After 50+/- years of horrible, fragile teeth, my dentist has agreed

to take most of them out. He recommended implants for the bottom -

they sink a couple of posts and the entire lower denture is hooked

on these things.  You get them taken out every six months for

cleaning etc.  The top plate - he wants to leave a few teeth in,

crown and root canal them - and put in a flapper.  What do you guys

think?  This whole procedure is going to cost a serious chunk of

change AFTER insurance.

Once you extract a tooth, bone loss occurs rapidly.  If you  place what they

call an immediate loaded implant into the jaw bone, your  system continues to

treat the surrounding area as if there is still a tooth  there, so there is no

further bone loss.  For someone like me whom  already had some issues of bone

loss, this was the best way to proceed.   Once the oral surgeon extracted my

teeth, he had a clear picture into  the jaw bone and chose the best places

that had the most significant amount  of bone, to insert the implants.  This is

far less traumatic than having my  teeth extracted at one visit and then going

in for yet another surgery in 6 or  so months.  The implants should take to

the bone within 3 or so  months.  Then I will be able to snap my denture into a

secure  foundation.  Rita



In a message dated 5/2/2008 7:26:08 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

kiararayne@... writes:



There  are some other people on the group that are considering getting

implants  and they said their dentists recommend waiting 6 mo- 1 year

after  extractions.after  extractions.<WBR>..I dont remember the deta

and  share their knowledge...and  share their knowledge...<WBR>I have nev

the same day as extractions until now. I would discuss it with the

dentists when you are checking them out...Jonell









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Hey Rita .... you are talking about bone-loss? .... is this the jaw

bone? ...... how is there a "loss" if the tooth is not there? ... I

have heard that this is just a BS line with lots of dentists. And

there has been lots of BS done to people ...look here in this group !



And what is the deal with your O S ? .... was there a flat hourly

charge or is it based on how many teeth?



I am still in-the-process of putting my deal together. I have been

given the idea of shopping-around for the best deal and the quality

of the product.



Which type of implants did you go with? .... did you get a "deal" on

a couple of those - if they do the operation at one time?



Eric









--- In Denture_Dentures@yahoogroups.com, Ritanuch@... wrote:

>

>

>

> Once you extract a tooth, bone loss occurs rapidly.  If you  place

what they

> call an immediate loaded implant into the jaw bone, your  system

continues to

> treat the surrounding area as if there is still a tooth  there, so

there is no

> further bone loss.  For someone like me whom  already had some

issues of bone

> loss, this was the best way to proceed.   Once the oral surgeon

extracted my

> teeth, he had a clear picture into  the jaw bone and chose the best

places

> that had the most significant amount  of bone, to insert the

implants.  This is

> far less traumatic than having my  teeth extracted at one visit and

then going

> in for yet another surgery in 6 or  so months.  The implants should

take to

> the bone within 3 or so  months.  Then I will be able to snap my

denture into a

> secure  foundation.  Rita

>

> In a message dated 5/2/2008 7:26:08 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

> kiararayne@... writes:

>

> There  are some other people on the group that are considering

getting

> implants  and they said their dentists recommend waiting 6 mo- 1

year

> after  extractions.after  extractions.<WBR>..I dont remember the

deta

> and  share their knowledge...and  share their knowledge...<WBR>I

have nev

> the same day as extractions until now. I would discuss it with the

> dentists when you are checking them out...Jonell

>

>

>

>

> Rita Nucciarone

>

>

>

> **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists

on family

> favorites at AOL Food.

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>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

Hey Rita .... you are talking about bone-loss? .... is this the  jaw

bone? ...... how is there a "loss" if the tooth is not there? ...  I

have heard that this is just a BS line with lots of dentists. And

there  has been lots of BS done to people ...look here in this group



Eric I can tell you bone loss is not BS.  I had 7 teeth removed many  years

ago.  Before implants were becoming more popular and common.   The back of my

lower jaw where they were removed is almost degraded away.   I can open my

mouth and tell the loss, I can feel the loss from the outside just  touching

with

my fingers.  You can see in on x-rays.

The way it was explained to me is that when the teeth are seated in the

lower jaw they act sort of like pistons or shock absorbers.  When you chew  and

talk the pressure exerted by the teeth in the jaw promote blood flow to the

bone which promotes continued growth of health bone.  When you remove the  teeth

there is nothing to provide that pumping motion in the jaw so the blood  flow

diminishes and new bone growth is not generate.  What is there  degrades.

