Dr. forman changed the list not my fault. but u are on reserve.

Smita Radhakrishnan - smitaphysio

--- In De_Anza_Massage_Club@yahoogroups.com, "Ginger" <mrsda1ejr@...>
wrote:
>
> i need to know who u are.
>

Grace Gonzales: gwaciepooh

--- In De_Anza_Massage_Club@yahoogroups.com, "Ginger" <mrsda1ejr@...>
wrote:
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> i need to know who u are.
>

i need to know who u are.

thats it

On Nov 20, 2007 7:56 AM, smitaphysio@... <smitaphysio@...> wrote:
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> Hi everyone.
>
>  Can someone please confirm if the venue for Bodyworlds 2 is
>  201 S Market Street in San Jose?
>
>  Thanks.
>  - Smita
>
>

Hi everyone.

Can someone please confirm if the venue for Bodyworlds 2 is
201 S Market Street in San Jose?

Thanks.
- Smita

I will be driving from the Oakridge Mall area to Body Worlds next
week.  Anyone who wants a ride let me know.  I live very close to the
Blossom Hill transit station.

Gene

(408)315-2155

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Good Morning everyone,

Thanks Emily you did a great job of explaining this. I want to go a little
further. You can specialize you practice so that you only work on Women or
Geriatrics, athletes. The list can go on. Your protection to stop the
session is in your intake agreement they sign when they come to you for
there first appointment.

I specialize in Women, Geriatrics & Perinatal.  This came about after
working in APE and my desire to help the elderly and working women.

I had problems with male clients and I can help you with dealing with that
before and after the fact. Now I take most of my clients by referrals and
I phone screen my clients. If you don't feel comfortable you can always
say that you are full or refer out there is alot of therapist to refer
too. Another reason to join the AMTA so you will have this network of
people. Where the ABMP does not have a network of local therapists to
network with or refer clients too.

Mine says
"Agreement and Consent I understand that the massage/bodywork I receive is
provided for the basic purpose of relaxation and relief of muscular
tension.  If I experience any pain or discomfort during this session,  I
will immediately inform the practitioner so that the pressure and/or
strokes may be adjusted to my level of comfort.  I further understand that
massage or bodywork should not be construed as a substitute for medical
examination, diagnosis, or treatment and that I should see a physician,
chiropractor or other qualified medical specialist for any mental or
physical ailment of which I am aware.  I understand that massage/bodywork
practitioners are not qualified to perform spinal or skeletal adjustments,
diagnose, prescribe, or treat any physical or mental illness, and that
nothing said in the course of the session given should be construed as
such.  Because massage/bodywork should not be performed under certain
medical conditions, I affirm that I will provide all of my known medical
conditions and answer all questions honestly.  I am currently free of any
communicable and contagious diseases.   I agree to keep the practitioner
updated as to any changes in my medical profile and understand that there
shall be no liability on the practitioner’s part should I fail to do so.
I also understand that any illicit or sexually suggestive remarks or
advances made by me will result in immediate termination of the session,
and I will be liable for payment of the scheduled appointment."


If you have more questions on this subject I would be glad to help you.



Deb Tuck, NCTMB

De Anza College
Massage Therapy Program Assistant
21250 Stevens Creek Boulevard
Cupertino, CA 95014
office: 408.864.8205
fax: 408.864.5419
tuckdeborah@...
www.deanza.edu/pe/massage

Yes you always have the right to refuse.  My question is regarding
having a policy of not accepting clients based on gender.  If you
refused clients because they were Asian or Black that would be very
cut a dried you are going to get sued.  Gender is a little more
tricky.  Let me also state I fully support men only refuges and women
only refuges (by refuge I mean a place of their own not a shelter) but
wonder about the legality.  Curves only allows women but what would
happen if someone opened a men only gym?


-----Original Message-----
From: Ginger Armstrong <mrsda1ejr@...>
To: De_Anza_Massage_Club@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 9:30 am
Subject: Re: [De_Anza_Massage_Club] Re: Question About Discrimination

You always have the right to refuse service to anyone.

Thanks Emily.  Yes best judgement should always prevail.  What I was
looking into was the legality of having a policy of rejecting clients
based on gender and not because they were creepy.

You always have the right to refuse service to anyone.

On Nov 14, 2007 9:18 AM, showersunflower <showersunflower@...> wrote:
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> Gene,
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>  It really depends on which city you're working in. And in most cities
>  aroaround this area (including Cupertino and San Jose) it's illegal to
>  actually work outside of your actual home. As for working on male
>  clients, I'm going to add that regardless of gender you can still be
>  harassed sexually or non-sexually. And even if it wasn't harassment,
>  you AND the client both have the right to refuse treating or being
>  treated.
>
>  If you aren't prenatal/perinatal certified you might be scared of
>  working on a pregnant woman and can refuse to treat her and it wouldn't
>  be discrimination - you would then instead refer her to someone like
>  myself or Debbie who are qualified to massage pregnant females.
>
>  The best advice I can give you is to use your best judgement. If as a
>  female therapist, you know that the male client tried to pick you up as
>  a therapist by "hitting on you" then you know it's not going to be wise
>  to expect him to expect more than just a therapeutic massage. And
>  regardless sometimes our judgements fail us, so by all means ALWAYS
>  have a paper contract signed before the treatment promising to respect
>  all boundaries between the client and therapist AND be ready to report
>  the person immediately if something happens.
>
>  Emily
>
>  --- In De_Anza_Massage_Club@yahoogroups.com, "Dragon Lover"
>
>  <efforrer@...> wrote:
>  >
>  > On another massage discussion site the question of choosing not to
>  > work on clients based on specific traits that are not due to any fault
>  > of the clients. Specifically choosing not to work on male clients.
>  > Now I know this is a touchy subject but my question is does anyone
>  > know if there is any legal precedent allowing to refuse a client based
>  > on gender or prohibiting the practice. Also some of the people seem
>  > to think that if you work out of your home the regular rules of
>  > business do not apply. Don't you have to follow all regulations
>  > regarding a business even if you are working out of your family room
>  > or spare bedroom?
>  >
>  > Gene
>  >
>
>

Gene,

It really depends on which city you're working in. And in most cities
aroaround this area (including Cupertino and San Jose) it's illegal to
actually work outside of your actual home. As for working on male
clients, I'm going to add that regardless of gender you can still be
harassed sexually or non-sexually. And even if it wasn't harassment,
you AND the client both have the right to refuse treating or being
treated.

