was an
issue
> of JAMA entirely dedicated to supplements 3-5 years ago where they
lamented
> that supplements were the number two form of self paid, elective medicine
in
> America.  They even admitted in that article that many of the natural,
(and
> therefore, UN-PATENT-ABLE) materials WORK BETTER OR AS WELL AS AND ARE
SAFER
> THAN PRESCRIPTION DRUGS.  They seemed to perceive that as an even greater
> threat with several suggestions on how to suppress vitamins and herbal
> materials in the public sector.  They proposed to lobby congress to do
> exactly this type of move in that article to deny us access to them and
> drive that business to the traditional medical community and prescription
> drugs.  Please don't let them get away with it.
>
> Thank you for your time and PLEASE HELP!
>
> Mark (grgeek
>
>
>

Unfortunately there is really no way to get around the sheer amount of pills you
have to take - I added them up one day and calculated that on the heaviest days
I was taking around 265 pills!  Dr. Clark recommends opening up the capsules and
mixing them with the first few bites of your meal but I found there was no
amount of food that could absorb all that.  Even if you used your entire meal,
it was just way too much.  I personally found it was easier to just swallow them
a few at a time in pill form.

He just has to take it at his own pace and not beat himself up if he is not
right on schedule.  Everything he is doing is good!  My day was off the whole
time I did it because the high doses of glutathione made me so nauseus that
after taking it I usually could not do anything more for the next 3 hours than
lay in bed and try not to get sick.  The last thing I wanted to do was take them
all over again!  So that would throw off my whole day to the point where I was
often just finishing my daily routine around 1am.  Which certainly didn't help
in the sleep department.

I did try to count out all the pills at night before I went to bed so they were
ready for me the next day.  Just doing all of that was so time consuming and
having them ready made me feel a bit more on top of things.  I bought a few
small plastic pill containers, each had a different colored cap so I could use
one for breakfast pills, one for lunch, etc.

Good luck - it's hard but it's worth it.

Karyn

PS - This is probably a stupid question but what is a dh?

azrainstorm <az_rainstorm@...> wrote:


Hi,

Thank you so much for all the responses. My dh is the one with
cancer. The doctors are categorizing it as colon cancer. We decided
to start the 21 day program. There are so many pills. He is taking
about 100+ a day. Is there an easier way to get these pills down? It
has been just over a week and a half and he can't stand to take them.
Any ideas are welcome. Thanks!

Colleen G.








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I have just posted a couple new cancer recovery stories and other
information at the members area at
http://www.royalrife.com/members/indexm.html .  To access this area use
rifer for the member name and fedfree for the password.

Richard Loyd

Hi,

Thank you so much for all the responses. My dh is the one with
cancer. The doctors are categorizing it as colon cancer. We decided
to start the 21 day program. There are so many pills. He is taking
about 100+ a day. Is there an easier way to get these pills down? It
has been just over a week and a half and he can't stand to take them.
Any ideas are welcome. Thanks!

Colleen G.

Now is the time to contact your government representatives and let
them know you do not agree with this, whether you are in Europe or in
the US- because we are next...
Comments?
Misty L. Trepke
http://www.searching-alternatives.com

EU Rules Threatening To Sweep Away Vitamin Pills
By Gaby Hinsliff
Political Editor
The Observer - UK
12-25-4

www.rense.com


Vitamin supplements used by thousands of Britons, from pregnant women
to people warding off winter colds, are to be swept from shop shelves
from the new year under controversial European Union safety
regulations.

Carole Caplin, former style adviser to Cherie Blair, will front a
last-ditch campaign next month to get the directive on food
supplements overturned.

It would affect up to 5,000 products, including best-sellers such as
Solgar's Pre-Natal Nutrients tablets, taken by pregnant and
breastfeeding women; and VM-2000 multi-nutrient pills, a compound of
antioxidants. Megadose vitamins, such as the high-strength vitamin C
tablets taken by many to stave off coughs and sniffles, are also
under threat, with new safety standards to be issued separately early
next year.

Campaigners will take their fight to the European courts in January.
However, they say some manufacturers have begun withdrawing from the
legal challenge or started reformulating supplements to ensure they
comply by August, when the directive will become law.

