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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 10:13 AM
Subject: [conventionondisability] Re: Including Human Rights of the Injured and Illin a Social Model of Disability.

Dear Wendi and all:
 
Just a short note of appreciation for the discussion and links provided.  I think in wondrous ways the Disability Treaty (both as product and process) is bringing out a lot of deep and broad social issues, and we are very fortunate the Working Group is very talented at issue-spotting and equally at presentation. 
 
From here, I'm more and more interested in how in many areas of life - - and I am speaking now of courts it happens, where due process is supposed to take place, and the "pro se"  or "pro per"  process of representing oneself in one's own voice  in particular - a social perception of others that certain classes or individuals lack capacity can start the ball rolling toward discrimination.  Can introduce more complicated interfaces and social perceptions of an underclass because of special treatment at every juncture.Yet meant assistance.
 
There are questions whether separate can ever be equal. 
 
Yet, mainstreaming can obscure need for as Kicki and others point out: habitation, not just rehabilitation.  And the whole concept and practice of "reasonable accommodation,"  which itself dubs people as different and in line for special handling for good and for "ill.".
 
But more anon, with focus on particulars of the Disability Convention present Draft. 
 
It's hard to think, though,  about life in general ,  without coming back to the hope these precious processes we are honored to be part of can bring both in sought and unexpected gains and progress for all people..
 
:) LDMF.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: [DisabilityConvention] Including Human Rights of the Injured and Illin a Social Model of Disability.

Linda,
I'll just comment on the first bit  of your thinking
In various works that have come from British disabled writers, they too have  wondered about the actual effects of impairment. In particular Paul Abberly has addressed this particularly well., Equally so (and from earlier on in the piece) have Liz Crowe and Jenny Morris. No doubt there are others who have contributed- this is just my immediate response. A sociology of impairment would seem to have good claims for development, and you have raised  a good issue for thought.
Best, Wendi

"Dr. Linda D. Misek-Falkoff" wrote:

Greetings: This is just a note to reference something I am thinking about a good deal and toward future disability related events and activities. I would be interested in conversation on this; I know others who have dialogued about physical dysfunction/impairment based disabilities, and seek a non-intrusive way in the context of not returning to "medical models" because many are not ill or not laid low by injuries and should not be thought of as sick or "needing to be fixed." The whole question of models in itself and whether one needs any is in itself compelling but may be a discussion for another occasion. But presently one wants to build on the wonderful progress of the Working Group and the general Ad Hoc events preceding and to come. Underneath these issues, whatever type of disability, is the need and deserving of respect whenever people or people and systems interface. There are tremendous attitudinal barriers that must be brought down, how people act toward each other and think of each other - and the understanding which is growing by all these good efforts must also include how people are "treated" in medical settings.  There is a great deal to note about this context which can be peremptorily quieted if not seen as a matter of human rights and dignity. Just a few thoughts, and will keep studying the matter in background. :) LDMF.  



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