Email not displaying correctly? View it in your browser. Leeds Mental Health Needs Assessment - Questionnaire Survey York Health Economics Consortium (YHEC), which is part of the University of York, specialises in providing research and consultancy to the healthcare sector.  YHEC has been commissioned by NHS Leeds to work with them to undertake a Mental Health Needs Assessment (MHNA) for adults that will systematically review the mental health and emotional wellbeing needs of the population of Leeds.  This work will lead to recommendations to inform future prevention initiatives and service development.   Part of the MNHA involves seeking the views of service users and their carers, service managers and providers (from the NHS, from Social Services, and from voluntary organisations in Leeds), and from those responsible for commissioning these services.  We are doing this through professional stakeholder events, user and carer focus groups, one-to-one telephone interviews and a questionnaire survey.  Further information about the project can be found by clicking here and a copy of the questionnaire by clicking here.   Your views are important to us and we would be very grateful if you could complete the attached survey by 5pm on Friday 4 December 2009 and return it by e-mail to YHEC (ch42@...).    If you would prefer to complete the questionnaire on-line please go to http://www.yhec.co.uk/?q=content/leeds-mental-health-needs-assessment   If you have any queries about the needs assessment, about completing the questionnaire, or would like to receive a paper copy of the questionnaire, please do not hesitate to contact me either by email (ch42@...) or by telephone (01904 433620).   If you would like to talk to someone at NHS Leeds about this needs assessment, please contact Lizzie Allen via e-mail (Lizzie.Allen@...).   Many thanks in advance for your help   Kind Regards   Caroline Hunt Administrator   Hours of work: Monday to Friday 09:30 to 15:30.  If your email is urgent outside of these hours, please forward to yhec@...   York Health Economics Consortium Ltd 2nd Floor, Market Square University of York Vanbrugh Way Heslington YORK   YO10 5NH   Tel:      01904 433620 Fax:     01904 433628 Email:  ch42@...   Webs:  www.yhec.co.uk You are receiving this email because you signed up to be a member of NSUN at www.nsun.org.uk Unsubscribe aimhighpeak@... from this list | Forward to a friend | Update your profile Our mailing address is: NSUN 27-29 Vauxhall Grove London, Greater London SW8 1SY Add us to your address book Copyright (C) 2009 NSUN All rights reserved.

Can't read this email?    Update November 2009 www.scottishrecovery.net      > Please forward this e-mail to anyone you think may be interested in SRN Forward this email November update from SRN In this update you will find information about: Independent evaluation of peer support Upcoming SRN events Scotland's fourth public survey on attitudes to mental health A new personal story about recovery from eating disorders Report backs development of peer support worker role An independent evaluation of peer support worker pilot schemes in five Health Board areas has recommended further roll out of the role at the same time as making recommendations for future implementation. The research report was commissioned by the Scottish Government and carried out by the Scottish Development Centre for Mental Health in partnership with the Universities of Edinburgh and Stirling. For more information or to read the report, visit our website. Making Recovery Real - Oban SRN is delighted to announce that we are now accepting bookings for the second Making Recovery Real Roadshow event. This event will take place on 24 February 2010 at the Caledonia Hotel in Oban. This event is open to anyone with an interest in mental health, recovery and wellbeing. A future event will also be held in Stranraer (24 March 2010). For more information or to book a place, visit our website. National survey shows professionals’ messages of recovery are hitting the mark The fourth national survey of the Scottish public’s attitudes indicates that 75% of people who have experienced a mental health problem are receiving a positive recovery message from professionals. Well? What do you think? 2008 provides a detailed picture of public attitudes, including peoples’ perceptions of their own health, and their attitudes towards, and experience of, mental health issues.   For more information and to link to the report, visit our website. SRN welcomes new staff We are pleased to welcome two new staff members to the SRN team, Alex Lambert and Ken Robertson. Alex recently took up the post of Information Officer and is working to improve SRN’s communication and information sharing strategies. Ken recently joined the SRN team as a full time Administrative Officer and is working to support the general running of the network, as well as SRN’s events and projects. OTHER NEWS Last chance to book for Making Recovery Real event in Thurso There are still places available at our Thurso Making Recovery Real Roadshow event on 01 December... New story focuses on recovery from eating disorders Zoë Charlotte Mason recently shared her story with SRN, which is now available on our website. In her story, Zoë talks about her recovery journey from Anorexia and Bulimia. As part of her recovery, Zoë has started a Facebook page to highlight issues relating to eating disorders...   Comments welcome on new personality disorder resource The Consultation and Advocacy Promotion Service (CAPS) in Edinburgh has just completed a six month project where they spoke to people with experience of personality disorder... New collection of recovery stories A new collection of thoughts on recovery has been published by Recovery Devon... If you have any problem reading this email or accessing the links  then please contact us. If you are using Outlook and you are unable to see images in the email you may need to enable images. See help file 'Unblock image downloads' Scottish Recovery Network W: www.scottishrecovery.net E:  info@... T:  0141 240 7790 Unsubscribe Forward to a friend If this message was fowarded to you click here to get future updates mailed directly to you. SRN advertise a range of events and resources developed by external organisations. In doing so we do not necessarily endorse or recommend them and we are in no way responsible for content or quality. Click here to read more about our information sharing policy.

