It is also interesting to consider the nanobacteria question.
What causes the calcium phosphate to form in the tissues?
You can find pictures on the net of the little hard "houses" these ultra
tiny bacteria form.
Is this what is loading us down?
How to kill them?
FIR, oxygen / H2O2, iodine, microelectricity?
All worth googling.

It is also interesting that a low-phosphate diet is also low in many of the
substances that cause problems, like a HG diet.

R


> increased production of phosphates inside the cell
> so that magnesium
> is not used up so rapidly.  The 64 thousand dollar
> question is how
> does one do that?
jim

and his theory of fibromyalgia is based on this
imbalance of phosphates and minerals in the body
you would be intersted in his thesis and his research
i think
it might answer your 64million dollar question

anna glynn(ireland)

The answer, in this case is to correct whatever is
> causing the
> increased production of phosphates inside the cell
> so that magnesium
> is not used up so rapidly.  The 64 thousand dollar
> question is how
> does one do that?

jim
i am on a programme to expel phosphates from the body
as it is believed we fms patients are overloaded
do you know the work of dr.paul st amand
he has a book
"what your doctor may not tell you about fibromyalgia"
warner press
and his theory of fibromyalgia is based on this
imbalance of phosphates and minerals in the body

you would be intersted in his thesis and his research
i think
it might answer your 64million dollar question

anna glynn(ireland)



--- thmicom <clements@...> wrote:

> --- In CFS-FMS_FIRST-Aid@yahoogroups.com,
> surpriseshan2@... wrote:
> >
> >       And even if one can get ones' magnesium
> levels up; there is the
> > problems of keeping them up. According to one of
> Mark's posts, Dr
> Myhill has tried
> > getting her patients mag levels up by giving them
> an mag injection
> every week --
> > and this has worked. However, Dr Myhill says that
> after 2 (two)
> weeks, the
> > levels are back down again and the patient is
> again magnesium deficient.
>
> According to information on one clinics site in the
> UK ( I used to
> have links to the articles but they've redone their
> site and I've not
> found them again. )  When magnesium is injected in
> persons w/ CFS/FMS
> the magnesium binds with phospates at the cell, is
> blocked from
> getting into the cell, and the person is magnesium
> deficient again the
> next day.
>
> The problem is not so much that the body is probably
> not getting the
> magnesium but that it is using the magnesium up too
> fast.
>
> I don't know if glutathione needs magnesium.  But
> studies have shown
> that when magnesium levels go low, glutathione
> levels go down.  So the
> body does apparently require magnesium to produce
> glutathione or it
> may be that due to low magnesium levels, the rate of
> expenditure of
> glutathione goes up.  But what is probably the case
> is that magnesium
> is neccessary for ATP production and ATP is required
> for glutathione
> production so when magnesium goes low, so too does
> ATP production and
> subsequently glutathione goes low.
>
> The answer, in this case is to correct whatever is
> causing the
> increased production of phosphates inside the cell
> so that magnesium
> is not used up so rapidly.  The 64 thousand dollar
> question is how
> does one do that?
>
> All the best,
> Jim
>
> > If one
> > takes the transdermal magnesium chloride in baths
> 3 or 4 times a
> week after
> > getting the levels up, one can keep them up: at
> least this is my
> understanding.
> > Did you know that glutathione needs magnesium?
> >            I suggest that you ask Mark any
> questions if you need
> more info.
> >                     Blessings
> >                         Shan
> >
>
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Hi Mary,

   It's good to hear that you are still doing well.  I will sometimes
wonder how those that have seen improvement are still doing.  I never
hear from them.  I've made a few changes to the program which I'll
email you.

   The changes as far as sauna goes is less intense but more frequent,
more in line with how the researchers used them in the trials in
japan.  There have been about 4 people that have seen an increase in
pain using the FIR heaters for sauna.  I think I understand why now,
which I'll explain another time.  After I finish the article about the
japanese researchers data.

   I've also made some changes to the dietary portion of the program.
I'm not too keen on the isolated minerals any longer.  Take one and
you upset the balance of another.

   I've emailed the revised program to a few people that have asked for
it.  I've not heard back from any that they are going to give it a go.
But hopefully a few will.  Eventually I'll share the revised program
on my website.

I'm glad to hear that your daughter is still seeing some improvements.
  I think that if she includes the other suggestions of the program she
will see more improvement.  At least that is what I'm hoping.  There
is still one product that I need to find and include, a good food
source supplement for magnesium.  Until then I think that green
vegetables should work.

All the best,
Jim


--- In CFS-FMS_FIRST-Aid@yahoogroups.com, "marylou55" <mkline6499@...>
wrote:
>
> I thought I would check in. I have now been really in good health for
> a long time. I am not even sure how long. Jim's program has been
> wonderful for me. I still do my FIR sauna's.I propbably do one every
> two weeks now. My daughter who had Fibromyalgia had a recent
> recurrence of her Fibro. She has adopted a child, gone to china for a
> couple of weeks got busy and quit doing her sauna's. She said one day
> that she was in a lot of pain and realized she needed to get back on
> the program. I talked to her tonight and she said she is feeling so
> much better. She has propably been in her sauna twice a week for a
> couple of months and tonight said she is feeling so much better. She
> had been ill for many years, she has an 18 year old daughter and I
> remember that she could not stand for her to touch her when she was
> small. She has lived for a long time with a lot of pain. We both feel
> like we have had so much help with the FIR heaters. I am very
> greatful. I wish everyone could get the help we have had. I still take
> my Rich's minerals daily.  I keep thinking I will stop. Then when I
> sauna I take my Emergen C. My daughter is taking some electrolyte
> replacement from Melelluca co. I hope you all have a good year. Mary
>

I thought I would check in. I have now been really in good health for
a long time. I am not even sure how long. Jim's program has been
wonderful for me. I still do my FIR sauna's.I propbably do one every
two weeks now. My daughter who had Fibromyalgia had a recent
recurrence of her Fibro. She has adopted a child, gone to china for a
couple of weeks got busy and quit doing her sauna's. She said one day
that she was in a lot of pain and realized she needed to get back on
the program. I talked to her tonight and she said she is feeling so
much better. She has propably been in her sauna twice a week for a
couple of months and tonight said she is feeling so much better. She
had been ill for many years, she has an 18 year old daughter and I
remember that she could not stand for her to touch her when she was
small. She has lived for a long time with a lot of pain. We both feel
like we have had so much help with the FIR heaters. I am very
greatful. I wish everyone could get the help we have had. I still take
my Rich's minerals daily.  I keep thinking I will stop. Then when I
sauna I take my Emergen C. My daughter is taking some electrolyte
replacement from Melelluca co. I hope you all have a good year. Mary

--- In CFS-FMS_FIRST-Aid@yahoogroups.com, surpriseshan2@... wrote:
>
>       And even if one can get ones' magnesium levels up; there is the
> problems of keeping them up. According to one of Mark's posts, Dr
Myhill has tried
> getting her patients mag levels up by giving them an mag injection
every week --
> and this has worked. However, Dr Myhill says that after 2 (two)
weeks, the
> levels are back down again and the patient is again magnesium deficient.

According to information on one clinics site in the UK ( I used to
have links to the articles but they've redone their site and I've not
found them again. )  When magnesium is injected in persons w/ CFS/FMS
the magnesium binds with phospates at the cell, is blocked from
getting into the cell, and the person is magnesium deficient again the
next day.

The problem is not so much that the body is probably not getting the
magnesium but that it is using the magnesium up too fast.

I don't know if glutathione needs magnesium.  But studies have shown
that when magnesium levels go low, glutathione levels go down.  So the
body does apparently require magnesium to produce glutathione or it
may be that due to low magnesium levels, the rate of expenditure of
glutathione goes up.  But what is probably the case is that magnesium
is neccessary for ATP production and ATP is required for glutathione
production so when magnesium goes low, so too does ATP production and
subsequently glutathione goes low.

The answer, in this case is to correct whatever is causing the
increased production of phosphates inside the cell so that magnesium
is not used up so rapidly.  The 64 thousand dollar question is how
does one do that?

All the best,
Jim

> If one
> takes the transdermal magnesium chloride in baths 3 or 4 times a
week after
> getting the levels up, one can keep them up: at least this is my
understanding.
> Did you know that glutathione needs magnesium?
>            I suggest that you ask Mark any questions if you need
more info.
>                     Blessings
>                         Shan
>

Hello Jim.
      Yes; Dr Mark Sircus is very knowledgable about what he writes about; at
least in my opinion.
       The 'magnesium oil' is NOT an oil nor is it mixed with an oil. They
only call it an 'oil' as it feels like an oil. It is magnesium chloride in
seawater; just and only seawater. It has not been processed with any chemicals
as so
many transdermal magnesium products  have, and is very pure. 31% to 35 % of
the product is magnesium chloride. The rest is seawater with only trace
minerals in it. It is NATURAL, from the sea.
          The problem with getting ALL of ones magnesium from food is that
even if ones eats organic foods, the earth is very depleted in magnesium plus
other minerals and one cannot really get enough from our foods anymore  -- or
such is my understanding from reading all of Mark's posts plus doing research of
my own. I often follow up on some of the references in his posts too.
       And even if one can get ones' magnesium levels up; there is the
problems of keeping them up. According to one of Mark's posts, Dr Myhill has
tried
getting her patients mag levels up by giving them an mag injection every week --
and this has worked. However, Dr Myhill says that after 2 (two) weeks, the
levels are back down again and the patient is again magnesium deficient. If one
takes the transdermal magnesium chloride in baths 3 or 4 times a week after
getting the levels up, one can keep them up: at least this is my understanding.
Did you know that glutathione needs magnesium?
            I suggest that you ask Mark any questions if you need more info.
                     Blessings
                         Shan

> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 18:34:41 -0000
>   From: "thmicom" <clements@...>
> Subject: Some things to ponder.
>
>
> I hope that all are doing well.
>
> Just so that there is no confusion re: magnesium oil that has recently
> been mentioned in a couple posts in this forum.  I have no first-hand
> experience with the product so can not recommend a person use it or
> not.  It is not part of the program that I suggest.
>
> From the posts that I've read from the person that is promoting this
> product, my impression is that he is very knowledgeable.  His focus
> seems to be on the importance of magnesium for health.  I agree that
> magnesium is important, but so are a number of other minerals and
> nutrients.  The importance of any one is relative to the individual
> and her/his own deficiencies or excesses of it.  In general, most
> people in the US are deficient in magnesium.
>
> As I said I have no experience with the product but it sounds like it
> is some mixture of magnesium and some kind of oil (I'm guessing olive
> oil since fish oil would be a little too aromatic) and it is applied
> topically, to the skin.  The magnesium and oil is then absorbed
> through the skin.
>
>  My thinking on this is that this pathway may be necessary for those
> that, for some reason, are not able to eat since the design of the
> body is to obtain this nutrient from the foods that we eat.
>
> If a person needs magnesium, they had better be eating foods that are
> good sources for magnesium.  Any supplement should should not be taken
> to compensate for poor choices in the diet.  If ignorant of what foods
> are good sources of magnesium, do a google search on the topic.  Don't
> concentrate on any one food item, but include a variety of all.  As
> each food will provide a different mix of nutrients.
>
> A person could eat a diet rich in magnesium foods but still exhibit
> signs of deficiency.  Is this a situation in which the person should
> look to a topical application of the mineral to obtain it?
>
> It takes time for the body to correct a mineral imbalance, maybe a few
> months.  If the body is unable to get it from the foods that we eat,
> assuming the nutrient is in the food, then this may indicate that
> there might be other areas that may first need to be addressed.
> Either there may be a problem with digestion in which the body is not
> able to take up the mineral or there may be a problem in which the
> body is using up magnesium faster than it is being provided in the
> diet such as too much protein or too much sugar, or alcohol, or
> caffiene all of which require more magnesium.  In either case, these
> areas need to be corrected too, before magnesium balance can be restored.
>
> Well enough on magnesium.



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I hope that all are doing well.

Just so that there is no confusion re: magnesium oil that has recently
been mentioned in a couple posts in this forum.  I have no first-hand
experience with the product so can not recommend a person use it or
not.  It is not part of the program that I suggest.

From the posts that I've read from the person that is promoting this
product, my impression is that he is very knowledgeable.  His focus
seems to be on the importance of magnesium for health.  I agree that
magnesium is important, but so are a number of other minerals and
nutrients.  The importance of any one is relative to the individual
and her/his own deficiencies or excesses of it.  In general, most
people in the US are deficient in magnesium.

As I said I have no experience with the product but it sounds like it
is some mixture of magnesium and some kind of oil (I'm guessing olive
oil since fish oil would be a little too aromatic) and it is applied
topically, to the skin.  The magnesium and oil is then absorbed
through the skin.

   My thinking on this is that this pathway may be necessary for those
that, for some reason, are not able to eat since the design of the
body is to obtain this nutrient from the foods that we eat.

If a person needs magnesium, they had better be eating foods that are
good sources for magnesium.  Any supplement should should not be taken
to compensate for poor choices in the diet.  If ignorant of what foods
are good sources of magnesium, do a google search on the topic.  Don't
concentrate on any one food item, but include a variety of all.  As
each food will provide a different mix of nutrients.

A person could eat a diet rich in magnesium foods but still exhibit
signs of deficiency.  Is this a situation in which the person should
look to a topical application of the mineral to obtain it?

It takes time for the body to correct a mineral imbalance, maybe a few
months.  If the body is unable to get it from the foods that we eat,
assuming the nutrient is in the food, then this may indicate that
there might be other areas that may first need to be addressed.
Either there may be a problem with digestion in which the body is not
able to take up the mineral or there may be a problem in which the
body is using up magnesium faster than it is being provided in the
diet such as too much protein or too much sugar, or alcohol, or
caffiene all of which require more magnesium.  In either case, these
areas need to be corrected too, before magnesium balance can be restored.

Well enough on magnesium.  On to what I had wanted to write about, our
greatest freedom: choice.

You and I are where we are because of the direct and indirect
consequences of the choices that we have made.  And, in part, the
choices of those that have gone before us, our parents, grandparents,
etc..., have contributed to our current state of being.

Now I might think, "I did not choose this".  Had I known that certain
choices would have lead me to this state, I might have chosen
differently.  "Had I known" is a key point.  In most things we don't
know what the long term effects of our choices will be.  Especially
since the choices made by others will sometimes have an influence upon
the outcome.

Life is all about choices.  We can choose to act or not to take act,
but our inaction too is a choice.  We make the choice, we live, and we
learn.  If the outcome is not what we had wanted hopefully we can make
the connection and correct our choices such that they bring about the
desired outcome.

Abraham Lincoln said "Man is about as happy as he makes up his mind to
be".  If I were asked to make a list of persons in history noted for
being happy, Abraham Lincoln would probably not be listed.  Given the
amount of hardship and stress in his life It is no wonder he did not
appear to be more happy.  Maybe this was something that he learned as
a result of his hard life?  And so was not able to apply the principle
except toward the end of his life.

Victor Frankl, enduring the horrors in the concentration camps during
WW2, found that the one thing that could not be taken from him is his
freedom to choose his attitude toward his circumstances.  From his
book, Man's Search for Meaning, "We can discover this meaning in life
in three different ways: (1) by doing a deed; (2) by experiencing a
value; and (3) by suffering."

"It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what
life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of
life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being
questioned by life - daily and hourly. Our answer must consist, not in
talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life
ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to
its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for
each individual." p.122
http://www.geocities.com/~webwinds/frankl/quotes.htm

Well, that should be enough to ponder for a while.  For those that
chose to ask for information on the revised program and will choose to
follow it, I hope that you will also let me know of your status, how
you are applying it, and your progress.

