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#2334 From: "elvira52" <Elvira52@...>
Date: Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:11 am
Subject: Re: [COUNCILFIRE] Pine Ridge Reservation Radio Station Needs Our Support
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Subject: [COUNCILFIRE] Pine Ridge Reservation Radio Station Needs Our Support

Pine Ridge Reservation Radio Station
Needs Our Support
 
KILI radio, a small, but important station from the Pine Ridge reservation in South Dakota has been unable to broadcast since its transmission tower was damaged in a spring storm. $200,000 is needed to repair the tower, then matching grant funds will take care of the rest.

In the meantime thousands of local residents remain isolated without their community and cultural voice. An effort is underway to raise funds.
 
Please forward this letter to all you know, don't let it stop till we are back on the air:
 
The station is still broadcasting and is accessible through live streaming on their website. Whereas you and I and thousands across the globe can find out about the upcoming school board meeting, a majority of those in Pine Ridge cannot. Access to the Internet is simply not an option for many in this poorest of poor American Indian reservations.
 
 
United We Stand With All Americans
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#2332 From: "elvira52" <Elvira52@...>
Date: Thu Jun 15, 2006 10:51 pm
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   I myself  live in so much pain.
 
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Pain Monitor
June 2006

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THE NEWS

FDA LogoFood and Drug Administration Licenses New Vaccine to Reduce Older Americans’ Risk of Shingles
The FDA has licensed Zostavax, a new vaccine to reduce the risk of shingles (herpes zoster) for use in people 60 years of age and older.

 

Novel Research Points to Promising Relief Target for Chronic Pain
New research appearing in the Journal of Neurophysiology reported that the place to look is between the nerves that are producing the pain and the spine, rather than from the spine to the brain.

Chronic Pain Hurts Both Workers and Employers
Wayne Hochwarter, an associate professor of management in Florida State University's College of Business, has conducted several studies to examine the role of chronic pain on work factors such as job stress, employee performance and organizational profitability. He found that social stigmas and job fears help mask the true size of the problem.

Blue GlobeGlobal Problem Of Adherence To Osteoporosis Treatment Puts Lives At Risk And Costs Billions
A new report from the International Osteoporosis Foundation (IOF) details for the first time the global implications and significant personal, social and economic costs associated with women not staying on their osteoporosis treatment.

Combining Mainstream, Alternative Therapies Brings Back Pain Relief
Used together, conventional and complementary/alternative treatments help patients ease their low back pain better than using mainstream treatment alone.

Knee Replacement: Surgery Can Relieve Pain
Knee replacement surgery can help relieve pain and restore function in severely diseased knee joints.

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Study Suggests Tension Headache May Actually Be TMJD
People whose recurrent headaches have been diagnosed as tension-related actually may be suffering from temporomandibular muscle and joint disorder, or TMJD.

People Who Have Trigeminal Neuralgia Know the Depths of Chronic Pain
A little known disorder called trigeminal neuralgia causes severe facial pain.

Military Online Program Screens for Mental Health Problems
The Department of Defense launched an online Mental Health Self-Assessment Program four months ago to help service members and their families screen for mental health conditions, such as post-traumatic stress disorder. The confidential program, which is available 24/7 at no cost, is divided into subsections for depression, post-traumatic stress, anxiety, bipolar disorder and alcohol abuse. The program reviews answers to questions about recent behavior and mood, and if a user's answers indicate a possible problem, it suggests options for seeking help.

dnaScientists Look at Genetic Cause for IBS
Researchers found that nearly half of the close relatives of people suffering from irritable bowel syndrome also said they were affected by the disorder. 

Chronic Pain Syndrome Hits Women Harder
Being in pain isn’t easy and can place serious obstacles in your path. But for hundreds of thousands of Americans, mostly women, who suffer from a chronic pain syndrome known as reflex sympathetic dystrophy syndrome (RSD), the pain can be constant and excruciating, making it difficult to even get through the day.

Managing Chronic Pain Helps Arthritis Sufferers Stay Active
As joints deteriorate over time, it becomes more important for arthritis sufferers to learn how best to manage chronic pain.

Youth Overweight Increases Risk of Bone Fractures, Muscle and Joint Pain
Children and adolescents who are overweight are more likely to suffer bone fractures and have joint and muscle pains, according to a study conducted at the National Institutes of Health.

Canadian FlagCanadian RSD/CRPS Survey
Our pain community friends in Canada need help in finding out about reflex sympathetic dystophy syndrome (RSD), also known as complex regional pain syndrome (CRPS). If you are Canadian and have been diagnosed with CRPS/RSD, suspect you may have CRPS/RSD, have been diagnosed with fibromyalgia in the upper extremities or if you have similar symptoms and no diagnosis, please go to http://www.rsdcananda.org/ and complete their online survey.


LEGISLATIVE UPDATE

Capitol

Congressional Briefing On Pain Was A Success!!!

The Congressional Briefing on Pain, held June 13, 2006 on Capitol Hill, was attended by over 100 congressional staffers and pain advocates. The room was packed and over-flowing into the hall, as Rep. Mike Rogers, Rep. Charlie Norwood and featured speakers passionately shared the facts about pain, the personal and economic impact of this “silent epidemic,” and the critical need for federal pain policy and legislation. Click here for a full report.

THANK YOU to each and every one of you who responded to the Congressional Pain Briefing Alert! Over 2,000 of you responded and encouraged your Representatives to attend the briefing. BRAVO! 

We want to know! Share with us how you’d like to get involved and ways you might be able to contribute your voice and skills to our joint efforts by completing our online Advocacy Survey. By completing the Advocacy Survey, your information will: provide valuable guidance for our efforts, let us know how you might like to be involved and assist in determining how to best target your advocacy interest and experience as it is needed on important issues. We welcome your participation and look forward to working with you!


APF NEWS

flagPain has taken away all of my independence…

We understand how much pain has affected your life whether you are the one with pain, the caregiver, family member or friend.  Over a year ago we asked the question, “how has pain affected your independence?” and got many powerful replies (click here to read some of them).  We think of this again as we approach Independence Day and reflect on the injustice of the undertreatment of pain in this country.  At APF, we are not just reflecting however, we are taking action!  In collaboration with others, we orchestrated a Congressional Briefing on June 13 to educate Congress on the impact of pain in this country, the loss of independence, the financial toll, the human toll.  We brought your stories and explained the barriers to effective pain treatment, the research that needs to be done, and the education that needs to happen.

Support this and other efforts to take action against pain by donating to the American Pain Foundation.  Secure online donations can be made by clicking here.  If you prefer, you can mail your donation to: American Pain Foundation, 201 N. Charles Street, Suite 710, Baltimore, MD 21201.  Contributions to the American Pain Foundation are tax-deductible.  Look here for many more ways that you can help us in our efforts to eliminate the undertreatment of pain and help someone you love.


SCIENCE & MEDICINE

PainMedicineJournal of Pain Medicine

The Journal of Pain Medicine is offering free access for a limited time to its May 2006 supplement focusing on neuromodulation/spinal cord stimulation for chronic pain conditions, including interstitial cystitis, pelvic pain, low back pain, facial pain, headaches and RSD. The issue also includes psychological considerations and the History of Electrical Neuromodulation for Chronic Pain.

Pain Management for Sickle Cell Disease (Abstract)
The primary aim of the article review was to assess the effectiveness of pharmacological analgesic interventions for pain management in sickle cell disease, including the treatment of acute and chronic pain in children and adults.


 

APF Hosts Information Series in APF Pain Monitor
APF started its question and answer section in January 2004 with articles addressing frequently asked questions about pain, answered by Dr. Scott Fishman. These articles originally appeared on the DiscoveryHealth web site.

 

Dr. Fishman has updated three documents, originally published on the APF website in 2004. Please review the new versions:

#12 Cox-2 Inhibitors
#17 Neurontin
#18 Glucosamine and Chondroitin


COMPLEMENTARY/ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE

radioMusic May Reduce Chronic Pain
Research published in the Journal of Advanced Nursing has confirmed that listening to music can have a significant positive impact on perception of chronic pain. The study also found that music helped people feel less disabled by their condition.

