Sorry for any confusion (the zebra article has nothing to do with Val and
all her emails to everyone about Danny Carlton). She wanted Danny to let her
back into the group. Danny banned her from the group for bashing. All email
loops have bashing rules and the owners can decide who they want in the
group. It looks really firm at this point that Danny is not going to change
his mind about Val (she is banned from his group). He said that he had given
too many chances already.

Why did Val email us (or a certain number of people) - I don't know. She was
upset about the Danny obviously.

Go to this web site to see who is a member or whatever -
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CAHsupport/ of this email loop started by
"Angi Strong" <jaade1@...> in 1999 or so,

Again - Val is upset about the message board that Danny Carlton runs --
http://www.congenitaladrenalhyperplasia.org/mb/ and has her own group now on
MSN now on this web site below ( a member or guest thing like this yahoo
one that Angi is doing) - http://communities
.msn.co.nz/congenitaladrenalhyperplasia/chat






----- Original Message -----
From: <CAHsupport@yahoogroups.com>
To: <CAHsupport@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 12:05 PM
Subject: [CAHsupport] Digest Number 85


> There are 3 messages in this issue.
>
> Topics in this digest:
>
> 1. Re: Digest Number 84
> From: "preston" <preston@...>
> 2. Re: Digest Number 84
> From: jrwatson@...
> 3. Re: Digest Number 84
> From: "Angi Strong" <jaade1@...>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 23:49:09 -0500
> From: "preston" <preston@...>
> Subject: Re: Digest Number 84
>
> Oh ... I do not disagree with Kelly about the inaccuracies of the article
> (mistakes)...she is very correct about that... just the title of the title
> is so striking!!
>
> Roberta
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <CAHsupport@yahoogroups.com>
> To: <CAHsupport@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 8:18 AM
> Subject: [CAHsupport] Digest Number 84
>
>
> > There is 1 message in this issue.
> >
> > Topics in this digest:
> >
> > 1. Re: Digest Number 83
> > From: "preston" <preston@...>
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 21:19:40 -0500
> > From: "preston" <preston@...>
> > Subject: Re: Digest Number 83
> >
> > Kelly is right. But I do think that the author was right... CAH is not
> > black and white (zebra). CAH can range from mild or very severe (and
> places
> > in between).
> >
> > roberta
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <CAHsupport@yahoogroups.com>
> > To: <CAHsupport@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 6:45 AM
> > Subject: [CAHsupport] Digest Number 83
> >
> >
> > > There is 1 message in this issue.
> > >
> > > Topics in this digest:
> > >
> > > 1. Re: PCOS and LOCAH
> > > From: "CARES Foundation, Inc." <Kelly@...>
> > >
> > >
> > >
________________________________________________________________________
> > >
________________________________________________________________________
> > >
> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 09:16:41 -0500
> > > From: "CARES Foundation, Inc." <Kelly@...>
> > > Subject: Re: PCOS and LOCAH
> > >
> > > The "Zebra" article has some inaccuracies. I don't encourage folks to
> > refer to it.
> > >
> > > While this article is long, it explains the link between PCOS and
LOCAH
> > extremely well and in depth:
> > >
> > > http://www.infertilityphysician.com/androgen/intro.html
> > > Hope this helps.
> > > Kelly
> > >
> > >
> > > Kelly R. Leight, Executive Director
> > > CARES Foundation, Inc.
> > > (Congenital Adrenal hyperplasia Research, Education and Support)
> > > 973-912-3895
> > > 866-227-3737 (toll free)
> > > email: kelly@...
> > > URL: www.caresfoundation.org
> > > Disclaimer:
> > > Any communication from CARES Foundation, Inc. is intended for
> > informational and educational purposes only and in no way should be
taken
> to
> > be the provision or practice of medical, nursing or professional
> health-care
> > advice or services. The information should not be considered complete
or
> > exhaustive and should not be used in place of the visit, call,
> consultation
> > or advice of your physician or other health-care provider. You should
not
> > use the information in this or any CARES Foundation, Inc. communication
to
> > diagnose or treat CAH or any other disorder without first consulting
with
> > your physician or healthcare provider. Any referral to physicians is
> > provided as a courtesy only. CARES Foundation, Inc. does not
specifically
> > endorse or recommend these physicians.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [This message contained attachments]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
________________________________________________________________________
> > >
________________________________________________________________________
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 10:03:39 -0600 (CST)
> From: jrwatson@...
> Subject: Re: Digest Number 84
>
> Is it from this list that Val Jefferies has been mailing in bulk? I have
no
> idea what transpired on the CAH board, but wondered why I was part of her
list
> since I have not commented one way or the other about ANY topic recently.
> -Debbi W
>
> Quoting preston <preston@...>:
>
> > Oh ... I do not disagree with Kelly about the inaccuracies of the
> > article
> > (mistakes)...she is very correct about that... just the title of the
> > title
> > is so striking!!
> >
> > Roberta
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <CAHsupport@yahoogroups.com>
> > To: <CAHsupport@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 8:18 AM
> > Subject: [CAHsupport] Digest Number 84
> >
> >
> > > There is 1 message in this issue.
> > >
> > > Topics in this digest:
> > >
> > > 1. Re: Digest Number 83
> > > From: "preston" <preston@...>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> > >
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> > >
> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 21:19:40 -0500
> > > From: "preston" <preston@...>
> > > Subject: Re: Digest Number 83
> > >
> > > Kelly is right. But I do think that the author was right... CAH is
> > not
> > > black and white (zebra). CAH can range from mild or very severe (and
> > places
> > > in between).
> > >
> > > roberta
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <CAHsupport@yahoogroups.com>
> > > To: <CAHsupport@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 6:45 AM
