Hello group:

My name is Gordon, and I joined to discuss an issue that I thought you might be
interested in.  As you know, a large perentage of neuropathy cases are diagnosed
as
"idiopathic," meaning the cause is unknown.

There is emerging research indicating that the zinc content in most denture
creams is a
cause of severe neuropathy. How do I know this? Am I a health professional? No,
but I am
a lawyer who represents several people who have debilitating neuropathic issues
as a
result of their denture cream use.

This is something that the public needs to become aware of. There are obviously
no
warnings of any kind on the labels of these products, and the companies that
manufacture
those products are most definitely aware of the risks that the zinc content of
those
produts presents.

If you have any questions about these issues, by all means fire away. New
research is
emerging regarding this causal link, and there will definitely be more to come.

Finally, I want to be clear as to who I am and what interest I have in this
issue. Some other
groups have acted quite annoyed by that fact, though I am not entirely sure why.
This is a
public health issue as well as a consumer rights issue. The bottom line is that
people need
to be aware of these issues, and as necessary to discuss it with their doctors.

Thanks!
GWA

He needs to start finding and removing pathologies on a regular,
constant basis.  Start with Lesson #1 and do it together with your
husband.
http://www.curedrive.org

Once you've done that, write back and let us know how it went and
we'll take it from there.

I cured myself of a serious liver condition several years ago.  I did
a lot of immunics along with other things such as acupuncture, Chinese
medicine, milk thistle, an alteration in my diet, an exploration of
the possible emotional sources of the condition, etc., etc., etc.  It
takes a lot of determination to cure something but it's certainly
easier than some of the alternatives.

Love, Keely

--- In Cure-Group_Neuropathy@yahoogroups.com, "alexusdahne"
<alexusdahne@...> wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> My husband was diagnosed with amoebic liver abscess. He was treated
> with metronidazole and finally got cured. After treatment, he
> experienced numbness and tingling of his hands and feet. This really
> annoys him. We seek the help of a neurologist who prescribed him with
> Bcomplex vitamins and Gabapentin.
> Are there other ways that I can do to help him get treatment faster or
> any medications that had been proven to give better relief.
> Thanks.
>

Hi!

My husband was diagnosed with amoebic liver abscess. He was treated
with metronidazole and finally got cured. After treatment, he
experienced numbness and tingling of his hands and feet. This really
annoys him. We seek the help of a neurologist who prescribed him with
Bcomplex vitamins and Gabapentin.
Are there other ways that I can do to help him get treatment faster or
any medications that had been proven to give better relief.
Thanks.

Vivienne,

    Sorry for the delay.  I'm not having problems in my lower back, so
I have not tried it there.  I guess that since the nerves go thru the
back it might help.
    If only I (or my doctors) only knew what causes the pain.  The pain
is isolated to the second toe of the left foot, and not all my toes.
The pain is so severe, that at times I have been tempted to take an
"E-xacto" knife and cut the nerve in that toe.
    I think the vibrations cause the nerve to loose its sensativity,
much like the way a TENS unit does.

                             Stan


  --- In Cure-Group_Neuropathy@yahoogroups.com, Vivienne_Waterworth
<viviennewaterworth@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Stan
>
> Have you tried the back massager on your lower back? Do you know
what causes
> the pain in your toes? Is it from pressure on any nerves anywhere? Or
> damage? Or is it a circulation thing?
>
> Vivienne
> Co-moderator
>
>
>
> From: Stan Brewer <brewers@...>
> Reply-To: <Cure-Group_Neuropathy@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 03:07:54 -0400
> To: <cure-Group_Neuropathy@yahoogroups.com>, <Diabetes@yahoogroups.com>,
> <Peripheral_Neuropathy@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Neuropathy] Vibrator Eases Neuropathy Pain.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  The only thing that seems to ease my Neuropathy Pain in my toes is
> the use of a back massage vibrator on my toes.  About 30 minutes and the
> pain subsides greatly.
>
> I hope this helps others,
>
> Stan
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hi David

Welcome to the group. It sounds to me like youıve blown some of your nervous
system with the barotrauma? Is that right? Am I right in thinking that
refers to an accident of some kind while deep sea diving? Or am I completely
off the track?