 

Hypnosis, Therapy May Help Irritable Bowel Syndrome
A new study indicates that short courses of hypnosis or cognitive therapy may help to reduce the symptoms of irritable bowel syndrome.

Mastering Migraines
Can gentle, holistic healing methods really control a disease that affects 28 million Americans and costs their employers 13 billion dollars annually in lost worker productivity?


EN ESPANOL

Preguntas Frecuentes Acerca de Cistitis Intersticial

La cistitis intersticial es un problema cronico de la vejiga. Cerca de 750,000 estadounidenses tienen cistitis intersticial. La mayoria son mujeres...

FamilyDoctor.org http://familydoctor.org/e717.xml

Women's Health.gov http://womenshealth.gov/faq/spanish/intcyst.htm

Asociacion de Cistitis Intersticial http://www.ichelp.com/xit-es/LaCistitisIntersticialYLaDieta.html


WEBSITE OF THE MONTH

Health Insurance Info Net

The Georgetown University Health Policy Institute has written A Consumer Guide For Getting and Keeping Health Insurance for each state and the District of Columbia. The consumer guides are available online and will be updated periodically as changes in federal and state policy warrant. The website offers links to news, reports and information resources to help handle disputes with health plans.
http://www.healthinsuranceinfo.net.
 


UPCOMING EVENTS

August 17-19, 2006
The American Academy of Hospice and Palliative Medicine
Current Concepts in Palliative Care: Update and Review Course
Las Vegas, NV

September 7-10, 2006
17th Annual Clinical Meeting American Academy of Pain Management
Orlando, FL

September 11-12, 2006
The Fourth Scientific Meeting of The TMJ Association: A Systems Approach to the Understanding of TMJ as a Complex Disease
Bethesda, MD

September 14-16, 2006
Trigeminal Neuralgia Association 6th National Conference
Portland, OR


RESOURCES

rsdsalogoReflex Sympathetic Dystrophy Syndrome Association Resources
RSDSA Support Group Newsletter, May/June 2006 Issue

Resource Directory: In Pain, Out of Work and Can't Pay the Bills
PDF version and Web version

Handbook of Health SWThe Handbook of Health Social Work Published by Wiley & Sons
The Handbook of Health Social Work, a professional textbook, provides a comprehensive and evidence-based overview of contemporary social work practice in health care. Written from a wellness perspective, the chapters cover the spectrum of health social work settings including with contributions on pain management and palliative care (written by Terry Altilio, MSW, ACSW, Shirley Otis-Green, MSW, ACSW, Susan Hedlund, MSW and Iris Cohen-Fineberg, PhD) and end of life care (written by Yvette Col?n, MSW, APF's Director of Education & Internet Services). The textbook offers both a foundation for social work practice in health care and a guide for strategy, policy, and program development. Order a copy now!


VOICES OF PEOPLE WITH PAIN

PainAid Online Support
Join our vibrant community and share discussion and your personal stories with others affected by pain. Here you will find: Conference Rooms (regularly scheduled chats on a range of issues); Discussion Boards (threaded message boards on a broad range of topics); and Ask the Expert feature (pose questions to licensed healthcare professionals). 
PainAid is staffed by highly qualified volunteers with a range of backgrounds, all of whom either live with chronic pain or care for people who do. Visit PainAid!

Be sure to check out the VOICES section of our website!  New personal stories are added weekly!


Thank you to our medical/science editor, Peter J. Vicente Ph.D., ABPP.


It's not too late to join our mailing list by completing our "Get Involved" form. Please forward this to a friend who might be interested in our publications and projects.

Share with us how you’d like to get involved and ways you might be able to contribute your voice and skills to our joint efforts by completing our online Advocacy Survey. We welcome your participation and look forward to working with you!

The American Pain Foundation is an independent, nonprofit organization that relies upon private donations to fund its programs, services, and distribution of educational materials. There are millions of people who live with unrelieved chronic pain. If you can help, please make a donation to the American Pain Foundation. For other ways you can support APF’s work, please visit our website at www.painfoundation.org.

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#2331 From: "elvira52" <Elvira52@...>
Date: Sun Jun 4, 2006 5:53 pm
Subject: Fw: [UNIVERSALHUMANRIGHTS] McKinne...
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The Right to Human Enhancement
And also uplifting animals and the rapture of the nerds.


Palo Alto—Last week an exhilarating and perplexing mixture of visionaries, philosophers, transhumanists, legal scholars, and technophiles along with some crackpots and naysayers gathered for a two day meeting at Stanford University's Law School to ponder the future of human enhancement and posthumanity. The occasion was the Human Enhancement Technologies and Human Rights (HETHR) conference. HETHR featured lectures ranging from sober discussions of the parental rights and the consent of the unborn and future generations, to the use of steroids and gene enhancement in sports and constitutional rights to enhancements, to uplifting animals to human level intelligence and uploading our personalities and memories into computer networks.

I was invited to participate on the opening plenary panel to argue over human rights in the enhanced future with William Hurlbut, a member of the President's Council on Bioethics and culture critic Erik Davis, author of TechGnosis: Myth, Magic, and Mysticism in the Age of Information.

Briefly, I came out full force for a biotech enhanced future. I argue that there are no ethical reasons for forbidding people in the future to use safe biotech enhancements to alter their personalities, abolish sleep, increase their physical strength, boost their intelligence and memories, change their sex, live much longer healthier lives, and even change the number of their chromosomes. I also argued that in general it would be ethical for parents to use safe biotech to enhance their children in these ways as well.

Erik Davis offered the Matrix metaphor in which Morpheus offers Neo either a blue pill or a red pill. Davis' apparent implication is that refusing the new biotechnologies is like taking the blue pill—the human condition, the cycle of birth, life and death continues as it always has. Going forward with biotech progress is the equivalent of taking the red pill, ushering humanity into a posthuman future in which the verities of birth, life and death are up for grabs. Davis hinted that perhaps choosing the red pill of biotech will reveal unpleasant truths about the world that we would rather not know. (In contrast, I believe that there are no dangerous truths.) Davis pointed out that the choices before us catch us in a confused balance between nostalgia and exhilarating expectations. Davis worried that postmodern humanity has lost the grand narratives that used to give meaning to life for most people.

William Hurlbut fulfilled his role as naysayer. He sourly asked, "Biotech progress will give us freedom for what; enhancement for what?" He suggested that the sorts of enhancements people would choose would not be ennobling, but instead "draw us down the gradient of our appetites." Desires, explained Hurlbut, are purposeful passions that drive us to meet the essential needs of the body and of species continuity. True enough, but he warned that desire liberated by biotech from the constraints of nature could lead to lives of empty pleasures and/or intensified competition in the name of selfish ambition.

Actually, Davis had earlier essentially answered Hurlbut's fears about meaninglessly "enhanced" lives. Davis acknowledged that biotech progress will produce a multiplication of choices including more trivial choices, but real challenges are not going to go away. The events that arise out of fate are not going to stop—random events, good and bad, to which we must respond will not stop coming just because people are healthier, smarter and longer lived. All of us will still have to confront things we do not choose. In other words, the shape of the human narrative will change, but there will always be new hardships and life will not be drained of meaning. In any case, humanity will progress with biotech as it has with all past technologies—by trial and error—and if it turns out that some new biotech treatment actually is an apathogen, that is, it induces a sense of purposelessness or meaninglessness, then people will not choose it.

The HETHR meeting was a big tent affair drawing representatives from a wide spectrum of political ideologies. As such it is a hard event to cover, so let me briefly touch on just some highlights. As a libertarian I was as exotic as a kangaroo to many of the more leftish participants. As an example of the tone, several of the male speakers ostentatiously began their talks by insisting that they were feminists. Most agreed with the politically correct bioethical position that the United States desperately needs universal government health insurance. Never mind that the countries that have it are lagging behind in biomedical research. And of course, there was the obligatory ritual of rhetorical self-flagellation over the fact that there were not enough women and ethnic minority participants at the conference.