'We have got to do everything we can to put pressure on the British
government, otherwise British consumers who have used these products
for 40 or 50 years will lose out,' said Sue Croft of the pressure
group, Consumers for Health Choice.

'People are using supplements as an insurance policy to keep
themselves well. I'm not saying vitamins are a cure-all, but as a
measure to keep somebody in good health, they work.

'If it's safe, you should be allowed to use it; therefore I cannot
understand why the British government is not fighting our corner.'

She said campaigners were also worried about the threat to megadose
vitamins. 'We have a vitamin culture here, and we do take these high-
strength nutrients where good science supports them. That could be 3g
of vitamin C for example, where on the continent the highest dose you
can get in some countries is 200mg.'

One in three women takes some form of health food supplement,
particularly during pregnancy or menopause, as does one in four men.

Caplin, who regularly recommends alternative remedies to clients, is
understood to have lobbied the Prime Minister personally.

She has also publicly accused the Health Minister, Melanie Johnson,
of showing a 'distinct lack of care and interest' in the issue. Peter
Hain, the Leader of the Commons, who has a longstanding interest in
alternative therapies, is also understood to have raised objections
to the directive, which he has described as 'heavy-handed'. Some 180
MPs have signed a Commons motion expressing 'grave concern' that
pills and powders in common use are to become illegal.

The Food Supplements Directive in effect outlaws health food
preparations containing ingredients not on its 'positive list' of
permitted substances. Manufacturers prepared to draw up a detailed
scientific dossier arguing that their ingredients are proven to be
safe are allowed an extension until 2008.

Campaigners say the 'agreed' list was simply borrowed from one drawn
up for baby foods, and there is no evidence any of the ingredients
are unsafe for adults. They argue Britain is suffering from a culture-
clash with continental countries, which traditionally treat vitamins
as akin to medicines. In Greece they are usually obtained through
pharmacists, while a 'megadose' of vitamin C in Italy can be only one-
tenth as strong as one in Britain.

A Department of Health spokeswoman said: 'We want to protect public
health while keeping wide consumer choice.'

Many doctors are sceptical about megadose vitamins, arguing that a
healthy diet meets most people's needs.


Guardian Unlimited © Guardian Newspapers Limited 2004

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/politics/story/0,6903,1379780,00.html

Diatomaceous Earth: The "Silver Bullet"

by Howard Garrett

Not long ago, I started talking about diatomaceous earth as an
insecticide. Boy, was I a genius. This stuff had only been around
since near the beginning of time. It's been nature's insecticide
since than and its other uses are many. So why haven't the
university systems and all the gardening experts been recommending
it for years?

More recently I started talking about using natural DE as a food
supplement for animals. The results are almost too good to believe -
even for me, and the question again comes up - why am I the only one
recommending this stuff? Seems like the vets should be extolling the
virtues of DE from the highest hills.

Undaunted ( hard headed might be a better choice of words), I wrote
about DE in the Dallas Morning News and when I started the gardening
show at WBAP, it was the main topic of conversation. So much so that
my boss told me that show was getting a little boring from talking
about DE every call. I didn't ask the questions - just answered them.

Natural diatomaceous earth (DE for short) is the remains of
microscopic one-celled plants (phytoplankton) called diatoms that
lived in the oceans that once covered the western part of the United
States and other parts of the world. Huge deposits were left behind
when the water receded. They are now mined and have several
important uses in toothpaste, beer filtering, and swimming pool
filters. DE is approximately 3% magnesium, 86% silicon, 5% sodium,
2% iron and many other trace minerals such as titanium, boron,
manganese, copper and zirconium.

Natural DE also makes a very effective natural insecticide. The
insecticidal quality of DE is due to the razor sharp edges of the
diatom remains. When DE comes contact with the insects, the sharp
edges lacerate the bugs' waxy exoskeleton and then the powdery DE
absorbs the body fluids causing death from dehydration. Said more
simply, DE kills insects by drying then up. You'll see how drying DE
is if you handle it with bare hands.

