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Disability, Sexuality and Rights -Online Training

For an application and brochure with complete course
information, click here.

Applications are due December 18, 2009.

An Online Course for Practitioners and Activists in Human
Rights, Public Health and Development Organizations and Movements

February 1 – April 1, 2010 (9
weeks, 5 hours per week)

The
Disability, Sexuality and Rights Online Training provides a study of theory and
practice for people working in fields such as development, health and rights,
including disability and sexuality. The aim is to develop awareness of
issues of disability and sexuality and a political perspectiveon
disabled people’s sexual rights. Participants develop their ability to work in
inclusive and holistic ways that further health and rights.

Why take this course?

* Disabled people are often excluded or discriminated against in relation to their sexuality by health, development and rights organizations because they are not considered sexual or they are thought to be vulnerable or uncontrolled sexually.

* Disability rights activists and service providers often disregard sexuality issues and rights in favor of issues considered more pressing and appropriate like employment and physical access.

* Sexuality is an important part of life, identity, society and culture for all people, including people with disabilities. It can be a source of pleasure and pain, empowerment and oppression. It cannot be ignored.

Key Questions and Content

    * What is disability? What is sexuality?
    * What do human rights have to do with disability and sexuality?
    * Why are disabled people discriminated against in relation to sexuality?
    * Why is sexuality important to everyone, including disabled people? Why is sexuality important for health, development and rights organizations to consider?
    * How does the experience and politics of disability in the global South impact theory and practice on disability rights? How are people organizing and campaigning around these issues?
    * How can we advance the rights, health and well-being of people with disabilities?

Accessibility

People with disabilities are encouraged to apply for this
training, which has been designed and tested to be accessible to people with
various disabilities and those with slower computers and internet connection
speeds. We will work with participants to adapt the course as necessary to meet
needs and enable full participation.

Format and Workload

The course will be conducted entirely online in English with
presentations, reading, discussion, research, activities and a final
project. Special technology is not required, except a computer that can
read Microsoft Word and Power Point documents and with Adobe Reader. Also
required is internet access to download/upload documents and comments for 20-30
minutes, 2-3 times a week throughout the course. The Institute will not
be done in real time; participants can complete the assignments at their
convenience within the time parameters.

Organizers and Resource People

This training is organized and taught by an international
group of academics and activists in the disability rights field who specialize
in sexual and reproductive rights and health from a global South perspective:
Anita Ghai (India), Caroline Earle (USA), Ekaete
Judith Umoh (Nigeria), and Janet Price (UK). Full bios in brochure at http://www.creaworld.org/

For an application andbrochure with
complete course information, click
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For more information, contact Caroline Earle - cearle@...
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#871

From: <qkcam45@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:55 pm
Subject: Outbreak

qkcam45

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any thoughts or ideas on this?

I have had the big swollen glands in my neck and lower mouth...since tuesday.. antibiotics are not helping- i know i had a "canker" sore last week ... before my mini make out session --- it had been over 2 years..

i am wondering if the "canker" sore got infected with saliva.. and now there is some strange viral infection going on? i am gargleing with salt water ---- but wondering about herpes- my first inital outbreak of herpes happend at 21 or 22 .... and seemed very similiar to this.. not sure what is going on..

it was great to have 5 days off work last week.... and a couple of them i had fun..(I am disappointed that I missed all the cool people in the ART group) now it seems i am paying the piper- i guess a person with low IGG subclasses, should not be exchanging body fluids- even if it is kissing.. ?? what a bummer!!

It is a question of whether to be so open about this on the list... but I have been to doctor.. with now help.. i'm just being human... and searching for clues.

and thanks for the cool art package!! sorry i missed the cookies!

thanks

chuck

#870

From: Sharon R P <hosnar@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:00 pm
Subject: Fibromyalgia Support Group for Spanish Speakers?

hosnar

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Hi Jose,

Thanks for contacting me. I am not aware of any Spanish speaking groups. But I am posting this on the Bay Area CFIDS and FM email discussion list. Perhaps someone out there is interested in starting one.

Or perhaps a Spanish speaker can offer to translate at one of the in-person groups.

I am also including a list of Bay Area Resources below. Perhaps you can inquire with them as well.

Sharon

Below are websites that include information about (chronic fatigue immune dysfunction, environmental illness, lyme disease, and fibromyalgia) resources in the San Francisco Bay Area. If you still have questions after looking at these sites, please post your question on my email discussion group.

CEFSB EMAIL DISCUSSION GROUP

This is my email discussion group for discussing CFIDS, Environmental Illness, and fibromyalgia in the SF Bay Area. You can post your inquiries there. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/CEFSFB

SAN FRANCISCO CFIDS AND FIBROMYALGIA SELF-HELP AND ADVOCACY GROUP

To get on the group's email list, send a blank email to SFFSSG-subscribe@yahoogroups.com<mailto:SFFSSG-subscribe@yahoogroups.com> or go to http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SFFSSG/. If you are planning to go to meetings, I strongly suggest that you get on the email list so that you can receive important notices. While meeting times and location will probably be the same every month, they are subject to change. If you don't have email, call Cosi 415 564 2275 or Deborah 415 332 5279.

DISCLAIMER

I do NOT necessarily vouch for or endorse: the organizations and individuals associated with the following websites; the accuracy of information they provide; the competency of health care providers who are listed; or any consequences of using this information. Individuals are responsible for independently evaluating the credentials and competency of health care providers whom they choose to see.

BAY AREA DOCTORS

The San Francisco CFIDS and Fibromyalgia Self-Help and Advocacy group.
This group has a compilation of various health care provider referral lists. They also have a collection of health care provider evaluation forms filled out by people who have seen them. You can see this compilation at the meeting. Call Sarah, to make sure that she will be attending, and bringing the booklet. 415 989 0091 .

A Listing of Bay Area Practicioners Specializing in CFIDS and FMS
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/choandjewel/cfids/docs.htm

California, USA ME/CFS & FM Good Doctor List.
http://www.co-cure.org/USA_CA.htm

This is the website for the SF CFIDS support group (currently on hiatus). There is a list of RECOMMENDED DOCTORS and general information about resources in the SF Bay Area.
www.immunesupport.com/supportgroups.cfm?id=5<http://www.immunesupport.com/supportgroups.cfm?id=5>. At the very of "Resource Information" there is support group info.

BAY AREA GROUPS. Some also have info about doctors.

Northern California directory of support groups and resources.
www.cacfsfms.org<http://www.cacfsfms.org/>

Ramon is starting a support/social group in San Francisco for gay men with fibromyalgia and CFIDS. 415 970 0770 .

Berkeley CFIDS support group. Currently defunct.
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/BerkeleyCFIDSSupportGroup/

Berkeley Fibromyalgia support group. Deborah Rich fibro@...<mailto:fibro@...>.
510-644-3273 (M-F til 8pm, Sat/Sun til 6pm)

Environmental Health Network www.cacfsfms.org<http://www.cacfsfms.org/>.

General all-purpose yahoo website for MCS people in the Bay Area Group home page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bayareamcslist

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/BayCanaryGrapevine/?yguid=154307886
Support and information exchange for the chemically injured of the greater San Francisco Bay Area

http://groups.google.com/group/sfbayareachronicpain
This group is for people of all ages who live in or near the SF Bay Area in California who suffer from invisible illnesses like Fibromyalgia, Myofascial Pain and others.

This has info about Sonoma County. www.cndsinfo.net<http://www.cndsinfo.net/>

San JoaquinCFIDS ME FMS support network
http://www.med-help.com/Link5521-A.html

Hayward/Tri-Cities Support Group home.earthlink.net/~rolee/index.html

self-help program http://cfidsselfhelp.org<http://cfidsselfhelp.org/>

OTHER RESOURCES

INVISIBLE DISABILITIES GROUP - LOW FEE
dianatoad@...
I facilitate a support group for people with hidden physical
disabilities--including chronic pain, chronic illness, and physical
differences of various kinds. Diana, at 510-388-4932

FREE PAIN CLASS
http://www.egwellness.com/instruction/free_intro_class.html

CHRONIC PAIN SUPPORT GROUPS - SF AND E BAY

www.theacpa.org

LYME GROUPS

Bay Area Lyme Disease Support Group Pages. http://lyme.ednixon.com<http://lyme.ednixon.com/>

S.F. Lyme Disease Support Group. Email or phone Diana at sf_lyme@..., (415) 786-9010 .
"Regular meetings on first Thursday of the month: please email or call Diana to confirm location and time. "

Marin Lyme Disease Support Group email list
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/marin-lyme

East Bay lyme disease support group. www.lymegroups.org/eastbay<http://www.lymegroups.org/eastbay>.
Their email list http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/EastBayLyme

GLUTEN INTOLERANCE/CELIAC

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/celiacbayarea/

Info about bay area celiac support groups and to get on their mailing list.
deutschm@...<mailto:deutschm@...>

DISABILITY BENEFITS AND RIGHTS
Independent Living Resource Center. http://ilrcsf.org/
Applying for disability/public benefits. How to request reasonable accomodations. Disabled rights. Assistive technology. Assistance finding housing.