I like the idea of listening to positive things (Christian recordings) to
keep your spirits up. When one has a long term disability, or chronic
condition of any kind, it is very easy to become depressed. Iıve just come
out of a short period of depression from post traumatic stress (cancer 12
months earlier) and a neurologist giving me a very shoddy investigation and
pronouncing there was nothing wrong with me other than Severe Somatoform
Disorder ­ the body turning stress into physical symptoms.

Well, I know my body, and he was only half right. There was a lot wrong with
my body, and because no-one was prepared to check me properly and then
correctly diagnose it, I had a lot of stress, which my body turned into
seizures and all kinds of spectacular symptoms.

Iıve been using Immunics to remove my negative thoughts, and to turn my
depression around. Try it ­ and let us know how you go.

As part of Immunics, they teach you how to connect to the Harmonic. In my
language, thatıs their word for God. In the early days they attracted a lot
of AIDS people to Immunics, so they tend to use language thatıs acceptable
to non Christians as well as Christians.

If you decide to get a password (and they do give them out free if you ask
them), check out my Cure Drive ­ Iıve been told by quite a few people that
they didnıt understand Immunics until they listened to my Cure Drive. I
chatted to them about the process all the way through, something they donıt
do every time, and I kept using simple words to describe what I was doing
(ex school teacher).

Vivienne
Brisbane, Australia




From: davebray8463 <davebray8463@...>
Reply-To: <Cure-Group_Neuropathy@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 09:31:27 -0000
To: <Cure-Group_Neuropathy@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Neuropathy] Things I take





To gain some control, daily I take:

Acetyl L-Carnitine
Inositol
a complex B
methyl B12
Alpha Lipoic Acid
a Flex joint pain supplement for inflammation (if there is any)

Xanax.....5 to .75 mg. daily
Tramadol....25 mg daily
an occasional Lyrica

Because I suffer with tinnitus due to barotrauma, any opioid will
increase the ringing in my ears to intolerble levels.  I use them
sparingly.

I also deviate using hot pads and cold packs, and use an Anodyne
unit.  For the first several months, I used my Anodyne unit everyday
for as long as 4 hours each day.  The pain I experience is in my
arms/hands, legs/feet and face (at times).

For encouragement, I listen to Christian recordings throughout the
day.

David



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Stan

Have you tried the back massager on your lower back? Do you know what causes
the pain in your toes? Is it from pressure on any nerves anywhere? Or
damage? Or is it a circulation thing?

Vivienne
Co-moderator



From: Stan Brewer <brewers@...>
Reply-To: <Cure-Group_Neuropathy@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 03:07:54 -0400
To: <cure-Group_Neuropathy@yahoogroups.com>, <Diabetes@yahoogroups.com>,
<Peripheral_Neuropathy@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Neuropathy] Vibrator Eases Neuropathy Pain.






  The only thing that seems to ease my Neuropathy Pain in my toes is
the use of a back massage vibrator on my toes.  About 30 minutes and the
pain subsides greatly.

I hope this helps others,

Stan



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Kathie

Have you checked out Immunics yet? This list is based on using Immunics to
remove things, such as removing the pain from our bodies.

The free manual may seem a bit weird at first. Well, not just weird, right
off the planet. But persevere with it, and youıll soon pick it up. It took
me a little while to figure it out, but once I did, I totally changed my
life around, in many ways, especially emotionally. Changed me from being a
very self conscious person who preferred to hide rather than step out into
the world with confidence. I still have my ups and downs, but I use Immunics
regularly, and it really does help.

Also join the CureDrive if you can,  because youıll pick up lots of tips
there.

I find the major cause of my pain is sugar! There are several things that
cause pain, alcohol causes a sharp arthritic type pain, almonds cause
massive toe-bending cramps that last 4 hours, gluten makes me feel like I
have the flu coming on for a few days plus gives me the worst hangover the
next morning, sugar causes a general body tissue pain and muscle pain,
sometimes so bad that I can hardly stand up. Keep off the sugar and the pain
goes away.

