From: purgould <purgould@...>
Subject: [DoreProgram] Re: testing
To: DoreProgram@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 1:00 PM

Hi Rebecca,

I am very interested in the reading program you describe. My son finished Dore about 1 1/2 years ago, during his freshman year in college. When he first finished, he thought it helped, but this year has been extremely difficult for him--both getting his work done on time, and particularly reading. His work is very good, but he's almost always behind, he continues to procrastinate, he often has trouble following what's going on in class discussions, and he can never finish his reading.

We all realize that college reading is different from reading a novel, but it's really agony for him. He's very slow and he has a hard time skimming for information. I notice that he doesn't even read easy things like emails (mine, of course!)or short articles. Writing is also very difficult. He's actually an excellent writer, but it takes him a very long time to put his thoughts together (once he gets himself to start, that is).

I'm very happy to read that Dore is helping school-aged students, but what about college students, who have different needs and who then need to apply their college skills to the working world? My son is really hard on himself, which makes it doubly stressful on him. A good reading program might help, but I'm not sure the improvements that seemed to have happened with Dore have been retained. In fact, they seem to have fled.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Jane Gould

--- In DoreProgram@ yahoogroups. com, Rebecca Goniwich <rgoniwich@. ..> wrote:
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> Hi Norma,
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> I wish Hallowell did take medicade or any kind of insurance but they do not. Feel free to phone me to discuss further. I am pretty sure your unit only has the 5 protocols but how you check is if your unit has 2 different optimal proformance protools. I believe it say optimal proformance I and optimal profromance II.
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> We were just trained on this really cool reading program. They say it is the top of the paramid meaning when you are done with Dore and listening then you would want to try it. I can't wait to start my son on it and see how he does. It was really amazing to see how bad I did on the testing. Since Dore and listening I can read better but I still hate it. In this testing it tracks how you read and where your eyes go if you skip around, if you read and re-read a line and how long you fixate on each word.
>
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> More on the reading program as we figure it all out.
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> Hope all is well with all of you,
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> xo Rebecca
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From: Rebecca Goniwich <rgoniwich@...>
Subject: [DoreProgram] testing
To: "doreprogram@yahoogroups.com" <doreprogram@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 10:41 PM

Hi Norma,
 
I wish Hallowell did take medicade or any kind of insurance but they do not.  Feel free to phone me to discuss further.  I am pretty sure your unit only has the 5 protocols but how you check is if your unit has 2 different optimal proformance protools. I believe it say optimal proformance I and optimal profromance II.
 
We were just trained on this really cool reading program. They say it is the top of the paramid meaning when you are done with Dore and listening then you would want to try it.  I can't wait to start my son on it and see how he does.  It was really amazing to see how bad I did on the testing.  Since Dore and listening I can read better but I still hate it.  In this testing it  tracks how you read and where your eyes go if you skip around, if you read and re-read a line and how long you fixate on each word. 
 
More on the reading program as we figure it all out. 
 
Hope all is well with all of you,
 
xo Rebecca

EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me

 

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To: doreprogram@ yahoogroups. com
From: normagil44@msn. com
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 19:56:12 -0600
Subject: [DoreProgram] testing

Rebecca, 
Does Dore take medicad for payment for testing?  We would like to have Tait tested to see how far he has advanced and what other programs he needs to listen to etc.  Would it be better if I phoned you to discuss this.  Also how do I check how many protocols we have in our I-Pod.
Norma in Colorado

From: purgould <purgould@...>
Subject: [DoreProgram] Re: testing
To: DoreProgram@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, May 29, 2009, 12:29 PM

Thanks for your response, Olga. Where can I find more information about the Reading Plus program? It sounds like it might be useful for my son to try it over summer vacation.

And I think my son's auditory processing is poor because he starts focusing on something that he's just heard and might need to think about more, then when the discussion moves on, he's no longer paying attention. Would Sensory Solutions help that?

Thanks again,
Jane

--- In DoreProgram@ yahoogroups. com, olga soler <fleursavag@ ...> wrote:
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> A few of the things you mentioned like trouble following class discussion  sounds like he has some auditory processing problems. Remember the vestibular system is what coordinates all other sensory avenues including the movements of the eye. If he is having trouble processings sound (he could still have good hearing but not good perception of all sounds) this could be a real problem not just to listening but to reading. The auditory program My Sensory Solutions is really good in this area. That's why lots of people are taking that as the next step. The Reading plus program will help also with the motor funcitons of the eye and with reading speed but if the vestibular is still not up to speed it will not do. The reading program is pretty inexpensive and can be done with the listening program. Olga
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> --- On Thu, 5/28/09, purgould <purgould@.. .> wrote:
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> From: purgould <purgould@.. .>
> Subject: [DoreProgram] Re: testing
> To: DoreProgram@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 1:00 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Rebecca,
>
> I am very interested in the reading program you describe. My son finished Dore about 1 1/2 years ago, during his freshman year in college. When he first finished, he thought it helped, but this year has been extremely difficult for him--both getting his work done on time, and particularly reading. His work is very good, but he's almost always behind, he continues to procrastinate, he often has trouble following what's going on in class discussions, and he can never finish his reading.
>
> We all realize that college reading is different from reading a novel, but it's really agony for him. He's very slow and he has a hard time skimming for information. I notice that he doesn't even read easy things like emails (mine, of course!)or short articles. Writing is also very difficult. He's actually an excellent writer, but it takes him a very long time to put his thoughts together (once he gets himself to start, that is).
>
> I'm very happy to read that Dore is helping school-aged students, but what about college students, who have different needs and who then need to apply their college skills to the working world? My son is really hard on himself, which makes it doubly stressful on him. A good reading program might help, but I'm not sure the improvements that seemed to have happened with Dore have been retained. In fact, they seem to have fled.
>
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Jane Gould
>
> --- In DoreProgram@ yahoogroups. com, Rebecca Goniwich <rgoniwich@ ..> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi Norma,
> >
> >
> >
> > I wish Hallowell did take medicade or any kind of insurance but they do not. Feel free to phone me to discuss further. I am pretty sure your unit only has the 5 protocols but how you check is if your unit has 2 different optimal proformance protools. I believe it say optimal proformance I and optimal profromance II.
> >
> >
> >
> > We were just trained on this really cool reading program. They say it is the top of the paramid meaning when you are done with Dore and listening then you would want to try it. I can't wait to start my son on it and see how he does. It was really amazing to see how bad I did on the testing. Since Dore and listening I can read better but I still hate it. In this testing it tracks how you read and where your eyes go if you skip around, if you read and re-read a line and how long you fixate on each word.
> >
> >
> >
> > More on the reading program as we figure it all out.
> >
> >
> >
> > Hope all is well with all of you,
> >
> >
> >
> > xo Rebecca
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