SUICIDE PREVENTION
San Francisco
http://www.sfsuicide.org/ 24 hours hotline 415 781 0500 .

Please let me know if any info needs to be updated. Please also forward your suggestions to add to this list.

Good luck.

Sharon
hosnar@...

To: selby@...
CC: selbygang@...; wellnessctr@...; trsusie@...; cfids_self_help@...; sharpark@...; erfreeman@...
Subject: Support groups
From: Jose.Trejo@...
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:23:51 -0800

Hello, I was just curious if you have, or happen to know of, any fibromyalgia support groups for Spanish speaking people in the bay area? I work at Kaiser and get a decent amount of patient's with fibromyalgia but do not know where to send them for support in their language. Thanks for any help.

Jose E. Trejo, MSW
South San Francisco Adult Department of Psychiatry
(650) 742-2755

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#869

From: slangirl@...
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:33 pm
Subject: a reminder and an invitation

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http://events.goodvibes.com

hello my dear ones,

i will be at the gallery one last time, on saturday, nov. 21st from 2-4pm and i would love to see you. the exhibit will continue until nov.24th.

with much love and creative spark,

lori

xoxo

The Bisexual Art Project
Date: Now thru November 24, 2009
Time: I will be at the gallery on Saturday, Nov. 21st from 2-4pm
Place: Good Vibrations Polk Street Gallery,
1620 Polk Street (at Sacramento Street)
San Francisco, CA 94109

Good Vibrations and Jack Mohr, SFSU graduate student in Human Sexuality Studies, are proud to present an exhibition of visual works exploring the wide variety of experiences and expressions of bisexuality.

#868

From: Deborah Temple <deborahtemple@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:19 pm
Subject: Re: East Bay Cafe Meeting Tomorrow (Wednesday)

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Jenny~ I'm so sorry. I hope everything subsides into quiet and peace and wellness. Pls. call if you need any help. Do you need any help?

And Sarah, take good care of your precious self~ it's a beautiful day to rest~ that's what I'm doing~ only got up at 1pm!!

May we all be well and happy! Deborah

--- On Wed, 11/18/09, Jennifer Holbrook <jennilor@...> wrote:

From: Jennifer Holbrook <jennilor@...>
Subject: Re: [CEFSFB] East Bay Cafe Meeting Tomorrow (Wednesday)
To: CEFSFB@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 9:13 PM

I'm almost positive I won't be coming today after all. My mother is having angina (she already has congestive heart failure) and it won't calm down (one of the crazy things happening today), and I have to stay with her.

Jenny

--- On Wed, 11/18/09, Jennifer Holbrook <jennilor@sbcglobal. net> wrote:

From: Jennifer Holbrook <jennilor@sbcglobal. net>
Subject: Re: [CEFSFB] East Bay Cafe Meeting Tomorrow (Wednesday)
To: CEFSFB@yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 12:29 PM

Hi Sarah,

I'm sorry you're not feeling well. Rest up and take care of yourself.

Jenny

P.S. I'm still hoping to come, but my day has been crazy so far, so if I don't show up it's because I'm swamped.

--- On Wed, 11/18/09, Sarah Glaubman <sglaubman@gmail. com> wrote:

From: Sarah Glaubman <sglaubman@gmail. com>
Subject: Re: [CEFSFB] East Bay Cafe Meeting Tomorrow (Wednesday)
To: CEFSFB@yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 11:33 AM

I don't think I'm well enough to come. I'm glad it's going to keep going.

Sarah

On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:59 PM, S Falcone <bekindbecause@ gmail.com> wrote:

Hi All,

I also plan to be there : ) Stephanie

On 11/17/09, jmsschin <js72email-web@ yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi Everyone,

We will be meeting tomorrow at 2pm (unless I don't hear back from anyone).

We have changed our meeting place to:
Au Coquelet Cafe
2000 University Ave, Berkeley, CA 94704

It is indoors and centrally located in Berkeley, a block or two from bus and BART as well as street parking.

James

--
"Our task must be to widen our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty." Albert Einstein

"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the ways its animals are treated." Mahatma Gandhi

--
Sarah Glaubman
674 10th St. Apt. 5
Oakland, CA 94607
sglaubman@gmail. com

#867

From: Jennifer Holbrook <jennilor@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:13 pm
Subject: Re: East Bay Cafe Meeting Tomorrow (Wednesday)

jennilor...

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I'm almost positive I won't be coming today after all. My mother is having angina (she already has congestive heart failure) and it won't calm down (one of the crazy things happening today), and I have to stay with her.

Jenny

--- On Wed, 11/18/09, Jennifer Holbrook <jennilor@...> wrote:

From: Jennifer Holbrook <jennilor@...>
Subject: Re: [CEFSFB] East Bay Cafe Meeting Tomorrow (Wednesday)
To: CEFSFB@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 12:29 PM

Hi Sarah,

I'm sorry you're not feeling well. Rest up and take care of yourself.

Jenny

P.S. I'm still hoping to come, but my day has been crazy so far, so if I don't show up it's because I'm swamped.

--- On Wed, 11/18/09, Sarah Glaubman <sglaubman@gmail. com> wrote:

From: Sarah Glaubman <sglaubman@gmail. com>
Subject: Re: [CEFSFB] East Bay Cafe Meeting Tomorrow (Wednesday)
To: CEFSFB@yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 11:33 AM

I don't think I'm well enough to come. I'm glad it's going to keep going.

Sarah

On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:59 PM, S Falcone <bekindbecause@ gmail.com> wrote:

Hi All,

I also plan to be there : ) Stephanie

On 11/17/09, jmsschin <js72email-web@ yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi Everyone,

We will be meeting tomorrow at 2pm (unless I don't hear back from anyone).

We have changed our meeting place to:
Au Coquelet Cafe
2000 University Ave, Berkeley, CA 94704

It is indoors and centrally located in Berkeley, a block or two from bus and BART as well as street parking.

James

--
"Our task must be to widen our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty." Albert Einstein

"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the ways its animals are treated." Mahatma Gandhi

--
Sarah Glaubman
674 10th St. Apt. 5
Oakland, CA 94607
sglaubman@gmail. com

#866

From: Jennifer Holbrook <jennilor@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:29 pm
Subject: Re: East Bay Cafe Meeting Tomorrow (Wednesday)

jennilor...

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Hi Sarah,

I'm sorry you're not feeling well. Rest up and take care of yourself.

Jenny

P.S. I'm still hoping to come, but my day has been crazy so far, so if I don't show up it's because I'm swamped.

--- On Wed, 11/18/09, Sarah Glaubman <sglaubman@...> wrote:

From: Sarah Glaubman <sglaubman@...>
Subject: Re: [CEFSFB] East Bay Cafe Meeting Tomorrow (Wednesday)
To: CEFSFB@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 11:33 AM

I don't think I'm well enough to come. I'm glad it's going to keep going.

Sarah

On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:59 PM, S Falcone <bekindbecause@ gmail.com> wrote:

Hi All,

I also plan to be there : ) Stephanie

On 11/17/09, jmsschin <js72email-web@ yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi Everyone,

We will be meeting tomorrow at 2pm (unless I don't hear back from anyone).

We have changed our meeting place to:
Au Coquelet Cafe
2000 University Ave, Berkeley, CA 94704

It is indoors and centrally located in Berkeley, a block or two from bus and BART as well as street parking.

James

--
"Our task must be to widen our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty." Albert Einstein

"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the ways its animals are treated." Mahatma Gandhi

--
Sarah Glaubman
674 10th St. Apt. 5
Oakland, CA 94607
sglaubman@gmail. com

#865

From: Sarah Glaubman <sglaubman@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:33 pm
Subject: Re: East Bay Cafe Meeting Tomorrow (Wednesday)

ssglaubman

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I don't think I'm well enough to come. I'm glad it's going to keep going.�

Sarah

On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:59 PM, S Falcone <bekindbecause@...> wrote:

�

Hi All,

I also plan to be there : )� Stephanie

�

On 11/17/09, jmsschin <js72email-web@...> wrote:

�

Hi Everyone,

We will be meeting tomorrow at 2pm (unless I don't hear back from anyone).

We have changed our meeting place to:
Au Coquelet Cafe
2000 University Ave, Berkeley, CA 94704

It is indoors and centrally located in Berkeley, a block or two from bus and BART as well as street parking.

James

--
"Our task must be to widen our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty."��Albert Einstein

"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the ways its animals are treated."�� Mahatma Gandhi

--
Sarah Glaubman
674 10th St. Apt. 5
Oakland, CA 94607
sglaubman@...