Simple in theory, hard to put into practice when you have a sweet tooth like
mine. Immunics helped ­ I am now removing all my addictions to sugar, from
all my bodies, starting at the top, and working down through all the 12
bodies.

D-ripose seems promising for some fibromyalgia. Have you tried it? Itıs used
by body builders as it helps the body metabolise certain sugars more
efficiently.

Let us know how you go.

Ps is your pain from damage to nerves? I wasnıt sure from reading your
email.

Vivienne



From: cimbie cuddles <kath46cim@...>
Reply-To: <Cure-Group_Neuropathy@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:40:48 -0700 (PDT)
To: <Cure-Group_Neuropathy@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Neuropathy] Things I take





What is a anodyne unit?  I take all b6 b12, evening
primrose. Now they want to operate on my wrists.  I
have pain in my elbows down my forearms.  They just
gave me Lycria.

Kathie
-


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

What is a anodyne unit?  I take all b6 b12, evening
primrose. Now they want to operate on my wrists.  I
have pain in my elbows down my forearms.  They just
gave me Lycria.

Kathie
--- davebray8463 <davebray8463@...> wrote:

> To gain some control, daily I take:
>
> Acetyl L-Carnitine
> Inositol
> a complex B
> methyl B12
> Alpha Lipoic Acid
> a Flex joint pain supplement for inflammation (if
> there is any)
>
> Xanax.....5 to .75 mg. daily
> Tramadol....25 mg daily
> an occasional Lyrica
>
> Because I suffer with tinnitus due to barotrauma,
> any opioid will
> increase the ringing in my ears to intolerble
> levels.  I use them
> sparingly.
>
> I also deviate using hot pads and cold packs, and
> use an Anodyne
> unit.  For the first several months, I used my
> Anodyne unit everyday
> for as long as 4 hours each day.  The pain I
> experience is in my
> arms/hands, legs/feet and face (at times).
>
> For encouragement, I listen to Christian recordings
> throughout the
> day.
>
> David
>
>


kathie


      
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To gain some control, daily I take:

Acetyl L-Carnitine
Inositol
a complex B
methyl B12
Alpha Lipoic Acid
a Flex joint pain supplement for inflammation (if there is any)

Xanax.....5 to .75 mg. daily
Tramadol....25 mg daily
an occasional Lyrica

Because I suffer with tinnitus due to barotrauma, any opioid will
increase the ringing in my ears to intolerble levels.  I use them
sparingly.

I also deviate using hot pads and cold packs, and use an Anodyne
unit.  For the first several months, I used my Anodyne unit everyday
for as long as 4 hours each day.  The pain I experience is in my
arms/hands, legs/feet and face (at times).

For encouragement, I listen to Christian recordings throughout the
day.

David

The only thing that seems to ease my Neuropathy Pain in my toes is
the use of a back massage vibrator on my toes.  About 30 minutes and the
pain subsides greatly.

          I hope this helps others,

                        Stan

My best friend James became weak in 2004, and unable to walk, and
suffered from intense pain.   He had meningitis a year of so earlier,
and then the nerve damage was done.  A couple of car accidents later,
and more damage, to the spinal cord itself.    James also had a lot
of bacteria infections deep within his skin- near the spine.

A combination of these factors, and the nerve conduction exams, MRIS,
cat scans, and every other scan immaginable led to the diagnosis of
Neuropathy.   Neurontin made him so sick we couldnt imagine.   He
stopped taking it.    Lortabs, and lots of narcs for pain on
occasion.  Days in the bed with the burning pain and numbness.

Well, this increased throughout 04 and 05.   In 05 James was on
occasion walking with a cane, then progressed to a walker, and then a
wheelchair.  He sought treatment from Dr. Steve Elston in Borger,
Texas, an internal medicine doc.  He was prescribed Fentanyl
transdermic patches-  Methadone was just too strong.   James stopped
the pain patch in December.   On occasion an antibiotic or two, lots
of vitamins, and WATER.   Asprin/Ibuprofin for pain-  take the asprin
with a bottle of Original Coke (not Diet, Cherry, etc). James spent
10 months with a cane, about 5 weeks witha  a walker, and then
James spent 3 months in a wheelchair (this is occuring as I am in New
Orleans during the Katrina mess at an EMS Conference).   I am back
home right before it hit, and James met me in a wheelchair.   We go
through December- he stops smoking cigarettes/pain patches, and all.