Last chance to send in an Abstract for

BSA Sociology of Mental Health Study Day! (see below)

 

Please send any remaining Abstracts by the end of this week to

Patsy.Staddon@...

 

                   CALL FOR ABSTRACTS

 

The BSA Sociology of Mental Health Study Group

 

is holding a Study Day on Saturday February 6^th   2010

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                          ALCOHOL AND MENTAL HEALTH

 

The object of this study day is to provide a forum for both academic and service user/survivor perspectives on the role of alcohol in our society, and its particular relevance for marginalized groups such as women and mental health service users.

 

The day will begin with short (30 minutes including questions) papers,

followed by discussions based on themes to be chosen on the  study day by participants. The cost will be £10 for BSA members and £20 each for non-BSA members, and will include lunch and refreshments. (There will be a limited number of free places for low and unwaged.)

 

The event will take place in London at the BSA building at Imperial Wharf (nearest underground Fulham Broadway) on Saturday February 6th, from

10 a.m. to 5 p.m.

 

Abstracts are requested for papers which discuss the sociological connections between the use of alcohol, not only to deal with depression and other mental health conditions, stigma and different forms of  abuse, but also to enhance life-styles, sometimes in ways which may not conform to behavioural expectations for particular groups, such as women. To what extent may ‘treatment’ be designed to effect social control rather than to help with making sense of the alcohol use experience? Contributions from mental health and substance use survivors, especially with a gendered perspective, are particularly welcome.

 

Abstracts should be no longer than 200 words in length, have a sociological perspective, and be submitted by November 16^th  2009 to:

 

Patsy.staddon@...

 

 

 

 

 

 

Patsy Staddon, PhD

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Can't see this e-mail? Click here to view it in your browser   Dear Rob, Here in Conservative HQ we are literally counting down the days before the British people can have their say in a General Election. We have a big clock on the wall counting down until the last possible moment it can be called (click here to add one to your website or Facebook page). Our big clock on the wall dipped below 200 days over the weekend. As I explain in the latest War Room Briefing video, the mountain we have to climb at this election means that every day of campaigning counts. Just think about this: we need to win 117 seats just to get a wafer thin majority, and we haven't won that many in one election since 1931. I know at this time of year there's another countdown that everyone's keeping an eye on: the Christmas countdown. I hate to say it, but there are just 38 days left until Christmas. If, like me, you need to make a start on your Christmas shopping, then you might be interested in our new online Party Shop. As well as Conservative-branded Christmas cards, you'll also find a great range of stocking fillers. We've got posters, 2010 diaries, T-shirts, mugs, ties and - of course - our bestselling babygrows. So why not take (some of) the stress out of Christmas by going to the Party Shop now. Yours, Comment on Eric's message on The Blue Blog Send this message on to your friends, family and workmates   Blocked by your spam filter? Add bulletin@... to your address book Want to unsubscribe? Send a blank e-mail to this address Promoted by Alan Mabbutt on behalf of the Conservative Party, both at 30 Millbank, London, SW1P 4DP