I've been told I have pretty much a 50/50 chance of implants working in the

back portion of my lower jaw.  I'm going to try for that good 50% and try  to

save what part of my jaw I can.



If you look at older people who have had dentures for years and years look

when you can at where their lower jaw has moved to in relation to their  upper.

  The face really shrinks and changes due to the bone loss.

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We are talking bone loss and my specific situation is my upper  jaw.   After

the natural teeth are extracted and the immediate  denture is inserted, there

is a relatively fast loss of the bone that used to  hold the natural teeth in

place.  By the end of three weeks, enough bone  has been lost that there is a

LOT of space between parts of the denture and the  healing gums.  This leads

to rapidly increasing looseness and sore  spots.  If you have an implant

inserted, the bone loss is minimal.   That is not BS but a fact.  My OS charges

per

implant...however in my case  he capped the mini at $1,000.00.  He said he

would insert as many mini as  possible and not charge me over $1,000.00...with

the hope that most or some of  them would integrate with the bone.  Because I do

have bone loss from  periodontal disease he said that I needed to have a few

normal size implants as  well.  I believe I have 3 reg implants and the rest

are mini.  All  along the top front of my gums.



Without getting implants, after teeth are extracted you do have rapid bone

loss and you your facial structure begins to sink in...this is not so with

implants.  Yes, they are expensive, but I believe very worth it in the long 

run.

  My OR is allowing me to make monthly payments...without that option I  could

not have this done at all.  My total bill for the OR only is approx

$13,000.00.





In a message dated 5/3/2008 2:45:22 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

niteowl440@... writes:









Hey Rita .... you are talking about bone-loss? .... is this the jaw

bone? ...... how is there a "loss" if the tooth is not there? ... I

have heard that this is just a BS line with lots of dentists. And

there has been lots of BS done to people ...look here in this group !



And what is the deal with your O S ? .... was there a flat hourly

charge or is it based on how many teeth?



I am still in-the-process  of putting my deal together. I have been

given the idea of shopping-around  for the best deal and the quality

of the product.



Which type of  implants did you go with? .... did you get a "deal" on

a couple of those -  if they do the operation at one time?

















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Tracey - great explanation - We were concerned about my implants  integrating

as well because of my bone loss....but I can tell you that my OR is

extremely pleased so far.  It's not just about the esctetics either....With 

minimal

bone loss and secure fitting dentures, you are able to chew and digest  your

food a lot better...which promotes better health all around.



In a message dated 5/3/2008 6:39:13 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

Tsmith1095@... writes:









Hey Rita .... you are talking about bone-loss? .... is this the  jaw

bone? ...... how is there a "loss" if the tooth is not there? ...  I

have heard that this is just a BS line with lots of dentists.  And

there has been lots of BS done to people ...look here in this group



Eric I can tell you bone loss is not BS. I had 7 teeth removed many  years

ago. Before implants were becoming more popular and common. The back  of my

lower jaw where they were removed is almost degraded away. I can  open my

mouth and tell the loss, I can feel the loss from the outside just  touching

with

my fingers. You can see in on x-rays.

The way it was  explained to me is that when the teeth are seated in the

lower jaw they  act sort of like pistons or shock absorbers. When you chew

and

talk the  pressure exerted by the teeth in the jaw promote blood flow to the

bone  which promotes continued growth of health bone. When you remove the

teeth

there is nothing to provide that pumping motion in the jaw so the blood  flow

diminishes and new bone growth is not generate. What is there  degrades.

I've been told I have pretty much a 50/50 chance of implants  working in the

back portion of my lower jaw. I'm going to try for that  good 50% and try to

save what part of my jaw I can.



If you look at  older people who have had dentures for years and years look

when you can  at where their lower jaw has moved to in relation to their

upper.

The face  really shrinks and changes due to the bone  loss.

Tracey















Rita Nucciarone







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The company Affordable Dentures is just that. They offer a mini implant that is

really reasonabley priced and often you can use your current dentures and they

trim them down to work with the implants.  They have offices in many locations

throughout the country. I am not sure how anyone can afford the high prices I

have seen here, even with insurance. It is amazing and almost sad that they

charge sooooooooooooooo much when so many more people would take advantage of

the services if they were affordable.