He stops seeing Elston- who wants to medicate him with tons of pain
meds.  Hell- he gets Methadone his first visit (no he is not a pain
pill junkie)- he never has taken any medicine.    Was our first
experience in the pain dept.   Lortabs didnt cut it, morphine didnt
touch it- do Dr. Elston prescribed Methadone.    Face first in food,
being so "high" your bodys organs shut down, and you feel as though
you are in another world- and unable to be woke up.   That is what we
got with the pain meds.  James said he could no longer function, and
needed off of them- he quit had a few days of DTs/Withdrawl, and that
was it.  Sure it was rough, but we managed to have a few lortabs to
help "ween" him down from complete Opiate withdrawel.

Then, a few weeks go by.  A few antibiotics, coke, asprin, water (and
lots of it), vitamins, and an acne medicine called Sotret (Accutane)-
which I got him for his 24th birthday, April 22 of this year.   We
are on the final days of Cipro (1 treatment of 14 days.    Since
March, April, and increasing in numbers, James is out more, he walks
all the time, no real pain or abnormalities.  He is 100% better than
he was a year ago.      Hope this helps someone out there.  Short of
the prescribing of pain pills, and lots of research, I found this
reigment worked quite well.   I stayed after him to follow it, he
did, and now he is near normal again. He even did some home
maintenance a few weeks ago, knocking out a wall, and putting in 2
new doors, as well as some other stuff like electrical work.

Jay

my uncle is in so much pain it makes him double up no prescription
drugs help what can he do

Dear Rev,
Have your uncle join the Cure Drive and the www.immunics.org web college on
curing.  Watch the videos, listen to the audios, do the lessons and keep going
to get to the bottom of his condition.   BTW: has he seen a doctor. Pain
indicates something wrong, eh?
- moderator

Hello,

The moderator of the immunicsBuddies_Neuropathy group has changed the group's
name.
This means that both the group's email address and the group home page
location have changed.

The group email address:
Cure-Group_Neuropathy@yahoogroups.com

The group home page location:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cure-Group_Neuropathy

If you have links which point to this group or an address book entry
for the group, you should update them, as the old addresses will no
longer work.

Regards,

Yahoo! Groups Customer Care

Dear Rambo:

This group focuses on treating neuropathy with immunics.  To learn this
alternative healing modality, join "the cure drive" and listen to the
new tutorial.  Listen with your mom.  Learn together.  You will be able
to "test" what will help your mother as you will learn how to control
your immune system.

Look at the "links section", on the cure drive home page.

Love Cathy

--- In immunicsBuddies_Neuropathy@yahoogroups.com, "ramborambo22"
<fortherecord27@h...> wrote:
> hi  my mom is suffering from severe neuropathy in her feet  at nite
> she cant sleep  her feet burn  terribly     does anyone know where i
> can find some natural remedies to help treat this   thanks  please
> email  asap  thanks

Hi Ahmed and welcome!!

This group focuses on curing neuropathy with immunics.

Join the cure drive (immunics main yahoo group).  Do the new 9 day
intensive and learn to test.  The link for the tutorial is on the
home page of the cure drive (look under "links" on the left).
Post back any questions.