Nevertheless, a lot of interesting philosophical and legal analysis concerning the right to use enhancing technologies was presented at the conference. One of the conference organizers, James Hughes, executive director of the Institute for Ethics and Emerging Technologies (IEET) pointed out that some bioconservative ethicists are arguing that making inheritable changes to the human genome should be declared a crime against humanity. He pointed out that arguments that we must preserve the "integrity" of the human genome sound eerily familiar to old-fashioned racist arguments against miscegenation.

Representatives from another sponsor of the HETHR conference, the Center for Cognitive Liberty and Ethics (CCLE), organized several sessions arguing that we have fundamental right to control our own brains. Of course this principle stands in stark opposition to the failed War on Drugs. CCLE senior fellow Richard Glen Boire played a video of a violent police raid on an electronic dance party in Utah. Their crime? Some of the dancers were apparently using the empathogen Ecstasy.

Boire warned that the Drug War would pale in comparison to the looming war on neuropharmaceutical enhancements. Boire also pointed out that biotech is already being used to devise "neurocops" that is, compounds that will police the blood/brain barrier for improper molecules—say, molecules of cocaine or alcohol Such treatments clearly have a place for people who choose to use them to help regain control over their drug use, but should the government have the power to impose them on its citizens? It depends.

I offer three cases for your consideration. Case One: Someone caught driving recklessly drunk—the court gives this person a choice—a year in jail or a regimen of naltrexone. Case Two: A parent decides to vaccinate her child with an anti-cocaine vaccine at age 10. Case Three: Public health officials mandate that every child receives an anti-cocaine vaccination with her mumps, measles and rubella vaccinations.

The HETHR conference was not devoted to just defining and defending human and posthuman rights—some visionary and, some might say, really eccentric proposals were also on offer. For example, George Dvorsky, deputy editor of Betterhumans, argued that using biotech to enhance just human consciousness is not enough—humanity has the moral responsibility to use biotech to lift the veil of brute ignorance from the animals. "It would be negligent of us to leave animals behind to fend for themselves in the state of nature," declared Dvorsky.

In uplifting animals, Dvorsky explained, we must avoid creating subhumans. Specifically we must not use biotech to create happy slaves, creatures with constrained or predetermined psychologies, or beings to be used for demeaning or dangerous work. His project is reminiscent of sci-fi novelist David Brin's The Uplift Wars in which throughout the galaxies one sapient species after another uses genetic engineering to uplift non-sapient species to sapiency. In Brin's books, humanity uplifts dolphins and chimps. In his talk Dvorsky was pretty catholic in wanting to spread sapiency around, even suggesting that cows might be uplifted if we gave them hands. Even if Dvorsky's project were possible, I fear that well-meaning would-be uplifters are much more likely to create simulacra of diminished humans rather than creatures that are the moral equivalent of humans. And I shudder to think what might happen if the uplifters overshot and created cows that are smarter than we are.

The feasibility of the so-called Rapture of the Nerds—uploading our consciousnesses into cyberspace—was also discussed at the conference. One proponent is Martine Rothblatt, who is a genuine visionary. She has helped launch several satellite networks, including the satellite radio network Sirius, and also founded the biotech company United Therapeutics. She is also proudly a postoperative transsexual and author of The Apartheid of Sex.

Her talk entitled "Of Genes, Bemes and Conscious Things" outlined a future in which human consciousnesses are uploaded into computers. Her neologism "beme" is modeled after Richard Dawkin's meme. Memes are units of cultural transmission and Rothblatt's bemes are "fundamental, transmissible, mutable units of beingness." Heideggerian bytes if you will. Bemes consist of smiles, the taste of lasagna, the memory of a first bike ride and so forth. According to Rothblatt, just as genes spell out matter, bemes spell out mind.

Rothblatt suggested that bemes could be eventually captured and stored by more sophisticated wearable recording systems like the MyLifeBits project being developed at Microsoft by Gordon Bell. Researchers are also working on creating a bouquet of nanowires that could be threaded through the capillaries of the brain to monitor and record the activities of individual brain cells. Rothblatt proposes that the output of those brain cells could be stored and retrieved later for uploading as bemes. Rothblatt acknowledged that bemes would need to uploaded into mindware to become conscious. Of course, mindware doesn't yet exist, but she's pretty sure that computer guru Ray Kurzweil's prediction that machines with human-level intelligence will be produced over the next couple of decades is accurate. Thus we will be able to "beme" ourselves up into cyberspace. How will we know that the uploaded "bemans" are conscious? Rothblatt has no doubt: "Consciousness is like pornography; we know it when we see it."

In the end, telling visionaries from crackpots is never an easy task. But I find mingling with people who are wildly hopeful about the future is intellectually invigorating. Transhumanists are the sort of folks who eagerly embrace 19th century British chemist Michael Faraday's maxim: "Nothing is too wonderful to be true if it be consistent with the laws of nature." And some of the visions painted at the HETHR conference are wonderful—they foresee a future filled with smarter, happier, and more creative people.

Erik Davis is wrong about the demise of grand narratives. As a nascent philosophical and political movement, Transhumanism epitomizes our most daring, courageous, imaginative, and idealistic aspirations. The Transhumanist quest to liberate future generations from the immemorial curses of disease, disability and early death is a new grand narrative worthy of humanity and posthumanity.


Ronald Bailey is Reason's science correspondent. His book Liberation Biology: The Scientific and Moral Case for the Biotech Revolution is now available from Prometheus Books.


#2330 From: "elvira52" <Elvira52@...>
Date: Fri Jun 2, 2006 3:15 am
Subject: Re: Fw: [theblacklist-e] Fwd: FT LAUDERDALE POLICE UNION WANTS TO HIJACK LOCAL NAACP CHAPTER....
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1.''We believe the majority of police officers do good work in a demanding
job, but there are always those bad apples,'' she said. ``We are concerned
about the victims of those bad apples.''


HUMmmmmmm,

The NAACP sure fooled me they didn't do a thing about what happen to me at
the Clinton Fund Raiser 2/7/02 I was falsely arrested and ended up with a
neck and two injuries to my back and no medical help!?. To this day I live
in so much pain Where was the NAACP I bed them for help ended up Homeless
Living in Mold the list goes on and I was a Member? paid member I also
worked the Poll's as a Poll watcher for the NAACP yet what I had to
report!?.

N= NO
A= Aid to the
A= Afflicted
C=Counting on
P= Protection
NAACP the Meaning


WETHEPEOPLE

Elvira

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Subject: Re: Fw: [theblacklist-e] Fwd: FT LAUDERDALE POLICE UNION WANTS TO
HIJACK LOCAL NAACP CHAPTER....