From: Norma Parsons <normagil44@...>
Subject: RE: [DoreProgram] testing
To: "DoreProgram" <doreprogram@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Friday, May 29, 2009, 9:58 AM

Rebecca,  Thank you for your reply.  Since Hallowell doesn't take any kind of insurance we cannot afford to have our son tested.
I would like you to look on the internet about miracle belt.  Just go to miracle belt .  I have heard that it works really well or ADHD, dyslexia, dyspraxia etc.  I have a friend who said it has worked wonders on a relative of hers. 
So far Dore and the i pod has helped  but our son still has quite a ways to go to be up to par on his math, reading and spelling.  He still has trouble with running.   He still has trouble and doesn't like it.  He has been working on the Dore program 2 years and 2 months.  I still don't want to give up and I don't want to put him on drugs as the Dr. and childrens hospital suggested.
Norma
 

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To: doreprogram@ yahoogroups. com
From: rgoniwich@hotmail. com
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 22:41:14 -0400
Subject: [DoreProgram] testing

Hi Norma,
 
I wish Hallowell did take medicade or any kind of insurance but they do not.  Feel free to phone me to discuss further.  I am pretty sure your unit only has the 5 protocols but how you check is if your unit has 2 different optimal proformance protools. I believe it say optimal proformance I and optimal profromance II.
 
We were just trained on this really cool reading program. They say it is the top of the paramid meaning when you are done with Dore and listening then you would want to try it.  I can't wait to start my son on it and see how he does.  It was really amazing to see how bad I did on the testing.  Since Dore and listening I can read better but I still hate it.  In this testing it  tracks how you read and where your eyes go if you skip around, if you read and re-read a line and how long you fixate on each word. 
 
More on the reading program as we figure it all out. 
 
Hope all is well with all of you,
 
xo Rebecca

EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me

 

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To: doreprogram@ yahoogroups. com
From: normagil44@msn. com
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 19:56:12 -0600
Subject: [DoreProgram] testing

Rebecca, 
Does Dore take medicad for payment for testing?  We would like to have Tait tested to see how far he has advanced and what other programs he needs to listen to etc.  Would it be better if I phoned you to discuss this.  Also how do I check how many protocols we have in our I-Pod.
Norma in Colorado

From: Norma Parsons <normagil44@...>
Subject: RE: [DoreProgram] testing
To: "DoreProgram" <doreprogram@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Friday, May 29, 2009, 9:58 AM

Rebecca,  Thank you for your reply.  Since Hallowell doesn't take any kind of insurance we cannot afford to have our son tested.
I would like you to look on the internet about miracle belt.  Just go to miracle belt .  I have heard that it works really well or ADHD, dyslexia, dyspraxia etc.  I have a friend who said it has worked wonders on a relative of hers. 
So far Dore and the i pod has helped  but our son still has quite a ways to go to be up to par on his math, reading and spelling.  He still has trouble with running.   He still has trouble and doesn't like it.  He has been working on the Dore program 2 years and 2 months.  I still don't want to give up and I don't want to put him on drugs as the Dr. and childrens hospital suggested.
Norma
 

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To: doreprogram@ yahoogroups. com
From: rgoniwich@hotmail. com
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 22:41:14 -0400
Subject: [DoreProgram] testing

Hi Norma,
 
I wish Hallowell did take medicade or any kind of insurance but they do not.  Feel free to phone me to discuss further.  I am pretty sure your unit only has the 5 protocols but how you check is if your unit has 2 different optimal proformance protools. I believe it say optimal proformance I and optimal profromance II.
 
We were just trained on this really cool reading program. They say it is the top of the paramid meaning when you are done with Dore and listening then you would want to try it.  I can't wait to start my son on it and see how he does.  It was really amazing to see how bad I did on the testing.  Since Dore and listening I can read better but I still hate it.  In this testing it  tracks how you read and where your eyes go if you skip around, if you read and re-read a line and how long you fixate on each word. 
 
More on the reading program as we figure it all out. 
 
Hope all is well with all of you,
 
xo Rebecca

EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me

 

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To: doreprogram@ yahoogroups. com
From: normagil44@msn. com
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 19:56:12 -0600
Subject: [DoreProgram] testing

Rebecca, 
Does Dore take medicad for payment for testing?  We would like to have Tait tested to see how far he has advanced and what other programs he needs to listen to etc.  Would it be better if I phoned you to discuss this.  Also how do I check how many protocols we have in our I-Pod.
Norma in Colorado