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I have made a renewed decision to do immunics for heart disease
today.......referring to "Time for a Heart Check"  wed.19,May
2004........unbelievable that i have saved this and am just getting
around to work on this challenge........thanks for listening...and any
suppose would be appreciated.......judith

Hello to everyone:

      My name is Darlane. I live in Mississippi. I have according to
my Doctors, Mitro Valve Prolaspe with a mid systolic click, CADs,
PADs, and Unstable Angina. I have had a heart attack back in 01. I
now carry 7 stints in the right pulmanary artery (which blew out
duing the heart attack.) With these problems I have severe difficulty
doing normal things. Just taking a walk brings on severe chest pain
and left leg pain. With Unstable Angina chest pains can start even
while I am sleeping. Attempting to pick up a bag of trash and placing
it outside for disposal will send me rushing for my Nitro Spray. Even
sitting here typing the angina will start up. Not fun let me tell you.
      My doctor says due to my heart problems it is now interfering
with my circulation. That is why I am having pain in my left leg and
at times my right. The Unstable Angina is so bad that my Doctor told
me I should be dead and IF I wake up it would be a miracle. He has
told me that due to the bad circulation in my left leg I will more
than likely loose my legs. (sigh)
    He told me this in Janurary of this year. I am taking my
medications but they are not a lot of help, but I am still here. Then
about 5 days ago my Anunt who I have not heard from in over 20 years
called me. Imagine my surprise!!!! I am sorry if this is a long
letter, but I have a very discriptive personality. At any rate we got
to talking and I explained to her what was going on with me. She said
she could help me and for me to go to www.immunics.com and she told
me all about it.
      Needless to say I checked it out. Boy was I surprised. The
complex made simple for all. So I tried it and follwed the
instuctions. I had a response the very first time. I was now the
football player and I had the ball. Believe me I ran with it! I
checked everything, removed many things, installed others and so on.
Mind you it has only been 5 days now. My normal Angina attacks are
about 10 to 12 per a 24 hour period. Forget about walking more than
25 feet without intense pain. Now on at 9:45PM 3/13/05 I have had ony
3 Angina Attacks all day long and I walked 1/4 mile before I felt
pain in my left leg. Now that is what I call an immunics miracle! I
am feeling better and better. Will I stop doing immunics? Not in this
lifetime.
      I have 2 children a boy and a girl, both grown ups both now
showing signs of the same problem. It runs in my family. Guess what I
will be telling them about shortly? Immunics. After them the folks in
my town well here about it as well. You see I sell Avon so most of
the women here come to visit often. I will tell them and show them
and as we all know. Tell a woman something and it will get all over
in no time flat.

Do well, Live well! Immunically!

Darlane

Moderator's note:
Hi Dave!  Welcome!

I decided to put your introduction through, but putting it through unmoderated,
it would be what the moderators call "exporting a pathology."  Let's see if our
helpful members of this group can figure out why?

It's great that you're doing Immunics now -- are you doing Immunics now?
Go do the tutorial and then test these things, then post again.

I'm testing that you don't need to have heart disease, and that believing that
you need heart disease, you're making it easier for your pathologies to rule
your life.

You're in a condition.  Remove the condition.

best to you!  get better!
Deanya, a moderator

Here's Dave's Introduction

I am the Spiritual Leader of Miracles Center of Tampa Bay
www.miraclescenter.com/ and I am constantly reminded by the things I
TEACH that I am not practicing what I preach.  I SAY "I am not a
body having a spiritual experience; I am s Spirit having a bodily
experience."

I have two stents in my right coronary artery which have been
wonderfully accepted for 4 years now.  No pain.  Yet, some old
timers tell me the stents will have to be replaced one day or I will
need open heart surgery.

My way of dealing with this has been to simply deny "they" are right
and to affirm I am whole and perfect.  I AM a WHOLE AND PERFECT
SPIRIT!  My body may, over time, dis-integrate as it becomes less
and less necessary for me to learn the lessons I came here to learn
this time.  Meantime, I am working toward healthy living habits and
have a meaningful spiritual life.

I heard about this site from a new friend with a similar belief
system whom I met at the neighborhood Bagels & Coffee Spot one
morning last week.  Isn't it interesting how we ALL have so much in
common?

My heard disease does not limit me in any way that is noticeable. sp?
It MAY even make me a better teacher of Life.

Thanks for listening.

I am very happy to be connected to all of you.