> At 10:24 06-01-06, you wrote:
>>My Vote Would Go To AL CALLOWAY.
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>>WETHEPEOPLE
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>>ELVIRA
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>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: <mailto:gangbox@...>The Infamous Vinnie Gangbox
>>Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 10:40 AM
>>Subject: [theblacklist-e] Fwd: FT LAUDERDALE POLICE UNION WANTS TO HIJACK
>>LOCAL NAACP CHAPTER....
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>>from the MIAMI HERALD:
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>>FORT LAUDERDALE
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>>Police union president: Join NAACP, dump leader
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>>The Fort Lauderdale police union president wants officers to join the
>>local NAACP and oust the group's leader.
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>>BY TODD WRIGHT
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>>The e-mail sent by Lt. Alfred Lewers Jr. was meant to encourage fellow
>>Fort Lauderdale police officers to join the local NAACP to improve
>>strained relations between police and the civil-rights group.
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>>But a late-night addition to the recruitment letter may have created an
>>even wider rift between the organization and the police group.
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>>Union President Jack Lokeinsky added a paragraph to the top of Lewers'
>>e-mail, saying the Fort Lauderdale Fraternal Order of Police is ``tired of
>>the current position of the President of the Broward Branch of the NAACP.
>>In an effort to vote out the President and her views of the police I
>>support the membership drive.''
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>>Marsha Ellison, the current president of the Fort Lauderdale branch, is
>>near the end of her two-year term. She plans to run for reelection in
>>November.
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>>''Everyone is appalled by this,'' Ellison said Wednesday. ``Why a
>>predominantly white organization is trying to dictate who will run the
>>NAACP, I don't know. Why would the police department want to infiltrate
>>and take over the NAACP?''
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>>The strife may have come to a head in August, when Fort Lauderdale police
>>investigated Officer Robert Hoffman, accused of racial slurs and
>>threatening a black youth. Ellison pushed to have Hoffman fired. He was
>>suspended for a month without pay.
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>>Ellison's actions angered Lokeinsky. He said Wednesday that prompted him
>>to suggest the union members should join the organization to help pick the
>>leadership.
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>>`NOT A POWER PLAY'
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>>''It's absolutely not a power play,'' said Lokeinsky, a former member of
>>the NAACP who decided to drop his membership when Ellison became president
>>two years ago. ``The only way to have a voice is to become a member. It
>>has nothing to do with the current president.''
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>>If the 470 active members of the union would have joined in time to
>>participate in the NAACP's November 2004 elections, the group would have
>>been able to essentially control the vote. Some 300 NAACP members cast
>>votes.
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>>Anyone can join the organization by paying $30 in dues.
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>>The initial membership drive was the brainchild of the NAACP Youth Council
>>to help smooth over problems between police and blacks.
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>>In February, area youths mingled with Broward Sheriff's deputies and Fort
>>Lauderdale police at a community event called ''Stop the Violence,''
>>sponsored by the Youth Council.
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>>Afterward, everyone agreed the best way for law enforcement officers to
>>improve their image among the youth would be to join the civil-rights
>>group, said Gwen Watson, the group's advisor.
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>>''We basically told them they need to be members. Then Jack sent out his
>>thing,'' she said. ``It's unfortunate. It's not a good situation.''
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>>NO COMMENT
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>>Lokeinsky declined to discuss why he decided to add his comments to
>>Lewers' e-mail.
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>>''My position is that we need to form a stronger bond with the youth in
>>the neighborhoods we patrol, and we need a stronger voice in the NAACP,''
>>he said.
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>>Ellison responded to Lokeinsky's criticisms Tuesday at a police union
>>meeting.
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>>''We believe the majority of police officers do good work in a demanding
>>job, but there are always those bad apples,'' she said. ``We are concerned
>>about the victims of those bad apples.''
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>>Miami Herald staff writer Darran Simon contributed to this report.
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Vote lawsuit centering on intent

Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, October 20, 2004
FORT LAUDERDALE Ñ — Resurrecting arguments from Florida's 2000 presidential election dispute, lawyers and witnesses sparred in federal court Tuesday over determining "voter intent" during ballot recounts.
In a new twist for 2004, however, Secretary of State Glenda Hood's defense team said subjective judgments about intent have been replaced by a more objective standard of "definite choice."
 
 
 
The issue is central to a lawsuit by U.S. Rep. Robert Wexler, D-Delray Beach, that claims paperless electronic voting is unconstitutional.
Wexler's suit names Hood, Palm Beach County Elections Supervisor Theresa LePore and Indian River County Elections Supervisor Kay Clem as defendants.
In the 15 Florida counties that use touch-screen voting machines, Wexler wants U.S. District Judge James Cohn to order changes — possibly including giving voters the option of casting paper ballots — in time for the Nov. 2 election.
In a close election, Florida law says, paper ballots that go uncounted by tabulating machines can be examined by hand to see if they have any markings that would allow a canvassing board to find "clear indication on the ballot that the voter has made a definite choice."
Electronic systems don't produce paper ballots, but they can provide a printed post-election report showing how ballots were cast and whether a voter cast an undervote, which is a ballot in which no vote is registered in a race.
Hood's attorneys argue that those post-election reports satisfy the state's manual recount law. Wexler says the printouts are inadequate because voters never interacted with them and they provide no evidence of a voter's intent.
Wexler attorney Jeffrey Liggio repeatedly grilled witnesses on the intent question Tuesday. The state's witnesses argued the question is moot.
"With a (touch screen), the square next to the candidate is either marked or not marked. So there's never a question of voter intent," said Michael Shamos, a Carnegie Mellon computer science professor hired by the state at $475 an hour as an expert witness.
Shamos also testified that electronic voting is more reliable and less susceptible to fraud than paper systems.
Liggio asked Pasco County Elections Supervisor Kurt Browning about a Division of Elections report showing that touch-screen voters were far more likely to cast undervotes in the 2002 governor's race than voters who used paper optical-scan ballots. Liggio focused on the 1,562 touch-screen undervotes in Pasco County and asked Browning if he knew the reason for them.
"Intentional choice undervotes? Mistake undervotes? Error undervotes or combination of all three?" Liggio asked.
"They're undervotes," Browning replied.
"We don't know if they were intentional or a mistake?" Liggio continued.
"I don't know," Browning said.
Later, Liggio pursued the same line of questioning with Paul Craft, the chief of voting systems certification for the Division of Elections, who testified from Tallahassee via videoconferencing.
Looking at a report showing undervote totals in an election, Liggio asked, "Would it show the voter intent of the undervote?"
"I don't know if that's really relevant. You know, we keep bandying about this voter-intent thing," Craft responded.
He noted that, in Florida's 2001 election reform, the words "voter intent" were replaced in the recount statute by the language about a "clear indication" of a "definite choice."
"You are interpreting the new Florida statute to say that voter choice is different from voter intent?" Liggio asked Craft later.
"I can read and see the Legislature made a change," Craft said.
Outside court, attorneys for Hood said they believe there is a difference between "intent" and "choice," with the latter standard being met by the printouts from touch screens.
"There's no difference in my mind," Liggio said.
Cohn said he expects the trial to conclude today. The judge has not indicated when he might issue a ruling.

   
 


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POOP ROLLS DOWNHILL
If you read this and "The Illinois Condo Act" and still would like
to buy a condo, buy this one, STUPID

April 16, 2006

By Jack D. Flanigan (View author info)
Copyright Jack D. Flanigan
AHRC News Services - San Juan Capistrano,CA

Glen Ellyn, Illinois -
It all started in November of 1984. That's when I closed on my condo
that's a stones throw from the College of DuPage in beautiful Glen
Ellyn, Illinois.

Right from the start there were problems and not all from neighbors
either. The worst was when sewer was coming up in my utility room.
It was always water, so there I am looking for a leak or drip.
Nothing. Then one day I get home from work and see human feces
floating in the utility room. The builder was still on site. I gave
them a call along with the plumbing company. The plumber that came
out to rod the line, said he could feel something bouncing off the
auger, but would have to come back. On Monday morning all parties
involved were present. Did the same thing and got the same results.
When everyone started packing up and saying next time we'll get it I
went and called the DuPage County Health Department. Good call. The
builder ended up breaking up the floor in the next unit and
extracting a 1 liter pop bottle from the main line. Seems the bottle
would float up and back along the main and occasionally block the
leader to the street. I found out that day that my unit was the
lowest point in the building. Should have sold it right then. Poop
rolls downhill.

The couple that moved in above me were typical yuppies, except they
bought all their appliances at Sears. Including a water softener,
which they installed on their own. You probably guessed it if you're
familiar with that ancient piece of equipment, dated prior to lake
water. The discharge hose was cut flush with the floor. I'm not sure
how much water got discharged during the cycle but I know that 99.9%
of it ended up in my unit, dropping the utility room ceiling. Great.
Should have sold it right then. Poop rolls downhill.