#864

From: S Falcone <bekindbecause@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:59 am
Subject: Re: East Bay Cafe Meeting Tomorrow (Wednesday)

stephmgf

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Hi All,

I also plan to be there : )� Stephanie

�

On 11/17/09, jmsschin <js72email-web@...> wrote:

�

Hi Everyone,

We will be meeting tomorrow at 2pm (unless I don't hear back from anyone).

We have changed our meeting place to:
Au Coquelet Cafe
2000 University Ave, Berkeley, CA 94704

It is indoors and centrally located in Berkeley, a block or two from bus and BART as well as street parking.

James

--
"Our task must be to widen our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty."��Albert Einstein

"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the ways its animals are treated."�� Mahatma Gandhi

#863

From: Jennifer Holbrook <jennilor@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:37 am
Subject: Re: East Bay Cafe Meeting Tomorrow (Wednesday)

jennilor...

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Thanks for the reminder, James. I've been really tired this week, but I'm going to try to make it tomorrow.

Jenny

--- On Tue, 11/17/09, mizz yelli <mizzyelli@...> wrote:

From: mizz yelli <mizzyelli@...>
Subject: Re: [CEFSFB] East Bay Cafe Meeting Tomorrow (Wednesday)
To: CEFSFB@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 3:52 PM

hi james, i hope to make it this week. i've been too sick for the last couple but will hopefully be able to join tomorrow.
thanks!
~ariyele

From: jmsschin <js72email-web@ yahoo.com>
To: CEFSFB@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tue, November 17, 2009 11:56:07 AM
Subject: [CEFSFB] East Bay Cafe Meeting Tomorrow (Wednesday)

Hi Everyone,

We will be meeting tomorrow at 2pm (unless I don't hear back from anyone).

We have changed our meeting place to:
Au Coquelet Cafe
2000 University Ave, Berkeley, CA 94704

It is indoors and centrally located in Berkeley, a block or two from bus and BART as well as street parking.

James

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#862

From: mizz yelli <mizzyelli@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:52 pm
Subject: Re: East Bay Cafe Meeting Tomorrow (Wednesday)

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hi james, i hope to make it this week. i've been too sick for the last couple but will hopefully be able to join tomorrow.

thanks!

~ariyele

From: jmsschin <js72email-web@...>
To: CEFSFB@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 17, 2009 11:56:07 AM
Subject: [CEFSFB] East Bay Cafe Meeting Tomorrow (Wednesday)

Hi Everyone,

We will be meeting tomorrow at 2pm (unless I don't hear back from anyone).

We have changed our meeting place to:
Au Coquelet Cafe
2000 University Ave, Berkeley, CA 94704

It is indoors and centrally located in Berkeley, a block or two from bus and BART as well as street parking.

James

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#861

From: "jmsschin" <js72email-web@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 7:56 pm
Subject: East Bay Cafe Meeting Tomorrow (Wednesday)

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Hi Everyone,

We will be meeting tomorrow at 2pm (unless I don't hear back from anyone).

We have changed our meeting place to:
Au Coquelet Cafe
2000 University Ave, Berkeley, CA 94704

It is indoors and centrally located in Berkeley, a block or two from bus and
BART as well as street parking.

James

#860

From: <qkcam45@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:07 pm
Subject: Re: CFIDS/FM Group Meets Nov 14 - ART TIME!!

qkcam45

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I am really sorry I missed the group..I hope the art time will happen again.

Lori, I trust you got a ride home?

i was in a major meltdown on saturday... i could have used the support around going out on disability...i couldn't get off the floor though - many tears where shed that day.

----- Original Message -----

From: Pella Schafer

To: CEFSFB@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 11:44 AM

Subject: Re: [CEFSFB] CFIDS/FM Group Meets Nov 14 - ART TIME!!

Thank you!

It was really very healing for me to be in the presence of so many wonderful people who are also suffering, and also making it through. Josh and I both felt very welcomed.

Hope to see you again next month.

Best,

Pella

On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Deborah Temple <deborahtemple@rocketmail.com> wrote:

Hi Pella~ It was great to have you guys at the meeting yesterday~ our first ever Art Day~ and hope it was useful/helpful/inspiring for both of you!

Hope to see you guys next month! Deborah ( :

--- On Sat, 11/14/09, Pella Schafer <Pella1@gmail.com> wrote

I plan on being there today - first time - with my partner (my main support person, who could also use some support). My understanding from previous posts is that it's OK to bring a support person to the group? Please let me know if this is not the case.

Best,

Pella

On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Jim <jrqbear@juno. com> wrote:

HELLO FABULOUS PEOPLE! - Saturday, NOVEMBER 14

***###_ WE MEET THE SECOND SATURDAY OF EVERY MONTH. _###***

This is a ***FRAGRANCE FREE*** meeting. AND please DO NOT come to
the meeting if you are CONTAGIOUS.

THE INFORMATION WE SHARE AT THESE MEETINGS IS **CONFIDENTIAL* *.

BY ATTENDING THIS MEETING, YOU AGREE TO NOT SHARE INFORMATION ABOUT MEMBERS WITH THOSE OUTSIDE OF THE GROUP.

[Disclaimer: I cannot guarantee that all members will abide by this rule.]

The SF Fibromyalgia and CFIDS Self-Help and Advocacy Group meets
Saturday, November 14, 2-4 pm with David leading the first hour.

We continue with the following format: an hour for individual
sharing (4-6 minutes each) followed by an hour devoted to a specific
topic. HOLD EVERYTHING !! SPECIAL 2ND HALF THIS MONTH IS ART!!!

ABOUT ART FOR NOVEMBER:
Please let me know if you're planning to come, so we know how many tables to set up.

To protect the tables, we will need table cloths. Please let me know if you can bring one. Also, I ask that you refrain from bringing very "messy" art materials, like oil paint, or anything that can't easily be cleaned up.

Don't forget to bring any CFIDS or FM-inspired art that you have already made.

Looking forward to this!! This should be fun!!

Sharon

Here's a message from Lori about our NOVEMBER meeting:

we'll use the first hour of our support group to check-in, as usual. but, instead of using the second hour for discussion, we thought it would be fun to play.

we'll bring some art supplies, but feel free to bring some of your own: scissors, glue sticks, paper, magazines, old calendars, ribbon, yarn, stickers, crayons, etc.

we could make collages, or holiday cards or postcards for cfids/fm political advocacy or whatever floats your boat. ***we especially encourage you to create art that is inspired by your illnesses, and your struggles with them.*** you could even bring in your own art project to work on: your novel, your knitting, your newest craft-y obssesion, what ever you want to do, the point is to have fun.

also bring art you have already created, especially if it is something inspired by you having CFIDS or FM.

LOCATION
Davies Campus of the California Pacific Medical Center, at Castro
St. and Duboce St. Room B2-3. Enter the North Tower, take the
elevator to level B. It is near the cafeteria.

Parking in the garage is free. Take a ticket when you enter and
insert it into the slot when you leave. Sometimes you won't receive a
card when you enter. In either case, you won't be charged. Public
transportation: N, J, 22, 24, 6, 7, 66, 71. Wheelchair accessible.

Please make an effort to be on time to the meeting, as late arrivals
can be disruptive, especially to those who are sharing. It is better
to come to the meeting late, than not at all, but please make a
concerted effort to come on time.

FUTURE MEETINGS & TOPICS (2nd Saturday, 2:00-4:00):

DECEMBER 12: PACING
JANUARY 9: WEEKLY TARGETS: SETTING AND MEETING GOALS
FEBRUARY 13: STRESS MANAGEMENT

To receive meeting notices, get on the group's email list by sending a
blank email to SFFSSG-subscribe@ yahoogroups. com You will receive an
email with a link that you will need to click in order to confirm
your subscription. You can also get on the email list by going to
http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ SFFSSG/. If you are planning
to go to meetings, I strongly suggest that you get on the email list
so that you can receive important notices. While meeting times and
location will probably be the same every month, they are subject to
change.

Please note that SFFSSG is an email newsletter, ***NOT*** an email
discussion group. This email list will only have administrative
messages to the group. If you're interested in an email discussion
group for the Bay Area, check out http://health. groups.yahoo. com/
group/CEFSFB .

Questions, comments, suggestions: Email jrqbear@juno. com or if you
don't have email, call phone contacts. Please don't be offended if we
take a while to respond to email or not at all. We get A LOT of
inquiries and we do the best we can. Again, the email discussion group
is a great place to get info about the Bay Area.

Jim Remer
Assistant Moderator

***--From CFIDS Self-Help: Materials for Alumni/On-going Groups by
Bruce Campbell. Campbell also offers a free on-line course, and
sometimes an in-person course. Phone: 650/856-2109.
Email:CFIDS_ Self_Help@ Website: www.cfidsselfhelp. org.