If you aren't prenatal/perinatal certified you might be scared of
working on a pregnant woman and can refuse to treat her and it wouldn't
be discrimination - you would then instead refer her to someone like
myself or Debbie who are qualified to massage pregnant females.

The best advice I can give you is to use your best judgement. If as a
female therapist, you know that the male client tried to pick you up as
a therapist by "hitting on you" then you know it's not going to be wise
to expect him to expect more than just a therapeutic massage. And
regardless sometimes our judgements fail us, so by all means ALWAYS
have a paper contract signed before the treatment promising to respect
all boundaries between the client and therapist AND be ready to report
the person immediately if something happens.

Emily

--- In De_Anza_Massage_Club@yahoogroups.com, "Dragon Lover"
<efforrer@...> wrote:
>
> On another massage discussion site the question of choosing not to
> work on clients based on specific traits that are not due to any fault
> of the clients.  Specifically choosing not to work on male clients.
> Now I know this is a touchy subject but my question is does anyone
> know if there is any legal precedent allowing to refuse a client based
> on gender or prohibiting the practice.  Also some of the people seem
> to think that if  you work out of your home the regular rules of
> business do not apply.  Don't you have to follow all regulations
> regarding a business even if you are working out of your family room
> or spare bedroom?
>
> Gene
>

On another massage discussion site the question of choosing not to
work on clients based on specific traits that are not due to any fault
of the clients.  Specifically choosing not to work on male clients.
Now I know this is a touchy subject but my question is does anyone
know if there is any legal precedent allowing to refuse a client based
on gender or prohibiting the practice.  Also some of the people seem
to think that if  you work out of your home the regular rules of
business do not apply.  Don't you have to follow all regulations
regarding a business even if you are working out of your family room
or spare bedroom?

Gene

pe 12u 330 you need to be there at least to sign the release forms.
for people who are in kathys class i will c u tuesday with release forms.
-pres

By the end of today if i had not heard from you you will not be going
to body worlds 2. Jorge, Cindy, Najet, and Evan this means you call me
408-504-3216.

This is the last call who wants to go to body worlds 2. contact me
408-504-3216 Ginger hangook let me know ur name. evan, jorge,cindy
najet kerrick let me know NOW!!!!!
-pres

I need to know who is able to attend the new date of body worlds 2.
email me mrsda1ejr@... new date is 23rd of nov. at 1pm the
friday after thanksgiving.
-pres

Hello Everyone,

Dr. Forman and I were given the list of students today. I regret that Nov
16th is full up and we had to come up with a alternate date. Sorry if this
causes anyone that had signed up to not  be able to go.

We have 17 students with ID's that have signed up with Ginger.  Please let
Ginger know if you still can make it or not.

New Date is Friday after Thanksgiving November 23  1pm

Dr. Forman and I will be there.



Deb Tuck, NCTMB

De Anza College
Massage Therapy Program Assistant
21250 Stevens Creek Boulevard
Cupertino, CA 95014
office: 408.864.8205
fax: 408.864.5419
tuckdeborah@...
www.deanza.edu/pe/massage

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of massage info.

Gene

Please pass the work.  The AMTA-CA Silicon Valley Unit is giving a free
workshop to All Massage Students on Friday Nov 16th "Introduction to the
Foundation Course" by Jean Couch owner of the Balance Center in Palo Alto.

We meet at the Divine Science Center, 1540 Hicks San Jose Ca 95125

Business Meeting & Potluck starts at 7:30pm
Workshop is from 8:30-10:30pm
** Bring a holiday potluck dish or contribute $5 at the door
**** No table is needed for this workshop"

You will need to attend the business meeting and workshop since we will be
talking about AMTA and answering any questions you have on membership.

For more information about the workshop and the SVU please check out our
website www.womenhealthmassage.com/SVU.htm

If you have questions let me know.  Flyers will be available later this
week when our newsletter is completed.



Deb Tuck, NCTMB

AMTA-CA SVU President
www.womenhealthmassage.com/SVU.htm

De Anza College
Massage Therapy Program Assistant
21250 Stevens Creek Boulevard
Cupertino, CA 95014
office: 408.864.8205
fax: 408.864.5419
tuckdeborah@...
www.deanza.edu/pe/massage

You don't have to type in the whole long address. If you search for
De_anza_massage_club (WITH the underscores and no spaces) it's the
first one to come up. It's how I found you. (I'm too lazy to write the
whole thing :P )

Check out the Club Day photo in the new album!

May I say thanks to all who helped out during Club day. We had a very
productive day. We also had a lot of people sign the sheet I hope at
least half of them will actually want to be in the club. Also a
special thanks to Dr. Forman for letting us borrow the massage chair
and table. I will soon let you all know when we can have our next club
meeting.
-Pres. Ginger

18.50 per student ages 19-29, 22.00 for regular adult prices. body
worlds 2 ends on Jan. 26