They left and bought a yuppie house in town. That unit changed hands
a few times. A divorced woman and her daughter moved in. Really
quiet people. Then their water heater broke. On the Friday before
Labor Day weekend yet! Well a licensed plumber wannabe came out and
shut the water off TWICE. Yup, turned it off and then turned it back
on to drain over night. The next day 40+ more gallons of water
managed to drop the ceiling in the master bath and the utility room
yet again. They had a somewhat respectable insurance company who
replaced everything. Should have sold it then. Poop rolls downhill.

They moved out of state and sold to another mom and daughter duo. A
180 from them. Lots of liquor, lots of noise, lots of mother
daughter fights. Lots of teenage parties till 6 AM. The time I had
to leave for work. Nothing wet ever fell during their stay, but Poop
rolls downhill still ruled.

They sold to the current occupants. A 30 something married couple.
They're still here, now they're 40 something and unfortunately so am
I. They dropped the ceiling in the master bath twice. The last time
revealing a mold spot that would scare FEMA. Their insurance
company, the good hands people kept their hands in their pockets and
saved themselves about $500. Eventually hiding behind the Illinois
Condo Act. It timed in perfectly with the condo attorney's mention
of that anti-american legislation. So, I had already read it and
knew exactly what it said, but didn't feel like exerting energy for
that menial amount. When bigger issues loomed throughout the unit.
Poop rolls downhill

Seems in January of 2005 I had water in my heating ducts cause of
major exterior maintenance flaws. It was terrible. I had ice on the
inside of my sliding glass door. I had water running down my walls.
Every time I'd open the front door it looked like I'd opened a steam
room door. I ended up pumping approximately 350 to 400 gallons of
water out of my heating ducts. I missed about 2 weeks of work cause
it was January, I caught the worst cold. Sure I had called the
property management company. "Would a plumber be able to help you?"
was their only question. They eventually sent an engineer who had
made some very alarming observations, who's importance seemed to
disappear over time. Anyway that situation created the mold problem
in my unit. I was already dealing with the board with that situation
or so I thought. Seems the board put that on the back burner. They
were not aware that moisture causes mold.????? I went to a few of
the condo meetings to be belittled and told to get an attorney. Why?
Am I the enemy? I just wanted the cause fixed. Why do I need an
attorney?

Maybe their attorney, who's firm is widely accredited in the Chicago
area for Condo Law needed to explain how their client broke several
of the golden rules of Home Owner Association protocol.

Well I really needed one so I could deal with all the B.S. (and
that's not bachelors of science either) that was being thrown my
way. Seems once I had the place tested for mold and it came back
with elevated amounts of Stochybotrys, black toxic mold I was
without a doubt the enemy. But of course I didn't know because as
you can already guess I'm just sooooo STUPID.

Getting an attorney isn't that easy. Insurance companies don't
really cover mold anymore. All my true damage was caused by the
flooding anyway. Since I'm not in a flood plain and don't have flood
insurance. The water entered the building through faulty common
element. Leaving the association's insurance liable, but did anyone
call them??? Poop rolls downhill.

And speaking of damage. Everything I own is damaged. Most, but not
all the furniture had to be tossed cause of mold or it was
decomposing cause of excessive moisture. My dog has dermatitis and
asthma. That's right, a german shepherd with asthma? I have a pair
of Klipsch speakers that survived the moisture but were later tagged
by a contractor hired by the board. They chipped and dinged them up.
Thanks, poop rolls down hill.

Home Owner Associations are mini Fascists governments, which like
large Fascist governments are impossible to deal with. There is a
lot of work involved because of The Illinois Condo Act too, I may be
wrong but I think it was written by a guy named Adolph or something
like that. So anyway my sister who is a contract attorney tried to
help. It was nothing short of ugly. From what I've read from the
boards attorney, I'd say he's between the ages of 10 and 14 years
old. All that law school to write childish, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah,
letters. But, I was the enemy and I still didn't get it. the board
hired their own mold guy, The Mold Sensationalist Road Show. I moved
all my belongings out and me and the dog slept on my mom's floor.
The results of Mr. Sensationalist Mold Guy were radioactive. They
told me I shouldn't live there, it's unhealthy. Nobody should be in
the vicinity of my unit without full body armor. Except my neighbors
and myself of course. After The MR. Mold Guy Road Show gave his
thoughts I remediated the inside. Big mistake. Should have found a
really good litigating real estate lawyer and sued for 200 cazillon
dollars or called a TV Action line either way it would have been
easier.

The problem of course is "The Illinois Condo Act". Our declaration
and the Illinois Condo Act do not say exactly the same thing as I
read it. I plead ignorance. I never knew The Illinois Condo Act
existed till it was too late. According to their attorney the
association owns the inside walls. Even though The Illinois Condo
Act states that unless stated otherwise in another condo instrument
the association owns the drywall. Apparently he didn't understand
that part. I don't think anybody does. If they do own it you'd think
they'd take better care of it wouldn't you? Our declaration says The
unit owner owns everything not structural or that is solely for
their unit. ??? Regardless as the unit owner I still have to
maintain it, and if it's damaged, soggy, or moldy it has to be
replaced and the sooner the better.

It took eight days to tear down, clean, re-insulate, and sheet rock.
I've got it all on video too. Pictures of moldy studs, moldy
insulation, and soggy drywall. As a benefit I have pictures of the
poor craftsmanship the builders supplied, something not readily
associated with this upscale community. You're lucky you're reading
it though, trust me. I'll never be asked to be a cameraman that's
for sure. I had a guy tape and mud the walls, he did an excellent
job. The walls are better looking now than they ever were. But, all
the time I'm the enemy and I think we're going to work together and
beat back the big bad mold monster. Boy am I STUPID. Poop rolls
downhill

September 9th, 2005 a forensic engineer from a consulting firm spent
most of the day in my unit with all kinds of measuring devices. I
figured they were trying to blame anyone they could. I've had it
retested for mold, to prove it's gone, just in case it comes back.
It's gone. The engineer's report puts all the blame on the lack of
proper exterior maintenance and poor craftsmanship. Because my unit
was the only one checked out, it was the only one with mold. Yea,
right. I didn't ever sue , but I'm still the enemy. Poop rolls
downhill.

If you stop and look at the time frame of events you'll notice my
health or any other concerns were never of any importance. The
moisture entered in January, after attending a few condo meetings
and seeing no movement I had it tested on July 25th. That's 7
months. They had The Mr. Mold Road Show test it August 18th. 8
months. September 9th, through the 30th (9.5 months) the forensic
engineer tried to blame someone other than the board, to no avail.
Now I sit here and wonder when the board is going to solve the
problems. If this time frame continues the mold will most certainly
come back. I suppose one wouldn't want to act too hastily. After
all, none of them are living it. Just some darn unit owner. Damn
those unit owners. It took 58 weeks before they started to repair
the outside. And that was just to fix the gutter drainage. And
that's all they've done too. Poop rolls downhill.

On January 19th, 2006 the consulting firm came back to find and fix
the water leak from above the patio door. They busted a hole in the
new drywall and found rotted wood on the floor of the unit above. I
guess it's easier to ruin perfectly good drywall than to ruin a
rotted floor you're going to have to remove anyway. They did find
the leak though. Their industrial hygienist was a fountain of
egotistical information. Yet she may have taken her 1st ambient air
test under unstable conditions. As both the front and back doors
were open for quite awhile just before her taking the sample. She
was lipping me for using the CDC site for my references. I'm sorry
but if I have to go to court over this, the CDC site holds more
respect than say an employee from a consulting firm. They put on a
good show for me regardless. The forensic engineer, is still the
only professional. The containment tent really didn't "contain
anything." There is a vent in the floor that wasn't sealed off. Now
there is a hole in the ceiling in the "contained area" and there are
holes in the utility room and currently there are holes in the
master bath. They walked in and out of it often leaving the zippered
door open. The old saying "actions speak louder than words" comes to
mind through out this whole story. It was like "ER", it looked
impressive but wasn't professionally correct. The forensic engineer
found the leak by holding toilet paper up to the ceiling, no
kidding. It just seems to fit doesn't it . Poop rolls downhill.