Dear Colleague,   Welcome to the November ebulletin from Sainsbury Centre for Mental Health (http://www.scmh.org.uk).  Oops, I appear to have forgotten to send you an October ebulletin. Hope nobody minds. Everything since the last ebulletin is included here anyway.   In this ebulletin: ABOUT US New Joint Chief Executives begin work at Sainsbury Centre for Mental Health   EMPLOYMENT Sainsbury Centre launches Centres of Excellence in employment NHS should take a lead in implementing NICE guidance on mental wellbeing at work, says Sainsbury Centre   CRIMINAL JUSTICE All-Stages Diversion: an interactive model   ACROSS MENTAL HEALTH Watch Gene Johnson's lecture on recovery Sainsbury Centre welcomes report on recession and mental health Plus EVENTS   Please add this address to your contacts or safe senders list so the ebulletin won't get stopped by your spam filter or IT department.     ABOUT US   New Joint Chief Executives begin work at Sainsbury Centre for Mental Health   Sean Duggan and Bob Grove are our new joint chief executives following the retirement of Angela Greatley. Andy Bell is the deputy chief executive.   As joint chief executives, they will lead our endeavours to sustain the work into the future, beyond the time of annual core funding from the Gatsby Charitable Foundation. Sean Duggan and Bob Grove - our new joint chief executives     EMPLOYMENT Sainsbury Centre launches Centres of Excellence in employment   The nine new Centres of Excellence in supporting people who use mental health services into employment will act as exemplars of how Individual Placement and Support (IPS) can be implemented in localities across England.   Services in Central and North West London, Essex, Shropshire, Somerset and South West London have committed to being full partners in the programme. Alongside these trailblazing sites, another four 'emerging centres' have been invited into the programme from Sussex, Leeds, Devon and Nottingham.   In each site, the local mental health trust will work with partners in employment services, local authorities and other agencies to offer people effective support to get into paid work. The learning from these sites will be shared with other areas of England.     NHS should take a lead in implementing NICE guidance on mental wellbeing at work, says Sainsbury Centre   The NHS should be leading by example in the way it manages mental ill health at work. Today's guidance on Promoting mental wellbeing through productive and healthy working conditions once again shows what needs to be done. The new guidance should be taken up as a priority by the NHS, Sainsbury Centre for Mental Health joint chief executive Dr Bob Grove said today. He continued: "The evidence is clear. Mental distress happens in every workplace in the country. One in six of us will experience a mental health problem each year. The cost to employers is at least 1,000 pounds a year for every person they employ. For the NHS, that adds up to a staggering 1.3 billion pounds, or a quarter of the entire NHS mental health care budget."     CRIMINAL JUSTICE All-Stages Diversion: an interactive model   Using evidence and learning from our work on diversion we have produced the All-Stages Diversion model. It shows the criminal justice pathway and highlights who should be involved, how diversion is achieved and what the outcomes are for each step on the pathway.   We have developed an interactive model which looks at how adults can be diverted at any stage in the system.      ACROSS MENTAL HEALTH   Watch Gene Johnson's lecture on recovery   Watch videos and get the transcript of the lecture by Gene Johnson about the US perspective of recovery. The slides that accompanied his lecture are there too. The lecture was held in September and complements the work we're doing on recovery.   Sainsbury Centre welcomes report on recession and mental health   The current recession should lead to more, not less, investment in effective support for people with mental health problems to gain and retain paid employment, Sainsbury Centre joint chief executive Dr Bob Grove said today.   Welcoming a report from the Royal College of Psychiatrists, the Mental Health Network of the NHS Confederation and the LSE, Bob Grove said: "Today's report calls on public services to offer better support for people with mental health problems in tougher economic times. We strongly support that call. The expected spending squeeze in public services should not stand in the way of doing what works. If anything, it should focus minds on investing in interventions that make people's lives better at less cost."     EVENTS   Psychological Therapies in the NHS Thursday 26th and Friday 27th November 2009, Savoy Place, London The third annual conference examining the challenges and opportunities of evidence based practice for the Psychotherapy professions. This two day event brings together leading clinicians, policy makers, academics and service users from across the UK, Europe and the US, to consider and debate the future of Psychological Therapies within the NHS. Bob Grove, Director of our Employment Programme is speaking at this event. For more information, please call Hanisha on 020 8541 1399, email hanisha@... or visit http://www.healthcare-events.co.uk or download the brochure. Workshop and conference on long-term intervention for sex offenders 9 February 2010 / 10 February 2010 The Charlie Waller Institute of Evidence-Based Psychological Treatment is running a workshop and a conference on a new, long-term intervention for sex offenders. Professor Mark Olver from the University of Saskatchewan, Canada, will be leading the workshop. The workshop will teach delegates to implement an evidence-based, high intensity inpatient sex offender treatment programme designed for moderate to high-risk sex offenders. The conference will provide a research and clinical update on the understanding and treatment of offenders. Sean Duggan, Director of our Criminal Justice Programme, will be speaking at the conference. For further information please contact cwi@..., telephone 0118 378 6668 or book via their website at www.reading.ac.uk/charliewaller.      The next e-bulletin will be in December.   Best wishes,   Katherine Hall     You can also follow us on Twitter. We tweet about news, publications and policy watch. http://twitter.com/SainsburyCentre     SUBSCRIBING   To sign up for this e-bulletin, go to http://www.scmh.org.uk/. To unsubscribe, email me back. To change your email address, unsubscribe with your old one and sign up again on the website with the new one. Katherine Hall Website Editor and Designer Tel: 020 7827 8376 Fax: 020 7827 8369 Email: katherine.hall@... Website: www.scmh.org.uk The Sainsbury Centre for Mental Health 134 - 138 Borough High Street London SE1 1LB Charity no. 1091156 The information in this Internet e-mail is confidential. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying or distribution is prohibited and may be unlawful. Internet communications are not secure and therefore The Sainsbury Centre for Mental Health does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of The Sainsbury Centre for Mental Health unless otherwise specifically stated.