#859

From: Pella Schafer <Pella1@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:44 pm
Subject: Re: CFIDS/FM Group Meets Nov 14 - ART TIME!!

pella_s

Offline

Thank you!�

It was really very healing for me to be in the presence of so many wonderful people who are also suffering, and also making it through. Josh and I both felt very welcomed.

Hope to see you again next month.

Best,

Pella

On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Deborah Temple <deborahtemple@...> wrote:

�

Hi Pella~ It was great to have�you guys�at the meeting�yesterday~ our first ever Art Day~ and hope�it was useful/helpful/inspiring for both of you!

�

Hope to see you guys next month! Deborah ( :

--- On Sat, 11/14/09, Pella Schafer <Pella1@...> wrote

I plan on being there today - first time - with my partner (my main support person, who could also use some support). My understanding from previous posts is that it's OK to bring a support person to the group? Please let me know if this is not the case.

Best,

Pella

On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Jim <jrqbear@juno. com> wrote:

�

HELLO FABULOUS PEOPLE! - Saturday, NOVEMBER 14

***###_ WE MEET THE SECOND SATURDAY OF EVERY MONTH. _###***

This is a ***FRAGRANCE FREE*** meeting. AND please DO NOT come to
the meeting if you are CONTAGIOUS.

THE INFORMATION WE SHARE AT THESE MEETINGS IS **CONFIDENTIAL* *.

BY ATTENDING THIS MEETING, YOU AGREE TO NOT SHARE INFORMATION ABOUT MEMBERS WITH THOSE OUTSIDE OF THE GROUP.

[Disclaimer: I cannot guarantee that all members will abide by this rule.]

The SF Fibromyalgia and CFIDS Self-Help and Advocacy Group meets
Saturday, November 14, 2-4 pm with David leading the first hour.

We continue with the following format: an hour for individual
sharing (4-6 minutes each) followed by an hour devoted to a specific
topic. HOLD EVERYTHING !! SPECIAL 2ND HALF THIS MONTH IS ART!!!

ABOUT ART FOR NOVEMBER:
Please let me know if you're planning to come, so we know how many tables to set up.

To protect the tables, we will need table cloths. Please let me know if you can bring one. Also, I ask that you refrain from bringing very "messy" art materials, like oil paint, or anything that can't easily be cleaned up.

Don't forget to bring any CFIDS or FM-inspired art that you have already made.

Looking forward to this!! This should be fun!!

Sharon

Here's a message from Lori about our NOVEMBER meeting:

we'll use the first hour of our support group to check-in, as usual. but, instead of using the second hour for discussion, we thought it would be fun to play.

we'll bring some art supplies, but feel free to bring some of your own: scissors, glue sticks, paper, magazines, old calendars, ribbon, yarn, stickers, crayons, etc.

we could make collages, or holiday cards or postcards for cfids/fm political advocacy or whatever floats your boat. ***we especially encourage you to create art that is inspired by your illnesses, and your struggles with them.*** you could even bring in your own art project to work on: your novel, your knitting, your newest craft-y obssesion, what ever you want to do, the point is to have fun.

also bring art you have already created, especially if it is something inspired by you having CFIDS or FM.

LOCATION
Davies Campus of the California Pacific Medical Center, at Castro
St. and Duboce St. Room B2-3. Enter the North Tower, take the
elevator to level B. It is near the cafeteria.

Parking in the garage is free. Take a ticket when you enter and
insert it into the slot when you leave. Sometimes you won't receive a
card when you enter. In either case, you won't be charged. Public
transportation: N, J, 22, 24, 6, 7, 66, 71. Wheelchair accessible.

Please make an effort to be on time to the meeting, as late arrivals
can be disruptive, especially to those who are sharing. It is better
to come to the meeting late, than not at all, but please make a
concerted effort to come on time.

FUTURE MEETINGS & TOPICS (2nd Saturday, 2:00-4:00):

DECEMBER 12: PACING
JANUARY 9: WEEKLY TARGETS: SETTING AND MEETING GOALS
FEBRUARY 13: STRESS MANAGEMENT

To receive meeting notices, get on the group's email list by sending a
blank email to SFFSSG-subscribe@ yahoogroups. com You will receive an
email with a link that you will need to click in order to confirm
your subscription. You can also get on the email list by going to
http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ SFFSSG/. If you are planning
to go to meetings, I strongly suggest that you get on the email list
so that you can receive important notices. While meeting times and
location will probably be the same every month, they are subject to
change.

Please note that SFFSSG is an email newsletter, ***NOT*** an email
discussion group. This email list will only have administrative
messages to the group. If you're interested in an email discussion
group for the Bay Area, check out http://health. groups.yahoo. com/
group/CEFSFB .

Questions, comments, suggestions: Email jrqbear@juno. com or if you
don't have email, call phone contacts. Please don't be offended if we
take a while to respond to email or not at all. We get A LOT of
inquiries and we do the best we can. Again, the email discussion group
is a great place to get info about the Bay Area.

Jim Remer
Assistant Moderator

***--From CFIDS Self-Help: Materials for Alumni/On-going Groups by
Bruce Campbell. Campbell also offers a free on-line course, and
sometimes an in-person course. Phone: 650/856-2109.
Email:CFIDS_ Self_Help@ Website: www.cfidsselfhelp. org.

#858

From: Deborah Temple <deborahtemple@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:33 pm
Subject: Re: CFIDS/FM Group Meets Nov 14 - ART TIME!!

deborahtemple

Offline

Hi Pella~ It was great to have you guys at the meeting yesterday~ our first ever Art Day~ and hope it was useful/helpful/inspiring for both of you!

Hope to see you guys next month! Deborah ( :

--- On Sat, 11/14/09, Pella Schafer <Pella1@...> wrote

I plan on being there today - first time - with my partner (my main support person, who could also use some support). My understanding from previous posts is that it's OK to bring a support person to the group? Please let me know if this is not the case.

Best,

Pella

On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Jim <jrqbear@juno. com> wrote:

HELLO FABULOUS PEOPLE! - Saturday, NOVEMBER 14

***###_ WE MEET THE SECOND SATURDAY OF EVERY MONTH. _###***

This is a ***FRAGRANCE FREE*** meeting. AND please DO NOT come to
the meeting if you are CONTAGIOUS.

THE INFORMATION WE SHARE AT THESE MEETINGS IS **CONFIDENTIAL* *.

BY ATTENDING THIS MEETING, YOU AGREE TO NOT SHARE INFORMATION ABOUT MEMBERS WITH THOSE OUTSIDE OF THE GROUP.

[Disclaimer: I cannot guarantee that all members will abide by this rule.]

The SF Fibromyalgia and CFIDS Self-Help and Advocacy Group meets
Saturday, November 14, 2-4 pm with David leading the first hour.

We continue with the following format: an hour for individual
sharing (4-6 minutes each) followed by an hour devoted to a specific
topic. HOLD EVERYTHING !! SPECIAL 2ND HALF THIS MONTH IS ART!!!

ABOUT ART FOR NOVEMBER:
Please let me know if you're planning to come, so we know how many tables to set up.

To protect the tables, we will need table cloths. Please let me know if you can bring one. Also, I ask that you refrain from bringing very "messy" art materials, like oil paint, or anything that can't easily be cleaned up.

Don't forget to bring any CFIDS or FM-inspired art that you have already made.

Looking forward to this!! This should be fun!!

Sharon

Here's a message from Lori about our NOVEMBER meeting:

we'll use the first hour of our support group to check-in, as usual. but, instead of using the second hour for discussion, we thought it would be fun to play.

we'll bring some art supplies, but feel free to bring some of your own: scissors, glue sticks, paper, magazines, old calendars, ribbon, yarn, stickers, crayons, etc.

we could make collages, or holiday cards or postcards for cfids/fm political advocacy or whatever floats your boat. ***we especially encourage you to create art that is inspired by your illnesses, and your struggles with them.*** you could even bring in your own art project to work on: your novel, your knitting, your newest craft-y obssesion, what ever you want to do, the point is to have fun.

also bring art you have already created, especially if it is something inspired by you having CFIDS or FM.

LOCATION
Davies Campus of the California Pacific Medical Center, at Castro
St. and Duboce St. Room B2-3. Enter the North Tower, take the
elevator to level B. It is near the cafeteria.

Parking in the garage is free. Take a ticket when you enter and
insert it into the slot when you leave. Sometimes you won't receive a
card when you enter. In either case, you won't be charged. Public
transportation: N, J, 22, 24, 6, 7, 66, 71. Wheelchair accessible.

Please make an effort to be on time to the meeting, as late arrivals
can be disruptive, especially to those who are sharing. It is better
to come to the meeting late, than not at all, but please make a
concerted effort to come on time.

