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Hi Greg and everyone! ,
 
I hope you are all having a good weekend, I'm not doing well keeping up on all the notes, but I'm trying, I read them, and I'm learning from all that you write, thanks so much for sharing your experiences and being willing to share information here !
 
Another quick update, I see the neurosurgeon at UIC (CHicago) on Monday, I'm taking the cervical MRI's done last month with me.  I don't feel I have any intelligent questions to ask, I'm so nervous about the trip and just overwhelmed by the whole shock of this and how I will deal with any possible surgery and afteward.  Cart before the horse perhaps, but it is worrisome. 
 
My local neurologist tried to calm me and get it in perspective the other day, he likened it to flying with an expert pilot (I had to admit I'm terrified of flying, then moments later my boss informed me of the pilot who died mid flight)  :D
 
My local neuro assured me this upcoming visit is on the right track and is  much needed, my symptoms are increasing, one foot is dragging a bit, I seem to have to rely on intention at times in walking with one foot. There is more loss of balance. And as someone here (Greg perhaps?) described when the ground is uneven.. I do not compensate well.  While many of these symptoms can be attributed to myasthenia, not all can.  
 
Lately I can not turn to look behind me well as I drive, it sends an odd sensation through the back and neck.  This is something I've noticed for a while, but has grown worse.  Does this sound cervical spine related? Or am I just imagining things?  The burning is growing so intense in feet, and shoulder nearly all the time,  sometimes in arms and hands, and in legs much of the time. 
The neuro asked if it was in my fingers, and if so what fingers in particular.. wow I could not say that I'd pinned it down that specifically.  The last few days I think I've noticed it is more in my middle and ring finger, if that makes any sense at all.  I guess this helps them figure on the nerve that it is affected.
 
Another one of my doctors has prescribed me low doseTopamax (in the same family as Neurontin I think, it is an antiseizure drug) I've taken it  for a number of years for migraines and anxiety.  Very recently he increased dosage to help burning sensation.  I hope this will help, it is too early to tell. KS.  My side effects from topamax were not at all like with the neurontin, (only mentally fuzzy) perhaps taking them together, made the neurontin effects worse?  When I tried the neurontin (I tried it three times) I would have swelling in feet and legs, also weight gain but doctor assured me that would pass, but I really can't afford it.  The doctor was more worried about the swelling. The first time the doctor didn't prescribe the Neurontin slowly at all, it was awful, but even as I tried slowly the next times, as soon as I increase it the swelling seems to begin.   I know that I do have to build up medications very very slowly usually, I'm very sensitive to medications. Perhaps I can try it at another time when things are more stable and going very slow to build up. But also perhaps it just repeats the topamax effects? I'm not sure of the difference between them. 
 
Please wish me luck with the neurosurgeon on Monday.. if you have tips for questions I should ask as a newcomer to this kind of problem, let me know.. I have to leave 5am CST ..
 
Have a great weekend.  Sorry my notes are so long and detailed.
 
Thanks for listening.
 
KD
 
 
Subject: RE: [Cervical_Spondylosis] New to the group but not to the disease
 

Hi KD,

 

I am sorry you seem to be getting the run around on diagnosing your ailments and getting help for them.  You raised many points.  Neurontin helps me for ALL the same symptoms you described.  It helps to calm the burning, tingling, numbness and stumbling.  Without it I could not walk.  At first (for about 2 weeks) my body felt drunk, but I adjusted to it.  It is the only thing I’ve ever found that helps.  Other medicines can help stop tremors but you have neuropathy.

 

I too have problems up and down my spine, including a herniated disk and an annular tear in my sacrum but it is the cervical area that contains ALL nerves for our legs, arms, organs, heart, lungs etc.  If you or I are in terrible pain in our lumbar area, the surgery requires cutting through a lot of bone and the nerves affected are only ones that branch out at that level, i.e. to the waist and legs.  But the cervical area contains ALL nerves.  The nerves branch out of the spinal cord as they go down the spine close to whatever they control.  The cervical receives so much attention, in spite of lower back pain, because the nerves to your organs, limbs and all working parts below the face can be severely damaged if you have stenosis in the cervical area.  Your heart could stop your arm, legs, bladder, bowels, etc.  One can die if the cervical area is not treated in one fashion or another.  You can only be in severe pain, a sore ass from sitting (riding in a car or on a horse!?!?!) or have difficulty walking…but not die, cause permanent organ damage or any of the previous from a cervical issue.

 

I am sorry about the MG issue.  Sometimes I fear they will come to me and tell me I now have MS.  I do not mean to make a joke of that as MS is certainly no joke.  I’ve read so many people in this group say that doctors chased down one avenue or another when all along we said it was our neck or our back.  We seem to know our bodies best.

 

I knew a dear sweet friend who suffered great pain.  She got so bad she could not hold a job.  They eventually diagnosed it as Fibromyalgia.  She got shots in ALL the trigger points but she never got better.  Neurontin was the only thing that really seemed to help much.  Three to four years later an MRI taken at the height of her pain showed a herniated C3 disk.  The whole time it was a disk issue.  It was just that the disk tended to move and previous MRIs did not capture it at the “proper” time.  She had an ACDF of C3 and today she is off disability and leading an active life again.  I am not trying to suggest that Fibro does not exist but sometimes it may be disk related.  My aunt was misdiagnosed with Fibro when she also had a disk issue.  My aunt has the exact same symptoms you described and was just given Neurontin.  I do not know of a drug that does the same thing.  It also helps prevent my seizures, so for me it serves two purposes.  I could not walk or deal with the neuropathy I have without it though.  It is a lifesaver for me.  I wish you could get it to work for you.  I assume you slowly took a little at a time over several days to weeks until reaching your final dose to let your brain adjust to it.

 

Do not have a surgery unless it is necessary.  But do not do nothing either, allowing it to get worse and worse and cause permanent damage.  Surgery (and especially fusion) sucks, you will not be able to drive for a few months after the surgery.  Even if you think you can…if you get into an accident wearing a collar, you will lose as any attorney will state you were negligent and could not see as you could not have full range of motion with the collar.  No disrespect, but you would be stupid to drive without a collar (given the choice) as it is your ONLY protection.  But if a surgery is required…find the best.

 

I mentioned the above because you said your biggest fear was having surgery make you worse…it can.  Thus find the BEST…IF…you need one.  If you have fusion, studies have shown that fused disks place pressure on the disk above and below the fused disk(s)…thus causing possible harm to them as you worry.  But permanent organ damage or death due to putting off a badly needed surgery is not the solution in comparison.  Explore all SAFE options first.

 

I hope some of this helped.  KD, regarding pain medicine, sadly many doctors are afraid to prescribe narcotics for fear of their licenses.  Let them go through this kind of pain and just apply het or cold.  Hmmm.  My oncologist has people on pain meds until they die (but so do some neurologists) so he had no problem seeing my obvious pain and related high blood pressure and offering to manage my pain.  I am blessed with a few really good doctors.

 

I wish you and everyone else good health and happiness.

 

Best regards,

Greg

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