The preliminary results were the patio door upstairs needed
replacing and the flashing and trim work needs to be corrected. DA!
That much damage for the obvious. They did see the wood being rotted
and a non air born mold spot before removing the door though. I feel
like the board just wants to mess with me for drying out the swamp
and not waiting to die of mold exposure.


On January 31,'06 the property management company told me the door
was going to take 4 weeks to have it installed. Apparently 6 ft.
brown anodized aluminum sliding glass doors are now custom. The cost
for the people upstairs is $1900. Yes, that is nineteen hundred
dollars for a 6 ft aluminum brown framed sliding glass door.
Unbelievable isn't it? They also told me the remediating will be
scheduled tomorrow. Of course all of this is because I started
calling 3 times a day reporting my displeasure with my living
conditions. The blower that was left in the tent was louder than
most people could bear. If I had put the blower there, I would have
been fined by the board for excessive noise. But since their
contractor put it there, tough tomatoes. Poop rolls down hill.

February 1st, no replies from the property management company. no
scheduled remediating, no returned phone calls. Once again, I'm
shocked. Poop rolls downhill.

On Saturday February 4, 2006 the property management company called
to schedule remediating. I chose Wednesday February 8. After
listening to the noise for 2 weeks and missing 4 days of work for
lack of sleep now the board offers a hotel room. Once again showing
their concern. I don't think these people can defecate and do the
paperwork in 1 day. On February 3rd I had put up a styrofoam sound
barrier. It really helped a lot. Before the styrofoam the noise
level was 80 decibels. 85 for 8 hours a day has shown signs of
hearing loss. Now it 's 72-74 in the dining room. Now it sounds like
a fan instead of a vacuum. Now if I exhaust it outside??? Poop rolls
downhill.

On February 8th at about 9:15 AM the crew showed up. 45 minutes
late. Did they use the highly accredited dry-ice blast? NO! Did they
take the whole day? NO! Did they look remotely professional? NO!
Apparently they read the CDC sight also. They first sanded the
header board with a palm sander, basically removing the remainder of
the liquid nails from the builder. Then they washed everything down
with liquid detergent. They even vacuumed the rug corner with a hepa
vacuum, wow! 90 minutes later, done. No joke, done. Poop rolls
downhill.

But what about the hole in the sub floor up there? Not my job man.
Well maybe we'll be back to cover it on Friday evening. No, maybe
Saturday morning. The industrial hygienist will take air samples on
Monday. If they come back high it's because of that rotted floor.???
If you see it why test? Heck of a job. Really professional. Poop
rolls down hill.

Ok, Saturday say 10:15 AM. Encapsulate the rotted wood.???? Try
paint the rotted wood. Doesn't sound as impressive does it? You
should note that neither the CDC or the EPA recommends painting over
or caulking over mold. In fact they specifically denounce the
practice. Poop rolls downhill.

The Industrial Hygienist returned on Monday. She tested the garage
attic, my unit and the unit above. I had found the mold in the
garage attic, my concern however was a possible roof leak not
toxicity. The unit upstairs I had tested previously looking for a
possible mold life line noting the first engineer's report of
excessive moister in the windows of all 4 units. She however was now
obviously informed of who was paying her as now mold was no big
deal. Of course the encapsulated ceiling passed. It would only have
failed if seen by the CDC or EPA. Poop rolls downhill.

Tuesday night and no heat. Now what? Oh! you're kidding, rusty
connectors and excessive dust! Poop rolls downhill.

One thing that really bothers me is how all the investigating from
latest batch of engineers took place where the water ended up.
That's like having a flooded basement and blaming the basement for
the flood. That was the boards way of saying it's only one unit. Too
bad for that dope. So that's why I had the unit upstairs tested. Of
course it tested positive. One of the rules is to treat all unit
owners the same. So when the board sent the letter explaining the
mold in unit 8, they told everyone that I paid for the first test.
Why? Were they trying to show everyone that good neighbors help each
other out? I don't think so. But that letter is from their attorney.
Sometimes children don't know when to keep quiet. The unit did test
for high levels of fungi, but no toxic mold? Still, it needed to be
remediated. Doesn't even sound right does it? It's not bad, but we
still have to clean it up. No toxic mold, just high levels of fungi,
but it needs to be remediated. ? Sounds like the board needs to read
the sites. The CDC and EPA don't differentiate between types of
mold, just concentrations. Elevated is bad no matter what kind. To
me the test showed a definite moisture line between the walls. Poop
rolls downhill.

The couple upstairs are barely making it. I paid for the first test.
Just like the bathroom ceiling money I'll never get it back. Except
for the fact that it proves my point.

To assume all that water came through a small crack in the
foundation is idiotic. The only way for that much water to get under
the slab was from the roof via between the walls. Which is now
proven cause of the mold found upstairs and in the garage attic Poop
rolls downhill

The new door upstairs is in, but of course nobody replaced the sub
floor which was the cause for the new door in the first place. Nor
was anyone on site to check the structure or work performed. So now
it appears that the framing around the door is rotted. Good job door
guys. The remediating company cut out some of the encapsulated wood
leaving a few nice holes between the units. Kinda creating a garbage
can for their refuse. I didn't really enjoy cleaning up their mess
either as it fell through the sturdy plastic covering on this end.
Poop rolls downhill.

So here's a little question for you. If the upstairs unit has
a "containment tent around their patio door and they have holes in
the floor and I have a hole in my ceiling where I can see out their
patio door, but no tent. Is the board trying to kill me? Maybe, and
that would be the only way the city, state, or federal officials
will get involved. Ahhh! To be all alone. Poop rolls downhill.

Home Owner Association are supposed to make sure all the common
elements are maintained at all times. Sure, sometimes they'll have
to ask for expert advise. That doesn't mean they can't question it
or get a second opinion. One would hope that something as serious as
water intrusion would be handled quickly. I don't think 16 months
and counting could be considered quickly. Had the situation been
handled quickly I would have never lost all my stuff, tested for
mold, and lost all my respect and confidence in the HOA system. Poop
rolls downhill.

Funny thing is there seems to be more clowns by the day. The
remediating company has the tent along with a few clowns, "THE MR.
MOLD ROAD SHOW" had the king of clowns and the door company
obviously has a few too. The clowns on the board and management
company, well that says it right there. The boards attorney, well
he's not really a clown. There is a word that describes him but it
can't be printed in a family paper. Then there's the stupid clown
that owns the place, just call me the main attraction.

If you read this and "The Illinois Condo Act" and still would like
to buy a condo, buy this one, STUPID.

NOTES: Poop Rolls Downhill, unfortunately is a true story that seems
to be far from over. The condo association is Butterfield Manor. The
management company is MC Property Management. My name is Jack
Flanagan The story is written that way to help me deal with the true
stupidity of it all.


 
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compleat makeover and forgot my court date  I wonder will I ever see my day
in court for the policeman that cause my pain. all for holding a sign in
Miami a Pro Clinton is why this happen the officer almost took my head off
I'm apying dearly for that.

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Date: Mar 22, 2006 11:41 AM
Subject: [long] Re: [AdHoc_IDC] Accident with Saa on Malawi airport
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Cc: akdube@..., disabilityparty@yahoogroups.com, redcorss2005@..., dismissed-as-disabled@yahoogroups.com, ChronicPainCooperate@yahoogroups.com, portal-pwpi@yahoogroups.com, invisible-NO-MORE@yahoogroups.com, cccun@yahoogroups.com, C-O-P-I-N-G_UN@yahoogroups.com, International-Forum-For-Respectful-Interfaces@yahoogroups.com, respectful_interfaces@..., "l.d.misek-falkoff falkoff" < ldmisekfalkoff@...>, Adin Falkoff <adfalkoff@...>

(Retaining longish message as rare occurrence for full background here, I am copying this to the Communications and Coordination Committee for the United Nations discussion online because so many communications and miscommunications issues are inherent.  Another topic for another day is the relation overall of transportation and communication(s) and the historical transitions which in pragmatic terms have taken place but not necessarily as should be accompanied by concerns for values, dignity, and respect).    Could be an 'Industrial Revolution fall-out' but surely always a requisite for truly 'sustainable including equitable development').
 