Love Cathy

--- In immunicsBuddies_Neuropathy@yahoogroups.com, "Ahmed Kamal"
<ahmedkq@y...> wrote:
> Dear All:
> I am new here. I am Ahmed Kamal from egypt.31 years old. Analog
> circuit design engineer. Married and have two nice kids.
> I have neuropathy in mandibular and maxillary branches of right
> trigeminal nerve. I have sustained pain increasing at stress. and
> total loss of sensation in those two branches.
> My doctor (specialist in pain management) transferred me to have a
> nerve conduction velocity study on the trigeminal nerve. The doctor
> who performed the exam saied that it is not feasible to do this
exam
> on thrigeminal nerve except the opthalmic branch (which is
healthy).
> Anyone had information about if this right or wrong.And if I can do
> this exam on the mandibular and maxillary branches,, I appreciate
to
> send me a reference on how to do it to give it to the doctor.
> Many Thanks
> Ahmed

hi  my mom is suffering from severe neuropathy in her feet  at nite
she cant sleep  her feet burn  terribly     does anyone know where i
can find some natural remedies to help treat this   thanks  please
email  asap  thanks

Hi Roxy

Thank you for joining this Immunics group. I trust you will enjoy being in
this group, although it has been very quiet for quite a long time.

To be able to help you, can you tell us a little about yourself, and why you
want to use Immunics. It's a very powerful tool and has been used to achieve
some amazing results when used regularly. I trust that this will be your
experience :-)

The first thing to do is to go to the Immunics website and work through the
basic tutorial. Also go through the archives of this group to see how others
have used immunics for nuropathy issues.

Please feel free to come back to us and ask for assistance or to share
ideas.

Best wishes
Vivienne

A living tribute to the power of Immunics to change the course of a life!
www.immunics.org




On 17/8/05 11:50 AM, "Roxy" <my4by4forus@...> wrote:

> thank you for letting me join.   Roxy

thank you for letting me join.   Roxy

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Dear All:
I am new here. I am Ahmed Kamal from egypt.31 years old. Analog
circuit design engineer. Married and have two nice kids.
I have neuropathy in mandibular and maxillary branches of right
trigeminal nerve. I have sustained pain increasing at stress. and
total loss of sensation in those two branches.
My doctor (specialist in pain management) transferred me to have a
nerve conduction velocity study on the trigeminal nerve. The doctor
who performed the exam saied that it is not feasible to do this exam
on thrigeminal nerve except the opthalmic branch (which is healthy).
Anyone had information about if this right or wrong.And if I can do
this exam on the mandibular and maxillary branches,, I appreciate to
send me a reference on how to do it to give it to the doctor.
Many Thanks
Ahmed

Sounds fascinating.  I'm willing to try almost anything.  I  certainly
believe in a higher power, and that our bodies always have an ability  to
heal...sometimes we just need to help it along.  Thanks for the info and  I'll
check it
out when I have time.   Jen


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Jen

Welcome to the group! this group is dedicated to using Immunics to heal our
bodies. There have been some spectacular results from various members of
this group and the parent groups for Immunics.

I personally have a problem with my 'electrical system'. I sometimes have
meltdowns, which could be described as being like an epileptic seizure while
fully conscious, and which can be partially controlled for short bursts. The
seizure episodes can continue almost non-stop for several hours. Immunics,
EFT and ZP have been the biggest helpers in my search for healing.

(Many doctors and neuorologists have only been able to decide that I need a
psychiatrist!!! And while I believe that everyone can benefit from a
psychiatrist, I am quite well adjusted in psychiatric terms thank you,
confirmed by several professionals in the health field.) I also have
Diabetes Type II, Lupus, gout, numerous food allergies, obesity, liver
damage from Hepatitis A and CytoMegalo Virus, had kidney stones, shingles
twice, cold sores (not recently), back problems, 5 miscarriages, you name
it, I've probably had it or have it! Thanks to Immunics, EFT and ZP, I live
a more or less normal life, continue working long hours, and am enjoying
being a full-time grandmother to a 2 year old toddler!

Anyway, if you haven't already done so, go to the iCollege, www.immunics.com
and follow the links to get started. Download a cure show, read the manual,
read the web site. Part of the iCollege is hidden behind a password, but you
can learn how to use immunics without a password, or you can purchase one or
ask for a temporary free one.

Immunics looks and sounds weird. It is! But it does work. I describe it to
myself as a form of instructing God and my body to remove, install, and
understand. Don't let the God bit put you off. Many people use Immunics
without really believing in God - they describe it to themselves as
instructing the Universe to do it's job for them.

