Re: [Carersforumuk] Substance Abuse May Account for Most Violent Acts in Schizophrenia
I totally agree with everything you say Pam it's very frustrating, the best practitioners are those who view this as a whole family perspective because carers have to recover too lol Gx
--- On Fri, 6/11/09, Pam Pinder <pamshouse@...> wrote:
From: Pam Pinder <pamshouse@...> Subject: Re: [Carersforumuk] Substance Abuse May Account for Most Violent Acts in Schizophrenia To: Carersforumuk@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, 6 November, 2009, 9:32

Yes I think something like this does help Georgie, but we also suffer that pain with them! Which is often overlooked by professionals when the focus is all on the patient. I think there should be more family work involved and people like us should be employed to do this. Hence my recent start on the family therapy course. All of this has a deep psychological affect upon everyone both the service user and their family that goes much wider than stigma. But I think the stigma is the first thing that needs to be tackled.
Subject: Re: [Carersforumuk] Substance Abuse May Account for Most Violent Acts in Schizophrenia
Absolutely right it's disgraceful, my son gave a speech to 300 pharmacists recently and he received a standing ovation. This helped me with my feelings of utter disgust for the pain he has suffered through stigma. Respect is far too long overdue Gx
From: Pam Pinder <pamshouse@blueyonde r.co.uk> Subject: Re: [Carersforumuk] Substance Abuse May Account for Most Violent Acts in Schizophrenia To: Carersforumuk@ yahoogroups. com Date: Thursday, 5 November, 2009, 8:44 PM
I think this should come under discrimination on a par with racial discrimination. Personally I can't see the difference.
Subject: Re: [Carersforumuk] Substance Abuse May Account for Most Violent Acts in Schizophrenia
What about all those London knife murders? Weren't there about 20 stabbings in the space of 6 months or something? It would be interesting to know how many of the perpetrators of that series of crimes were 'mentally ill'....I seem to remember that there was little mention of such factors at the time. Yet when one person with a diagnosis of schizophrenia does something horrendous, everyone is running for the nuclear bunker at the first sight of a full moon. I read the opening chapters of a Val McDermid book, an author who does nothing for me whatsoever.. ..it was set on a mental ward and was riddled with cliches about the full moon and how it supposedly, in the writer's head, caused uncontrollable outbreaks of violence. People tend to read and believe this sort of crap...alcohol causes far more problems socially, but of course, nobody wants to prattle on about that lest the massive booze
industry should somehow be held accountable.
I think crimes of violence are often triggered by alcohol and drug abuse, minus mental illness. We see and hear enough about it in the news almost daily, I also think it's down to the individuals nature whether they are violent or not. Not the fact they have schizophrenia, it always gets to me that schizophrenia is targeted. All this article does is endorse the misconception that people with schizophrenia have a potential for violence. Rarely is it mentioned that people with depression, post natal depression Bi polar and other can also become psychotic, it's always schizophrenia that is highlighted.
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