Love, Light, Laughter,
Dave

This group will take a quantum leap forward when every person in it has posted a
personal introduction made from the outline below. If you've already written
your introduction, check it over!  If any of the things below are missing, just
add them, and repost.  Your introductions mean a lot to new members, and get
them going.

-- -- --

Your Opening Introduction

Who should introduce themselves?
·       Every immunicsBuddy, for sure.
·       Moderators -- say what caused you to decide to become a moderator.
·       Every eradicator who ever goes to Web groups looking for fresh
immunicsBuddies talent -- start by posting one of these introductions.
Use, but don't be confined by, the following outline -- just try to include
everything I mention. It is not necessary to be brief; we are interested. People
are actually inspired and illuminated by your story. We also learn all kinds of
things that relate to how we can help ourselves. Please don't "palm" your
introduction. Just write it and send it. We want to know about you, that's all.
We don't need you to be a great writer, but we are hoping that, at some point,
you're absolutely terrific at curing things, and helping other people do the
same.Open up! Share yourself. You'd be surprised what an amazing immunological
boost you get from including people in your life, and in your reality, by
showing yourself this way.

Use the subject "(your name) -- My Opening Introduction," in exactly those
words, so that we can identify your introduction as such.
The basics you need to tell people -- omit if not applicable:
1.      Your name: don't reveal your full name -- use your first name, but stay
away from weird pseudonyms like "HELLCAT" or "July30-six." Why turn people off
with your name when you can use anger and coldness?
2.      Give kind of "history of your immune system:" tell what you have and/or
haven't had in the way of both disease and health, and also what things worked
for you, if any, before you discovered immunics.
3.      How did you discover immunics? Where'd you find out about it?
4.      What have you done with immunics so far? What have you cured with it?
People want to know everything that you've cured with it, no matter how trivial.
Believe it or not, some of those "trivia" are things people reading your
communication are still stuck with. If you tell somebody that they can cure
something, they often will.
5.      Have you been instrumental or influential in curing other people
with immunics? Give us all the details of that. You will find that many of your
buddies will benefit from this, because they are here partially because they
want to help someone they love cure something.
6.      Tell a little about your life: what it's been, what it is now. Are
you married? Do you have any kids? Do you get along with your kids? Stuff like
that. Knowing these things helps us to understand you in the spiritual and
emotional areas.
7.      Are you a disease activist? What social or volunteer work have you
already done to eradicate disease from the planet? What are you currently doing
to that end?
8.      Are you a health professional? If yes, tell us about what you do,
and what success you've had with it. We feel it's better for
immunicsBuddies to receive treatment somebody who will practice immunics with
them during the treatment then from other practitioners in the same field.
9.      Is there anything you need help with? Please tell us in detail. If
you need help, add the word "HELP" to the subject line of your e-mail.You will
find that, as you write, you become aware of what you're talking about a new
way, and this will greatly increase your immunological power.
And, if you're one of those people who hates to say good things about yourself,
get over it! Just say it, even if you don't believe it. We don't believe the
things we did with immunics either. Write it down, even if you're not sure of
it.It's OK to make mistakes, and communicate inaccurately.
Remember, there's no such thing as "truth," other than the "Field Of Truth"
<http://www.immunics.org/colleague/skills/skill12/field.htm>, which is one of
the most effective prisons that we find ourselves locked inside of, some of us
for life. You've known people who lived in their field of truth, and never
emerged from it before they died. Writing you induction can change that.
Happy communicating!

-- -- --

Your Friend, The World Sweeper

Response:
Dear Hyp,
What you say about starting with the basic tutorials is good and advisable.
Listen to some of the Cure Shows as basic tutorials as well.
You have to apply this immunic inquiry diligently.  Report to us any changes.
We strongly suggest that you got a buddy (or 2 or 3) with whom to work.
The members of this group have your email address now.  Perhaps you might have
buddy from one of youse other guys.

Greg
<greg@...>

Mr. Hypno3au writes:
Hi again people. Surely I am not the only one with heart arrythmia?
I have tried curing but not having much luck. I get the signals ok
and sometimes feel it is slowing down and then away it goes again.
Guess I need to really start at the basic tutorial and presevere. I
was hoping someone who had been through it could help me from here
with some basic hints. I have a pacemaker and that is not even
stopping or putting it back. Drs say to dangerous to try to do
anything on account of blood clots. I am on warfarin therapy.
Can someone out there help please??