I describe the finger wiggling thing as a form of bio-feedback, a method of
letting you know what is happening at a level below or outside of our
conscious level. Any method of self muscle testing will do. Choose a method
for your body to say yes and another way for it to say no. it has to be fast
feedback, so although using a pendulum might work, it's too slow. You need a
faster method of getting answers.

So, have fun learning! Come back with questions, let us know how you are
doing.

With best wishes
Vivienne
Co-moderator


On 29/6/05 12:43 PM, "hazleyez510@..." <hazleyez510@...> wrote:

> Hi, I'm new to the group.  I've had diabetic neuropathy for a few  years now
> (peripheral and autonomic).  I've tried HBOT once and plan to  continue with
> it.  I also plan to try electric impulse stimulation,  I believe it's called.
> I'm taking alpha-lipoic and gamma linolenic  acid as well as other supplements
> to try to reverse the damage.  Was  wondering what methods others have tried,
> and their results.    Jen
>
>

Hi, I'm new to the group.  I've had diabetic neuropathy for a few  years now
(peripheral and autonomic).  I've tried HBOT once and plan to  continue with
it.  I also plan to try electric impulse stimulation,  I believe it's called.
I'm taking alpha-lipoic and gamma linolenic  acid as well as other supplements
to try to reverse the damage.  Was  wondering what methods others have tried,
and their results.    Jen


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Meri

Welcome aboard! Youıre in for an interesting experience, as you learn to
understand yourself better than you have ever done in the past.

The first thing you should do is go to www.immunics.com and download the
Basic Tutorial. This will explain what immunics is all about.

Immunics is a fantastic tool for removing all kinds of problems. Itıs very
simple to learn, almost too simple, but it is extremely powerful.

What kind of nervous problem do you have? Perhaps we can help you get
started with using Immunics specifically for your problem, but in the
meantime, just follow along with the tutorial until you are comfortable with
using it.

You can also download some of the Cure Shows. Some are free, others are
behind a password. Follow along with a few of them to get an even better
idea of how Immunics works. Some people find that they learn better from the
Cure Shows than from the basic tutorial. It all depends on how people learn,
I guess.

I look forward to hearing more from you. Feel free to ask questions as you
learn.

Light and love
Vivienne


On 31/3/05 3:41 PM, "meri_princes" <meri_princes@...> wrote:

>
> i have nervous problem and i am working in a bank.the doctor has
> advised me not to do office work.beside this i have cervicsl problem
> also.what should i do?



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

i have nervous problem and i am working in a bank.the doctor has
advised me not to do office work.beside this i have cervicsl problem
also.what should i do?

Wow Gina!

Fantastic progress! Itıs so exciting when you reach a milestone that says,
Œhey, you canıt ignore this change .. You have to acknowledge it! Itıs a
miracle!ı [grin]

On 13/12/04 4:53 AM, "The Light Bearers" <phoenix@...> wrote:

> I MUST Remove my resistance to telling about my CURES!! Please understand,
> when I get a cure, I worry that it just might not last but OH HAPPY DAY!!!
>
This is good ­ Iıve become a little tired of telling the same story of
changes made a while ago, so Iıve stopped telling people about more recent
work. Time to start talking again.

> I have had Neuropathy in my hands for 3.5 years. I have not had any measurable
> feeling in my left palm and all. I always thought that by now, it was a lost
> cause. OH HOW WRONG I WAS < giant grin>
> On Fri. morning suddenly I was able to feel some sensation in it!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> Granted, it is not feeling like you have but IT IS FEELING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> To me, it means it will get better.
> My protocol is an adapted form of Sheriden's MS protocol!!!!  OH, my left foot
> is getting more sensation toooooo!!!!
>
Thatıs even better news ­ wonıt be long and youıll be unrecognizable from
the person you have so recently been.
>
> And now...I REMOVE RESISTANCE TO BELIEVING MY CURES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
Well, it sounds like you canıt ignore them now. They are really happening!
(I too need to be reminded to believe that all things are not only possible
but highly probably, if I only ask for it.

Iıve been working on strengthening the joints in my spine so that they donıt
compress the nerves. That has been my major cause of nerve problems.