I wear dentures and while it is a pain to have to use adhesive from time to

time, I refuse to pay the high prices some are charging. I am saving up for the

cost of mini implants with Affordable Dentures.

Hope this has many helped someone out there,

Thanks for this!  Does anyone else have good (or--I guess--bad, too) things

to say about this group?  I'm going to change dentists and would love advice!

Thanks--

Karen







--- In Denture_Dentures@yahoogroups.com, "websurfer54" <websurfer54@...> wrote:

>

> The company Affordable Dentures is just that. They offer a mini implant that

is really reasonabley priced and often you can use your current dentures and

they trim them down to work with the implants.  They have offices in many

locations throughout the country. I am not sure how anyone can afford the high

prices I have seen here, even with insurance. It is amazing and almost sad that

they charge sooooooooooooooo much when so many more people would take advantage

of the services if they were affordable.

> I wear dentures and while it is a pain to have to use adhesive from time to

time, I refuse to pay the high prices some are charging. I am saving up for the

cost of mini implants with Affordable Dentures.

> Hope this has many helped someone out there,

>

Hi Karen ...sorry about the delay in answering. I think that MOST people here

want to help people if they can. B U T .. the ones who come on here to spam or

scam ...will get immediately BOOTED !!



To Queen ... what have you been told about the durability of the minis ? what

are these cost in your areas ...and if they do multiples ...is there a hefty

discount ? ... Eric







--- In Denture_Dentures@yahoogroups.com, "queenbee97214" <queenbee97214@...>

wrote:

>

>    Thanks for this!  Does anyone else have good (or--I guess--bad, too) things

to say about this group?  I'm going to change dentists and would love advice!

> Thanks--

> Karen

>

>

>

> --- In Denture_Dentures@yahoogroups.com, "websurfer54" <websurfer54@> wrote:

> >

> > The company Affordable Dentures is just that. They offer a mini implant that

is really reasonabley priced and often you can use your current dentures and

they trim them down to work with the implants.  They have offices in many

locations throughout the country. I am not sure how anyone can afford the high

prices I have seen here, even with insurance. It is amazing and almost sad that

they charge sooooooooooooooo much when so many more people would take advantage

of the services if they were affordable.

> > I wear dentures and while it is a pain to have to use adhesive from time to

time, I refuse to pay the high prices some are charging. I am saving up for the

cost of mini implants with Affordable Dentures.

> > Hope this has many helped someone out there,

> >

>

--- In Denture_Dentures@yahoogroups.com, "Eric " <niteowl440@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Karen ...sorry about the delay in answering. I think that MOST people here

want to help people if they can. B U T .. the ones who come on here to spam or

scam ...will get immediately BOOTED !!

>

> To Queen ... what have you been told about the durability of the minis ? what

are these cost in your areas ...and if they do multiples ...is there a hefty

discount ? ... Eric

>

>

>

> --- In Denture_Dentures@yahoogroups.com, "queenbee97214" <queenbee97214@>

wrote:

> >

> >    Thanks for this!  Does anyone else have good (or--I guess--bad, too)

things to say about this group?  I'm going to change dentists and would love

advice!

> > Thanks--

> > Karen

> >

> >

> >

> > --- In Denture_Dentures@yahoogroups.com, "websurfer54" <websurfer54@> wrote:

> > >

> > > The company Affordable Dentures is just that. They offer a mini implant

that is really reasonabley priced and often you can use your current dentures

and they trim them down to work with the implants.  They have offices in many

locations throughout the country. I am not sure how anyone can afford the high

prices I have seen here, even with insurance. It is amazing and almost sad that

they charge sooooooooooooooo much when so many more people would take advantage

of the services if they were affordable.

> > > I wear dentures and while it is a pain to have to use adhesive from time

to time, I refuse to pay the high prices some are charging. I am saving up for

the cost of mini implants with Affordable Dentures.

> > > Hope this has many helped someone out there,

> > >

> >

>





Hi



I am allways carefull to recomannd mini implants.If there is enough bone it is

best to choose larges size of implants.If the is a large surface then bone can

grow on mucht better and the last longer.



Best wishes