This group will take a quantum leap forward when every person in it has posted a
personal introduction made from the outline below. If you've already written
your introduction, check it over!  If any of the things below are missing, just
add them, and repost.  Your introductions mean a lot to new members, and get
them going.

-- -- --

Your Opening Introduction

Who should introduce themselves?
·       Every immunicsBuddy, for sure.
·       Moderators -- say what caused you to decide to become a moderator.
·       Every eradicator who ever goes to Web groups looking for fresh
immunicsBuddies talent -- start by posting one of these introductions.
Use, but don't be confined by, the following outline -- just try to include
everything I mention. It is not necessary to be brief; we are interested. People
are actually inspired and illuminated by your story. We also learn all kinds of
things that relate to how we can help ourselves. Please don't "palm" your
introduction. Just write it and send it. We want to know about you, that's all.
We don't need you to be a great writer, but we are hoping that, at some point,
you're absolutely terrific at curing things, and helping other people do the
same.Open up! Share yourself. You'd be surprised what an amazing immunological
boost you get from including people in your life, and in your reality, by
showing yourself this way.

Use the subject "(your name) -- My Opening Introduction," in exactly those
words, so that we can identify your introduction as such.
The basics you need to tell people -- omit if not applicable:
1.      Your name: don't reveal your full name -- use your first name, but stay
away from weird pseudonyms like "HELLCAT" or "July30-six." Why turn people off
with your name when you can use anger and coldness?
2.      Give kind of "history of your immune system:" tell what you have and/or
haven't had in the way of both disease and health, and also what things worked
for you, if any, before you discovered immunics.
3.      How did you discover immunics? Where'd you find out about it?
4.      What have you done with immunics so far? What have you cured with it?
People want to know everything that you've cured with it, no matter how trivial.
Believe it or not, some of those "trivia" are things people reading your
communication are still stuck with. If you tell somebody that they can cure
something, they often will.
5.      Have you been instrumental or influential in curing other people
with immunics? Give us all the details of that. You will find that many of your
buddies will benefit from this, because they are here partially because they
want to help someone they love cure something.
6.      Tell a little about your life: what it's been, what it is now. Are
you married? Do you have any kids? Do you get along with your kids? Stuff like
that. Knowing these things helps us to understand you in the spiritual and
emotional areas.
7.      Are you a disease activist? What social or volunteer work have you
already done to eradicate disease from the planet? What are you currently doing
to that end?
8.      Are you a health professional? If yes, tell us about what you do,
and what success you've had with it. We feel it's better for
immunicsBuddies to receive treatment somebody who will practice immunics with
them during the treatment then from other practitioners in the same field.
9.      Is there anything you need help with? Please tell us in detail. If
you need help, add the word "HELP" to the subject line of your e-mail.You will
find that, as you write, you become aware of what you're talking about a new
way, and this will greatly increase your immunological power.
And, if you're one of those people who hates to say good things about yourself,
get over it! Just say it, even if you don't believe it. We don't believe the
things we did with immunics either. Write it down, even if you're not sure of
it.It's OK to make mistakes, and communicate inaccurately.
Remember, there's no such thing as "truth," other than the "Field Of Truth"
<http://www.immunics.org/colleague/skills/skill12/field.htm>, which is one of
the most effective prisons that we find ourselves locked inside of, some of us
for life. You've known people who lived in their field of truth, and never
emerged from it before they died. Writing you induction can change that.
Happy communicating!

-- -- --

Your Friend, The World Sweeper

Hi people, i am dazle from australia. i am in continual heart flutter
in the top chamber of my heart. Had a pacer fitted 8 years ago and my
second 12 months ago. Recently lost my Mum and now Dad is blaming me
for her death. Recently went into continual flutter which I can feel
all through my body. Pacer now won't correct it. On warfarin therapy
to prevent blood clots. Doctors advise to leave as is, because any
medical procedure too risky. i am a wreck. Too frightened to answer
the phone thinking it maybe my Dad and feeling me heart racing
absolutely flat out is rather frightening. Have been looking at
immunics site but cannot seem to find where to get started and with
what is happening to me appear to lack much concentration.
Any one else out there with similar problem/s?

This group will take a quantum leap forward when every person in it
has posted a personal introduction made from the outline below. If
you've already written your introduction, check it over!  If any of
the things below are missing, just add them, and repost.  Your
introductions mean a lot to new members, and get them going.