All the best,
Jim

I used to work at International House of Pancakes. You set your goals.
You go for them. It's a dream. I made it happen. It was the worst job
I ever had in my entire life. I tell you something: When people would
be rude...I'd touch their eggs. -Paula Poundstone

Multiple Vaccinations
       International Medical Veritas Association





            According to the Institute of Medicine (IOM) over the past 2 decades,
the pediatric immunization schedule has grown more complicated.  In 1980,
infants received immunizations against 4 diseases; today that number has risen
to 11 diseases. The National Vaccine Information Center indicates that between
1964 and 1992 the U.S. added six new vaccines to the mandatory vaccination
program which already includes multiple vaccines, such as the DPT
(diphtheria-pertussis-tetanus) and MMR (measles-mumps-rubella) vaccines.
Currently, CDC recommends vaccination against 11 vaccine preventable diseases.
One hundred years ago, children received 1 vaccine (the smallpox vaccine). Forty
years ago, children received 5 vaccines routinely (diphtheria, pertussis,
tetanus, polio, and smallpox vaccines) and as many as 8 shots by 2 years of age.
Today, children receive 11 vaccines routinely and as many as 20 shots by 2 years
of age. (See Table 1)



            Because some of these vaccines have to be administered more than
once, a child may receive up to 23 shots by the time he or she is 2 years of
age. Depending on the timing, a child might receive up to five shots during one
visit to the doctor. And now with the recent CDC recommendations for childhood
flu shots the number of vaccines rises to 12 and the possible numbers of
injections received by 2 years of age increases by another three shots, some of
which contain full strength thimerosal. Recent national surveys found that 23%
of parents questioned the number of shots recommended for their children, and
25% were concerned that vaccines might weaken the immune system.[i] The
Institute of Medicine agrees stating that "approximately one quarter of parents
believe that infants receive too many vaccines than are good for them."

       TABLE 1. Number of Vaccines and Possible Number of Injections Over the
Past 100 Years[ii]

             Year
            Number of Vaccines
            Possible Number of Injections by 2 Years of Age
            Possible Number of Injections at a Single Visit

             1900*
            1
            1
            1

             1960
            5
            8
            2

             1980
            7
            5
            2

             2000
            11
            20
            5


       ·        In 1900, children received the smallpox vaccine.

            The most recent increases in the childhood vaccine schedule are just
the beginning of a series of planned vaccines the pharmaceutical companies have
in store for our children. According to Dr. Thomas Saari, spokesperson for the
AAP, many more vaccines are in the works. In an interview in 2004 he said, "We
project over the next ten years that we'll add one to two new vaccines a
year."[iii] Dr. Andrew Wakefield recently said, "The next few years are likely
to see the introduction of ever greater numbers of vaccines and the possibility
of using combination vaccines containing up to 16 different infectious diseases,
is already being discussed in the US."[iv] In England, the British Health
Ministry has just announced the introduction of a new five in one shot, without
offering extensive proof of its safety.[v]

            Health and medical officials assure the public that the practice of
administering as many as nine vaccines in a single day is completely safe. "This
is a mistake." According to Dr. Wakefield, "Everyone accepts that no medical
intervention is without some risk. Instead of issuing blanket assurances, public
health officials should explain and quantify the risks within the context and
limitations of the safety studies that have been performed. Parents understand
risk. Instinctively, they weigh risk every time they send their children to an
adventure playground, or consent to their participation in a contact sport."



            Dr. Russell Blaylock, a prominent neurosurgeon in the United States
is one of the first to warn against the dangers of too many vaccines given
simultaneously. He says, "Vaccine complications increase dramatically when given
close together. To give the immune system time to settle down, vaccines should
be separated by six months in children and perhaps longer in adults." He
continues, "The number of vaccinations that can be given safely in a lifetime is
not unlimited. Many of these vaccinations need to be abandoned."

       An unlimited number of vaccines cannot be given safely,
        and the more vaccines given, the greater the risk of substantial harm.
                                                                            Dr.
Russell Blaylock[vi]

            Some physicians and scientists are now starting to point to the
scheduling of multiple vaccines as possibly playing an important role in many
emerging illnesses yet parents and physicians are still being assured of their
safety. For instance, autoimmune illnesses, chronic allergies and other
conditions are rising at alarming rates. According to the CDC, asthma has
increased 52% in persons between the ages of 5 and 34, and rates of death due to
asthma have risen 42% in the period between 1982 and 1992.[vii] A more recent
study by the CDC indicates that asthma has doubled during the last 20 years and
is now the most common disorder in children and adolescents.

       The incidence of childhood asthma, diabetes, and
       autoimmune diseases has doubled during the past 20 years;
        Attention Deficit Disorder has tripled, Autism has increased 600%.
       What part have vaccines played?
                                                                          
Stanley Monteith, M.D.

            "A critical point, which is never mentioned by those advocating
mandatory vaccination of children is that children's health has declined
significantly since 1960 when vaccines began to be widely used. According to the
National Health Interview Survey conducted annually by the National Center for
Health Statistics since 1957, a shocking 31% of U.S. children today have a
chronic health problem, 18% of children require special health care or related
services and 6.7% of children have a significant disability due to a chronic
physical or mental condition. Respiratory allergies, asthma and learning
disabilities are the most common of these," wrote Philip Incao, M.D. He
continued, "Since vaccinations have a lasting effect on the immune system, and
since it is known that many vaccines shift the balance of the immune system away
from its acutely-reacting "Th1" side and toward its chronically-reacting "Th2"
side it is a very plausible scenario that vaccines are contributing greatly to
the large-scale and unprecedented increase in chronic conditions such as
allergies, asthma, diabetes and a wide range of neurological dysfunctions
including learning disabilities, attention deficit disorder, seizures and autism
in U.S. children today." [viii]

           "A single vaccine given to a six-pound newborn is the equivalent of
giving a 180 lb. adult 30 vaccinations on the same day. Include in this the
toxic effects of high levels of mercury, aluminum and formaldehyde contained in
some vaccines, and the synergist toxicity is increased to unknown levels.
Further, it is known that infants do not produce significant levels of bile or
have adult renal capacity for several months after birth. Bilary transport is
the major biochemical route by which mercury is removed from the body, and
infants cannot do this very well. They also do not possess the renal (kidney)
capacity to remove aluminum. Additionally, mercury is a well-known inhibitor of
kidney function," wrote Dr. Boyd Haley.[ix] In the article Mercury Rising, Dr.
Gregory V. Stajich says, "Vaccines are the only class of medication that are
given to neonates without making dosing adjustments based on their weight."[x] 
This is a serious oversight and with this alone we can begin to see why we have
a medical disaster in the making when doctors and medical authorities are
recommending a ten-pound baby be injected with not one but up to what could now
be ten vaccines at a single visit. There is not a doctor or nurse alive who
would accept what a child receives adjusted up to their body weight.

       In reality there are no long-term studies on the non-specific
        negative long-term effects on health of early multiple vaccinations.

           The key question, when reviewing the safety of multiple vaccinations
is whether the studies used, as the foundational basis for injecting babies
repeatedly on the same day, hold the necessary scientific rigor to be used with
confidence. There are gapping flaws in these studies, riddled as they are with
conflicts of interest, which seriously compromise the positions taken by the
world's medical organizations. Dr. Wakefield reminds us, "Vaccines are a
multi-billion pound business and drug companies, with their powerful political
connections, are perceived by many as pursuing vaccine development in the
private, and not the public interest". "During the 1990s, medical school faculty
entered into other lucrative financial arrangements with drug companies, as did
their parent institutions. One of the results has been a growing pro-industry
bias in medical research - exactly where such bias doesn't belong," wrote Dr.
Marcia Angell in her recent book The Truth about Drug Companies. Dr. Angell
talks about the fantastic wealth, power and profit the pharmaceuticals wield. It
is in their, and all who are connected to their interests, to favor increases in
the numbers of vaccines given to children, whether safe or not.

           According to the Washington Post, "One of every dozen U.S. children
and teenagers -- 5.2 million -- has a physical or mental disability, according
to new figures from the 2000 Census. The figures covered children ages 5 to 20.
For people of all ages, the census counted 50 million disabled nationally, and
more than 740,000 in the Washington area. Specialists say the census numbers
probably understate the disability rate by not including people with mild
problems."[xi]

       It is not a far fetched idea that vaccines, which
        have been increasing in number, and given simultaneously
       are at the heart of medical catastrophe.

           The greatest oversight of the studies used by medical authorities to
assure the public of the safety of multiple vaccinations is their lack of
allowance for time. None of the studies used to determine the safety of multiple
injections have sufficient time frames factored into their research
designs.[xii] The vast majority of published studies of vaccine reactions
included a follow-up of up to only 48 hours. This conveniently excludes about
90% of reactions to vaccination. A group of vaccines administered can strongly
damage a few within days, but other kids show collateral damages weeks or months
afterwards. When it comes to the complicated effects of vaccines on the immune
and nervous systems it takes time for the toxins in vaccines to do their damage.
Yes it is true that some infants react within minutes or hours and die in their
cribs or in their parent's arms. But the greater and more common effects are
slow in their oncoming manifestation. Most vaccine reactions are delayed, many
starting only 2-3 weeks after vaccination thus most of the studies used by the
vaccine researchers to establish safety do not reflect on the realities of the
long term dangers. For medical officials not to measure these effects in their
research designs undermines our entire confidence and security in the childhood
immunization schedule. More and more doctors are joining in worrying that the
present course set by medical officials will succeed in completely destroying
confidence in the public health systems.

       Current vaccine programs call for repeated, multiple vaccines during
infancy,
       at a time when the immune system is immature and underdeveloped.
       Most harm from vaccine programs is probably indirect,
       not having immediate side effects, but lowering the body's
        resistance through subtle immune malfunction.
                                                                              
Dr. Harold Buttram[xiii]

            The CDC says that simultaneously applied vaccines carry no great risk
for adverse side effects. On this issue they present a case that does not stand
up to scrutiny. Even the AMA admits that the IOM examined studies looking at
multiple vaccinations and their potential to cause allergic diseases that
suggested that "certain vaccines increase the risk of developing allergic
disorders."[xiv] It makes medical sense to assume that the risks of each vaccine
are compounded in the face of other vaccines when given simultaneously together.

       Children that have received multiple vaccines are at risk for autism,
attention
       deficit disorder (ADD) or attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD).
       It is now estimated that at least two million children in the United
States have these disorders,
       and by 1995 there were over 1.5 million children taking Ritalin as a
treatment for these disorders.
                                                                                           
Dr. Garth Nicolson & Dr. Nancy Nicolson
                                                                                                                    
Institute for Molecular Medicine

           The IOM says, "A review of the possible biological mechanisms for any
adverse effects of multiple immunizations on immune function does not support
the hypothesis that the infant immune system is inherently incapable of handling
the number of vaccines presented during routine immunization scheduling."[xv]
Yet, "Since the beginning of laboratory investigation of vaccines, researchers
have known that immune system dysfunction can follow vaccination," says Dr.
Harrold Buttram. One of the most important clues to the nature of immune
malfunction following vaccines appeared in a report from Vienna entitled,
Abnormal T-lymphocyte Subpopulations in Healthy Subjects after Tetanus Booster
Immunizations.[xvi] The studies were conducted to determine the effects of
booster vaccination with tentanus toxoid on the ratio of the
helper-to-suppressor T-lymphocytes of healthy adults. Indirect
immunofluroescence evaluations of T- lymphocyte from blood samples taken before
and after booster vaccination revealed a temporary drop, in each subject, in the
helper/suppressor ratio after vaccination. The largest drop occurred three to
fourteen days post vaccination, with four of the eleven subjects demonstrating
ratios of 1.0 or less. The report pointed out that similar drops in
helper/suppressor ratios, to less than 1.0, are characteristic of acquired
immune syndrome (AIDS).[xvii] Though little follow research has been funded in
this direction, medical reason could conclude that the more vaccines given in a
single day the greater the immune suppression and the greater the possibility
for adverse reactions.

            And that's exactly what other studies tend to suggest. The
tolerability of multiple vaccinations in travel medicine, for example, indicates
that the above reasoning is correct. Dr. Borner, Muhlberger, and Jelinek at the
Department of Infectious Diseases and Tropical Medicine at the University of
Munich, Germany, in a study of 1,183 healthy travelers, found that in travelers
with double vaccinations, side effects occurred in 36.7% of vaccinees, triple
vaccinations in 40.3%, in more than three vaccinations, 50.0%.[xviii] These
researchers reported that, "Results showed an increase of the overall frequency
of side effects with an increasing number of simultaneously applied vaccines."
It seems the CDC has a short memory for in the early eighties they themselves
checked over 700 Peace Corps volunteers who had received the human diploid cell
rabies vaccine (HDCV) and found that one-half responded in an immunologically
weak way to the vaccine. According to Dr. Buttram, the CDC postulated that a
weakened immune system response to HDCV (and thus death to one unfortunate Peace
Corps volunteer after rabies exposure) resulted from immunological "interference
with a host response by multiple immunizations."[xix]

       They are giving more and more vaccinations to children
       in one session, but they seem to be saying there is no
       evidence that this will overwhelm a child's immune system.
       There is no evidence because they have not looked for it.[xx]
                                                                                     
Dr. Andrew Wakefield

            Dr. Russell Blaylock states, "The timing of the vaccinations
determines the clinical picture. Multiple vaccinations are being given to
children at one office visit-as many as 9 at a time. This combined
antigen-adjuvant overload produces intense brain microglial activation."[xxi]
The time of life that children are hit with multiple numbers of vaccines is
critical. The present vaccine schedule in many countries starts at birth and
continues at regular intervals through the first and second years of life with
increasing numbers of shots administered on the same days because of the
increasing number of vaccines added to the basic childhood immunization
schedule. "It should be obvious that this period of early infancy is one of
extreme susceptibility, with effects far greater than would result in later life
when various organ systems are more developed and stabilized," wrote Dr. Buttram

       Receiving multiple vaccines in a short period of time can cause
        immune suppression, and such individuals may be at much higher risk
        for opportunistic infections than a similar un-immunized population.
                                                                         Dr.
Garth Nicolson & Dr. Nancy Nicolson

            A doctor or health official would be lying if they said that the
typical array of vaccines given together does not collectively consist of many
toxic compounds. For instance if we added the basic chemicals used in a common
list of vaccines given together we have a list of the following compounds:

             DTaP
            Each dose (0.5 mL) contains 0.625 mg aluminum; 25 Diphtheria toxoid;
10 tetanus toxoid; 25 m g pertussis toxin; 25 m g filamentous hemagglutinin; 8 m
g pertacin; 2.5 mg
             2-phenoxyethanol; 4.5 mg sodium chloride; and 0.1 mg formaldehyde.

             Hepatitis B
             (Comvax)
            Each dose (0.5 mL) contains 0.25 mg aluminum; 10 m g of hepatitis B
antigen; 4.5 mg sodium chloride; 0.49 mg disodium phosphate dihydrate; and 0.35
mg sodium dihydrogen phosphate dihydrate.

             Haemophilus
             Influenzae (Hib)
            Each dose (0.5 mL of 0.4% sodium chloride solution) contains 10 m g
of purified Haemophilus capsular polysaccharide.

             Inactivated
             Polio Vaccine
             (IPV)
            Each 0.5 mL dose contains 40 D antigen units of type 1, 8 D antigen
units of type 2, and 32 D antigen units of type 3 poliovirus. Also present are
0.5% of 2-phenoxyethanol and 0.02% of formaldehyde (Preservatives), 5 mg
neomycin, 200 mg streptomycin, and 25 mg polymyxin.

             Pneumococcal
             vaccine
             (Prevnar)
            Each dose (0.5 mL of vaccine) contains a mixture of purified
polysaccharides of 23most prevalent or invasive pneumococcal types of
Streptococcus pneumonia dissolved in isotonic saline solution containing 0.25%
phenol as preservative.


       Chart: Mohammed Al-Bayati Ph.D[xxii]

       Until recently in the United States, and still in many parts of the world,
several of these vaccines contained strong doses of thimerosal, a highly toxic
mercury preservative, besides the above list of other toxic and potentially
damaging chemical substances. The presence of thimerosal, even with only trace
amounts present, threatens the safety of vaccines. The damaging effects of the
mercury in thimerosal (proven by itself to destroy neurons) increases
dramatically its effects when mixed with other chemicals especially aluminum.
[xxiii]

            Conveniently the CDC, AMA, and IOM information bulletins about the
safety of multiple vaccine shots do not mention this list. There are no specific
studies that measure the long-term effects of such a chemical cocktail. The
nature of individual toxins usually covers a wide spectrum of collateral damages
but when mixed together it's anyone's guess to what the ill effects will be.
Since there are no long-term studies we must look to the open population and
ascertain what is actually happening to the children subjected to vaccines given
simultaneously. What we run into is autism, which has grown in leaps and bounds
as the basic vaccine schedule has expanded. Also we see deterioration in the
general health of children as mentioned above, measured, by the increasing
incidents of childhood cancer, asthma and diabetes.