I donıt know where this idea came from, but I visualise my spine (and then
knees) hanging in space just in front of me, and then I use my finger to
Œhealı each joint by rubbing it back and forth on every side of every piece
of bone, including the spaces between the joints. Kind of weird, really,
doing it with my eyes closed as if Iım pretending, but I have been much
stronger in my spine, and my posture is much improved so it isnıt
pretending, itıs actually working. Also, much of the pain in the joints of
my body have subsided (though tonight theyıre painful, after a week of very
hot and humid weather and violent storms).

Iıve even found myself telling some of my friends over the past few days
that I can now walk down the stairs in the mornings without holding the
banister! Thatıs a major improvement for me because my knees are usually so
stiff and painful that I usually come down one step at a time, gripping the
banister for fear of falling (already done that once in the past 4 months).

I also do my Œwakeup callı every morning ­ the Immuners prayer, raising all
my energy levels to 100% perfect for me: physical energy levels, metabolic
rate, vibrational rate, spiritual level, plus whatever else comes to mind at
the time. Also remove all nerve damage/install healthy nerves. Kind of
similar to what you are doing.

Now to remove the Œflutteringı behind my ear from nerve compression in my
neck. It went away for nearly a week, but came back this evening ... Seems
that I have a choice between fluttering, a migraine or numb hands when I lie
down in bed depending on how many pillows and whether I fluff them or not,
though thereıs been less problems since doing my Œhealingı exercise.

Off to bed to do battle with this fluttering. More Immunics to the rescue.

Vivienne


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I MUST Remove my resistance to telling about my CURES!! Please understand, when
I get a cure, I worry that it just might not last but OH HAPPY DAY!!!
I have had Neuropathy in my hands for 3.5 years. I have not had any measurable
feeling in my left palm and all. I always thought that by now, it was a lost
cause. OH HOW WRONG I WAS < giant grin>
On Fri. morning suddenly I was able to feel some sensation in it!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
Granted, it is not feeling like you have but IT IS FEELING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
To me, it means it will get better.
My protocol is an adapted form of Sheriden's MS protocol!!!!  OH, my left foot
is getting more sensation toooooo!!!!

Here it is:
-Remove all the Pathologies from all the bodies.

-Remove Immune Dysfunction from all the bodies.

-Bring all my bodies to full function.

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-Remove the CAUSE of _______________ from each body individually.
Go back and check each body individually to see if they still have
CAUSE and remove them with lots of will if you do.

-Remove the EFFECTS of _______________ from each body individually.

-Remove diseased &/or damaged brain cells from each body.

-Install new brain cells in each body. This seems like "over kill", SO WHAT?
<grin>
I Remove nerve damage from each body.

I Remove nerve pain.


I remove all effects of impaired nerves.

I remove all obstacles to healthy nerves.

I Install clear neuro pathways.

I Install healthy nerves.

I remove all obstacles to full balance.

I install full balance.

And now...I REMOVE RESISTANCE TO BELIEVING MY CURES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

With Love and Gratitude!!
Gina
Join The Cure Drive. Sweep disease off the Earth. -- www.TheCureDrive.org
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HI,
It is me AGAIN!!!!!!! I am soooooooooo excited I am ready to catapult out of
this wheelchair.  My TWO MAJOR ISSUES for the last 3.5 years of this dis-easer
are painful feeling (neuropathy) in my hands and feet and balance.  Today while
I was getting out of the car at Physical Therapy, all of a sudden, I was able to
feel from the tips of my toes all the way through the arches, heels, ankles and
half way up the calves!!!!!! This feeling is not like what most people feel, BUT
any additional sensation is better than ONLY pain.

So I get into the building, get my coat off and I stand up to the walker waiting
for my PT to come. As I do, I realize that I can balance INCREDIBLY using all
those little muscles in my feet that seemed to have magically reappeared!!!!! 
My therapist walks up and I show her how I can flex my feet without loosing my
balance. Her jaw dropped!!!!!!!!