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Dear Lex and Andre and all involved with the International Disability Convention at the U.N., toward a Treaty::
 
So sorry you have to be the messengers here, but it is truly important that we know this.  There have been other transportation incidents and accidents that we have discussed here. And, pointedly - though at the end of the report - there is this statement:
 
"the transport problems faced by persons with disabilities, sick passengers, mothers with children and elderly persons. "
 
Here is such a kernel of Truth!  I have been in transportation crunches too, and would submit that during them there was the sense that the persons with disabilities are (wrongfully) being considered to be the problems.  The rights based approach here is reflected in the quote above - the problems faced by pwd and not problems caused by pwd.
 
When one observes the procedures put in place at airports, as some of us did (and were part of) during the transport to and from Tunis for the World Summit on the Information Society last November, there was much acting upon pwd rather than partnering with pwd.  In timing, location, etc..  I was in a wheelchair of child size as were others at one airport and its wheels appeared broken and they loaded us last and were running just about into furniture and columns.  In one airport they insisted we have luggage piled on (thrown onto) laps and legs.  Oh that hurt!  It was like they had preconceived notions, or indeed we became part of their performance plans. Being yelled at didn't help either.
 
The *Respectful Interfaces* Programme is looking at these disrespectful interfaces.  We need your reports, we very much are appalled and alarmed and want to be on the team reacting against these abuses. [Please write to join in or inquire].
 
And I know there are untold tales and many here bear them inside the soul.
 
Against these abuses we are working every day.
 
Convention Yes!  And Implementation and Monitoring.  And 'Eternal Vigilance'.
 
Warm regards, Linda M F.

 

On 3/22/06, lex.grandia <lex.grandia@... > wrote:
Dear friends,
 
Below a story, I got from Andre van Deventer from South Africa, just to show one more example of travel difficulties for pwd.
I wonder how they got home later.
 
Lex Grandia
 
 

PRESS STATEMENT

BY ANDREW KUDAKWASHE DUBE

MANAGING DIRECTOR: SAMAITA ASSOCIATES

RESOURCE ADVISOR & MEMBER: DISABLED PEOPLE SOUTH AFRICA (DPSA)

 Telephone/Fax: 0438511561

Email: akdube@...

Cellphone: 0832842232

 Thank you very much for showing interest in this press briefing.

 The subject of this briefing in an unfortunate incident that took place on tarmac of Lilongwe International Airport in Malawi.

 On 17 March 2006, a group of about sixteen persons with disabilities boarded South African Airways Flight from Lilongwe to Johannesburg. After having gone through all the boarding formalities, the disabled passengers were taken to the aircraft for boarding. Half way through the boarding process, and while some of us were in the Passenger Aid Unit vehicle, and on the tarmac, we were informed that the Captain had instructed that we be offloaded the plane for 'safety reason'.

 Half of our disabled passengers who were already in the plane were instructed to leave the plane without any explanation being given. They were told by the senior cabin crew member: 'we will talk outside'. This same senior cabin crew member, who was apparently carrying out the instructions of the Captain, was un-cooperative, visibly angry with us in full view of the other passengers.

 The disabled passengers were then all offloaded and/or man handled to get out of the plane. One disabled person from Botswana forcibly removed from his seat against his will and shunted down the stair case in from of stunned passengers and other crew members in the cabin. He was then grabbed and held in the hands of one member of the ground staff for more than five minutes while they retrieved his wheelchair from the hold. This humiliating episode was all done in full view of passengers and ground staff.

 Some of the disabled persons were then forced into a waiting bus, and those of us in the PAU were denied permission to talk to the Captain or to join our colleagues who gathered on the tarmac waiting to either board the flight or to obtain an explanation from the Captain.

 A lady who had a broken hip, and accompanied by her daughter for urgent medical treatment in South Africa was also offloaded against her will and in severe pain as they spirited her out of the aeroplane and down the staircase.

 Having been driven back to the main terminal building against our will, some members of our group then started moving back to the aeroplane accompanied by ground security in order to obtain an explanation from the Captain. We were stopped halfway towards the aircraft which, at that time still had its doors open.

 While we waited, we were also joined by our Guest, Mr Mark Harrison, from the Overseas Development Group (ODG), University of East Anglia in the UK. He refused to go back into plane if we were left behind. As we waited, we were shocked to watch the Captain or a member of his crew in the cockpit, open the windows of the cockpit and throwing down to a ground staff Mr Mark Harrision' hand language and taking off with our checked in language.

 We content that the Captain acted in a manner that was disrespectful in treated us the way we were treated on this flight. Options for our care and assistance on board were never explored. Our dignity was violated.

 We feel that we were discriminated against on the basis of our disability and the general attitude of the Captain and his purser was both negative and dehumanising.

 By carrying our unaccompanied luggage and leaving us on the tarmac, we feel the Captain and his purser severely compromised the very safety clauses that they purported to uphold.

The workshop in Malawi was about disseminating the results of research that found out there is a serious lack of implementation of policies that protect and safeguard the rights of persons with disabilities.

The South African version of this workshop will be implemented from 22-24 March 2006. In all we invited more than thirty governments and only two have confirmed their attendance up to now.

 With regard to this particular incident, we are in the process of exploring all legal options and phases of action at our disposal.

 In addition, we would like to call on SAA to implement a well targeted awareness raising work among all its personnel in order to ensure that persons with disabilities, sick passengers and elderly persons do not have their rights violated in the process of implementing safety regulations.

 Furthermore, we urge the Department of Transport and all invited government departments, to participate in the forthcoming workshop in order to obtain advice and support on how to integrate persons with disabilities in their work.

 This was only but one incident that is not different from similar incidents that take in the public transport sector in South Africa. We urge the Department to provide funding and facilitate the implementation of their own strategies for the transport sector including the Disabled Accessibility Transport Environment (DATE) Programme that was designed specifically to deal with and effectively address the transport problems faced by persons with disabilities, sick passengers, mothers with children and elderly persons.

 


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With best wishes, L. D. Misek-Falkoff, Ph.D., J.D.
For Identification:
National Disability Party
International Disability Caucus
Communications Coordination Committee for the U.N.  *Respectful Interfaces* [RESPITES]
and  *International Forum For Respectful Interfaces* [IFFRI] .

#2322 From: kath jacot <kathhome2001@...>
Date: Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:53 pm
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would like to join as well   kath

BARBCARR@... wrote:
Liz would like to join the groups listed above

Thanks Barb

Erica here is a friend for you my daughter
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#2321 From: BARBCARR@...
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Liz would like to join the groups listed above

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#2320 From: BARBCARR@...
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Thought this might be of interest to all
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#2319 From: BARBCARR@...
Date: Sun Mar 5, 2006 11:46 am
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Hello groups.
Sorry not to bee around but Iam stilll awaiting my date for surgery
I knew that there would come a time when alll of us would have to stand
up and be counted and know its come.
I need researchers to find out  ALL there is to know about a Dr Stanley
Grabias MD 2201 Ridgewood Dr Sute 200 Wyomisssing PA
This guy is an orthpod surgeon.He has played around with me  but when he
hurt my daughter that was enough
This group will be going after this guy..Medacl malpractice abounts and
other things.We need to stop this doctor now.I don't care about myself
but my daughter and I need your help
I need researchers' to find out all about this Dr before we go after him
If anyone wants to know the complete story you may contact me at
BARBCARR@... or by phone 610-582-1893
Please I am begging the entire groups to help.NOW is the time to bring
this bad doctor down
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#2318 From: bjcody@...
Date: Fri Mar 3, 2006 3:13 am
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#2317 From: "elvira52" <Elvira52@...>
Date: Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:56 am
Subject: Re: SOCIAL SECURITY
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 5:52 PM
Subject: SOCIAL SECURITY

 

SOCIAL SECURITY Right-click here to download pictures. To help protect your privacy, Outlook prevented automatic download of this picture from the Internet.