FUTURE MEETINGS & TOPICS (2nd Saturday, 2:00-4:00):

DECEMBER 12: PACING
JANUARY 9: WEEKLY TARGETS: SETTING AND MEETING GOALS
FEBRUARY 13: STRESS MANAGEMENT

To receive meeting notices, get on the group's email list by sending a
blank email to SFFSSG-subscribe@ yahoogroups. com You will receive an
email with a link that you will need to click in order to confirm
your subscription. You can also get on the email list by going to
http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ SFFSSG/. If you are planning
to go to meetings, I strongly suggest that you get on the email list
so that you can receive important notices. While meeting times and
location will probably be the same every month, they are subject to
change.

Please note that SFFSSG is an email newsletter, ***NOT*** an email
discussion group. This email list will only have administrative
messages to the group. If you're interested in an email discussion
group for the Bay Area, check out http://health. groups.yahoo. com/
group/CEFSFB .

Questions, comments, suggestions: Email jrqbear@juno. com or if you
don't have email, call phone contacts. Please don't be offended if we
take a while to respond to email or not at all. We get A LOT of
inquiries and we do the best we can. Again, the email discussion group
is a great place to get info about the Bay Area.

Jim Remer
Assistant Moderator

***--From CFIDS Self-Help: Materials for Alumni/On-going Groups by
Bruce Campbell. Campbell also offers a free on-line course, and
sometimes an in-person course. Phone: 650/856-2109.
Email:CFIDS_ Self_Help@ Website: www.cfidsselfhelp. org.

#857

From: slangirl@...
Date: Sat Nov 14, 2009 3:49 pm
Subject: Re: CFIDS/FM Group Meets Nov 14 - ART TIME!!

jorikeet

Offline

yay pella! i'm glad you're coming. and it's totally cool to bring your partner.

xoxo

lori

In a message dated 11/14/2009 12:41:27 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, Pella1@... writes:

I plan on being there today - first time - with my partner (my main support person, who could also use some support). My understanding from previous posts is that it's OK to bring a support person to the group? Please let me know if this is not the case.

Best,

Pella

#856

From: Pella Schafer <Pella1@...>
Date: Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:40 pm
Subject: Re: CFIDS/FM Group Meets Nov 14 - ART TIME!!

pella_s

Offline

Best,

Pella

On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Jim <jrqbear@...> wrote:

�

HELLO FABULOUS PEOPLE! - Saturday, NOVEMBER 14

***###_ WE MEET THE SECOND SATURDAY OF EVERY MONTH. _###***

This is a ***FRAGRANCE FREE*** meeting. AND please DO NOT come to
the meeting if you are CONTAGIOUS.

THE INFORMATION WE SHARE AT THESE MEETINGS IS **CONFIDENTIAL**.

BY ATTENDING THIS MEETING, YOU AGREE TO NOT SHARE INFORMATION ABOUT MEMBERS WITH THOSE OUTSIDE OF THE GROUP.

[Disclaimer: I cannot guarantee that all members will abide by this rule.]

The SF Fibromyalgia and CFIDS Self-Help and Advocacy Group meets
Saturday, November 14, 2-4 pm with David leading the first hour.

We continue with the following format: an hour for individual
sharing (4-6 minutes each) followed by an hour devoted to a specific
topic. HOLD EVERYTHING !! SPECIAL 2ND HALF THIS MONTH IS ART!!!

ABOUT ART FOR NOVEMBER:
Please let me know if you're planning to come, so we know how many tables to set up.

To protect the tables, we will need table cloths. Please let me know if you can bring one. Also, I ask that you refrain from bringing very "messy" art materials, like oil paint, or anything that can't easily be cleaned up.

Don't forget to bring any CFIDS or FM-inspired art that you have already made.

Looking forward to this!! This should be fun!!

Sharon

Here's a message from Lori about our NOVEMBER meeting:

we'll use the first hour of our support group to check-in, as usual. but, instead of using the second hour for discussion, we thought it would be fun to play.

we'll bring some art supplies, but feel free to bring some of your own: scissors, glue sticks, paper, magazines, old calendars, ribbon, yarn, stickers, crayons, etc.

we could make collages, or holiday cards or postcards for cfids/fm political advocacy or whatever floats your boat. ***we especially encourage you to create art that is inspired by your illnesses, and your struggles with them.*** you could even bring in your own art project to work on: your novel, your knitting, your newest craft-y obssesion, what ever you want to do, the point is to have fun.

also bring art you have already created, especially if it is something inspired by you having CFIDS or FM.

LOCATION
Davies Campus of the California Pacific Medical Center, at Castro
St. and Duboce St. Room B2-3. Enter the North Tower, take the
elevator to level B. It is near the cafeteria.

Parking in the garage is free. Take a ticket when you enter and
insert it into the slot when you leave. Sometimes you won't receive a
card when you enter. In either case, you won't be charged. Public
transportation: N, J, 22, 24, 6, 7, 66, 71. Wheelchair accessible.

Please make an effort to be on time to the meeting, as late arrivals
can be disruptive, especially to those who are sharing. It is better
to come to the meeting late, than not at all, but please make a
concerted effort to come on time.

FUTURE MEETINGS & TOPICS (2nd Saturday, 2:00-4:00):

DECEMBER 12: PACING
JANUARY 9: WEEKLY TARGETS: SETTING AND MEETING GOALS
FEBRUARY 13: STRESS MANAGEMENT

To receive meeting notices, get on the group's email list by sending a
blank email to SFFSSG-subscribe@yahoogroups.com You will receive an
email with a link that you will need to click in order to confirm
your subscription. You can also get on the email list by going to
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SFFSSG/. If you are planning
to go to meetings, I strongly suggest that you get on the email list
so that you can receive important notices. While meeting times and
location will probably be the same every month, they are subject to
change.

Please note that SFFSSG is an email newsletter, ***NOT*** an email
discussion group. This email list will only have administrative
messages to the group. If you're interested in an email discussion
group for the Bay Area, check out http://health.groups.yahoo.com/
group/CEFSFB .

Questions, comments, suggestions: Email jrqbear@... or if you
don't have email, call phone contacts. Please don't be offended if we
take a while to respond to email or not at all. We get A LOT of
inquiries and we do the best we can. Again, the email discussion group
is a great place to get info about the Bay Area.

Jim Remer
Assistant Moderator

***--From CFIDS Self-Help: Materials for Alumni/On-going Groups by
Bruce Campbell. Campbell also offers a free on-line course, and
sometimes an in-person course. Phone: 650/856-2109.
Email:CFIDS_Self_Help@ Website: www.cfidsselfhelp.org.

#855

From: slangirl@...
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:57 pm
Subject: Re: a ride home

jorikeet

Offline

thanks, chuck. hope to see you.

lori

In a message dated 11/13/2009 8:45:27 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, qkcam45@... writes:

if i make it - i can probably give you a ride home.. -- (not sure that i am going to make it yet) i guess that isn't much help.

chuck

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#854

From: <qkcam45@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:44 pm
Subject: Re: a ride home

qkcam45

Offline

if i make it - i can probably give you a ride home.. -- (not sure that i am going to make it yet) i guess that isn't much help.

chuck

----- Original Message -----

From: slangirl@...

To: CEFSFB@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 8:01 AM

Subject: [CEFSFB] a ride home

hello all,
i'm looking forward to making art with you on saturday at the sf cfs/fm group. deborah will be giving me and my art supplies a ride to group, but i will need a ride back home. i live at 18th ave & judah in the sunset. thanks for your help.

xo

lori

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#853

From: slangirl@...
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:01 am
Subject: a ride home

jorikeet

Offline

hello all,

i'm looking forward to making art with you on saturday at the sf cfs/fm group. deborah will be giving me and my art supplies a ride to group, but i will need a ride back home. i live at 18th ave & judah in the sunset. thanks for your help.

lori

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#852

From: "Jim" <jrqbear@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:31 am
Subject: CFIDS/FM Group Meets Nov 14 - ART TIME!!

jrqbear

Offline

HELLO FABULOUS PEOPLE! - Saturday, NOVEMBER 14

***###_ WE MEET THE SECOND SATURDAY OF EVERY MONTH. _###***

This is a ***FRAGRANCE FREE*** meeting. AND please DO NOT come to
the meeting if you are CONTAGIOUS.

THE INFORMATION WE SHARE AT THESE MEETINGS IS **CONFIDENTIAL**.

BY ATTENDING THIS MEETING, YOU AGREE TO NOT SHARE INFORMATION ABOUT MEMBERS WITH
THOSE OUTSIDE OF THE GROUP.

[Disclaimer: I cannot guarantee that all members will abide by this rule.]

The SF Fibromyalgia and CFIDS Self-Help and Advocacy Group meets
Saturday, November 14, 2-4 pm with David leading the first hour.

We continue with the following format: an hour for individual
sharing (4-6 minutes each) followed by an hour devoted to a specific
topic. HOLD EVERYTHING !!  SPECIAL 2ND HALF THIS MONTH IS ART!!!