            "Few published studies on vaccine effects include before-and-after
studies of immune parameters or brain function studies such as
electroencephalograms, or long-term safety monitoring. Inadequate consideration
has been given to the additive or synergistic adverse effects of multiple
simultaneous vaccines, although in the case of toxic chemicals, two compounds
together may be 10 times more toxic than either separately, or 3 compounds 100
times more toxic," says Dr. Buttram.[xxiv] What is most obviously dangerous
about multiple vaccines is the clear and immanent danger of mercury, in the form
of thimerosal, which when given in higher and higher doses because of multiple
shots, clearly passes federal safety guidelines for safety. The higher the
amount administered the more overloaded the body becomes because of its limited
ability to eliminate mercury. Medical authorities have never factored into their
safety studies the most recent revelations that indicate that children vary
greatly in their capacity to eliminate mercury from the body because of genetic
dispositions.

            Many "vaccine adjuvants contain surface-active agents, but the
immunological roles played by these components have been essentially ignored,"
reports Dr. Y.W. Yang who did studies that demonstrated that vaccine adjuvants
have apoptotic and necrotic effects.[xxv] Dr. Russell Blaylock confirms this
saying, "Several things can activate microglia, including pesticides, MSG,
viruses, mycroplasma, bacteria, stress, aluminum, mercury, and immune
adjuvants."[xxvi] "In the case of multiple vaccinations over a short period of
time, something worse happens: the adjuvants activate the nervous system's
special immune cells, the microglia. Microlglia cells are dispersed throughout
the nervous system. Normally, they lie dormant. When activated, they can migrate
throughout the brain, secreting very powerful toxins, free radicals and immune
related chemicals (cytokines)" continues Blaylock.

         Dr. Neal Halsey of the Institute for Vaccine Safety says, "The risks of
serious consequences following vaccines are many hundreds or thousands of times
less likely than the risks associated with the diseases that the vaccines
protect against."[xxvii] Dr. Philip Incao says something different. "The present
growing distrust of vaccinations by concerned parents nationwide is a grassroots
movement that will not go away, because it springs from a very real source: from
a frequency of acute and chronic adverse effects of vaccinations far greater
than is being officially acknowledged."[xxviii]

            Every year, between 12,000 and 14,000 reports of adverse vaccine
reactions are filed with the FDA. These include hospitalizations, permanent
brain damage, and death. The FDA estimates that this figure may represent just
10 percent of the true damage being done.[xxix]

       Reported to VAERS from 1999-2002[xxx]


            Adverse Reactions Reported Age 0-6
            Hospitalizations
             reported age 0-6
            Deaths reported
             age 0-6

             DPT
            16,544
            1,631
            394

             Flu
            419
            41
            11

             Hep
            13,363
            1,840
            642

             Hib
            22463
            3,224
            843

             MMR
            18,680
            1,736
            110

             OPV
            22,915
            2,868
            866

             Total
            94,384
            9,604
            2,866


            As of the end of 2002, the VAERS system contained 244,424 total
reports of possible reactions to vaccines, including 99,145 emergency room
visits, 5,149 life-threatening reactions, 27,925 hospitalizations, 5,775
disabilities, and 5,309 deaths[xxxi], according to data compiled by Dr. Mark
Geier, a vaccine researcher in Silver Spring, Md. The data represents roughly 1
billion doses of vaccines, according to Geier. Dr. J. Anthony Morris, former
Chief Vaccine Control Officer at the US Federal Drug Administration agrees that
such evidence has great bearing on the entire vaccination question saying,
"There is a great deal of evidence to prove that immunization of children does
more harm than good".[xxxii]

            According to Dr. David Kessler, former head of the Food and Drug
Administration, "Only about 10 percent of serious events [adverse drug
reactions] are reported to the FDA."[xxxiii] If we this as a rule of thumb the
above table's numbers would look more like this.

       Reported to VAERS from 1999-2002 Multiplied By Ten


            Adverse Reactions Reported Age 0-6
            Hospitalizations
             reported age 0-6
            Deaths reported
             age 0-6

             DPT
            165,440
            16,310
            3,940

             Flu
            4,190
            410
            110

             Hep
            133,630
            18,400
            6,420

             Hib
            224,630
            32,240
            8,430

             MMR
            186,800
            17,360
            1,100

             OPV
            229,150
            28,680
            8,660

             Total
            943,840
            96,040
            28,660




           The official statistics do not touch upon the tragedy of infants found
dead in their cribs, or other babies thought to be shaken to death by their
parents - outcomes that sometimes were later attributed to adverse vaccine
reactions. These estimates also do not reflect the abominable situation in third
world countries, where immunization is forced on sick and malnourished children
who already have compromised immune systems. People with normal healthy immune
systems are less prone to complications and reactions from vaccines. It used to
be, according to Dr. Russell Baylock, "accepted by most authorities that
vaccines should not be given to individuals with impaired immunity for fear of
triggering immune attacks on the central nervous system such as encephalitis,
nerve injuries (peripheral neuropathy), multiple sclerosis and allergic
encephalomyelitis."[xxxiv] But in practice we know this is hardly the case
anymore and in many clinics around the world when a child is brought in, they
are bombarded with the full spread of vaccines available no matter what the
condition is of their immune system.



            Dr. Paul Offit states that, "The young infant is fully capable of
generating protective humoral and cellular immune responses to multiple vaccines
simultaneously."[xxxv] Dr. Wakefield reported recently that a Dr Salisbury in
England stated on television, "Without any medical or scientific basis in fact,
that children could safely be given 1,000 vaccines at once. Dr Salisbury's
transparent confusion of fact with personal opinion reflects a failure to grasp
that for adverse reactions with combination vaccines, the risk of the whole is
likely to be greater than the sum of the parts. This is particularly the case
with live viral vaccines where interference between viruses has the potential to
alter risk profoundly."[xxxvi]Dr. Buttram reminds us, "Any suppression of the
helper T-lymphocytes during this time, even of a transient nature, would
certainly be undesirable. What is known is that an AIDS-like reduced
T-lymphocyte ratio has been described in young children and may be the cause of
transient hypogammagolbulinemia of infancy.[xxxvii] As yet unresolved is the
role of vaccines given in infancy in producing this immunological
disorder."[xxxviii]



             "There is plenty of evidence to suggest that over stimulation of the
systemic immune system as by repeated inoculations spaced close together, can
result in chronic activation of brain microglia, the nervous system's immune
mechanism. Gulf War veterans were exposed to as many as 17 inoculations over a
very short period of time. Such over stimulation of the systemic immunity,
either in children receiving a multitude of inoculations to their immune system,
or adults in the military who are subjected to aggressive short term inoculation
programs speeded up as troops prepare for war, can produce deleterious effects
on the nervous system function, including neurodegeneration," states Dr.
Blaylock.  After the Persian Gulf War, more than 150,000 veterans came down with
Gulf War illnesses (GWI), chronic fatiguing illnesses similar to CFS or myalgic
encephomyelitis. Dr. William F. Baumzweiger said, "A combination of exposures to
biohazards in the Gulf and multiple vaccinations were among the core causes," of
Gulf War Syndrome (GWS).

            Speaking of the common grounds between autism and GWS Dr. Blaylock
says, "Both syndromes manifest an impaired peripheral immune system, a possible
consequence of excessive vaccination itself, neurotoxic vaccine additives
(aluminum and mercury), and immune-suppressive viruses such as the measles
virus. This should serve as a caution to those who would add even more vaccines
to a schedule already too crowded, as well as an indication to reassess the
current schedule."[xxxix]

       The most likely sources for the immune disturbances and chronic
        bacterial infections found in GWI patients are the multiple
        vaccines that were used in a short period during deployment.[xl]
                                                                              Dr.
Garth Nicolson

            Medically the truth is that vaccines are administered simultaneously
for convenience not safety, because medical policymakers realize that the number
of visits to a healthcare provider (for vaccines) is an impediment to receiving
all the recommended shots. The CDC talks about, "two practical factors in favor
of giving a child several vaccinations during the same visit. First, we want to
immunize children as early as possible to give them protection during the
vulnerable early months of their lives. This generally means giving inactivated
vaccines beginning at 2 months and live vaccines at 12 months. The various
vaccine doses thus tend to fall due at the same time. Second, giving several
vaccinations at the same time will mean fewer office visits for vaccinations,
which saves parents both time and money and may be less traumatic for the
child."

       "Our beautiful daughter was born in February and died in April.
        What was unusual was that on the day that she died, I had taken her
        to the military base hospital for her two-month checkup.
        The doctor told me that she was just perfect.
       Then the doctor said that she needed four shots.
        I replied Four! She assured me that it was completely normal
        and that it was better to give her all at such an early age.
        That evening after feeding her, we laid her down to sleep
        and checked on her 45 minutes later. She was dead.
       After three weeks we finally got an answer from the autopsy
        that it was indeed SIDS. To this day I believe that it was the shots
        and no one can convince me otherwise."[xli]

            The nation and the world are faced with a crisis in medicine that is
perilously close to an emergency. The childhood immunization program, due to the
vast increase in injections (containing mercury and other toxic agents)
simultaneously given is threatening to be a fiasco for medical science. It is an
unfolding catastrophe without any comparison. The growing chorus of criticism
here and around the world from scientists and doctors is laying bare the dangers
of a system of recommended injections that statistically are proving to be
directly involved with a sharp increase in autism and other related learning
disorders, as well as sharp increases in asthma and diabetes in the young.



            The IOM, CDC, AMA, AAP, WHO, UNICEF and the FDA are proving to be
incompetent and untrustworthy in the areas of immunization, and have endangered
the health of the nation and the world. In a disaster of medical ideology over
reality, medical officials, true believers in pharmaceutically based medicine,
show that they know everything better than everybody else, and the arrogance
born of that certainty has led, step by tragic step, to the present situation
where infants are bombarded with toxic chemicals injected one after another in a
brutal attack on their young immune systems. This medical arrogance has locked
the entire medical establishment around the world into a pre-emptive war on the
health of children while slapping contempt on any physician or scientist that is
courageous enough to stand in their way.

       My daughter  received three vaccines on one day, the DTP, IPV and Hib.
       That night she was very finicky and cried all night.
       The next night I put my baby down to sleep but all she would do was cry.
       Finally she and I fell asleep from exhaustion.
        I woke up in the middle of the night and grabbed my baby
       and my heart cried out for she was all blue.
        She had died in her sleep.
        She was rushed to the hospital in a matter of minutes though
        and they worked on her for a while but there was
        nothing they could do. My angel was gone.
                                                                    Christine
Colebeck



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       [i] Gellin BG, Maibach EW, Marcuse EK. Do parents understand
immunizations? A national telephone survey. Pediatrics.2000; 106 :1097 -1102

       [ii] Offit, Paul A., - Addressing Parents' Concerns: Do Multiple Vaccines
Overwhelm or Weaken the Infant's Immune System - (Pediatrics 109:124-129, 2002)

       [iii] Bridges, Sarah - The Rise Against Mercury - Seed Magazine

       [iv] Wakefield, Andrew. Ministers have only themselves to blame for the
latest furor.  Telegraph News, England - 15/08/2004

       [v] BBC News. Q&A: The five-in-one vaccine. Monday, 9 August, 2004, 10:05
GMT 11:05 UK

       [vi] Blaylock, Russell. The Blaylock Wellness Report Vol 1, Issue 1

       [vii] Center of Disease Control - http://www.cdc.gov

       [viii] Incao, Philip -Hepatitis B Vaccination Testimony in Ohio - March 1,
1999 http://www.whale.to/m/incao.html

       [ix] Haley, Boyd. Affidavit of Boyd E Haley, Professor and Chair,
Department of Chemistry, University of Kentucky
http://64.41.99.118/vran/vaccines/mercury/mer_haley.htm

       [x] Johnson, Mercury Rising, Mercer University, Discoveries; Exhibit 2: 
Stajich, et al., Iatrogenic exposure to mercury after hepatitis B vaccination in
preterm infants, The Journal of Pediatrics, Vol. 136, No. 5, May 2000.]

       [xi] Cohn, D'Vera - Washington Post - U.S. Counts One in 12 Children As
Disabledhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A25998-2002Jul4?language=printe\
r

       [xii] Buttram, Harold et al. Woodlands Healing Research Center. "Safety
studies on vaccinations are limited to short time periods only: several days to
several weeks. There are NO (NONE!) long-term (months to years) safety studies
on any vaccination or immunization."

       [xiii] Buttram, Harold. Vaccines and Immune Malfuntion. Pg. 21
ISBN:0-916285-36-7

       [xiv] American Medical Association - Infant Immunizations Not Shown to Be
Harmful to Children's Immune Systems. 
http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/article/1824-6119.html

       [xv] Institute of Medicine - Immunization Safety Review: Vaccines and
Autism - May 17,2004 http://www.iom.edu/report.asp?id=20155

       [xvi] Eibi, Martha, Joseph Mannhalter, and Gerhard Zalbinger. Abnormal
T-lymphocyte Subpopulations in Healthy Subjects after Tetanus Booster
Immunizations. New England Journal of Medicine 310(3):198-199, Jan.19,1984

       [xvii] Buttram, Harold. Vaccines and Immune Malfuntion. 
ISBN:0-916285-36-7

       [xviii] Borner N, Muhlberger N, Jelinek T. Tolerability of multiple
vaccinations in travel medicine.
       Department of Infectious Diseases and Tropical Medicine, University of
Munich, Munich, Germany. http://www.amedeo.com/medicine/tra/jtravelm.htm

       [xix] Fishbein, D.B. et al. Studies of Decreased Response to Human Diploid
Cell Rabies Vaccine in Peace Corps Volunteers. Presentation at the 24th
Inter-science Conference on Antimicrobial Agents and Chemotherapy, Washington
D.C., 8-10 Octob er 1984

       [xx] The Scotsman, August 7 and 8, 2004

       [xxi] Blaylock, Russell. The Central Role of Excitotoxicity in Autism
Spectrum Disorders. Clinical Assistant Professor Neurosugery University of
Mississippi Medical Center

       [xxii] Al-Bayati, Mohammed. Analysis of causes that led to Baby Lucas
Alejandro Mullenax-Mendez' cardiac arrest and death in August-September, 2002.
Medical Veritas - Volume One - Issue One (2004) 45-63

       [xxiii] International Medical Veritas Association (IMVA) - Iatrogenic
Death and Disease, Mercury Poisoning, A crisis in Medical and Dental Science.
"In reality medicine has come up with many disease categories, diagnostic labels
that simply hide the truth. Autism is actually a deflection, a way of denying
the very simple truth that most of these children have been poisoned by the use
of mercury in medicine and dental products, as well as by a long list of toxins
flooding the environment. Yes there are complicating factors that need to be
discussed in depth, but as the latest information from California shows, as
mercury levels in vaccines are being reduced there, new reports of autism are
declining."

       [xxiv] Buttram, Harold. Shaken Baby Syndrome or Vaccine-Induced
Encephalitis? ww.whale.to/v/buttram68.html

       [xxv] Yang YW, Wu CA, Morrow WJ. School of Pharmacy, College of Medicine,
National Taiwan University,         ywyang@...

       [xxvi] Blaylock, Russell. The Blaylock Wellness Report. Volume One Issue
One.

       [xxvii] Halsey, Neal A. - Director, Institute for Vaccine Safety, Johns
Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health and was updated by the Immunization
Action Coalition in December 2003. Immunization Action Coalition

       [xxviii] Incao's Hepatitis B Vaccination Testimony in Ohio -
http://www.whale.to/m/incao.html

       [xxix] A great factor to consider also in counting iatrogenic deaths is
the fact that many iatrogenic death and disease go unreported. The FDA and the
American College of Physicians and Surgeons believe the majority of adverse drug
or surgical events never get reported because doctors are afraid they will get
sued if they report an error. The general rule of thumb presently used though is
between 10% to 20% percent of serious events getting reported but some people
think even less.