As usual we start walking down the hall towards the PT room.  I am going SOOOOOO
slow as it is extremely difficult to get used to having sooooo much sensation
again.  It would be like if you, all of a sudden, had a dozen feet.  I was
sooooooo excited I could hardly stand it!!!!!!!!!!!! We continued our session
with a bunch of hip stabilization exercises, 2 point which is on my knees,
something that had been difficult because I couldn't feel my hips very well but
today, I could feel every little twinge through my
hips!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was balancing on my knees and
then moving my arms up down around, over, opposite.... I was doing whatever I
felt like doing instead of those rather boring up, down, up down isometrics. 
Then some good music came on and I added a twinge of hip movement WITHOUT LOSING
MY BALANCE.  Suddenly I got quite overwhelmed and started to cry with JOY!!!

From there we went to the parallel bars where I walked without a walker.  The
plan was to take 2 steps and see how it went and soon, I was at the other end of
the bars. I was only lightly resting my hands on the bars, not using them to
lean on!!!!!!!!!  It is SOOOOOOOOOOOO amazing and I am soooo happy.

I've been working my DNA Codes, Removing the cause and effects of this
dis-order, Removing unhealthy & Installing healthy nerve endings, myelin sheath,
Removing trauma, Removing Interference, making all my organs my ally, as well as
doing a lot of the daily lessons Keely sends out.

I have no place to go but forward and I am thrilled to say: I'm going, I'm
going!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  HAPPY, HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!!!!! I'M GIVING THANKS TO
AND FOR ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!!!  A special thanks to Sheridan for assisting in
finding a protocol that is WORKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WITH LOVE, Gina VG
A Not for Profit Yoga of Immunity
www.immunics.org

Listen to the Cure Show
www.TheCureShow.org
Hear immunics working

Join
www.TheCureDrive.org
Sweep disease off the Earth


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Gina

Wow! thanks for writing that up for us!

You have made such wonderful progress! You are such an inspiration to us
all. Thank you :-)

After having some severe neurological disturbances a few weeks ago, things
have settled down for me again. I did lots of Immunics, with huge numbers of
removals etc, but I wasnıt really in a state to write anything down at the
time.

Since then, I havenıt had any spare time, not much sleep and some very heavy
demands on the old body, but itıs holding tight, no further problems, so
something worked!

Iıll try your suggestions for removing the muscle and joint twinges I get
whenever it feels like it.

So, thanks again

Vivienne


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HI,
It is with  great pleasure that I share my protocol with you.  To
date I have not yet been able to reduce pain to 0 but...I WILL, VERY
SOON!!!!!!

#1—FIND, REMOVE, REPAIR & RESTORE body by body –
FIND --Do I have a diseased/malfunctioning or damaged spot in my
A,B,C,D in my XX body??
If yes, I REMOVE…………
THEN, I RESTORE & REPAIR A,B,C,D in my XXX body.
THESE ORGANS/GLANDS COULD BE DIFFERENT FOR YOU BUT BRAIN MOST LIKELY
IS NOT.
A--BRAIN
B—PANCREAS
C--THYROID??
D--LIVER??

2—FIND AND REMOVE CONSUMPTION  These are bacteria eat up higher
bodies.
Remove BODY by body –-REPAIR & RESTORE XXX bodies
#3—FIND, REMOVE, REPAIR & RESTORE DNA CODES
?? Do I have any defective DNA codes in my XX body??
I REMOVE defective DNA codes from my XX body??
I REPAIR & RESTORE DNA codes in my XX body.
#4—RNA
#5–INSTALL  Proactions--any you like or test that would be good for
you.
#6-bring all bodies to FULL FUNCTION

XX=each specific body 1 at a time.
After doing this for a few days, I began to add 'Partnering with
Your Organs' stuff.  I can't believe how much better I fell.
WITH LOVE,
Gina VG

Dear Buddies,
I am taking some time off from volunteering with Immunics. I wish you
all well on your grand healing adventures and thank you for the good
care you have taken of me.
Keep on RIK'ing, babe.
Love,
Cynthia

I cured my CFIDS with a not-for-profit yoga of immunity
<http://www.immunics.org/> www.immunics.org



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