The BSA are funding a limited number of free places to attend the BSA & C-SAP Early Careers Event on 11th – 12th December 2009. For further information please visit http://www.c-sap.bham.ac.uk/events/new_event.htm?id=220 or contact Frances Worrall [f.l.worrall@...].

 

Early Career and Refreshers Event for sociology teaching staff

Organised by C-SAP and the BSA

Venue: Manchester Business School, University of Manchester

Date of event: 11 - 12 December 2009

 

This two day residential and continuing professional development event provides an opportunity for newly-appointed and existing teaching staff in sociology to share and evaluate a range of approaches, methods and resources for learning and teaching in the disciplines.

 

The 2-day event will begin at 10.30 on Friday 11th December and end at 4.30 on Saturday 12th December. The programme will be flexible to take account of the varied interests and experiences of those attending, covering issues including:
- Building academic networks;
- Small group teaching;
- What is 'good teaching'?
- Preparing for the PhD viva
- curriculum design and assessment
- Research teaching link

Attendance at this event may be useful if you are undertaking a PG Cert HE qualification or are looking to expand and develop your teaching skills. This is also an opportunity to meet and network with other sociology and social policy staff.

Participants should bring examples of their module or course outline and assessment strategies to use in the discussion sessions.

Costs: £80 for attendance 11 & 12 December including accommodation and dinner.

 

Further information available from: http://www.c-sap.bham.ac.uk/events/new_event.htm?id=220

 

Shaping Our Lives Winter Newsletter 2009

Dear Rob,
,
The latest Shaping Our Lives Winter Newsletter (Issue 16) has just been published, if we have your postal address you will have already recieved a copy. Here is a link to the electronic version. To download it in PDF format click here and in Word Text only format click here. We hope you find it an interesting read.

You will see in the newsletter that we are asking for your help and feedback. We need to be able to tell the Department of Health what you think they should be concentrating on.