       [xxx] The U.S. Government's VAERS Database - Since 1990, the U.S.
Government has collected many thousands of reports of vaccine damage. This
database, called the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) is available
for anyone to download. It can be examined more easily at:
http://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/

       [xxxi] The most denied fact in medicine is that sometimes vaccinations are
lethal injections that do kill infants. In the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting
System (VAERS) there were 1,080 total reports of adverse reactions from
hepatitis B vaccine in 1996 in the 0 to 1 age group, with 47 deaths reported.
"Since July 1990, 17,497 cases of hospitalizations, injuries and deaths in
America following hepatitis B vaccination have been reported to VAERS. This
figure includes 146 deaths in individuals after receiving only hepatitis B
vaccine without any other vaccines, including 73 deaths in children under 14
years old.   In 1996 there were 872 serious adverse events in children less than
14 years old. In all, there were 38,600 reports to VAERS concerning adverse
events and 753 reports of death, occurring at all ages, shortly after the
administration of Hepatitis B vaccine. The complications in 745 survivors were
considered life threatening. There were 14,476 Emergency Room visits, and 3,115
patients were hospitalized. 914 patients became disabled and 224 developed
jaundice for this vaccine. In 64% of the deaths under 1, the cause of death was
listed as SIDS. Dr. Harris L. Coulter, said of this, "Crib death" was so
infrequent in the pre-vaccination era that it was not even mentioned in the
statistics, but it started to climb in the 1950s with the spread of mass
vaccination against diseases of childhood."

       [xxxii] Morris, Anthony. "There is no evidence that any influenza vaccine
thus far developed is effective in preventing or mitigating any attack of
influenza. The producers of these vaccines know that they are worthless, but
they go on selling them anyway." http://www.vaclib.org/basic/quotes.htm

       [xxxiii] Remarks by David Kessler, M.D. Medwatch Health Professionals
Meeting May 4, 1993 "Yet even though reports from health professionals are
critical to protecting the public health, the unfortunate fact is that most
practitioners do not think to report adverse events or product problems that
might be associated with medications, devices or other products regulated by the
FDA.  One survey found that barely half of physicians were even aware that FDA
had a reporting program.  And according to one study, only one percent of
serious events are reported to the Agency.  Meanwhile, up to 11 percent of
hospital admissions may be due to drug reactions, one review article concluded."

       [xxxiv] Blaylock, Russell. The Blaylock Wellness Report Vol 1, Issue 1

       [xxxv] Offit, Paul A. - Addressing Parents' Concerns: Do Multiple Vaccines
Overwhelm or Weaken the Infant's Immune System  - (Pediatrics 109:124-129, 2002)

       [xxxvi] Wakefield, Andrew. Ministers have only themselves to blame for the
latest furor.  Telegraph News, England - 15/08/2004

       [xxxvii] Geha, R.S. Deficiency of T helper cells in transient
hypogammagolbulinemia of infancy. New England Journal of Medicine 305(22):
1307,1981

       [xxxviii] Buttram, Harold. Vaccines and Immune Malfuntion. 
ISBN:0-916285-36-7

       [xxxix] Blaylock, Russell. The Blaylock Wellness Report Vol 1, Issue 1

       [xl] Most deployed personnel received 17 or more vaccines, some probably
experimental and administered without proper informed consent, in a two to three
day period during deployment. In a British study funded by the Department of
Defense and published in the British medical Journal Lancet an association was
found between GWS and the multiple vaccines that were administered to British
veterans. In the U.S. there have been GWS signs and symptoms in personnel who
have received the anthrax vaccine. In some cases this has resulted in chronic
illnesses in as many as 7-10% of personnel receiving the vaccine. These chronic
illnesses, including CFS/ME and other illnesses, are very similar to the
diagnosis of GWS.

       In 1999 a British study examined a large number of Gulf War exposures in
large cohorts of British Gulf War and non-deployed Gulf-era veterans, and Bosnia
veterans. They found that "Vaccination against biological warfare and multiple
routine vaccinations were associated with the CDC multi-symptom syndrome in the
Gulf War cohort." The French Ministry of Defense (MOD) also found that "multiple
vaccinations given during the war, particularly those for anthrax, botulinum and
plague, seem associated with an excess of (GWS) signs and symptoms."

       [xli] Sircus, Mark. Cry of the Heart. The Medical Insanity of Vaccines.


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having checked whether sauna stuff is in there!

" My ex-husband has Parkinson's. As
he is no longer mine to influence,... They both stick
strictly to what the doctor tells them and dutifully take the
drugs he gives..... Any ideas on stealth tactics?"

Not ethical, you have to be upfront.  All you can really do is say you have
found information that could help the treatment work (even!) better, and
that you'd really love to do all you can to help.  Apart from that,
unfortunately, if they have closed minds you have to leave them to their
outcomes.  If you pressure them, it could ruin the rapport you still have.
Then you can't even offer to help.

The way I look at it!

Rowena

But we also have no right to fight back, as our children at least here in
Canada, cant go to school unless they have the vaccinations.  It is the law.

kathy
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         Pediatricians

         The International Medical Veritas Association









              Pediatricians are the worst thing that ever happened to the human
race on vaccination issues, worse then the infectious diseases they love to
scare parents with. Worse then the oncologist whose passion is to poison and
profit from their patients, pediatricians prey on the newborn and young children
and attack anyone who even suggests that they might be doing something wrong.
Pediatricians make the most terrible mistake a doctor can make when they wrongly
assume that everything they do is right.



         Present generations of pediatricians are mercury doctors who cannot
         stand the light of medical reason or the basic science that clearly
          shows how dangerous shooting thimerosal into children can be.



              Britain's leading child health experts united this past weekend to
reassure parents that the use of multiple vaccines for children was safe,
calling claims to the contrary 'irresponsible'. Irresponsible does not quite
cover the behavior and attitudes of those who lead children to death and disease
via their constant attacks with toxic chemicals in their vaccines and drugs.
Only medically ignorant people would repeatedly dose children with antibiotics
and a host of other toxic drugs, exactly what most pediatricians' do in their
practices. Children, under the care of pediatricians are sicker emotionally and
physically then ever before. Children are having problems younger and they are
more seriously ill. For example the number of children getting Type 2 diabetes
has jumped 15-fold since 1990.



         The number of children needing treatment for emotional problems is
soaring and it is not rising just in older children, such as troubled teens;
it's also showing a rapid increase in children age 3 and younger. "The children
are younger, and they are more ill," said Sandy Bryant, director of child and
family services.  Bryant said the increasing Central Virginia Community Services
numbers are part of trend across the country. "One in every five children
suffers some sort of emotional/behavior problem," she said. "One in 20 have
serious emotional disturbance." "We are getting more and more referrals for
children who are extremely psychotic, who are suicidal, (have) a lot of cutting
behaviors, and are very challenging," said Bryant.[i]



              Anti-immunization campaigners say too many jabs can overload a
child's immune system and lead to illness. But experts say the idea endangers
children's lives. These officials in Britain like their counterparts all over
the world practice their medical and pharmaceutical terrorism[ii] without even
the notion that they are themselves are endangering children's lives. They live
behind Lilly-white self-images that act as iron curtains between medical reality
and their dangerous beliefs and practices.[iii] Never has Christ's words been so
true, "Forgive them father for they know no what they do." They have erected
fortresses of rationalizations and images that nothing will breach not even
medical truth. Perhaps we should not blame them as individuals because they have
been trained in medical school to practice what can only be considered as
malevolent medical arts specifically targeted on the most vulnerable.



         Cancer in childhood causes the most deaths, other than injuries and
accidents, among children 0-19 years of age. From the 1970s through the 1990s,
the rate of cancer for children in Europe increased by about 1 percent per year;
for the older teenagers, the rate increased by about 1.5 percent annually. By
the 1990s, there were about 140 cases of cancer for every 1 million children and
about 157 cases per 1 million teenagers, according to the report in the Dec. 11
2004 issue of The Lancet. And pediatricians have not a clue as to why.



              'The idea of vaccine overload damaging our immune defenses is
rubbish," said Professor David Goldblatt, director of clinical research and
development at Great Ormond Street Children's Hospital, London. "It is a myth,
and those who spread it are doing immense harm. The public is beginning to doubt
the worth of vaccines and that has deeply worrying implications for their
health." Yet pediatricians are mute as asthma rates among children in North
America have increased. They are now approximately four times higher than they
were 20 years ago. Children are much sicker today then ever before and
pediatricians have not a clue as to why. Clearly they will not conceive of
themselves nor their drugs and vaccines as being part of the etiology in the
dramatic increases in childhood disease.



              The Department of Health in England last week announced the
introduction of a new jab against the pneumococcal bug, which causes a deadly
strain of meningitis, in addition to a booster for Hib disease, which can cause
meningitis. This means that by the time a child is two he will have had 25
vaccinations, although some will be given in five-in-one or three-in-one
combinations. Groups like the anti-vaccine campaign Jabs, backed by several
tabloid newspapers, are arguing that so many vaccines put too much strain on
children's immune systems. They pointedly state that previous combinations of
vaccines had triggered serious side-effects in children.



             "The claim was flatly rejected by scientists," reported the Observer
in England. It is clear that pediatricians will defend to their last breath
their right to attack children with simultaneous needles outdistancing their
distant cousins in the concentration camps who were able to do their dirty deeds
with one shot. It is a fact that the very pharmaceutical companies that were
involved in those dark days are the very same companies whose shadow dominates
all allopathic medical schools and thus the information fed to pediatricians.



              The protest is alarming, say medical officials, because it has
already led parents to reject vaccination for their children. 'That can only
lead to deaths,' said Goldblatt. 'Diseases like measles and mumps can, in small
numbers of cases, cause serious disease and even kill.' What he will not admit
is that pediatricians are doing exactly that, causing serious illness in
children and even killing some of them with their vaccines and other drugs. So
fearful are pediatricians of the downside of the vaccines they administer it is
almost impossible in hospitals to see the cause of death listed as from
vaccines. Yet deaths do occur much more frequently then ever admitted as
government statistics clearly show. Pediatricians in England and the United
States even go as far as accusing parents of killing their kids, calling it
Shaken Baby Syndrome. Rather than admit that when a child dies after going home
after being stabbed repeatedly in a single session with many vaccines, they take
the vaccines as a coincidence and prosecute and throw parents in prison for
life.



              Interesting enough the Telegraph in England reported this week that
eighteen babies and toddlers have died following childhood vaccinations in just
four years, a secret Government report reveals.[iv] Four deaths have been linked
to suspected adverse reactions to the measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) triple
jab, according to documents prepared for the Government's expert advisers on
immunization. The report, covering the period between 2001 and 2004, details how
one baby suffered a cot death following MMR vaccination in 2003. Two more
infants were reported to have died after having the MMR jab in 2001. Six
fatalities followed meningitis C vaccinations between 2001 and 2003. The deaths
of seven other babies were linked to combined vaccines against diphtheria,
tetanus and whooping cough and reported to the Medicines and Healthcare products
Regulatory Agency (MHRA). They include a baby who died from a heart attack.
Another died after a polio jab. Almost 800 other reports of suspected
complications of childhood vaccination - including convulsions and hyptonia, in
which the baby becomes floppy like a "rag doll" - were also made, including 160
for MMR.



              Experts say that the true figures for suspected fatalities and
serious side effects could be much greater. Dr John Griffin, the former editor
of the medical journal Adverse Drug Reactions, said: "For fatalities, it is
probably only one in two which gets reported and for other side effects one in
10." This means that almost 40 baby deaths could have occurred in England
following jabs between 2001 and 2004, and 8,000 serious adverse reactions.



             Researchers like Dr. Boyd Haley, a mercury toxicity expert at the
University of Kentucky, and Dr.Richard Deth, a pharmaceutical science researcher
at Northeastern University, say government officials dismiss the dangers of
vaccines (and the mercury they contain) because they don't want to take
responsibility. They say the government also doesn't want to undermine an
immunization policy that, according to them, has saved many lives even if they
are hurting lots of children. It is this abandonment of responsibility that is
criminally dangerous. And it is on the alter of their attachment to the concept
and theory that immunizations have saved so many lives that pediatricians fall
from rational medical thought into the pit of medical disgrace.





   --------------------------------------------------------------------------




             In the next email is a chapter from the IMVA's upcoming vaccine book
Poisoning of Generations. It deals deeply with the subject of multiple vaccines
and provides information and statistics from the western side of the Atlantic.
'The idea we are overloading the system is therefore utterly ridiculous," says
Dr David Elliman to the Observer. Read the essay on Multiple Vaccines and you
decide who is ridiculous, who is the terrorist, who the mean and cruel ones are
that are basking in the light of their arrogance. When it comes to protecting
our babies tough talk and deeds are required. The lioness is not passive in
protecting her cubs and neither should we be.



         Mark Sircus Ac., OMD
         Director International Medical Veritas Association
         http://www.MagnesiumForLife.com
         http://www.imva.info
         http://www.detoxchelationclinic.com
         http://www.worldpsychology.net
         +55-83-3252-2195
         www.skype.com ID: marksircus

         IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER: The communication in this email is intended for
informational purposes only. Nothing in this email is intended to be a
substitute for professional medical advice.





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         Response:



         It is regarding parents in ____ who were being charged with killing
their 15mo. old daughter, a case which ____ worked as a Crimes against Children
Investigator. The 15 mo. old had been to the ER and multiple family physicians
repeatedly because she was having seizures.  One of these seizures led to her
death.  The state's medical examiner ruled it a homicide-shaken baby syndrome. 
Of course, the parents were charged immediately. Because _____ is an
extraordinary cop, he picked up immediately that these parents and caregivers
did not kill the child.  So_____, being the extraordinary cop he is, started
researching, found some research which proved that this WAS NOT a case of
"shaken baby syndrome" because THERE WAS NO SOFT TISSUE NECK INJURY, which would
be present if it actually was SBS. The research came from Berkley, Royal London
Hospital, and Australia, where a doc believes SBS is caused by VACCINES!  He did
a "Google" search for "shaken baby" and came up with the studies.  (Yes, even
cops use Google to solve crimes....or the lack thereof!)  For his extraordinary
detective work, he received a Certificate of Award from his department.  At
least, one set of parents didn't go to jail for the supposed murder of their
child. I agree whole heartedly with the author of this post!  The doctors and
pediatricians are the ones who ought to go to jail for life for murdering these
children!



   --------------------------------------------------------------------------

        
[i]http://www.newsadvance.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=LNA/MGArticle/LNA_Basic\
Article&c=MGArticle&cid=1137834041526

         [ii] A careful study of pharmaceutical terrorism entails taking a trip
into the darkest places that exist in humanity and it is no accident that when
we make the journey we find ourselves in places where doctors and scientists
work together as they did in Nazi Germany. This subject takes us to the bottom
cellars of hell, into the deepest and darkest dungeon, into a place and into a
type of person that defiles the very nature of beauty, love, a place where all
human heart is lost. The Nazi doctors offer us a view of even greater monsters
that have remained invisible, dressed as they are eternally in three-piece
suits. There is a direct line of continuity that can be traced between a group
of men and companies that arose to the heights of industrial power years before
Hitler, men and companies who existed and supported the rise of Nazi Germany,
and who continued on to the present day in comfortable corporate luxury and
power. (The personnel, infrastructure and technology of companies like Bayer,
for example, have flowed on continuously through 3 incarnations of corporate
name and structure.) The greatest criminals in the history of the world actually
were not these Nazi doctors; they were and still are the people who populate the
top hierarchies of the giant pharmaceutical and chemical companies of the world
and the men and woman who work for them shuffling back and forth between these
companies and the CDC and FDA in the United States. Yet most of these men, like
many before them, will plead complete ignorance to all harm that they are doing.

         [iii] Imagination is the level of awareness, which is directly involved
in how we "see" things. When we "see" or imagine ourselves a certain way (or
thing) we lock ourselves into the parameters of what we see. Thus it becomes
difficult to "see" ourselves (or certain things) any other way than the way we
see. It is exactly our "fixed images" of medicine that lead to the fixed
approaches and ways of rigid thinking and practice that are literally killing
millions of people each year. Medical practice and especially the medical
authorities are sitting in their seats of power with very tightly controlled
self-images (egos), unassailable like a castle with all the parapets bristling
with cannons, waiting to be defensively aggressive when anyone challenges the
status quo.