 

WHY WAIT UNRight-click here to download pictures. To help protect your privacy, Outlook prevented automatic download of this picture from the Internet.TIL 2008?  THERE IS AN ELECTION IN 2006.  I HEREWITH FIRMLY STATE THAT I WILL NOT VOTE FOR ANY POLITICIAN, REGARDLESS OF THE OTHER ISSUES, IF HE DOES NOT SPONSOR AND SUPPORT THE FOLLOWING LEGISLATION. THAT INCLUDES EVERYONE STANDING FOR ELECTION IN 2006.

 

LET US SHOW OUR LEADERS IN WASHINGTON "PEOPLE POWER" AND THE POWER OF THE INTERNET.  LET ME KNOW IF YOU ARE WITH ME ON THIS BY FORWARDING TO EVERYONE IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK.

 

IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU ARE REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT!

KEEP IT GOING!!!!

 

 

2008 Election Issue !!

 

GET A BILL STARTED TO PLACE ALL POLITICIANS ON SOC. SEC.

 

This must be an issue in "2008" Please! Keep it going.


----------------------------------

SOCIAL SECURITY:


(This is worth reading. It is short and to the point.)


Perhaps we are asking the wrong questions during election years

Our Senators and Congresspersons do not pay into Social Security and, of course, they do not collect from it.

 

You see, Social Security benefits were not suitable for persons of their rare elevation in society . They felt they should have a special plan for themselves. So, many years ago they voted in their " own" benefit plan.

In more recent years, no congress person has felt the need to change it. After all, it is a great plan.


For all practical purposes their plan works like this:!


When they retire, they continue to draw the same pay until they die.


Except it may
increase from time to time for cost of living adjustments..

For example, Senator Frist and Congressman DeLay and their wives may expect to draw $7,800,000.00 (that's Seven Million, Intruded Thousand Dollars), with their wives drawing $275, 000.00 during the last years of their lives.

 

This is calculated on an average life span for each of those two Dignitaries.



Younger Dignitaries
who retire at an early age, will receive much more during the rest of their lives.

Their cost for this excellent plan is
$0.00 NADA....ZILCH....

This little perk they voted for themselves is free to them.
You and I pick up the tab for this plan . The funds for this fine retirement plan come directly from the General Funds;

"
OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK"!

From our own Social Security Plan, which you and I pay (or have paid) into,
  -   every payday until we retire (which amount is matched by our employer)- we can expect to get an average of $1,000 per month after retirement.

Or, in other words, we would have to collect our average of $1,000 monthly benefits for 68 years and one (1) month to equal "Senator" Orrin Hatch's benefits!





Social Security could be very good if only one small change were made.


That change would be to:

Jerk the Golden Fleece Retirement Plan from under the Senators and Congressmen. Put them into the Social Security plan with the rest of us



then sit back.....



and
see how fast they would fix it!

If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of awareness will be planted and maybe good changes will evolve.




How many people
CAN you send this to?


Better yet.....

How many people WILL you send this to ?

 


#2316 From: bjcody@...
Date: Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:35 pm
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Everyday Fonar TV ads DTC 23 MILL People TRADERS also and their LOVED
ones and DRS also have SPINE PROBLEMS This was your only choice before
upright mri and their FAIL RATE Before the PUBLIC Now on the
fonarUPRIGHT Page NO CHOICE LEFT the UPRIGHT MRI of LAST RESORT or
CHRONIC PAIN 24/7 and no control of BM's  http://tinyurl.com/a9cz6

#2315 From: bjcody@...
Date: Fri Feb 24, 2006 4:58 pm
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#2314 From: "bjcody" <bjcody@...>
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#2313 From: bjcody@...
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Subject: METAL IMPLANTS pose NO HARM WITH UPRIGHT MRI
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MORE upright mri demand the INFERIIOR
COFFIN MRI sanners CAN NOT DO THIS ALSO
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/upright_mri/message/540

#2312 From: bjcody@...
Date: Fri Feb 17, 2006 3:26 am
Subject: MRI LAWYER WHY CYA
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Murphy LAW with coffin mri scans to everybody and their loved ones who
has a spine If you dont have a spine dont read this info
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/upright_mri

#2311 From: bjcody@...
Date: Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:00 pm
Subject: Projectile Cylinder Accidents Resulting from the Presence of Ferromagnetic Nitrous Oxide or Oxygen Tanks in the MR Suite -- Chaljub et al. 177 (1): 27 -- American Journal of Roentgenology
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more info Upright MRI Fringe Field Increases Patient Safety
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#2310 From: "elvira52" <Elvira52@...>
Date: Mon Feb 13, 2006 5:55 am
Subject: Fw: CAMILLE COSBY!!! VERY IMPORTANT
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CAMILLE COSBY!!! VERY IMPORTANT
 

 

 

Below you will find a speech that Bill Cosby's wife gave at a function. Everyone please read this and pass it on to as many African Americans you come in contact with.

Camille Cosby just made a reference about the Voting Rights Act in her most recent open letter on racism. This is extremely important.

We are
in the 21st Century and we were wondering, and when I say 'we', I mean others of us out there who wonder if everyone else out there knows what the significance of the year 2007 is to Black America?

Did you know that our right to VOTE will expire in the year
2007? Seriously! The Voters Rights Act signed in 1965
by Lyndon B. Johnson was just an ACT. It was not made a law.

In 1982, Ronald Reagan amended the Voters Rights Act for another 25 years. Which means that in the year 2007 we could lose the Right to vote!


Does anyone realize that African Americans are the only group of people who require PERMISSION under the United States Constitution to vote! In the year 2007, Congress will once again convene to decide whether or not Blacks should retain the rights
to vote (crazy but true).


In order for this to be passed, 38 states will have to approve an extension. This is ludicrous! Not only should the extension be
approved, but also the ACT must be made a law. Our right to vote should no longer be up for discussion, review and/or evaluation.


We must contact our Congress-persons, Senators, Alderpersons, etc., to put a stop to this! As bona fide Citizens of the United States, we cannot "drop the ball" on this one! We have come too far to let government make us take such a huge step backward. So please, let us push forward to continue to build the momentum towards gaining equality.

Please pass this onto others, as we are sure that many more individuals are not aware of this. I urge all of you that are able, to contact those in government that have your vote and make them aware of our combined concern for this issue.

One voice!...... One Vote! You cannot complain, if you do not participate.....local, State, & national.....


When I received this one I had no choice but to pass it on.
Please do the same.

 

 

Come Alive!

 

 


#2309 From: bjcody@...
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#2308 From: bjcody@...
Date: Fri Feb 10, 2006 5:38 am
Subject: Study shows radiology not safest place to be in hospital | BonitaNews.com
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#2307 From: bjcody@...
Date: Fri Feb 10, 2006 4:54 am
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#2306 From: BARBCARR@...
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I have fist mmy messafe I thing
Barb

#2305 From: bjcody@...
Date: Wed Feb 1, 2006 1:46 am
Subject: Mayo Clinic Proceedings HOW A A CONVENTIONAL MRI PARALYSED 2 PATIENTS
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1st DRS RULE WRITTEN IN "STONE "ABOVE ALL DO NO HARM" they could have
just used a SIT or STAND UPRIGHT MRI PLEASE SHARE INFO to prevent this
DR ABUSE otherwise we who walk upright will be taken advantage of by the
medical profession and  become  rolling wheelchair billboards
advertisement for the DR's screw ups and SO SORRY DOES NOT CUT THE
MUSTARD in the USA  some extra info http://tinyurl.com/9s5hu or
http://tinyurl.com/8zemf
http://www.mayoclinicproceedings.com/inside.asp?AID=22&UID=

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