ABOUT ART FOR NOVEMBER:
Please let me know if you're planning to come, so we know how many tables to set
up.

To protect the tables, we will need table cloths.  Please let me know if you can
bring one.  Also, I ask that you refrain from bringing very "messy" art
materials, like oil paint, or anything that can't easily be cleaned up.

Don't forget to bring any CFIDS or FM-inspired art that you have already made.

Looking forward to this!!  This should be fun!!

Sharon

Here's a message from Lori about our NOVEMBER meeting:

     we'll use the first hour of our support group to check-in, as usual. but,
instead of using the second hour for discussion, we thought it would be fun to
play.

     we'll bring some art supplies, but feel free to bring some of your own:
scissors, glue sticks, paper, magazines, old calendars, ribbon, yarn, stickers,
crayons, etc.

     we could make collages, or holiday cards or postcards for cfids/fm political
advocacy or whatever floats your boat. ***we especially encourage you to create
art that is inspired by your illnesses, and your struggles with them.*** you
could even bring in your own art project to work on: your novel, your knitting,
your newest craft-y obssesion, what ever you want to do, the point is to have
fun.

     also bring art you have already created, especially if it is something
inspired by you having CFIDS or FM.



LOCATION
Davies Campus of the California Pacific Medical Center, at Castro
St. and Duboce St. Room B2-3. Enter the North Tower, take the
elevator to level B. It is near the cafeteria.

Parking in the garage is free. Take a ticket when you enter and
insert it into the slot when you leave. Sometimes you won't receive a
card when you enter. In either case, you won't be charged. Public
transportation: N, J, 22, 24, 6, 7, 66, 71. Wheelchair accessible.

Please make an effort to be on time to the meeting, as late arrivals
can be disruptive, especially to those who are sharing. It is better
to come to the meeting late, than not at all, but please make a
concerted effort to come on time.

FUTURE MEETINGS & TOPICS (2nd Saturday, 2:00-4:00):

DECEMBER 12: PACING
JANUARY 9: WEEKLY TARGETS: SETTING AND MEETING GOALS
FEBRUARY 13: STRESS MANAGEMENT

To receive meeting notices, get on the group's email list by sending a
blank email to SFFSSG-subscribe@yahoogroups.com You will receive an
email with a link that you will need to click in order to confirm
your subscription. You can also get on the email list by going to
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SFFSSG/. If you are planning
to go to meetings, I strongly suggest that you get on the email list
so that you can receive important notices. While meeting times and
location will probably be the same every month, they are subject to
change.

Please note that SFFSSG is an email newsletter, ***NOT*** an email
discussion group. This email list will only have administrative
messages to the group. If you're interested in an email discussion
group for the Bay Area, check out http://health.groups.yahoo.com/
group/CEFSFB .

Questions, comments, suggestions: Email jrqbear@... or if you
don't have email, call phone contacts. Please don't be offended if we
take a while to respond to email or not at all. We get A LOT of
inquiries and we do the best we can. Again, the email discussion group
is a great place to get info about the Bay Area.

Jim Remer
Assistant Moderator

***--From CFIDS Self-Help: Materials for Alumni/On-going Groups by
Bruce Campbell. Campbell also offers a free on-line course, and
sometimes an in-person course. Phone: 650/856-2109.
Email:CFIDS_Self_Help@ Website: www.cfidsselfhelp.org.

#851

From: qkcam45@...
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 6:01 pm
Subject: not over yet

qkcam45

Offline

It's not over yet.. After getting mean emails for my"future Ex landlord" on Friday, I thought all was done.

I left a small kitchen table there- I thought, I will just write it off.. I don’t want to see her.

I get a txt msg from her saying, come get your table.. And your over mopping with natures' mircle damaged some of my newly sealed wood floors- I know the guy that did her floors only charged her $200 so many I could pay him to fix that one spot where the floors buckled..

I'm not sure how to deal with this.. I will call the oakland tennants union.

I am so glad I didn't sign a contract with her.

And I hope if I don’t respond to her txt msg she will go away!

what to do?

#850

From: <qkcam45@...>
Date: Sun Nov 8, 2009 2:22 am
Subject: Re: moving update

qkcam45

Offline

all good ideas.. yes it was a beautiful day!

thank you! i have place to look at tomorrow.. it say communicative household.. how do i tell them i have this illness..and sometimes i can't communicate.. ? i guess i'll just show up and see what happens.

thanks

----- Original Message -----

From: Deborah Temple

To: CEFSFB@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 1:55 PM

Subject: Re: [CEFSFB] moving update

Being a trans person is NOT a fault!! Try to keep your mind from attaching to that thought!

What is fmla? Take a deep breath and exhale and use the wkend to keep looking for a place to live. Take your dog w/you. Go for a walk. You've got sunshine to enjoy.

Sit quietly for just a minute and watch yourself breathe~ with NO judgements! Works every time. Hang in there.

Deborah

thanks Deobrah, congradulations on the new laptop!   freedom..!!

a part of me thinks it's my fault.. because i'm a "trans guy" not a real guy... i'm wondering if some of her abuse comes from   "phobia"

i might try to still get into the place and just stay far out of her way- i know that sounds crazy, but this garage where i live is dark -    i'm not sure how much i will be able to afford for rent on fmla- in the winter here with heat bills i pay around $1000.

as far as the real job.. i think i'm taking fmla - i am so stressed with everything, i can't take it anymore! my body is wiped out!  teh person i had hired to help me clean got a real job.. .. so i 've got messy 1 room place...   maybe i can redecorate here and call it a day.

i really want to drink espresso and scream!!   take my dog out to the woods and hike, but my neck and back are in a flare up--   this is a trip

i am so glad i dont have to go through all this alone-------

thank you

----- Original Message -----

From: Deborah Temple

To: CEFSFB@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 7:47 PM

Subject: Re: [CEFSFB] moving update

Sorry, everyone~ I'm having trouble adjusting to my new, used laptop and my last email went out incomplete.

If the woman, who has an illegal unit w/smelly cat pee and no vent for the gas stove, is calling YOU crazy while sending abusive msgs~ it could only get worse.

Your in a process of lifting yourself out of a hole (who hasn't been there?). Keep on doing your process. This is a good time of year to look for a place. Many people tend to move in the summer~ so landlords will be happy to fill their vacant places w/a guy w/good credit and a legitimate, good job. We're all sending you good energy and our wishes for finding a place that fits your needs w/o the crazy parts!!

Blessings, Deborah

--- On Sat, 11/7/09, jrqbear@juno. com <jrqbear@juno. com> wrote:

Hi Chuck,

I would detach from that woman as fast as possible... but... do you have a signed lease with her? It sounds like she may be the crazy person. You did say she said her unit wasn't really legal, didn't you?

I know there are some good living situations in the East Bay, more so than in the City. I hope you can connect with the right one.

Jim Remer

ï»¿
i just got really mean text messages from the landlady at the "cat pee cottage" - she just got back from china, was really abusvie to me in her messages.. i mentioned a place that could reconnect the heat duct that is loose and stinky with cat pee..... and she said she doesn't want me as a tennat.. she doen'st have time for a crazy jobless person-

i am trying to detach- this is a BUMMER!!

----- Original Message -----
From: qkcam45@att. net
To: CEFSFB@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:22 AM
Subject: [CEFSFB] moving update

I want to say thank you everyone for your support.. I appreciate it and need it!
coming to work and trying to move is not easy. especially moving into a place that has problems.
i feel like i am trying to make it "fit" for me. it has to be bettr than the dark garage.

____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
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#849

From: Deborah Temple <deborahtemple@...>
Date: Sat Nov 7, 2009 9:55 pm
Subject: Re: moving update

deborahtemple

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Being a trans person is NOT a fault!! Try to keep your mind from attaching to that thought!

What is fmla? Take a deep breath and exhale and use the wkend to keep looking for a place to live. Take your dog w/you. Go for a walk. You've got sunshine to enjoy.

Sit quietly for just a minute and watch yourself breathe~ with NO judgements! Works every time. Hang in there.

Deborah

thanks Deobrah, congradulations on the new laptop!   freedom..!!

a part of me thinks it's my fault.. because i'm a "trans guy" not a real guy... i'm wondering if some of her abuse comes from   "phobia"

i might try to still get into the place and just stay far out of her way- i know that sounds crazy, but this garage where i live is dark -    i'm not sure how much i will be able to afford for rent on fmla- in the winter here with heat bills i pay around $1000.

as far as the real job.. i think i'm taking fmla - i am so stressed with everything, i can't take it anymore! my body is wiped out!  teh person i had hired to help me clean got a real job.. .. so i 've got messy 1 room place...   maybe i can redecorate here and call it a day.

i really want to drink espresso and scream!!   take my dog out to the woods and hike, but my neck and back are in a flare up--   this is a trip

i am so glad i dont have to go through all this alone-------

thank you

----- Original Message -----

From: Deborah Temple

To: CEFSFB@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 7:47 PM

Subject: Re: [CEFSFB] moving update

Sorry, everyone~ I'm having trouble adjusting to my new, used laptop and my last email went out incomplete.