         [iv]
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/02/12/nmmr12.xml&s


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Pediatricians

       The International Medical Veritas Association









            Pediatricians are the worst thing that ever happened to the human
race on vaccination issues, worse then the infectious diseases they love to
scare parents with. Worse then the oncologist whose passion is to poison and
profit from their patients, pediatricians prey on the newborn and young children
and attack anyone who even suggests that they might be doing something wrong.
Pediatricians make the most terrible mistake a doctor can make when they wrongly
assume that everything they do is right.



       Present generations of pediatricians are mercury doctors who cannot
       stand the light of medical reason or the basic science that clearly
        shows how dangerous shooting thimerosal into children can be.



            Britain's leading child health experts united this past weekend to
reassure parents that the use of multiple vaccines for children was safe,
calling claims to the contrary 'irresponsible'. Irresponsible does not quite
cover the behavior and attitudes of those who lead children to death and disease
via their constant attacks with toxic chemicals in their vaccines and drugs.
Only medically ignorant people would repeatedly dose children with antibiotics
and a host of other toxic drugs, exactly what most pediatricians' do in their
practices. Children, under the care of pediatricians are sicker emotionally and
physically then ever before. Children are having problems younger and they are
more seriously ill. For example the number of children getting Type 2 diabetes
has jumped 15-fold since 1990.



       The number of children needing treatment for emotional problems is soaring
and it is not rising just in older children, such as troubled teens; it's also
showing a rapid increase in children age 3 and younger. "The children are
younger, and they are more ill," said Sandy Bryant, director of child and family
services.  Bryant said the increasing Central Virginia Community Services
numbers are part of trend across the country. "One in every five children
suffers some sort of emotional/behavior problem," she said. "One in 20 have
serious emotional disturbance." "We are getting more and more referrals for
children who are extremely psychotic, who are suicidal, (have) a lot of cutting
behaviors, and are very challenging," said Bryant.[i]



            Anti-immunization campaigners say too many jabs can overload a
child's immune system and lead to illness. But experts say the idea endangers
children's lives. These officials in Britain like their counterparts all over
the world practice their medical and pharmaceutical terrorism[ii] without even
the notion that they are themselves are endangering children's lives. They live
behind Lilly-white self-images that act as iron curtains between medical reality
and their dangerous beliefs and practices.[iii] Never has Christ's words been so
true, "Forgive them father for they know no what they do." They have erected
fortresses of rationalizations and images that nothing will breach not even
medical truth. Perhaps we should not blame them as individuals because they have
been trained in medical school to practice what can only be considered as
malevolent medical arts specifically targeted on the most vulnerable.



       Cancer in childhood causes the most deaths, other than injuries and
accidents, among children 0-19 years of age. From the 1970s through the 1990s,
the rate of cancer for children in Europe increased by about 1 percent per year;
for the older teenagers, the rate increased by about 1.5 percent annually. By
the 1990s, there were about 140 cases of cancer for every 1 million children and
about 157 cases per 1 million teenagers, according to the report in the Dec. 11
2004 issue of The Lancet. And pediatricians have not a clue as to why.



            'The idea of vaccine overload damaging our immune defenses is
rubbish," said Professor David Goldblatt, director of clinical research and
development at Great Ormond Street Children's Hospital, London. "It is a myth,
and those who spread it are doing immense harm. The public is beginning to doubt
the worth of vaccines and that has deeply worrying implications for their
health." Yet pediatricians are mute as asthma rates among children in North
America have increased. They are now approximately four times higher than they
were 20 years ago. Children are much sicker today then ever before and
pediatricians have not a clue as to why. Clearly they will not conceive of
themselves nor their drugs and vaccines as being part of the etiology in the
dramatic increases in childhood disease.



            The Department of Health in England last week announced the
introduction of a new jab against the pneumococcal bug, which causes a deadly
strain of meningitis, in addition to a booster for Hib disease, which can cause
meningitis. This means that by the time a child is two he will have had 25
vaccinations, although some will be given in five-in-one or three-in-one
combinations. Groups like the anti-vaccine campaign Jabs, backed by several
tabloid newspapers, are arguing that so many vaccines put too much strain on
children's immune systems. They pointedly state that previous combinations of
vaccines had triggered serious side-effects in children.



           "The claim was flatly rejected by scientists," reported the Observer
in England. It is clear that pediatricians will defend to their last breath
their right to attack children with simultaneous needles outdistancing their
distant cousins in the concentration camps who were able to do their dirty deeds
with one shot. It is a fact that the very pharmaceutical companies that were
involved in those dark days are the very same companies whose shadow dominates
all allopathic medical schools and thus the information fed to pediatricians.



            The protest is alarming, say medical officials, because it has
already led parents to reject vaccination for their children. 'That can only
lead to deaths,' said Goldblatt. 'Diseases like measles and mumps can, in small
numbers of cases, cause serious disease and even kill.' What he will not admit
is that pediatricians are doing exactly that, causing serious illness in
children and even killing some of them with their vaccines and other drugs. So
fearful are pediatricians of the downside of the vaccines they administer it is
almost impossible in hospitals to see the cause of death listed as from
vaccines. Yet deaths do occur much more frequently then ever admitted as
government statistics clearly show. Pediatricians in England and the United
States even go as far as accusing parents of killing their kids, calling it
Shaken Baby Syndrome. Rather than admit that when a child dies after going home
after being stabbed repeatedly in a single session with many vaccines, they take
the vaccines as a coincidence and prosecute and throw parents in prison for
life.



            Interesting enough the Telegraph in England reported this week that
eighteen babies and toddlers have died following childhood vaccinations in just
four years, a secret Government report reveals.[iv] Four deaths have been linked
to suspected adverse reactions to the measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) triple
jab, according to documents prepared for the Government's expert advisers on
immunization. The report, covering the period between 2001 and 2004, details how
one baby suffered a cot death following MMR vaccination in 2003. Two more
infants were reported to have died after having the MMR jab in 2001. Six
fatalities followed meningitis C vaccinations between 2001 and 2003. The deaths
of seven other babies were linked to combined vaccines against diphtheria,
tetanus and whooping cough and reported to the Medicines and Healthcare products
Regulatory Agency (MHRA). They include a baby who died from a heart attack.
Another died after a polio jab. Almost 800 other reports of suspected
complications of childhood vaccination - including convulsions and hyptonia, in
which the baby becomes floppy like a "rag doll" - were also made, including 160
for MMR.



            Experts say that the true figures for suspected fatalities and
serious side effects could be much greater. Dr John Griffin, the former editor
of the medical journal Adverse Drug Reactions, said: "For fatalities, it is
probably only one in two which gets reported and for other side effects one in
10." This means that almost 40 baby deaths could have occurred in England
following jabs between 2001 and 2004, and 8,000 serious adverse reactions.



           Researchers like Dr. Boyd Haley, a mercury toxicity expert at the
University of Kentucky, and Dr.Richard Deth, a pharmaceutical science researcher
at Northeastern University, say government officials dismiss the dangers of
vaccines (and the mercury they contain) because they don't want to take
responsibility. They say the government also doesn't want to undermine an
immunization policy that, according to them, has saved many lives even if they
are hurting lots of children. It is this abandonment of responsibility that is
criminally dangerous. And it is on the alter of their attachment to the concept
and theory that immunizations have saved so many lives that pediatricians fall
from rational medical thought into the pit of medical disgrace.





--------------------------------------------------------------------------




           In the next email is a chapter from the IMVA's upcoming vaccine book
Poisoning of Generations. It deals deeply with the subject of multiple vaccines
and provides information and statistics from the western side of the Atlantic.
'The idea we are overloading the system is therefore utterly ridiculous," says
Dr David Elliman to the Observer. Read the essay on Multiple Vaccines and you
decide who is ridiculous, who is the terrorist, who the mean and cruel ones are
that are basking in the light of their arrogance. When it comes to protecting
our babies tough talk and deeds are required. The lioness is not passive in
protecting her cubs and neither should we be.



       Mark Sircus Ac., OMD
       Director International Medical Veritas Association
       http://www.MagnesiumForLife.com
       http://www.imva.info
       http://www.detoxchelationclinic.com
       http://www.worldpsychology.net
       +55-83-3252-2195
       www.skype.com ID: marksircus

       IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER: The communication in this email is intended for
informational purposes only. Nothing in this email is intended to be a
substitute for professional medical advice.





--------------------------------------------------------------------------




       Response:



       It is regarding parents in ____ who were being charged with killing their
15mo. old daughter, a case which ____ worked as a Crimes against Children
Investigator. The 15 mo. old had been to the ER and multiple family physicians
repeatedly because she was having seizures.  One of these seizures led to her
death.  The state's medical examiner ruled it a homicide-shaken baby syndrome. 
Of course, the parents were charged immediately. Because _____ is an
extraordinary cop, he picked up immediately that these parents and caregivers
did not kill the child.  So_____, being the extraordinary cop he is, started
researching, found some research which proved that this WAS NOT a case of
"shaken baby syndrome" because THERE WAS NO SOFT TISSUE NECK INJURY, which would
be present if it actually was SBS. The research came from Berkley, Royal London
Hospital, and Australia, where a doc believes SBS is caused by VACCINES!  He did
a "Google" search for "shaken baby" and came up with the studies.  (Yes, even
cops use Google to solve crimes....or the lack thereof!)  For his extraordinary
detective work, he received a Certificate of Award from his department.  At
least, one set of parents didn't go to jail for the supposed murder of their
child. I agree whole heartedly with the author of this post!  The doctors and
pediatricians are the ones who ought to go to jail for life for murdering these
children!



--------------------------------------------------------------------------

      
[i]http://www.newsadvance.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=LNA/MGArticle/LNA_Basic\
Article&c=MGArticle&cid=1137834041526

       [ii] A careful study of pharmaceutical terrorism entails taking a trip
into the darkest places that exist in humanity and it is no accident that when
we make the journey we find ourselves in places where doctors and scientists
work together as they did in Nazi Germany. This subject takes us to the bottom
cellars of hell, into the deepest and darkest dungeon, into a place and into a
type of person that defiles the very nature of beauty, love, a place where all
human heart is lost. The Nazi doctors offer us a view of even greater monsters
that have remained invisible, dressed as they are eternally in three-piece
suits. There is a direct line of continuity that can be traced between a group
of men and companies that arose to the heights of industrial power years before
Hitler, men and companies who existed and supported the rise of Nazi Germany,
and who continued on to the present day in comfortable corporate luxury and
power. (The personnel, infrastructure and technology of companies like Bayer,
for example, have flowed on continuously through 3 incarnations of corporate
name and structure.) The greatest criminals in the history of the world actually
were not these Nazi doctors; they were and still are the people who populate the
top hierarchies of the giant pharmaceutical and chemical companies of the world
and the men and woman who work for them shuffling back and forth between these
companies and the CDC and FDA in the United States. Yet most of these men, like
many before them, will plead complete ignorance to all harm that they are doing.

       [iii] Imagination is the level of awareness, which is directly involved in
how we "see" things. When we "see" or imagine ourselves a certain way (or thing)
we lock ourselves into the parameters of what we see. Thus it becomes difficult
to "see" ourselves (or certain things) any other way than the way we see. It is
exactly our "fixed images" of medicine that lead to the fixed approaches and
ways of rigid thinking and practice that are literally killing millions of
people each year. Medical practice and especially the medical authorities are
sitting in their seats of power with very tightly controlled self-images (egos),
unassailable like a castle with all the parapets bristling with cannons, waiting
to be defensively aggressive when anyone challenges the status quo.

       [iv]
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/02/12/nmmr12.xml&s


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

No idea why it says Spam!

Thank you for this information. My ex-husband has Parkinson's. As
he is no longer mine to influence, I'm not sure how I'll be able
to get this information to him. I am on good terms with him and
his wife, but am not sure how to approach this. They both stick
strictly to what the doctor tells them and dutifully take the
drugs he gives.

Any ideas on stealth tactics?

Jill
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    Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 20:55:07 EST
    From: surpriseshan2@...
Subject: Re: Re: *** SPAM *** Digest Number 616

            Hello Jill;
        Mark will probably reply to this also if  he hasn't
already. I get the
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The above site has lots of good info including how to use the
magnesium
chloride 'oil' as well as any 'warnings' that may (or may not)
apply to you. But
personally, I always like to know the side-effects of things I am
using.
       He also set up a yahoo group for those whom are using the
magnesium as
well as those whom would like to ask questions of those whom are
using it or
just want more info at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MagnesiumForLife/
              Many blessings
                   Shan
PS Why does the Subject line say "SPAM"?

> Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:58:03 -0000
>   From: "Jill Bray" <jill@...>
> Subject: Re: *** SPAM *** Digest Number 616
>
>
> Please can you tell me if the magnesium oil referred to below
> is
> available in the UK?
>
> Jill
>
> >  Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 06:56:43 -0300
> >  From: "Mark Sircus Ac., OMD" <director@...>
> >Subject: IMVA - Corrections to Magnesium/Calcium and
> >Parkinson's Disease Testimonial
> >   Mark Sircus Ac., OMD
> >   Parkinson's Disease
> I have completed my first day of magnesium oil therapy on
> William who has had Parkinson's for over 20 years...
>
> I am glad that I ordered a gallon of the magnesium oil. I
> figure
> that it may take a gallon to see any meaningful results. After
> 3
> + weeks his speech is still much improved. It seems to be
> stable
> now. He couldn't give any lectures at Harvard, but he can make
> himself understood as to what he needs or wants. As I said
> prior
> to the magnesium treatment he couldn't speak well enough to
> communicate anything.
>
>
>   Nancy English Vinal





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Hello Jill;
        Mark will probably reply to this also if  he hasn't already. I get the
magnesium chloride oil from Global Light Network at
http://www.globallight.biz/   I live in Canada.
        Their international distributors are at:
http://www.globallight.net/international-distributors_p6.html
UK: Resonance Distribution Company
website: www.resonance-health.biz
email: customercare@...
Phone: 180 384 0008
    You can also contact them for any info etc at
Contact Us
David Dartez, CEO
Global Light Network
17460 IH 35 N
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888-236-2108
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GLN@...
Business hours are M-F 9am through 6pm Central Standard Time.
For International Calls 1-210-651-0505
     Dr Mark Sircus also has a website for magnesium chloride information at:
  http://www.magnesiumforlife.com/
The above site has lots of good info including how to use the magnesium
chloride 'oil' as well as any 'warnings' that may (or may not) apply to you. But
personally, I always like to know the side-effects of things I am using.
       He also set up a yahoo group for those whom are using the magnesium as
well as those whom would like to ask questions of those whom are using it or
just want more info at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MagnesiumForLife/
              Many blessings
                   Shan
PS Why does the Subject line say "SPAM"?

> Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:58:03 -0000
>   From: "Jill Bray" <jill@...>
> Subject: Re: *** SPAM *** Digest Number 616
>
>
> Please can you tell me if the magnesium oil referred to below is
> available in the UK?
>
> Jill
>
> >  Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 06:56:43 -0300
> >  From: "Mark Sircus Ac., OMD" <director@...>
> >Subject: IMVA - Corrections to Magnesium/Calcium and
> >Parkinson's Disease Testimonial
> >   Mark Sircus Ac., OMD
> >   Parkinson's Disease
> I have completed my first day of magnesium oil therapy on
> William who has had Parkinson's for over 20 years...
>
> I am glad that I ordered a gallon of the magnesium oil. I figure
> that it may take a gallon to see any meaningful results. After 3
> + weeks his speech is still much improved. It seems to be stable
> now. He couldn't give any lectures at Harvard, but he can make
> himself understood as to what he needs or wants. As I said prior
> to the magnesium treatment he couldn't speak well enough to
> communicate anything.
>
>
>   Nancy English Vinal





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Please can you tell me if the magnesium oil referred to below is
available in the UK?

Jill

>   Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 06:56:43 -0300
>   From: "Mark Sircus Ac., OMD" <director@...>
> Subject: IMVA - Corrections to Magnesium/Calcium and
> Parkinson's Disease Testimonial
>      Mark Sircus Ac., OMD
>      Parkinson's Disease
  I have completed my first day of magnesium oil therapy on
William who has had Parkinson's for over 20 years...

  I am glad that I ordered a gallon of the magnesium oil. I figure
that it may take a gallon to see any meaningful results. After 3
+ weeks his speech is still much improved. It seems to be stable
now. He couldn't give any lectures at Harvard, but he can make
himself understood as to what he needs or wants. As I said prior
to the magnesium treatment he couldn't speak well enough to
communicate anything.