Shaping Our Lives is working in partnership with the National Centre for Independent Living (NCIL) and RADAR, as one of 11 groups chosen by the Department of Health to take part in the ‘Third Sector Strategic Partner Programme’.
Our role in this work is to improve and strengthen two-way communication between service users and our organisations and the Department of Health. From previous work we have carried out and from listening to and meeting with many service users we have identified two areas which seem to us to concern service users above other issues.
We want to check these priority areas out with you.


1 Feeding from service users to the Department
The Department of Health has said that they want to see a national network of user-controlled/user-led organisations in every local authority area.

Questions
 Do you and/or your organisation feel this is making progress?
 If not what are the problems and the barriers to making this a reality?
 What should we be doing as service users and service user organisations to highlight the barriers and challenge them?
 What message do we want to get to the Department of Health from our localities about this?

2 Feeding from the Department of Health to service users and our organisations
The government has committed itself to transforming social care to enable person-centred support (personalisation offering choice and control) and self-directed support (methods like direct payments and individual budgets, giving people choice and control over their support through having control of funds).

Questions
 Are present financial arrangements making this possible? Do you and/or your organisation feel you have enough resources to ensure equal access to funding to provide the support to make possible independent living?
 Are there barriers?
 If so, how can these be overcome in addressing social care funding for the future?


Please get in touch, it is really important we get your views! You can email us, phone us or write to us at the address below.

Please note you cannot reply directly to this email, please respond to jenny@...



Thank you all very much.


Jenny Willis

Office Manager

Shaping Our Lives National User Network

BM Box 4845

London WC1N 3XX


Tel: 0845 241 0383

Main website: www.shapingourlives.org.uk

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© 2009 S.O.L.I.S

It's very much the same when it comes to ethnicity questions, there is usually White British/White Irish/White Other .............. which I find to be discriminatory, as there should be White Scottish/White Welsh. In fact, I have come across only one County Council that has White Scottish on their forms and it happens to be the one I live in

92% of Britons believing that admitting mental illness harms career prospects is about right, but then I could ask some questions about how this figure came about ? As we all know, there are Surveys that can highlight what they want to highlight to dramatic effect, remember the advert about dog food and pedigree chum..... most dogs preferred pedigree chum....I never saw a dog that could do a tick-box survey (let alone talk) yet. So how can these Surveys be taken seriously ? 

From: Pam Pinder <pamshouse@...>
Subject: Re: [Carersforumuk] Re: 92% of Britons believe admitting mental illness harms career
To: Carersforumuk@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 22:13

 



The only way to fight stigma is by standing up to the stigmatisers. There is no point in having a DDA if people do not use it. If more people felt able to stand up and be open and strong enough to challenge this would have an impact on anti stigma.

 

Somebody who recently moved into the street where I live has Bi Polar. The first time I spoke to him he told me about his condition and has done so to everyone else he has spoken to. There is no reason why he had to do this that I can think of nor any reason why he shouldn't, he is a nice enough person and people can see that. Doing something like this helps to fight stigma and put things into perspective. I agree with you having a disability does not mean you are not capable of doing a job as good as the next person which is the reason why you should not feel you have to hide it.

 

Being open might even get you the job. There is often a question on most application like - do you have a disability, if you say no and you have then it doesn't leave much room for claiming discrimination against you if they don't know in the first place. Any employer would need to know something about you before they employ you, some will not employ before doing a CRB check for example.

 

Pam

 

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: aim highpeak

To: Carersforumuk@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:20 PM

Subject: Re: [Carersforumuk] Re: 92% of Britons believe admitting mental illness harms career

 