There is no residual danger of contamination. In fact, DE is
actually beneficial to the soil. It's loaded with trace minerals.
However, there are a few precautions. Diatomaceous earth is very
dusty and can cause lung problems if breathed heavily, so when
applying it dry always wear a good dust mask or stand up wind. The
second precaution is that DE sold for swimming pool filters is
ineffective for insect control because it has been heated and
chemically treated. It won't kill insects and it is very dangerous
to breathe. Finally natural DE will kill beneficial insects too, so
use it sparingly to kill problem infestations of harmful insects and
don't use it too often.

Diatomaceous earth can be applied in a variety of ways. to use for
flea and tick control, apply a light dusting over the lawn, in dog
runs, around pet bedding or favorite resting spots and sprinkle a
little on your pet between baths of a mild herbal soap. Avoid Dips
and soaps containing chemical insecticides. It's also a good idea to
avoid soaps that contain ammonium laurel sulfate. It's used to make
good studs but it is a skin irritant. Check out your own soap and
tooth paste while you're at it.

The best way to apply the dust over a large area is with a light
weight apparatus such as Dustin' Mizer, Spritzer or other similar
blowers. Applying by hands can be done but wastes a lot of material
and will dry your skin. To apply with water, mix 1/4 cup of DE in a
gallon of water and apply to the lawn and/or shrubs where pest
problems exist. It doesn't hurt insects until it dries out.

One of the best uses of DE is to add it to animal food - pets or
livestock. When used at 1% to 2% of the food volume, it controls
internal parasites, increases digestion and provides valuable trace
minerals. You will usually see an overall increase in health of any
animals fed DE on a regular basis.

Here are some of the common questions I get on natural diatomaceous
earth.

Is DE dangerous to my pets, me or my family?
Since DE is dusty and abrasive, it can cause lung damage if breathed
heavily. remember, however, that breathing any dusty materials can
be dangerous. be sure to wear a dusk mask if applying with a dry
blower. Mixing into a water spray eliminates most of these problems.
DE will not hurt earthworms or beneficial soil microorganisms. DE is
one of the few pesticides in the world classified as non-toxic,
although I'm not real comfortable with the classification. I think
anything can be toxic if over used or misused.

How much DE should I feed my animals?
Some of the feeding rations suggested by suppliers and users
include: 1-2% by weight of DE in ground, dry feed. 5% by weight in
stored grain. 5 ounces ( one cup) daily ration for horses. one
tablespoon per day for large dogs (over 55 lb.). One teaspoon per
day for small dogs, cats and puppies.

Does spraying DE in a wet solution work as well as the dry dust?
The wet spray method does work but only after the liquid had dried.
Mix from 1-4 tablespoons DE per gallon of water and spray on the
lawn, shrubs, tree trunks and building foundations. When the mixture
dried, it has the same abrasive and dehydrating powers as the
original dry dust. When sprayed wet the material covers the foliage
and other surfaces better than dusting dry, thus giving better
insect control. It seems to last longer when applied wet, but the
dry application is usually more effective at killing insects
quickly. DE has no insect killing power while it is wet.

Can I mix DE with other sprays?
Yes, it can be mixed with other organic products such as seaweed,
fish emulsion, garlic tea, and biostimulants. it would be silly to
mix DE with chemical insecticides. In fact, it's silly to use
synthetic toxic pesticides for anything.

Is DE registered by the EPA and labeled for insect control?
Yes! Some people would have you believe that DE is untested,
unlabeled and therefore unsafe for use. That's just one of the
feeble arguments left to the organiphobes. DE has been used for
years in the food processing industry to treat stored gains to
eliminate weevil and other insect infestations. There are currently
dozen of registrations of DE with the EPA for various insecticidal
and food supplement uses. DE, with and without pyrethrins and
piperonyl butoxide, is registered and labeled for fleas, ants,
roaches and many other pests.
Piperony butoxide (PBO) is a synthetic synergism that is added to
increase the killing power of the product. I do not recommend it for
any use. Those wanting to avoid it can mix pure pyrethrum and DE
together at a 25% -75% ratio. Pyrethrum products that are available
include Natural Guard and ECOsafe . There is approximately 1%
pyrethrin in natural pyrethrum powder. Pyrethroids are synthetic
insecticides. They do not resemble natural pyrethrum and should not
be used.