    Nancy English Vinal

Personally, I would thihk this would be quite helpful to those whom
read the stories as well as those whom contribute. I believe in 'what goes
around, etc " too.
              Blessings
                   Shan


I'm looking for people willing to periodically recount their
experiences in a ongoing series of blogs on the CFS Phoenix website.
You would committ to regularly give an account of what your life with
CFS is like.  How often you would do this would be up to you; every
couple of days, once a week, once every two weeks, something like
that.  You dont have to state what that would be - just commit to
doing it with  some regularity over time.  YOu would send your blog to
me via e-mail and I'll post it on the CFS Phoenix website.
  
  I think its better to commit to something rather than leave completely
open ended. 
  
  This would help CFS patient know that they are not alone and give
others some idea of  what life with CFS. Not long before Jason died he wrote
"Without the net, i do not know what i would do. I would be all alone.� 
I encourage you to help somebody else with CFS by portraying bits of your
life  with CFS.
  
  This will  also help those without CFS to understand it. Obviously very
very few people  without CFS have any idea of what life with CFS is like.
Remember what your life was like before CFS and try to fathom that you would
be experiencing what you are now; its virtually impossible to do. That is the

bridge that needs to gapped between people with  CFS and people without it. 
  
You can reach me at:
phoenixcfs@...
or
cortttt@...

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Dear IMVA,



            First my apologies for the omission of the percentage in the
following paragraph. Many years ago Dr. Barnett conducted tests on 5,000 people
and found about 60 % of them deficient in magnesium. Today we find the
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) placing that number officially at
68%.



            This is important information that shows two important things. First
that it has been known by some for decades that the majority of the American
population is magnesium deficient and secondly that the trend is worsening. Also
when we look at numbers like this we have to realize that official statements
like this are built around standards like the RDA which in most likelihood are
gross underestimates. Thus you do hear some people estimating that over 90
percent of the public is magnesium deficient. Health and medical authorities
seemed to have abandoned sound medical reason on this one choosing instead to
obsess with everything and anything (a long list of drugs and dietary
recommendations) that only make matters worse. My mentor Christopher Hills said
to me many years ago that the spiritual world was 180 degrees, meaning totally
upside down to the regular world. So he would joke with us to just do everything
opposite to everyone else and we would be fine. Seems to me that this fits in
perfectly in the world of medicine in general and specifically in regards to the
recent official calcium recommendations that have come through the field of
Pediatrics and the dearth of information from the American Diabetic Association
on magnesium.



            This coming week you will see a series of essays on magnesium. I
would like to take the opportunity here though to insert a testimonial from
someone I have been working with closely. It's from a woman whose husband has a
severe case of Parkinson's Disease. Also the first testimonials are starting to
come in from the autism and ADHD areas that show how incredibly beneficial
transdermal magnesium chloride therapy  can be for neurological conditions.



            Please note we are at the very beginning of a great change in the
wind in the world of medicine and healthcare. The testimony below should give
you a taste of what I am talking about. Through the next year the IMVA will
gather reports from people all over the world who are just now beginning their
therapy with magnesium chloride applied transdermally.



       Mark Sircus Ac., OMD
       Director International Medical Veritas Association
       http://www.MagnesiumForLife.com
       http://www.imva.info
       http://www.detoxchelationclinic.com
       http://www.worldpsychology.net
       +55-83-3252-2195
       www.skype.com ID: marksircus



       IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER: The communication in this email is intended for
informational purposes only. Nothing in this email is intended to be a
substitute for professional medical advice.


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       Parkinson's Disease





           I have completed my first day of magnesium oil therapy on William who
has had Parkinson's for over 20 years.  I am hoping for a revival of
functionality but not with high expectations because of the severity and
duration of his symptoms.  His condition before starting the magnesium oil was:
He couldn't talk at all. Could not articulate what-so-ever! He was barely
functional and did nothing voluntarily. No exercise and no attempt to stop
drooling. The drooling was getting so bad and so constant that I was beginning
to isolate him to his bedroom in his big recliner because the carpets are new
here and the enzymes of the saliva stain permanently. And it appeared to be
getting worse by the week. That's how he was. He also had started getting
violent with me. If I pushed him too hard he would fly into a rage and hit me
with whatever he could lay his hands on.

            I applied the magnesium oil twice yesterday and he woke this morning
and washed his own face, cleaned his teeth and put on his robe by himself -
without being told to do these things. This is unheard of and hasn't happened
for 2 years. What is more, he is not drooling. The drooling has been massive and
absolutely uncontrollable for about a year. His swallowing reflex is simply
going.  He has had his nutritional drink, his coffee, his brain formula, fresh
veggies, and scrambled eggs and hasn't drooled once. So, my hope is high. This
is the best I've seen for a very long time.



            After only three days interestingly his speech as been much better
over all. I am applying it faithfully 3 times a day all over him. I will just
keep up the application and let time do the explaining. I am very encouraged by
the improvement in speech. I honestly did not expect to see any results. His
eyes are brighter, the concentration is longer and better and the speech is much
improved. By no means has he become a "toastmaster" but at least he can string 2
or 3 words together now and does not freeze up completely.



             I am spraying him 3 to 4 times a day on his back, belly, inner
thighs, inner arms, chest and soles of his feet primarily. I put an ounce in his
bath and am spraying about 50 sprays each time I anoint him.

            He thrashed me over the head with a plastic ladle one day so quickly
that he got in 6 or 7 good thwacks before I could snatch it away from him. But
since starting the magnesium oil, his demeanor has improved immensely. No more
surly ugly looks, no more stubborn refusals to swallow or do something that I
ask him to do. Great improvement and best of all he is now able to communicate
so he can tell me what he wants and needs.



            I am glad that I ordered a gallon of the magnesium oil. I figure that
it may take a gallon to see any meaningful results. After 3 + weeks his speech
is still much improved. It seems to be stable now. He couldn't give any lectures
at Harvard, but he can make himself understood as to what he needs or wants. As
I said prior to the magnesium treatment he couldn't speak well enough to
communicate anything.

                                                                                                                                       
Nancy English Vinal


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Magnesium and Calcium
       International Medical Veritas Association

       Calcium and magnesium are opposites in their effects
       on our body structure. As a general rule, the more
        rigid and inflexible our body structure is, the
        less calcium and the more magnesium we need.



            Dr. Garry Gordon wrote, "If you have compromised cell membranes or
low ATP production for any reason, then the cell has trouble maintaining the
normal gradient. This is because the usual gradient is 10,000 times more calcium
outside of cells than inside; when this is compromised you will have increased
intracellular calcium, which seems to always happen at the time of death.
Whenever intracellular calcium is elevated, you have a relative deficiency of
magnesium, so whenever anyone is seriously ill, acute or chronic, part of your
plan must be to restore magnesium, which is poorly absorbed through oral means."



       The ratio of calcium to magnesium is vital for
       cell membranes and the Blood Brain Barrier.



            Countries with the highest calcium to magnesium ratios (high calcium
and low magnesium levels) in soil and water have the highest incidence of
cardiovascular disease. At the top of the list is Australia. In contrast, in
Japan with its low cardiac death rate, the daily magnesium intake was cited as
high as 560 milligrams.



           Adequate levels of magnesium are essential for the heart muscle. Those
who die from heart attacks have very low magnesium but high calcium levels in
their heart muscles. Patients with coronary heart disease who have been treated
with large amounts of magnesium survived better than those with other drug
treatments. Magnesium dilates the arteries of the heart and lowers cholesterol
and fat levels.



       Magnesium taken in proper dosages can
       solve the problem of calcium deficiency.
                                                                 Dr. Nan Kathryn
Fuchs

                                                                                    
Author of The Nutrition Detective

            It is magnesium that controls the fate of potassium and calcium in
the body. If magnesium is insufficient potassium and calcium will be lost in the
urine and calcium will be deposited in the soft tissues (kidneys, arteries,
joints, brain, etc.). Magnesium and calcium have competing effects on many of
the body's chemical pathways.

       Calcium causes muscles to contract,
       while magnesium helps them relax.

            Magnesium and calcium are paired minerals. Several studies have
reported that increasing calcium in the diet significantly reduces the
absorption of magnesium. Calcium intakes above 2.6 grams per day may reduce the
uptake and utilization of magnesium by the body thus increasing magnesium
requirements. So much stress is placed on the importance of calcium by the dairy
industry that we may, in fact, be harming magnesium absorption.

       Up to 30% of the energy of cells is
        used to pump calcium out of the cells.

            A healthy cell has high magnesium and low calcium levels. The higher
the calcium level and the lower the magnesium level in the extra-cellular fluid,
the harder is it for cells to pump the calcium out. The result is that with low
magnesium levels the mitochondria gradually calcify and energy production
decreases. Our biochemical age could theoretically be determined by the ratio of
magnesium to calcium within our cells.



       Magnesium is the mineral of rejuvenation and prevents the
       calcification of our organs and tissues that is characteristic
       of the old-age related degeneration of our body.

           Without sufficient magnesium, calcium can collect in the soft tissues
and cause arthritis. Not only does calcium collect in the soft tissues of
arthritics, it is poorly, if at all, absorbed into their blood and bones. Some
researchers estimate that the American ratio of calcium to magnesium is actually
approaching 6:1, while the recommendation for healthy living is actually 2:1.But
even 2 parts of calcium to 1 part of magnesium is probably too high, since
current research on the Paleolithic or caveman diets show that the ratio they
used to eat was 1:1.[1]

       A diet high in dairy and low in whole grains can lead
       to excess calcium in the tissues and a magnesium deficiency.[2]
                                                                              Dr.
Nan Kathryn Fuch

           According to Dr P Kaye, Emergency Department, Bristol Royal Infirmary,
UK, "Magnesium acts as a smooth muscle relaxant by altering extracellular
calcium influx and intracellular phosphorylation reactions. It may also
attenuate the neutrophilic burst associated with inflammatory
bronchoconstriction by attenuating mast cell degranulation. The principal
trigger for this degranulation is a rise in intracellular calcium, which is
antagonised by magnesium. It has been shown experimentally to augment the
bronchodilatory effect of salbutamol and to inhibit histamine induced
bronchospasm. Magnesium should be used as a safe, easy to administer and
effective second line agent in acute severe asthma."[3]



            Medical authorities claim that the widespread incidence of
osteoporosis and tooth decay in western countries can be prevented with a high
calcium intake. However Asian and African populations with a low intake (about
300 mg) of calcium daily have very little osteoporosis. Bantu women with an
intake of 200 to 300 mg of calcium daily have the lowest incidence of
osteoporosis in the world.[4] In western countries with a high intake of dairy
products the average calcium intake is about 1000 mg. With a low magnesium
intake, calcium moves out of the bones to increase tissue levels, while a high
magnesium intake causes calcium to move from the tissues into the bones. Thus
high magnesium levels leads to bone mineralization.

            Dr. Karen Kubena, associate professor of nutrition at Texas A & M
University indicates that even if you monitor your magnesium level like a
maniac, you're still at risk for migraines if your calcium level is out of
whack. It seems that higher than normal blood levels of calcium cause the body
to excrete the excess calcium, which in turn triggers a loss of magnesium.
"Let's say you have just enough magnesium and too much calcium in your blood. If
calcium is excreted, the magnesium goes with it. All of a sudden, you could be
low in magnesium," says Dr. Kubena.[5]

          If calcium is not taken with enough magnesium it will cause more harm
than good.  The unabsorbed calcium can lodge anywhere in the body and provoke
practically any disease.  For instances, if it lodges in your bones and joints,
it leads to some forms of arthritis; if it lodges in you heart, it leads to
arterial lesions; it provokes respiratory problems if it lodges in your lungs,
etc.



            Despite the crucial relationship between calcium and magnesium a
recently published study announced that most U.S. children don't get enough
calcium in their diets, and pediatricians should intervene to help remedy the
problem. These guidelines were issued in Feb. 2006 by the American Academy of
Pediatrics.[6] The proportion of children who receive the recommended amounts of
calcium declines dramatically after the second year of life, reaching a nadir
during adolescence, said Dr. Nancy F. Krebs, of the University of Colorado in
Denver, who headed the academy committee that wrote the guidelines.

            Adolescent girls are faring the worst, Dr. Krebs and colleagues
reported. Only about 10% of girls ages 12 to 19 are getting the recommended
amount of calcium. For boys, the figure is about 30%, according to the
guidelines, which were published in the February issue of Pediatrics. Not a word
is mentioned about magnesium as the committee goes on to recommend increasing
calcium intake through the use of fortified foods and calcium supplements. Is a
medical crime being committed when these pediatricians fail to address the
crucial relationship between magnesium and calcium? Our affirmative answer is
sustained when reviewing the materials presented below.

            Experts say excessive calcium intake may be unwise in light of recent
studies showing that high amounts of the mineral may increase risk of prostate
cancer. "There is reasonable evidence to suggest that calcium may play an
important role in the development of prostate cancer," says Dr. Carmen
Rodriguez, senior epidemiologist in the epidemiology and surveillance research
department of the American Cancer Society (ACS). Rodriguez says that a 1998
Harvard School of Public Health study of 47,781 men found those consuming
between 1,500 and 1,999 mg of calcium per day had about double the risk of being
diagnosed with metastatic (cancer that has spread to other parts of the body)
prostate cancer as those getting 500 mg per day or less. And those taking in
2,000 mg or more had over four times the risk of developing metastatic prostate
cancer as those taking in less than 500 mg.

       The recommended daily allowance (RDA) of calcium is
        1,000 mg per day for men, and 1,500 mg for women.

           Later in 1998, Harvard researchers published a study of dairy product
intake among 526 men diagnosed with prostate cancer and 536 similar men not
diagnosed with the disease. That study found a 50% increase in prostate cancer
risk and a near doubling of risk of metastatic prostate cancer among men
consuming high amounts of dairy products, likely due, say the researchers, to
the high total amount of calcium in such a diet. The most recent Harvard study
on the topic, published in October 2001, looked at dairy product intake among
20,885 men and found men consuming the most dairy products had about 32% higher
risk of developing prostate cancer than those consuming the least.


            According to the University of Florida Shands Cancer Center a high
level of calcium in the blood, called hypercalcemia,[7] may become a medical
emergency. This disorder is most commonly caused by cancer or parathyroid
disease but underneath the primary etiology is probably magnesium deficiency.
Hypercalcemia is commonly attributed to either the cancer treatment or the
cancer itself and may make it difficult for doctors to detect hypercalcemia when
it first occurs. This disorder can be severe and difficult to manage especially
because doctors have not a clue about the underlying relationship between excess
calcium and low levels of magnesium. Severe hypercalcemia is a medical emergency
that can be avoided if magnesium levels are brought up to normal.

       Calcium competes with zinc, manganese, magnesium,
        copper and iron for absorption in the intestine and a
        high intake of one can reduce absorption of the others.

            Because of the totally distorted way medical science relates to
magnesium the medical profession makes mistakes with calcium. It's still common
to hear the assumption about calcium's ability to help prevent osteoporosis
(weakening of the bones usually associated with aging). The fact is that it's
the increasing of magnesium intake that increase bones density[8] in the elderly
and reduces the risk of osteoporosis. "Higher Magnesium intake through diet and
supplements was positively associated with total-body bone mineral density (BMD)
in older white men and women. For every 100 mg per day increase in Mg, there was
an approximate 2 per cent increase in whole-body BMD,"[9] said Dr. Kathryn
Ryder.

       Magnesium is essential for proper calcium absorption
        and is an important mineral in the bone matrix.



            "Bones average about 1 % phosphate of magnesium and. teeth about 1%
per cent phosphate of magnesium. Elephant tusks contain 2 % of phosphate of
magnesium and billiard balls made from these are almost indestructible. The
teeth of carnivorous animals contain nearly 5 % phosphate of magnesium and thus
they are able to crush and grind the bones of their prey without difficulty,"
wrote Otto Carque (1933) in Vital Facts About Foods.