Yeah but what about employers and the DDA ?   Just because a person has a disability doesn't mean they can't do the same job (sometimes better) than an able-bodied person.   Mental health conditions should not stop anyone from doing any type of work, as long as the condition is taken into proper consideration by the employer AND the rest of the workforce.   The recent headline about the German referee, spoke volumes about the stigma he felt that he needed to 'hide' from everyone in his professional life and also, his private life, as he was sure his depression would be held against him in adopting a child.   . --- On Wed, 11/11/09, Pam Pinder <pamshouse@blueyonde r.co.uk> wrote: From: Pam Pinder <pamshouse@blueyonde r.co.uk> Subject: Re: [Carersforumuk] Re: 92% of Britons believe admitting mental illness harms career To: Carersforumuk@ yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 20:56    Neither have I Rob, we were talking about disclosing a medical condition on application of the job. If the employer requested further information of the condition you disclosed. Because outside of disability discrimination under employment law you would need to be fit to do the job you are employed to do. You would be entering into a contract when applying for a job, just like you are when purchasing goods from a shop. If the product couldn't do what it said it would you have the right to take it back. Then again up until you have been employed for 12 months you do not have full employment rights anyway.   If the employer asked for medical information from your records and you agreed they would not have access to all of your records only the information relevant to the condition disclosed,  you do not have to give permission for the prospective employer to have this information  But if there was more than one person applying for the post, how could you prove you did not get the job because of refusal or disability.   Once employed if the employee had a lot of sick time off, employers can request medical information relevant to the condition that is causing sickness. You have the right to refuse but this could lead to you losing your job. The other way around getting the information is by sending you to the firms Dr who is usually a community GP who would have access to medical information from consultants just as your own GP has. Also not forgetting your GP usually has to sign you off sick and declare you fit for work. They might sign some off the sick declaring they could do light duties, if the job involved heavy duties then it would not be suitable for your health condition.  So as with shop bought goods need to be fit for purpose, it's the same in employment and health and safety reasons. Unless of course employment law has changed since I was a rep. Then of course, if you had nothing to hide there would be no reason to refuse.   Pam     ----- Original Message ----- From: aim highpeak To: Carersforumuk@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 6:47 AM Subject: Re: [Carersforumuk] Re: 92% of Britons believe admitting mental illness harms career   I have never heard of any employer asking for Medical Records before offering employment to anyone, it's my experience that employers have all the relevant information on their application forms, which the potential employee signs and is 'hired' on the basis that everything checks out whilst the new employee is on "trial".   Employers don't always request Medical Records as it cost's £oney to access information, on top of the HR time involved.   And I would suggest that not all medical information is forthcoming to employers, certain health conditions are outwith what they have a "right" to know.   Though to bypass all of this, employers just send potential employees for a full medical examination before any position is offered on a permanent basis.   Probably why there are so many self-employed people (?) .... as they can't 'sack' themselves from having a health condition.   --- On Wed, 11/11/09, mac pic <macpic91@googlemail .com> wrote: From: mac pic <macpic91@googlemail .com> Subject: Re: [Carersforumuk] Re: 92% of Britons believe admitting mental illness harms career To: Carersforumuk@ yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 5:26   Is that not discrimination? 2009/11/10 Pam Pinder <pamshouse@blueyonde r.co.uk>   A right No, but if they request the information and you refuse access,  you risk losing your job. For example if you are off sick from work under going medical treatment, the employer can ask for access to you medical records but need your permission to do so. As an employee you have the right to view what information is shared before being sent to the employer. They would not have a right to request access to all of you medical records only what is relevant to what ever is causing your sickness absence.   When I applied for the job I am in at present, I was still taking anti depressants which I disclosed on the questionnaire. Before I was accepted for the post the employer asked for my permission to contact my GP to ensure I was fit to do the job I am employed to do. They had no right to this information I could have refused, but if I refused I would not have got the job.    Pam     ----- Original Message ----- From: mac pic To: Carersforumuk@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 8:34 PM Subject: Re: [Carersforumuk] Re: 92% of Britons believe admitting mental illness harms career   Do employers have a right to see your medical records?  Probably not. But I accept your point about journalists, they think its OK to spell out peoples problems in print, more should take them to court. ian 2009/11/9 sasone2one <pamshouse@blueyonde r.co.uk>   Believe it or not Alex, family members/carers also have to deal with this stigma...I could tell you a few stories myself! It might be the best option for the person labelled not to reveal past problems, but if they do not disclose in a job application they risk losing their job anyway. I also find this ironic when family members can be refused this information with the excuse of confidentiality but strangers such as employers have the right to be informed? Not only this if someone with a MH diagnosis committs a crime their diagnosis is usually reveal in size 50 print on the front page headlines in a newspaper for the world to see, where confidentiality goes straight out of the window! Pam --- In Carersforumuk@ yahoogroups. com, Alex Jenson <alexjenson04@ ...> wrote: > > > Until the mass market tabloids grow up and stop witch-hunting every time a schizophrenic person is involved in a crime --Newsflash- - people without mental health problems also do bad things -- until this culture of infantile mass media defining the parameters of every debate, changes, then nothing will change. But then the Sun is written for grown up children. > If you've had a problem in the past, keep it to yourself, bury it, if it's no longer relevant, it's no longer relevant, and it's nobody else's business. Best way really. > I once did a Masters degree and one day the supposedly enlightened head of the course (who knew about my past difficulties) said to me that 'he didn't want to see anybody get harmed'....a sad and shocking comment. People, whether they are educated or not, will always have these savage prejudices. > No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.704 / Virus Database: 270.14.59/2494 - Release Date: 11/10/09 07:38:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.704 / Virus Database: 270.14.59/2494 - Release Date: 11/10/09 07:38:00