If the woman, who has an illegal unit w/smelly cat pee and no vent for the gas stove, is calling YOU crazy while sending abusive msgs~ it could only get worse.

Your in a process of lifting yourself out of a hole (who hasn't been there?). Keep on doing your process. This is a good time of year to look for a place. Many people tend to move in the summer~ so landlords will be happy to fill their vacant places w/a guy w/good credit and a legitimate, good job. We're all sending you good energy and our wishes for finding a place that fits your needs w/o the crazy parts!!

Blessings, Deborah

--- On Sat, 11/7/09, jrqbear@juno. com <jrqbear@juno. com> wrote:

Hi Chuck,

I would detach from that woman as fast as possible... but... do you have a signed lease with her? It sounds like she may be the crazy person. You did say she said her unit wasn't really legal, didn't you?

I know there are some good living situations in the East Bay, more so than in the City. I hope you can connect with the right one.

Jim Remer

ï»¿
i just got really mean text messages from the landlady at the "cat pee cottage" - she just got back from china, was really abusvie to me in her messages.. i mentioned a place that could reconnect the heat duct that is loose and stinky with cat pee..... and she said she doesn't want me as a tennat.. she doen'st have time for a crazy jobless person-

i am trying to detach- this is a BUMMER!!

----- Original Message -----
From: qkcam45@att. net
To: CEFSFB@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:22 AM
Subject: [CEFSFB] moving update

I want to say thank you everyone for your support.. I appreciate it and need it!
coming to work and trying to move is not easy. especially moving into a place that has problems.
i feel like i am trying to make it "fit" for me. it has to be bettr than the dark garage.

____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
Online Medical Insurance
Get free online medical insurance quotes and save more money today.
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#848

From: deb obrien <DebOB@...>
Date: Sat Nov 7, 2009 9:07 pm
Subject: Re: moving update

deb94805

Offline

again, wrong deb...congrats on your new laptop, though...this deb lives in east bay and is pretty much homebound- definitely not able to get to sf.

good luck,

deb o

From: "qkcam45@..." <qkcam45@...>
To: CEFSFB@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, November 7, 2009 8:20:54 AM
Subject: Re: [CEFSFB] moving update

i have an option for a 2bdrm.. cheap.. but i dont like the neighborhood. . at least in my garage here - it is hard for anyone to break in...... why am i so paranoid and frozen.. i will go look at 2bdrm and see if there is any window light.

----- Original Message -----

From: Deborah Temple

To: CEFSFB@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 7:47 PM

Subject: Re: [CEFSFB] moving update

Sorry, everyone~ I'm having trouble adjusting to my new, used laptop and my last email went out incomplete.

If the woman, who has an illegal unit w/smelly cat pee and no vent for the gas stove, is calling YOU crazy while sending abusive msgs~ it could only get worse.

Your in a process of lifting yourself out of a hole (who hasn't been there?). Keep on doing your process. This is a good time of year to look for a place. Many people tend to move in the summer~ so landlords will be happy to fill their vacant places w/a guy w/good credit and a legitimate, good job. We're all sending you good energy and our wishes for finding a place that fits your needs w/o the crazy parts!!

Blessings, Deborah

--- On Sat, 11/7/09, jrqbear@juno. com <jrqbear@juno. com> wrote:

Hi Chuck,

I would detach from that woman as fast as possible... but... do you have a signed lease with her? It sounds like she may be the crazy person. You did say she said her unit wasn't really legal, didn't you?

I know there are some good living situations in the East Bay, more so than in the City. I hope you can connect with the right one.

Jim Remer

ï»¿
i just got really mean text messages from the landlady at the "cat pee cottage" - she just got back from china, was really abusvie to me in her messages.. i mentioned a place that could reconnect the heat duct that is loose and stinky with cat pee..... and she said she doesn't want me as a tennat.. she doen'st have time for a crazy jobless person-

i am trying to detach- this is a BUMMER!!

----- Original Message -----
From: qkcam45@att. net
To: CEFSFB@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:22 AM
Subject: [CEFSFB] moving update

I want to say thank you everyone for your support.. I appreciate it and need it!
coming to work and trying to move is not easy. especially moving into a place that has problems.
i feel like i am trying to make it "fit" for me. it has to be bettr than the dark garage.

____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
Online Medical Insurance
Get free online medical insurance quotes and save more money today.
http://thirdpartyof fers.juno. com/TGL2141/ c?cp=nbTyZjr7V4i fsNbVQ5wuugAAJ1C HJtLxd4pU9xgXUL8 YdvGRAAQAAAAFAAA AAB6drj4AAAMlAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAABJ QNQAAAAA=

#847

From: deb obrien <DebOB@...>
Date: Sat Nov 7, 2009 9:03 pm
Subject: Re: moving update

deb94805

Offline

hi qk - wrong deb..

good luck,

deb obrein

From: "qkcam45@..." <qkcam45@...>
To: CEFSFB@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, November 7, 2009 8:18:17 AM
Subject: Re: [CEFSFB] moving update

thanks Deobrah, congradulations on the new laptop! freedom..!!

a part of me thinks it's my fault.. because i'm a "trans guy" not a real guy... i'm wondering if some of her abuse comes from "phobia"

i might try to still get into the place and just stay far out of her way- i know that sounds crazy, but this garage where i live is dark - i'm not sure how much i will be able to afford for rent on fmla- in the winter here with heat bills i pay around $1000.

as far as the real job.. i think i'm taking fmla - i am so stressed with everything, i can't take it anymore! my body is wiped out! teh person i had hired to help me clean got a real job.. .. so i 've got messy 1 room place... maybe i can redecorate here and call it a day.

i really want to drink espresso and scream!! take my dog out to the woods and hike, but my neck and back are in a flare up-- this is a trip

i am so glad i dont have to go through all this alone-------

thank you

----- Original Message -----

From: Deborah Temple

To: CEFSFB@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 7:47 PM

Subject: Re: [CEFSFB] moving update

Sorry, everyone~ I'm having trouble adjusting to my new, used laptop and my last email went out incomplete.

If the woman, who has an illegal unit w/smelly cat pee and no vent for the gas stove, is calling YOU crazy while sending abusive msgs~ it could only get worse.

Your in a process of lifting yourself out of a hole (who hasn't been there?). Keep on doing your process. This is a good time of year to look for a place. Many people tend to move in the summer~ so landlords will be happy to fill their vacant places w/a guy w/good credit and a legitimate, good job. We're all sending you good energy and our wishes for finding a place that fits your needs w/o the crazy parts!!

Blessings, Deborah

--- On Sat, 11/7/09, jrqbear@juno. com <jrqbear@juno. com> wrote:

Hi Chuck,

I would detach from that woman as fast as possible... but... do you have a signed lease with her? It sounds like she may be the crazy person. You did say she said her unit wasn't really legal, didn't you?

I know there are some good living situations in the East Bay, more so than in the City. I hope you can connect with the right one.

Jim Remer

ï»¿
i just got really mean text messages from the landlady at the "cat pee cottage" - she just got back from china, was really abusvie to me in her messages.. i mentioned a place that could reconnect the heat duct that is loose and stinky with cat pee..... and she said she doesn't want me as a tennat.. she doen'st have time for a crazy jobless person-

i am trying to detach- this is a BUMMER!!

----- Original Message -----
From: qkcam45@att. net
To: CEFSFB@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:22 AM
Subject: [CEFSFB] moving update

I want to say thank you everyone for your support.. I appreciate it and need it!
coming to work and trying to move is not easy. especially moving into a place that has problems.
i feel like i am trying to make it "fit" for me. it has to be bettr than the dark garage.

____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
Online Medical Insurance
Get free online medical insurance quotes and save more money today.
http://thirdpartyof fers.juno. com/TGL2141/ c?cp=nbTyZjr7V4i fsNbVQ5wuugAAJ1C HJtLxd4pU9xgXUL8 YdvGRAAQAAAAFAAA AAB6drj4AAAMlAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAABJ QNQAAAAA=

#846

From: <qkcam45@...>
Date: Sat Nov 7, 2009 4:20 pm
Subject: Re: moving update

qkcam45

Offline

i have an option for a 2bdrm.. cheap.. but i dont like the neighborhood.. at least in my garage here - it is hard for anyone to break in...... why am i so paranoid and frozen.. i will go look at 2bdrm and see if there is any window light.

----- Original Message -----

From: Deborah Temple

To: CEFSFB@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 7:47 PM

Subject: Re: [CEFSFB] moving update

Sorry, everyone~ I'm having trouble adjusting to my new, used laptop and my last email went out incomplete.

