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Re: Double jointed clients

Thanks Bryan.

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--- In Certified-Personal-Trainer@yahoogroups.com, Bryn Roebuck
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> Hello, I have delt with double jointed athletes in the course of
my career as a Competitive Gymnastics Coach, but not during the
course of Personal Training. One of my young pre- elite gymnasts
from many years ago, ( whom I still know well), had an
extraordinarily hyper- flexible lumbar spine.Astetically and from a
judges point of view, this presented a number of difficulties.
Gymnasts are required to be extremely flexible. However, in this
case- during the execution of a back handspring for example, the
arch in the lower back was toooo pronounced producing the apperance
of the back of the head touching the buttocks. This gymnast was
blessed with incredible talent, but could never seem to overcome
this problem dispite supplemental strength training targeting the
entire back including the lumbar spine, with strict attention to
R.O.M. As she aged, she experienced ever increasing pain issues with
her lower back. Monitoring STRICT R.O.M. is the order of the day,
whether the person seems
> to experience any pain/ discomfort at the time, ( which she did
not...) or not. Bowing out joints beyond an extreme degree that even
a flexiblity specilized athelete would display leads to damage
eventually in my observation. I would not worry about your client
losing her flexability, that's prob. nearly impossible. Keeping the
weight light is a good notion. Also, utilizing visualization by
using repeatitive verbal cues can help as well, such as, "
straighten your arms more," holding the elbow joint to provide
support and decrease the bend till your client developes a
familiarity with this arm posture can also be helpful, use " E," all
of the above. Also, sticking with cable machines more, rather than
free- weight increases the element of control, and lessens errors
with posture and R.O.M. Also, you may elect to drop the weight for
trhe joint(s) in question even lower yet... Saftey First. Hope this
info is a help to you! Good luck.
> Bryn
>
> mlee_personaltrainer <mlee_personaltrainer@y...> wrote:
> Does anyone have experience training double jointed clients? I
have
> had several slightly DJ'ed (hypermobile) people and I've been able
to
> modify the exercises so that they remain balanced on both sides
(When
> there is an inch or less difference in ROM).
>
> I now have a client who is almost completely DJ'ed. Her left side
esp
> is more flexible-- in addition to which she is very tall and
willowy.
> When doing Lateral Shoulder Raises for ex. her elbow will bend
> backards so that at the top of the movement her upper arm is
parrallel
> to the floor/ceiling while the lower arm is bent 15+ degrees
toward
> the floor.
> she experiences no pain and has never had a dislocated joint. She
> never locks out a joint, and we keep her weights relatively low.
>
> My intial thoughts after a bit of research is that I should let
her
> work the movements out almost to her full ROM ( enough so that
both
> sides are equal) as long as the weight is still being moved by the
> targeted muscle joint combo-- However I wonder how much this will
> cause her to lose flexibily because of shortened muscles on one
side.
>
>
> Our approach so far has been that there is no "deficiency" to be
> corrected. She's healthy, fit and enjoys her workouts. WE just try
to
> keep her in a safe and equidistant ROM.
>
> What would you guys do?
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Does anyone have experience training double jointed clients? I have had several slightly DJ'ed (hypermobile) people and I've been able to modify the exercises...
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Hello, I have delt with double jointed athletes in the course of my career as a Competitive Gymnastics Coach, but not during the course of Personal Training....
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Thanks Bryan. M ... my career as a Competitive Gymnastics Coach, but not during the course of Personal Training. One of my young pre- elite gymnasts from many...
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... Trainer@yahoogroups.com, "mlee_personaltrainer" ... You are most welcome. i hope this helped you. i am dealing with alot of gymnasts again ,in additon to...
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Thanks Bryan. M ... my career as a Competitive Gymnastics Coach, but not during the course of Personal Training. One of my young pre- elite gymnasts from many...
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