            Some people, like a spokesperson for the UK-based charity, the
National Osteoporosis Society, continue to think that "magnesium deficiency is,
in fact, very rare in humans." So they cannot get it through their neural
circuits that magnesium deficiency, not calcium deficiency plays a key role in
osteoporosis. Thus it is no surprise when we find more studies suggesting that
high Ca intake had no preventive effect on alteration of bone metabolism in
magnesium deficient rats[10] and that not only severe but also moderate dietary
restriction of magnesium results in qualitative changes in bones in rats.[11]
The results from some of these studies may be surprising to some. While we have
no reason to question the importance of calcium in bone strength, we have plenty
of reason to doubt the value of consuming large amounts of calcium that are
currently being recommended for adults and young people alike.[12]

       One of the most important aspects of the disease osteoporosis has been
        almost totally overlooked. That aspect is the role played by magnesium.
                                                                                             
Dr. Lewis B. Barnett

           While most sources understand that calcium is important in the growth
and development of children, little attention is paid to the role of magnesium
or magnesium deficiency or the need to maintain the intricate balances of each
(and other nutrients as well). Back in the 1950's Dr. Barnett examined the bone
content of healthy people and compared it with the content of people suffering
from severe osteoporosis. He found there was little difference among the
calcium, phosphorus, and fluoride content of the bones of the individuals. The
magnesium content in the bones of the healthy people, however, was 1.26 %. That
of the osteoporosis victims was .62 %. Many years ago Dr. Barnett conducted
tests on 5,000 people and found about % of them deficient in magnesium. Today we
find the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) placing that number
officially at 66 %. How is it that so many in the medical profession can ignore
this clinical reality and go on pretending that magnesium deficiency in the
general population is rare?



       Magnesium status is important for regulation of calcium
       balance through parathyroid hormone-mediated reactions.[13]



            The current focus on increased need for calcium in a magnesium
deficient population can easily push those already receiving adequate amounts of
calcium in their daily diets over the edge to reaching too high levels, thus
causing depletion of magnesium and other problems. The American Diabetes
Association in their 2006 guidelines for diabetes and pre diabetes, when making
treatment and nutritional recommendations, join the Pediatricians and do not
recommend magnesium be addressed in any significant way despite the increasing
evidence over the years that magnesium is even more deficient in diabetics and
dietary recommendations are not combating the issue. This medical review is
important exactly because large segments of the medical establishment are
choosing ignorance in relationship to magnesium and calcium thus misleading the
public and leading them to the altar of iatrogenic disease, a place where
billions of dollars are made.



            Despite the fact that serum levels of magnesium are not the best
indicator of adequate magnesium levels some studies have shown that when
magnesium deficiency was induced in humans, the earliest sign was decreased
serum magnesium levels (hypomagnesemia). Over time serum calcium levels also
began to decrease (hypocalcemia) despite adequate dietary calcium. Hypocalcemia
persisted despite increased parathyroid hormone (PTH) secretion. Usually,
increased PTH secretion quickly results in the mobilization of calcium from bone
and normalization of blood calcium levels. As the magnesium depletion
progressed, PTH secretion diminished to low levels. Along with hypomagnesemia,
signs of severe magnesium deficiency included hypocalcemia, low serum potassium
levels (hypokalemia), retention of sodium, low circulating levels of PTH,
neurological and muscular symptoms (tremor, muscle spasms, tetany), loss of
appetite, nausea, vomiting, and personality changes.[14]  Hypercalcemia can
cause magnesium deficiency and wasting.[15]



            It is medical wisdom that tells us that magnesium is actually the key
to the body's proper assimilation and use of calcium, as well as other important
nutrients. If we consume too much calcium, without sufficient magnesium, the
excess calcium is not utilized correctly and may actually become toxic, causing
painful conditions in the body. Hypocalcemia is a prominent manifestation of
magnesium deficiency in humans (Rude et al., 1976). Even mild degrees of
magnesium depletion significantly decreases the serum calcium concentration
(Fatemi et al., 1991).



            The adverse effects of excessive calcium intake may include high
blood calcium levels, kidney stone formation and kidney complications.[16] 
Elevated calcium levels are also associated with arthritic/joint and vascular
degeneration, calcification of soft tissue, hypertension and stroke, and
increase in VLDL triglycerides, gastrointestinal disturbances, mood and
depressive disorders, chronic fatigue, and general mineral imbalances including
magnesium, zinc, iron and phosphorus.  High calcium levels interfere with
Vitamin D and subsequently inhibit the vitamin's cancer protective effect unless
extra amounts of Vitamin D are supplemented.[17]



            William R. Quesnell, author of 'Minerals: The Essential Link to
Health, said, "Most people have come to believe nutrition is divisible, and that
a single substance will maintain vibrant health. The touting of calcium for the
degenerative disease osteoporosis provides an excellent example. Every day the
media, acting as proxy for the milk lobby, sells calcium as a magic bullet. Has
it worked? Definitely for sales of milk; but for American health it has been a
disaster. When you load up your system with excess calcium, you shut down
magnesium's ability to activate thyrocalcitonin, a hormone that under normal
circumstances would send calcium to your bones."


           When it comes to magnesium and calcium neither can be divided from the
other. One is not divisible from the other in terms of overall effect. They are
paired minerals yet it is magnesium that holds the overall key for their paired
function. In truth magnesium holds the key to life. It is, as the Chinese say,
the most beautiful of all metals. It is a nutritional element that can and is
used as a medicine to great effect by all who know of its beauty and power.



            Special Note: The International Medical Veritas Association is
promoting quality organic food sources of magnesium, spirulina, oral magnesium
in the form of natural chelation products, transdermal magnesium and other
related sea water healing agents. We also support Paul Mason, the original
magnesium librarian, who has worked hard to have the government put magnesium in
public drinking water supplies.



       Mark Sircus Ac., OMD
       Director International Medical Veritas Association
       http://www.MagnesiumForLife.com
       http://www.imva.info
       http://www.detoxchelationclinic.com
       http://www.worldpsychology.net
       +55-83-3252-2195
       www.skype.com ID: marksircus

       IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER: The communication in this email is intended for
informational purposes only. Nothing in this email is intended to be a
substitute for professional medical advice.




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       [1] Eades M, Eades A, The Protein Power Lifeplan, Warner Books, New York,
1999

       [2] The source of menstrual cramps may come from eating too much cheese,
yogurt, ice cream or milk, combined with insufficient whole grains and beans. Or
it could come from taking too much calcium without enough magnesium. Modifying
diet and increasing magnesium supplementation may allow menstrual cramps to
disappear.

       [3] Kaye, P. O'Sullivan, I.  The role of magnesium in the emergency
department. Emergency Department, Bristol Royal Infirmary, Bristol, UK Emerg Med
J 2002; 19:288-291

       [4] http://list.weim.net/pipermail/holisticweim/2001-July/001023.html

       [5] http://www.mgwater.com/prev1801.shtml

       [6] Pediatricians Say That Most US Kids Don't Get Enough Calcium
http://www.medpagetoday.com/Pediatrics/GeneralPediatrics/dh/2624

       [7] Signs and symptoms of hypercalcemia may include:

             . Nausea
            . Fatigue

             . Vomiting
            . Lethargy

             . Stomach Pain
            . Moodiness

             . Constipation
            . Irritability

             . Anorexia
            . Confusion

             . Excessive thirst
            . Extreme muscle weakness

             . Dry mouth or throat
            . Irregular heart beat

             . Frequent Urination
            . Coma




       [8] Stendig-Lindberg G. Tepper R. Leichter I. Trabecular bone density in a
two year controlled trial of peroral magnesium in osteoporosis. Department of
Physiology and Pharmacology, Sackler Faculty of Medicine, Tel Aviv University,
Israel. Manges Res. 1993 Jun;6(2):155-63.

       [9] Journal of the American Geriatric Society (November, Vol 53, No 11, pp
1875-1880).

       [10] We examined the effects of high calcium (Ca) intake on bone
metabolism in magnesium (Mg)-deficient rats. Male Wistar rats were divided into
three groups, with each group having a similar mean body weight, and fed a
control diet (control group), a Mg-deficient diet (Mg-deficient group) or a
Mg-deficient Ca-supplemented diet (Mg-deficient Ca-supplemented group) for 14 d.
Femoral Ca content was significantly lower in the Mg-deficient Ca-supplemented
group than in the control group and Mg-deficient group. Femoral Mg content was
significantly lower in the Mg-deficient group and Mg-deficient Ca-supplemented
group than in the control group. Furthermore, femoral Mg content was
significantly lower in the Mg-deficient Ca-supplemented group than in the
Mg-deficient group. Serum osteocalcin levels (a biochemical marker of bone
formation) were significantly lower in the two Mg-deficient groups than in the
control group. As a biochemical marker of bone resorption, urinary
deoxypyridinoline excretion was significantly higher in the Mg-deficient
Ca-supplemented group than in the control group and Mg-deficient group. The
results in the present study suggest that high Ca intake had no preventive
effect on alteration of bone metabolism in Mg-deficient rats. Effects of high
calcium intake on bone metabolism in magnesium-deficient rats.Magnes Res. 2005
Jun;18(2):97-102.

      
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra\
ct&list_uids=16100847&itool=iconabstr&query_hl=10&itool=pubmed_docsum

       [11] Br J Nutr. The effect of moderately and severely restricted dietary
magnesium intakes on bone composition and bone metabolism in the rat.1999
Jul;82(1):63-71.  
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra\
ct&list_uids=10655958&query_hl=12&itool=pubmed_docsum

       [12]  In particular, these studies suggest that high calcium intake
doesn't actually appear to lower a person's risk for osteoporosis. For example,
in the large Harvard studies of male health professionals and female nurses,
individuals who drank one glass of milk (or less) per week were at no greater
risk of breaking a hip or forearm than were those who drank two or more glasses
per week. Other studies have found similar results.  Additional evidence also
supports the idea that American adults may not need as much calcium as is
currently recommended. For example, in countries such as India, Japan, and Peru
where average daily calcium intake is as low as 300 mg/day (less than a third of
the US recommendation for adults, ages 19-50), the incidence of bone fractures
is quite low. Of course, these countries differ in other important bone-health
factors as well - such as level of physical activity and amount of sunlight -
which could account for their low fracture rates. Calcium in Milk, Harvard
School of Public Health;
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/calcium.html

       [13] North Western University; Nutrition Fact Sheet: 
http://www.feinberg.northwestern.edu/nutrition/factsheets/magnesium.html

       [14] Shils ME. Magnesium. In: Shils M, Olson JA, Shike M, Ross AC, eds.
Nutrition in Health and Disease. 9th ed. Baltimore: Williams & Wilkins;
1999:169-192.

       [15] Other causes of renal magnesium wasting include aldosterone excess,
most likely through chronic volume expansion, causing increased magnesium
excretion; hypercalcemia due to increased competition for reabsorption with
magnesium; Hypercalcemia inhibits magnesium reabsorption, probably through
competition for passive transport through the renal system. Hypomagnesemia;
Mahendra Agraharkar, MD,FACP Updated: June 20, 2002 
http://www.emedicine.com/med/topic3382.htm

       [16] New York State Department of Health; 
http://www.health.state.ny.us/diseases/conditions/osteoporosis/qanda.htm

       [17] Accu-Cell Nutrition; Calcium and Magnesium
http://www.acu-cell.com/acn.html




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AOL just proposed what amounts to an "email tax."

Hmm.  Do they do their job in the first place?  I haven't been able to mail
aol friends for months, some internet squabble.  AOL tells my friends there
is no problem, aapt says they have banned aapt mail because there was a
virus-laden hoax email supposedly from aapt doing the rounds.  Anyone could
see it wasn't really from aapt, but we are already paying plenty for
nothing, anyway.  My husband just said, 95% of everything is rubbish, and on
the internet it is 98%.  Nice to find the places where you get good info!
R

Please repost.

AOL just proposed what amounts to an "email tax."  AOL says charging a fee
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Anna,

   I'm glad to hear that you are stopping for a while.  I'll email you
the information and after you have rested for a couple weeks you may
resume.  That will give you a chance to locate some sources that will
deliver to your location.

   I think that one mistake that is being made by almost everyone that
is promoting the use of FIR sauna, is the emphasis on detoxification.
  While certainly detoxing is beneficial, that is not the goal for FIR
sauna use, IMO.  At least not for people that are severely ill.  It's
about increasing metabolism.

   When a person thinks of detoxing they think of sweating.  And then
they logically think that more sweating must be better because that
must be an indication of greater detoxing.  Which must be a good thing?

   It is important to remember that with all that sweating/detoxing,
the body is losing a lot of minerals and body fluids.  And when
certain minerals are lost, the ability to rehydrate is impaired.
Through over use of FIR sauna, some people can exacerbate their health
condition.  There have been a couple people to experience this.  Learn
from them.

   Magnesium is one thing that I've not found a good product to suggest
yet.  In the mean time, and even after I suggest a product as a good
source, include lots of green leafy vegetables into your diet.

All the best,
Jim

--- In CFS-FMS_FIRST-Aid@yahoogroups.com, anna glynn <annaglynn22@...>
wrote:
>
> i am halting any sauna treatments for now
> i feel i am not informed enough about how to do it
> correctly
>
> jim let me know whatever information you get together
> regareding how to follow the protocol correctly
>
> i feel perhaps the magnesium i was taking was not good
> enough
> and also i had a big increase in debilating fatigue
> since i started the sauna
> i understand from the japanese results that the
> patients had a worsening of symptoms before any
> improvements
> but i am feeling a little overwhelmed and concerned
> that i may be doing something wrong.
>
> i will wait for the guidance to come from you jim
>
>
>
> --- thmicom <clements@...> wrote:
>
> >
> > We'll I've finally gotten the suggestions of the
> > program outlined.
> > I'll email it to a couple of people that have
> > requested it for
> > their review and comments.  I still have some of the
> > supporting
> > information to add to the article.  But the basics
> > of the program are
> > written down.
> >
> > The information is not to be shared, not even in
> > this forum.  Those
> > that want it will ask for it.  And they will receive
> > it with the
> > stipulation that they not share it.
> >
> > Anyone that receives the program information and
> > decides to follow it,
> > I would request that you join another forum that I
> > will set up for the
> > purpose of discussing the program.  I'll also try to
> > get something
> > online in which a person can record their progress.
> >
> > The only way that this program will be proven is by
> > those willing to
> > prove it for themselves.  When enough people have
> > reported beneficial
> > results, then maybe others will take notice.
> >
> > All the best,
> > Jim
> >
> >
> > --- In CFS-FMS_FIRST-Aid@yahoogroups.com, "sce2255"
> > <sce2255@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Jim,
> > >
> > > i fully understand your desire for feedback and a
> > network of helping
> > > with all your work. please send me the information
> > about the program. i
> > > will treat it with all the respect that your work
> > and concern merit.
> > >
> > > thank you so much,
> > >
> > > sara
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Hi Anna,

i have severe chemical sensitivities and some FM etc...did one sauna for 11
minutes last week at only 110 degrees. it really wiped me out and wrecked me for
days. i have been told that at this point i do not have the energy (chi) to do
this kind of thing. sauna pulls toxins out of tissues and puts them into your
bloodstream where they must be handled by excretory organs and have a chance to
get to places like the brain and other glands...and i was told that there are
easier ways (on my body) to pull mercury and etc out...using nutrients, herbs
etc.

i had the amalgams all removed from my mouth in the fall. since then i have been
somewhat sicker as this, too, probably mobilized the mercury etc that was
sitting pretty tight before that. i have been told that the body will do detox
by itself, too, just slower. on this i place i alot of hope. i will continue to
be looking at various ways to detox and as i get better i will do more of them.

it is a very hard road to follow. hard to be patient and hard to accept being
ill, and wait for things to progress even if not according to my own schedule.

best,
sara
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: anna glynn
   To: CFS-FMS_FIRST-Aid@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 11:49 AM
   Subject: Re: [CFS-FMS_FIRST-Aid] Re: healing protocol


   i am halting any sauna treatments for now
   i feel i am not informed enough about how to do it
   correctly

   jim let me know whatever information you get together
   regareding how to follow the protocol correctly

   i feel perhaps the magnesium i was taking was not good
   enough
   and also i had a big increase in debilating fatigue
   since i started the sauna
   i understand from the japanese results that the
   patients had a worsening of symptoms before any
   improvements
   but i am feeling a little overwhelmed and concerned
   that i may be doing something wrong.

   i will wait for the guidance to come from you jim



   --- thmicom <clements@...> wrote:

   >
   > We'll I've finally gotten the suggestions of the
   > program outlined.
   > I'll email it to a couple of people that have
   > requested it for
   > their review and comments.  I still have some of the
   > supporting
   > information to add to the article.  But the basics
   > of the program are
   > written down.
   >
   > The information is not to be shared, not even in
   > this forum.  Those
   > that want it will ask for it.  And they will receive
   > it with the
   > stipulation that they not share it.
   >
   > Anyone that receives the program information and
   > decides to follow it,
   > I would request that you join another forum that I
   > will set up for the
   > purpose of discussing the program.  I'll also try to
   > get something
   > online in which a person can record their progress.
   >
   > The only way that this program will be proven is by
   > those willing to
   > prove it for themselves.  When enough people have
   > reported beneficial
   > results, then maybe others will take notice.
   >
   > All the best,
   > Jim
   >
   >
   > --- In CFS-FMS_FIRST-Aid@yahoogroups.com, "sce2255"
   > <sce2255@...> wrote:
   > >
   > > Dear Jim,
   > >
   > > i fully understand your desire for feedback and a
   > network of helping
   > > with all your work. please send me the information
   > about the program. i
   > > will treat it with all the respect that your work
   > and concern merit.
   > >
   > > thank you so much,
   > >
   > > sara
   > >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   > Yahoo! Groups Links
   >
   >
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   >
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I would like this latest information and agree to what you say below.