-- -- --

Your Opening Introduction

Who should introduce themselves?
·       Every immunicsBuddy, for sure.
·       Moderators -- say what caused you to decide to become a moderator.
·       Every eradicator who ever goes to Web groups looking for fresh
immunicsBuddies talent -- start by posting one of these introductions.
Use, but don't be confined by, the following outline -- just try to
include everything I mention. It is not necessary to be brief; we are
interested. People are actually inspired and illuminated by your
story. We also learn all kinds of things that relate to how we can
help ourselves. Please don't "palm" your introduction. Just write it
and send it. We want to know about you, that's all. We don't need you
to be a great writer, but we are hoping that, at some point, you're
absolutely terrific at curing things, and helping other people do the
same.Open up! Share yourself. You'd be surprised what an amazing
immunological boost you get from including people in your life, and in
your reality, by showing yourself this way.

Use the subject "(your name) -- My Opening Introduction," in exactly
those words, so that we can identify your introduction as such.
The basics you need to tell people -- omit if not applicable:
1.      Your name: don't reveal your full name -- use your first name,
but stay away from weird pseudonyms like "HELLCAT" or "July30-six."
Why turn people off with your name when you can use anger and coldness?
2.      Give kind of "history of your immune system:" tell what you
have and/or haven't had in the way of both disease and health, and
also what things worked for you, if any, before you discovered immunics.
3.      How did you discover immunics? Where'd you find out about it?
4.      What have you done with immunics so far? What have you cured
with it? People want to know everything that you've cured with it, no
matter how trivial. Believe it or not, some of those "trivia" are
things people reading your communication are still stuck with. If you
tell somebody that they can cure something, they often will.
5.      Have you been instrumental or influential in curing other people
with immunics? Give us all the details of that. You will find that
many of your buddies will benefit from this, because they are here
partially because they want to help someone they love cure something.
6.      Tell a little about your life: what it's been, what it is now.
Are
you married? Do you have any kids? Do you get along with your kids?
Stuff like that. Knowing these things helps us to understand you in
the spiritual and emotional areas.
7.      Are you a disease activist? What social or volunteer work have
you already done to eradicate disease from the planet? What are you
currently doing to that end?
8.      Are you a health professional? If yes, tell us about what you do,
and what success you've had with it. We feel it's better for
immunicsBuddies to receive treatment somebody who will practice
immunics with them during the treatment then from other practitioners
in the same field.
9.      Is there anything you need help with? Please tell us in
detail. If
you need help, add the word "HELP" to the subject line of your
e-mail.You will find that, as you write, you become aware of what
you're talking about a new way, and this will greatly increase your
immunological power.
And, if you're one of those people who hates to say good things about
yourself, get over it! Just say it, even if you don't believe it. We
don't believe the things we did with immunics either. Write it down,
even if you're not sure of it.It's OK to make mistakes, and
communicate inaccurately.
Remember, there's no such thing as "truth," other than the "Field Of
Truth <../../colleague/skills/skill12/field.htm>," which is one of the
most effective prisons that we find ourselves locked inside of, some
of us for life. You've known people who lived in their field of truth,
and never emerged from it before they died. Writing you induction can
change that.
Happy communicating!

-- -- --

Your Friendly World Disease Sweepers
Barb, Bayard, Cathy, Cindy, Deanya, Fran, Gina, Greg, Keely, Richard,
et al.

Greg writes back:
An immunics Buddy is someone who you do immunics with, someone who is not you. 
You test together and assist each other. She (or they) can be someone you see in
person, talk to on the phone, email, or interact with in an immunicsBuddies
group.  I live with some of my "buddies" and that makes my life extraordinary
and very health.  Others I know have their group of buddies around them in some
way.
Read "Create Confront" on the Cure Team sub-hub which you can find on the Hub
page.  I'm sure there's more on the immunics.org web college about buddies, it's
just not at my fingertips as I write.

Do you have a heart disease or condition or another health issue, medically
diagnosed or not, that you are attending to and wish to cure?

Love,
your new immBud,
Greg
<greg@...>

-- --

Monique wrote:
Hi Franny!
Thank you for your invitation. I am just beginning to be interested
in heart and pression deseases: so I have no ideas about the problem
and every thing is to be made!
I have a question: I cannot make out what the word buddy means: can
you help me?
I have not been much using the net those last months but am saving
the mail called our little church. I loved it and it answered all my
practical questions. I shall use its informations during september.
Much love to you all,
Monique