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From: Pam Pinder <pamshouse@...>
Subject: Re: [Carersforumuk] Re: 92% of Britons believe admitting mental illness harms career
To: Carersforumuk@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 20:56

 



Neither have I Rob, we were talking about disclosing a medical condition on application of the job. If the employer requested further information of the condition you disclosed. Because outside of disability discrimination under employment law you would need to be fit to do the job you are employed to do. You would be entering into a contract when applying for a job, just like you are when purchasing goods from a shop. If the product couldn't do what it said it would you have the right to take it back. Then again up until you have been employed for 12 months you do not have full employment rights anyway.

 

If the employer asked for medical information from your records and you agreed they would not have access to all of your records only the information relevant to the condition disclosed,  you do not have to give permission for the prospective employer to have this information  But if there was more than one person applying for the post, how could you prove you did not get the job because of refusal or disability.

 

Once employed if the employee had a lot of sick time off, employers can request medical information relevant to the condition that is causing sickness. You have the right to refuse but this could lead to you losing your job. The other way around getting the information is by sending you to the firms Dr who is usually a community GP who would have access to medical information from consultants just as your own GP has. Also not forgetting your GP usually has to sign you off sick and declare you fit for work. They might sign some off the sick declaring they could do light duties, if the job involved heavy duties then it would not be suitable for your health condition.  So as with shop bought goods need to be fit for purpose, it's the same in employment and health and safety reasons. Unless of course employment law has changed since I was a rep. Then of course, if you had nothing to hide there would be no reason to refuse.

 