If the woman, who has an illegal unit w/smelly cat pee and no vent for the gas stove, is calling YOU crazy while sending abusive msgs~ it could only get worse.

Your in a process of lifting yourself out of a hole (who hasn't been there?). Keep on doing your process. This is a good time of year to look for a place. Many people tend to move in the summer~ so landlords will be happy to fill their vacant places w/a guy w/good credit and a legitimate, good job. We're all sending you good energy and our wishes for finding a place that fits your needs w/o the crazy parts!!

Blessings, Deborah

--- On Sat, 11/7/09, jrqbear@juno.com <jrqbear@juno.com> wrote:

Hi Chuck,

I would detach from that woman as fast as possible... but... do you have a signed lease with her? It sounds like she may be the crazy person. You did say she said her unit wasn't really legal, didn't you?

I know there are some good living situations in the East Bay, more so than in the City. I hope you can connect with the right one.

Jim Remer

ï»¿
i just got really mean text messages from the landlady at the "cat pee cottage" - she just got back from china, was really abusvie to me in her messages.. i mentioned a place that could reconnect the heat duct that is loose and stinky with cat pee..... and she said she doesn't want me as a tennat.. she doen'st have time for a crazy jobless person-

i am trying to detach- this is a BUMMER!!

----- Original Message -----
From: qkcam45@att. net
To: CEFSFB@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:22 AM
Subject: [CEFSFB] moving update

I want to say thank you everyone for your support.. I appreciate it and need it!
coming to work and trying to move is not easy. especially moving into a place that has problems.
i feel like i am trying to make it "fit" for me. it has to be bettr than the dark garage.

____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
Online Medical Insurance
Get free online medical insurance quotes and save more money today.
http://thirdpartyof fers.juno. com/TGL2141/ c?cp=nbTyZjr7V4i fsNbVQ5wuugAAJ1C HJtLxd4pU9xgXUL8 YdvGRAAQAAAAFAAA AAB6drj4AAAMlAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAABJ QNQAAAAA=

#845

From: <qkcam45@...>
Date: Sat Nov 7, 2009 4:18 pm
Subject: Re: moving update

qkcam45

Offline

thanks Deobrah, congradulations on the new laptop! freedom..!!

a part of me thinks it's my fault.. because i'm a "trans guy" not a real guy... i'm wondering if some of her abuse comes from "phobia"

i really want to drink espresso and scream!! take my dog out to the woods and hike, but my neck and back are in a flare up-- this is a trip

i am so glad i dont have to go through all this alone-------

thank you

----- Original Message -----

From: Deborah Temple

To: CEFSFB@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 7:47 PM

Subject: Re: [CEFSFB] moving update

Sorry, everyone~ I'm having trouble adjusting to my new, used laptop and my last email went out incomplete.

If the woman, who has an illegal unit w/smelly cat pee and no vent for the gas stove, is calling YOU crazy while sending abusive msgs~ it could only get worse.

Your in a process of lifting yourself out of a hole (who hasn't been there?). Keep on doing your process. This is a good time of year to look for a place. Many people tend to move in the summer~ so landlords will be happy to fill their vacant places w/a guy w/good credit and a legitimate, good job. We're all sending you good energy and our wishes for finding a place that fits your needs w/o the crazy parts!!

Blessings, Deborah

--- On Sat, 11/7/09, jrqbear@juno.com <jrqbear@juno.com> wrote:

Hi Chuck,

I would detach from that woman as fast as possible... but... do you have a signed lease with her? It sounds like she may be the crazy person. You did say she said her unit wasn't really legal, didn't you?

I know there are some good living situations in the East Bay, more so than in the City. I hope you can connect with the right one.

Jim Remer

ï»¿
i just got really mean text messages from the landlady at the "cat pee cottage" - she just got back from china, was really abusvie to me in her messages.. i mentioned a place that could reconnect the heat duct that is loose and stinky with cat pee..... and she said she doesn't want me as a tennat.. she doen'st have time for a crazy jobless person-

i am trying to detach- this is a BUMMER!!

----- Original Message -----
From: qkcam45@att. net
To: CEFSFB@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:22 AM
Subject: [CEFSFB] moving update

I want to say thank you everyone for your support.. I appreciate it and need it!
coming to work and trying to move is not easy. especially moving into a place that has problems.
i feel like i am trying to make it "fit" for me. it has to be bettr than the dark garage.

____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
Online Medical Insurance
Get free online medical insurance quotes and save more money today.
http://thirdpartyof fers.juno. com/TGL2141/ c?cp=nbTyZjr7V4i fsNbVQ5wuugAAJ1C HJtLxd4pU9xgXUL8 YdvGRAAQAAAAFAAA AAB6drj4AAAMlAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAABJ QNQAAAAA=

#844

From: Deborah Temple <deborahtemple@...>
Date: Sat Nov 7, 2009 3:47 am
Subject: Re: moving update

deborahtemple

Offline

Sorry, everyone~ I'm having trouble adjusting to my new, used laptop and my last email went out incomplete.

If the woman, who has an illegal unit w/smelly cat pee and no vent for the gas stove, is calling YOU crazy while sending abusive msgs~ it could only get worse.

Your in a process of lifting yourself out of a hole (who hasn't been there?). Keep on doing your process. This is a good time of year to look for a place. Many people tend to move in the summer~ so landlords will be happy to fill their vacant places w/a guy w/good credit and a legitimate, good job. We're all sending you good energy and our wishes for finding a place that fits your needs w/o the crazy parts!!

Blessings, Deborah

--- On Sat, 11/7/09, jrqbear@... <jrqbear@...> wrote:

Hi Chuck,

I would detach from that woman as fast as possible... but... do you have a signed lease with her? It sounds like she may be the crazy person. You did say she said her unit wasn't really legal, didn't you?

I know there are some good living situations in the East Bay, more so than in the City. I hope you can connect with the right one.

Jim Remer

ï»¿
i just got really mean text messages from the landlady at the "cat pee cottage" - she just got back from china, was really abusvie to me in her messages.. i mentioned a place that could reconnect the heat duct that is loose and stinky with cat pee..... and she said she doesn't want me as a tennat.. she doen'st have time for a crazy jobless person-

i am trying to detach- this is a BUMMER!!

----- Original Message -----
From: qkcam45@att. net
To: CEFSFB@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:22 AM
Subject: [CEFSFB] moving update

I want to say thank you everyone for your support.. I appreciate it and need it!
coming to work and trying to move is not easy. especially moving into a place that has problems.
i feel like i am trying to make it "fit" for me. it has to be bettr than the dark garage.

____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
Online Medical Insurance
Get free online medical insurance quotes and save more money today.
http://thirdpartyof fers.juno. com/TGL2141/ c?cp=nbTyZjr7V4i fsNbVQ5wuugAAJ1C HJtLxd4pU9xgXUL8 YdvGRAAQAAAAFAAA AAB6drj4AAAMlAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAABJ QNQAAAAA=

#843

From: Deborah Temple <deborahtemple@...>
Date: Sat Nov 7, 2009 3:39 am
Subject: Re: moving update

deborahtemple

Offline

Hi Chuck~ Count this bummer as a blessing. ABUSIVE MSGS? EXCUSE ME!! IXNAY, IXNAY, CHUCK!

I

--- On Sat, 11/7/09, jrqbear@... <jrqbear@...> wrote:

From: jrqbear@... <jrqbear@...>
Subject: Re: [CEFSFB] moving update
To: CEFSFB@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 7, 2009, 2:11 AM

Hi Chuck,

I would detach from that woman as fast as possible... but... do you have a signed lease with her? It sounds like she may be the crazy person. You did say she said her unit wasn't really legal, didn't you?

I know there are some good living situations in the East Bay, more so than in the City. I hope you can connect with the right one.

Jim Remer

ï»¿
i just got really mean text messages from the landlady at the "cat pee cottage" - she just got back from china was really abusvie to me in her messages.. i mentioned a place that could reconnect the heat duct that is loose and stinky with cat pee..... and she said she doesn't want me as a tennat.. she doen'st have time for a crazy jobless person-

i am trying to detach- this is a BUMMER!!

----- Original Message -----
From: qkcam45@att. net
To: CEFSFB@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:22 AM
Subject: [CEFSFB] moving update

I want to say thank you everyone for your support.. I appreciate it and need it!
coming to work and trying to move is not easy. especially moving into a place that has problems.
i feel like i am trying to make it "fit" for me. it has to be bettr than the dark garage.

____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
Online Medical Insurance
Get free online medical insurance quotes and save more money today.
http://thirdpartyof fers.juno. com/TGL2141/ c?cp=nbTyZjr7V4i fsNbVQ5wuugAAJ1C HJtLxd4pU9xgXUL8 YdvGRAAQAAAAFAAA AAB6drj4AAAMlAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAABJ QNQAAAAA=