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i am halting any sauna treatments for now
i feel i am not informed enough about how to do it
correctly

jim let me know whatever information you get together
regareding how to follow the protocol correctly

i feel perhaps the magnesium i was taking was not good
enough
and also i had a big increase in debilating fatigue
since i started the sauna
i understand from the japanese results that the
patients had a worsening of symptoms before any
improvements
but i am feeling a little overwhelmed and concerned
that i may be doing something wrong.

i will wait for the guidance to come from you jim



--- thmicom <clements@...> wrote:

>
> We'll I've finally gotten the suggestions of the
> program outlined.
> I'll email it to a couple of people that have
> requested it for
> their review and comments.  I still have some of the
> supporting
> information to add to the article.  But the basics
> of the program are
> written down.
>
> The information is not to be shared, not even in
> this forum.  Those
> that want it will ask for it.  And they will receive
> it with the
> stipulation that they not share it.
>
> Anyone that receives the program information and
> decides to follow it,
> I would request that you join another forum that I
> will set up for the
> purpose of discussing the program.  I'll also try to
> get something
> online in which a person can record their progress.
>
> The only way that this program will be proven is by
> those willing to
> prove it for themselves.  When enough people have
> reported beneficial
> results, then maybe others will take notice.
>
> All the best,
> Jim
>
>
> --- In CFS-FMS_FIRST-Aid@yahoogroups.com, "sce2255"
> <sce2255@...> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Jim,
> >
> > i fully understand your desire for feedback and a
> network of helping
> > with all your work. please send me the information
> about the program. i
> > will treat it with all the respect that your work
> and concern merit.
> >
> > thank you so much,
> >
> > sara
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>     CFS-FMS_FIRST-Aid-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>
>
>
>




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We'll I've finally gotten the suggestions of the program outlined.
I'll email it to a couple of people that have requested it for
their review and comments.  I still have some of the supporting
information to add to the article.  But the basics of the program are
written down.

The information is not to be shared, not even in this forum.  Those
that want it will ask for it.  And they will receive it with the
stipulation that they not share it.

Anyone that receives the program information and decides to follow it,
I would request that you join another forum that I will set up for the
purpose of discussing the program.  I'll also try to get something
online in which a person can record their progress.

The only way that this program will be proven is by those willing to
prove it for themselves.  When enough people have reported beneficial
results, then maybe others will take notice.

All the best,
Jim


--- In CFS-FMS_FIRST-Aid@yahoogroups.com, "sce2255" <sce2255@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Jim,
>
> i fully understand your desire for feedback and a network of helping
> with all your work. please send me the information about the program. i
> will treat it with all the respect that your work and concern merit.
>
> thank you so much,
>
> sara
>

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Dear Jim,

i fully understand your desire for feedback and a network of helping
with all your work. please send me the information about the program. i
will treat it with all the respect that your work and concern merit.

thank you so much,

sara

Hi Sara,

   The program information will be freely available to all that ask for it.

   I will make a couple requests of those that receive the information.
  That they not post the information in other forums or pass it along
to others.  If anyone wants to know, direct them to this forum or
myself for details.  They'll get it the same way everyone else does,
they'll ask for it.

   If a person chooses to follow this program I ask that they report
their progress regularly.  I'll set up another forum for those that
want to discuss specifics with others following the program.

   If a person follows this wellness program and they see good results
reversing symptoms of CFS/FMS I ask that they share their success in
other forums.  I'm tired of helping people get better and then have
them disappear.  If I help someone, that person is obligated to help
another learn about this program.  If a person see bad results I want
the person to share detailed information on exactly what they did so
that others may be warned.  Not to scare people from trying the
program but be a voice of warning that there may be upper limits not
to exceed.

   I've lost about $70K in this venture, $15K of which is still on
credit card debt.  I'm not charging anyone for the information, but
I'm not giving it up in an open forum.  Ask and ye shall receive.

All the best,
Jim


--- In CFS-FMS_FIRST-Aid@yahoogroups.com, "sara" <sce2255@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> when you do complete that page that Anna asked about, would you
please post the link here as well? i am a newcomer and am sort of lost
by all this talk.
>
> thanks.
> sara

Hi Jim,

when you do complete that page that Anna asked about, would you please post the
link here as well? i am a newcomer and am sort of lost by all this talk.

thanks.
sara
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: thmicom
   To: CFS-FMS_FIRST-Aid@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 11:56 AM
   Subject: [CFS-FMS_FIRST-Aid] Re: news from ireland



   Hi Anna,

     I'll try to complete the webpage which outlines the suggested
   approach to the wellness program.  There are a couple changes that are
   not yet mentioned on the website.  When I've got it done I'll email
   you the link.

     You may have to do some sluething to find sources for some of the
   items that are suggested.  I'm not sure it the companies that I get
   them from ship outside the USA.


   All the best,
   Jim


   --- In CFS-FMS_FIRST-Aid@yahoogroups.com, anna glynn
   <annaglynn22@y...> wrote:
   >
   >
   > jim
   > can you send me a link to the website
   > with details of the entire protocol
   > i cant seem to find the link
   > i tried
   > temple health
   > xmission.com
   > thmi.com
   >
   > i need to read more on the protocol
   > as i am not confident that i am following it right
   >
   > thanks
   > Anna (irelAND)
   >
   >
   >
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I have communicated with Rich concerning chelating and will post
that next week. Among other things we discussed magnesium which is needed to
increase and make both Glutathione and ATP - but magnesium levels are exceeding
difficult to increase ,unless one does it transdermally with as pure a product
as possible.
                  Blessings
                         Shan


From:         Rich Van Konynenburg
Subject:      RES, MED: How might the Blasi protocol work in CFS?

  http://listserv.nodak.edu/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind0509c&L=co-cure&P=1585

There have been enough positive results reported from taking the salts of the
Blasi protocol that I have started to think about how it might be working at
the biochemical and physiological levels, in the context of what I already
believe to be true. I will confine my remarks to CFS, since I don't have a
working hypothesis for FM.

I would like to suggest three possibilities:

First, the protocol is highest in sodium. It is known that continually taking
more sodium has the effect of raising the blood volume. We know that many
PWCs test low in total blood volume, and we also know that increasing the blood
volume raises the venous return to the heart, and its preload. In view of the
work of Dr. Arnold Peckerman et al., confirmed by the more recent measurements
reported by Dr. Paul Cheney in Texas last June, we know that diastolic
cardiomyopathy is a problem in many PWCs, especially those with more severe
symptoms.
While increasing the preload does not correct the cardiomyopathy, it will
help to increase the cardiac output somewhat in the presence of the
cardiomyopathy. Increased cardiac output would have salutory effects on many
aspects of the
pathophysiology of CFS. This may be one mechanism by which the Blasi protocol
could benefit PWCs.

A second suggestion I would make is as follows:
there is good evidence for mitochondrial dysfunction in the skeletal muscle
cells in CFS (and in the later stage of CFS, it now appears that the heart
muscle is similarly affected), and I suspect that in many cases this is due to
glutathione depletion, which allows peroxynitrite to rise and to partially block
the Krebs cycle and probably also the respiratory chain. This decreases the
rate of production of ATP in these cells. It's true that ATP is used directly on
the muscle fiber proteins to enable them to extend, in preparation for a new
contraction (sort of like arming a mousetrap; you put the energy in
when you set the trap, and it is utilized when the trap is triggered
by the mouse.) The lack of a rapid enough supply of ATP is what is proposed
to limit the relaxation of the left ventricle of the heart in the diastolic
cardiomyopathy observed in CFS by Dr. Cheney. But ATP is also utilized in a big
way in cells to power the ion pumps. The system of ion pumps maintains the
proper concentrations of sodium, potassium, calcium and magnesium
inside the cells, relative to the outside. In muscle and nerve cells,
particularly, these concentration gradients are continually being degraded by
the
nerve impulses that are powered by them, and in cells in general, the sodium
gradient is used to power transport of needed substances into the cells, so the
pumps have to continue to operate to restore the concentration gradients and the
electrical potential across the cell membrane. When there is a decrease in
the rate of production of ATP, it can be expected that these pumps will not be
able to operate as rapidly as normal. The concentration
gradients of the ions can then be expected to decrease from their
normal operating values. I suspect that supplying potassium and magnesium in
the Blasi protocol may assist the underpowered ion pumps in their job of
maintaining proper concentrations of these ions inside the cells.

The third suggestion I would make is that we know that many PWCs
have mild diabetes insipidus (not the same as the more common diabetes
mellitus, which involves blood sugar). In diabetes insipidus, the person
produces
excessive amounts of urine. In the process, there is a tendency to waste more
electrolytes in the urine. The Blasi protocol may be helping to restore the
electrolytes that are wasted.

None of these actions would produce a cure of the underlying causes
of CFS, as far as I can tell, but they would be supportive of the overall
physiology and would contribute to better quality of life.

In my view, the more fundamental issues that also need to be
addressed are

(1) getting the glutathione levels and rate of production back up to normal,

(2) addressing the reasons why the glutathione went down originally (possible
genetic variations, which can perhaps be compensated using certain
supplements, and various physical, chemical, biological and/or psycholical or
emotional
stressors that probably combined with a genetic predisposition to
lower the glutathione) and

(3) correcting the problems that have subsequently arisen as a result of the
glutathione going down, which now produce positive feedback or vicious circle
mechanisms, making it difficult to restore the glutathione level. These latter
problems include infections of various sorts (viral, bacterial and fungal)
and buildup of toxins (especially mercury).

Rich Van Konynenburg, Ph.D.

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In light of especially Cheney's
( http://www.dfwcfids.org/medical/cheney/heart04.htm  )
    Myhill's ( http://www.cfids-cab.org/MESA/DrMyhill-373.pdf   &
http://www.drmyhill.co.uk/article.cfm?id=373  ) & Peckerman's
( http://www.cfids-cab.org/MESA/Lerner.html ) as well as Rich Van Konynenburg
( http://listserv.nodak.edu/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind0509c&L=co-cure&P=1585 )
cardiomyopathy comments, among others, regarding CFS, ME, & FM etc ....
I thought this was interesting.
      I  seem to have been collecting these articles. The forth url above has
several links on it regarding this issue.
                  Blessings
                          Shan

Women Are Said to Face Hidden Heart Disease Risk
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/01/health/01heart.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&
oref=slogin
By DENISE GRADY
Published: February 1, 2006

Women are more likely than men to have a hidden type of coronary disease (
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/health/diseasesconditionsandhealthtopics/hear\
t
disease/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier )  in which their heart muscle is
starved for oxygen even though their coronary arteries look clear and free of
blockages on X-rays, doctors are reporting.

The condition, which may affect three million American women, greatly
increases the risk of a heart attack. Its main symptom is chest pain or
discomfort.
In many women, the pain occurs but nothing shows up on an angiogram, a test in
which dye is injected into the coronary arteries and they are X-rayed in a
search for blockages, so doctors conclude that no treatment is needed.

But patients may then go on to have heart attacks or develop heart failure, a
weakening of the heart muscle that can be debilitating and ultimately fatal.

"When there are no blockages, everybody slacks off, including the patient,
and we don't want to do that," said Dr. George Sopko of the National Heart, Lung
and Blood Institute. Such patients almost certainly need treatment, he said.

The best way for a woman to find out whether she has the artery disease is to
undergo tests, including certain type of stress tests, that measure blood
flow to the heart. But not everyone needs to be tested; women with symptoms, a
family history of heart disease or severe risk factors may be candidates.

The findings are among those in a series of articles to be published today in
two medical journals — the Journal of the American College of Cardiology, and
Circulation — exploring the differences in heart disease between men and
women. The subject has drawn increasing interest in recent decades, as
scientists
began to realize that the results of previous studies, done mostly in men, did
not always apply to women.

Among the differences already known are that women with heart disease tend to
be sicker than men by the time it is diagnosed, to benefit less from bypass
surgery and to have more severe symptoms when they develop heart failure. Some
of the difference is because women are older and frailer when they develop
heart disease, but that does not account for all of it.

Symptoms of heart attack also tend to differ. Men report crushing pain in the
chest, while women are more likely to feel dizzy, sick, short of breath and
sweaty.

Heart disease, strokes and other cardiovascular diseases are the leading
causes of death in the United States and other developed countries. They killed
910,600 people in the United States in 2003, the most recent year for which data
are available; more than half the deaths, 484,000, were among women.

Although women's risk is greatest after menopause (
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/health/diseasesconditionsandhealthtopics/meno\
pause/index.html?inline=
nyt-classifier ) and increases with age, heart disease is the No. 1 cause of
death in all women older than 25. Overall death rates from coronary disease
have declined in the past few decades, but most of the improvements have been in
men's rates.

The cause of the hidden disease being described today is a diffuse buildup of
fatty deposits inside the walls of the coronary arteries and in the very
small arteries in the heart. The deposits, or plaques, do not show up as
blockages
on X-rays, but they still interfere with blood flow and can damage the heart
muscle, causing ischemic heart disease. ("Ischemia" means "inadequate blood
flow.")

But often the condition is not recognized, and the women are told they have
nothing to worry about. Instead, Dr. Sopko said, they should be treated
aggressively for other problems that lead to artery disease like high
cholesterol,
high blood pressure and diabetes. If necessary, he added, they should also be
advised to quit smoking, lose weight and exercise more.

The researchers report that compared to a nonsmoker, a woman who smokes has a
risk of dying from heart disease equal to the risk she would have if she
weighed 90 pounds more than the nonsmoker.

"To women as patients, the message is, look, if you have symptoms, don't
think because you are a woman you are immune to having a heart problem," Dr.
Sopko
said.

The findings are based on a government-sponsored study called Wise, for
Women's Ischemia Syndrome Evaluation. Begun in 1996, it included 936 women who
had
symptoms that led doctors to order angiograms. The women's average age was
about 58, but a quarter were young enough to be premenopausal.

Despite their symptoms, only a third of the group had obvious blockages in
their coronary arteries. In a similar group of men, three-quarters or more would
have a severe blockage, said Dr. Carl J. Pepine, the chief of cardiovascular
medicine at the University of Florida in Gainesville and one of the lead
investigators in the Wise study.

In the remaining two-thirds of the women — that is, those without blockages
—
  more than half had abnormalities in their arteries, like an inability to
dilate when needed, that could cause ischemia, Dr. Pepine said. The
abnormalities
occurred in both the coronary arteries and smaller ones that feed the heart,
a network of tiny vessels called the microvasculature.

Tests showed that the artery walls were full of plaque but had grown outward
to accommodate it, so that the opening appeared normal. But, eventually, the
condition may progress enough to start pinching the artery shut, Dr. Pepine
said.

After four years, the rate of deaths or heart attacks in the group without
blockages was 10 percent.

"That's much too high for somebody with a normal coronary angiogram," Dr.
Pepine said.

It is not clear why women seem more prone to the hidden vascular disease, the
researchers said, though it may be linked to hormonal imbalances and a
greater tendency to suffer from inflammation, which plays a role in artery
disease.



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