Pam

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: aim highpeak

To: Carersforumuk@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 6:47 AM

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I have never heard of any employer asking for Medical Records before offering employment to anyone, it's my experience that employers have all the relevant information on their application forms, which the potential employee signs and is 'hired' on the basis that everything checks out whilst the new employee is on "trial".   Employers don't always request Medical Records as it cost's £oney to access information, on top of the HR time involved.   And I would suggest that not all medical information is forthcoming to employers, certain health conditions are outwith what they have a "right" to know.   Though to bypass all of this, employers just send potential employees for a full medical examination before any position is offered on a permanent basis.   Probably why there are so many self-employed people (?) .... as they can't 'sack' themselves from having a health condition.   --- On Wed, 11/11/09, mac pic <macpic91@googlemail .com> wrote: From: mac pic <macpic91@googlemail .com> Subject: Re: [Carersforumuk] Re: 92% of Britons believe admitting mental illness harms career To: Carersforumuk@ yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 5:26   Is that not discrimination? 2009/11/10 Pam Pinder <pamshouse@blueyonde r.co.uk>   A right No, but if they request the information and you refuse access,  you risk losing your job. For example if you are off sick from work under going medical treatment, the employer can ask for access to you medical records but need your permission to do so. As an employee you have the right to view what information is shared before being sent to the employer. They would not have a right to request access to all of you medical records only what is relevant to what ever is causing your sickness absence.   When I applied for the job I am in at present, I was still taking anti depressants which I disclosed on the questionnaire. Before I was accepted for the post the employer asked for my permission to contact my GP to ensure I was fit to do the job I am employed to do. They had no right to this information I could have refused, but if I refused I would not have got the job.    Pam     ----- Original Message ----- From: mac pic To: Carersforumuk@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 8:34 PM Subject: Re: [Carersforumuk] Re: 92% of Britons believe admitting mental illness harms career   Do employers have a right to see your medical records?  Probably not. But I accept your point about journalists, they think its OK to spell out peoples problems in print, more should take them to court. ian 2009/11/9 sasone2one <pamshouse@blueyonde r.co.uk>   Believe it or not Alex, family members/carers also have to deal with this stigma...I could tell you a few stories myself! It might be the best option for the person labelled not to reveal past problems, but if they do not disclose in a job application they risk losing their job anyway. I also find this ironic when family members can be refused this information with the excuse of confidentiality but strangers such as employers have the right to be informed? Not only this if someone with a MH diagnosis committs a crime their diagnosis is usually reveal in size 50 print on the front page headlines in a newspaper for the world to see, where confidentiality goes straight out of the window! Pam --- In Carersforumuk@ yahoogroups. com, Alex Jenson <alexjenson04@ ...> wrote: > > > Until the mass market tabloids grow up and stop witch-hunting every time a schizophrenic person is involved in a crime --Newsflash- - people without mental health problems also do bad things -- until this culture of infantile mass media defining the parameters of every debate, changes, then nothing will change. But then the Sun is written for grown up children. > If you've had a problem in the past, keep it to yourself, bury it, if it's no longer relevant, it's no longer relevant, and it's nobody else's business. Best way really. > I once did a Masters degree and one day the supposedly enlightened head of the course (who knew about my past difficulties) said to me that 'he didn't want to see anybody get harmed'....a sad and shocking comment. People, whether they are educated or not, will always have these savage prejudices. > No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.704 / Virus Database: 270.14.59/2494 - Release Date: 11/10/09 07:38:00

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Peter Townsend Memorial Conference

Conway Hall

25 Red Lion Square

London, WC1 (nearest tube: Holborn)

Friday 20th November 2009

10.00am to 4.00pm

 

For free tickets please send an e-mail to:

 

townsend-memorial@...

 

This free one day memorial conference for Peter Townsend will consist of four panels of speakers about Inequalities in Health, Older People, Poverty & Social Exclusion and Social Policy.  The aim of the conference is to be forward looking rather than only reminiscing about the past.  Speakers will be asked to spend at least half their time talking about what still needs to be done (both academically and politically) and how this can be achieved.  Each session will have time for discussion.

 

Speakers will include:

Julio Boltvinik (El Colegio de M�xico)

Jonathan Bradshaw (University of York)

Roger Bullock (Social Research Unit at Dartington) Danny Dorling (University of Sheffield) David Gordon (Townsend Centre for International Poverty Research) Kate Green (Child Poverty Action Group) Paddy Hillyard (Queen's University, Belfast) Hilary Land (University of Bristol) Ruth Levitas (University of Bristol) Roy Parker (Centre for Social Policy) Allyson Pollock (University of Edinburgh) Asuncion St.Clair (University of Bergen) Randall Smith (University of Bristol) Nick Spencer (University of Warwick) Peter Taylor-Gooby (University of Kent) Alan Walker (University of Sheffield) Margaret Whitehead (University of Liverpool) Nicola Yeates (Open University)

 

This memorial conference is designed to complement the memorial celebration that will be held at St Martins in the Field, Trafalgar Square, London WC2N 4JJ, between 11.00am and 12.30pm on Thursday 19th November - all are invited.

 

 

The conference is being supported by Academy of Social Sciences, British Academy, Child Poverty Action Group, Comparative Research Programme on Poverty, Fabian Society, Social Policy Association, Social Research Unit at Dartington and the University of Bristol.

 

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