> > > Subject: [CAHsupport] Digest Number 83
> > >
> > >
> > > > There is 1 message in this issue.
> > > >
> > > > Topics in this digest:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Re: PCOS and LOCAH
> > > > From: "CARES Foundation, Inc."
> > <Kelly@...>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> > > >
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> > > >
> > > > Message: 1
> > > > Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 09:16:41 -0500
> > > > From: "CARES Foundation, Inc." <Kelly@...>
> > > > Subject: Re: PCOS and LOCAH
> > > >
> > > > The "Zebra" article has some inaccuracies. I don't encourage folks
> > to
> > > refer to it.
> > > >
> > > > While this article is long, it explains the link between PCOS and
> > LOCAH
> > > extremely well and in depth:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.infertilityphysician.com/androgen/intro.html
> > > > Hope this helps.
> > > > Kelly
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Kelly R. Leight, Executive Director
> > > > CARES Foundation, Inc.
> > > > (Congenital Adrenal hyperplasia Research, Education and Support)
> > > > 973-912-3895
> > > > 866-227-3737 (toll free)
> > > > email: kelly@...
> > > > URL: www.caresfoundation.org
> > > > Disclaimer:
> > > > Any communication from CARES Foundation, Inc. is intended for
> > > informational and educational purposes only and in no way should be
> > taken
> > to
> > > be the provision or practice of medical, nursing or professional
> > health-care
> > > advice or services. The information should not be considered complete
> > or
> > > exhaustive and should not be used in place of the visit, call,
> > consultation
> > > or advice of your physician or other health-care provider. You should
> > not
> > > use the information in this or any CARES Foundation, Inc.
> > communication to
> > > diagnose or treat CAH or any other disorder without first consulting
> > with
> > > your physician or healthcare provider. Any referral to physicians is
> > > provided as a courtesy only. CARES Foundation, Inc. does not
> > specifically
> > > endorse or recommend these physicians.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [This message contained attachments]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> > > >
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> > >
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> > >
> > >
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> ________________________________________________________________________
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>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 11:07:34 -0500
> From: "Angi Strong" <jaade1@...>
> Subject: Re: Digest Number 84
>
> Who is Val Jefferies?
>
> Angi
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <jrwatson@...>
> To: <CAHsupport@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 11:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [CAHsupport] Digest Number 84
>
>
> > Is it from this list that Val Jefferies has been mailing in bulk? I
have
> no
> > idea what transpired on the CAH board, but wondered why I was part of
her
> list
> > since I have not commented one way or the other about ANY topic
recently.
> > -Debbi W
> >
> > Quoting preston <preston@...>:
> >
> > > Oh ... I do not disagree with Kelly about the inaccuracies of the
> > > article
> > > (mistakes)...she is very correct about that... just the title of the
> > > title
> > > is so striking!!
> > >
> > > Roberta
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <CAHsupport@yahoogroups.com>
> > > To: <CAHsupport@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 8:18 AM
> > > Subject: [CAHsupport] Digest Number 84
> > >
> > >
> > > > There is 1 message in this issue.
> > > >
> > > > Topics in this digest:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Re: Digest Number 83
> > > > From: "preston" <preston@...>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
________________________________________________________________________
> > > >
> > >
________________________________________________________________________
> > > >
> > > > Message: 1
> > > > Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 21:19:40 -0500
> > > > From: "preston" <preston@...>
> > > > Subject: Re: Digest Number 83
> > > >
> > > > Kelly is right. But I do think that the author was right... CAH is
> > > not
> > > > black and white (zebra). CAH can range from mild or very severe (and
> > > places
> > > > in between).
> > > >
> > > > roberta
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: <CAHsupport@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > To: <CAHsupport@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 6:45 AM
> > > > Subject: [CAHsupport] Digest Number 83
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > There is 1 message in this issue.
> > > > >
> > > > > Topics in this digest:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Re: PCOS and LOCAH
> > > > > From: "CARES Foundation, Inc."
> > > <Kelly@...>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
________________________________________________________________________
> > > > >
> > >
________________________________________________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > > Message: 1
> > > > > Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 09:16:41 -0500
> > > > > From: "CARES Foundation, Inc." <Kelly@...>
> > > > > Subject: Re: PCOS and LOCAH
> > > > >
> > > > > The "Zebra" article has some inaccuracies. I don't encourage folks
> > > to
> > > > refer to it.
> > > > >
> > > > > While this article is long, it explains the link between PCOS and
> > > LOCAH
> > > > extremely well and in depth:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.infertilityphysician.com/androgen/intro.html
> > > > > Hope this helps.
> > > > > Kelly
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Kelly R. Leight, Executive Director
> > > > > CARES Foundation, Inc.
> > > > > (Congenital Adrenal hyperplasia Research, Education and Support)
> > > > > 973-912-3895
> > > > > 866-227-3737 (toll free)
> > > > > email: kelly@...
> > > > > URL: www.caresfoundation.org
> > > > > Disclaimer:
> > > > > Any communication from CARES Foundation, Inc. is intended for
> > > > informational and educational purposes only and in no way should be
> > > taken
> > > to
> > > > be the provision or practice of medical, nursing or professional
> > > health-care
> > > > advice or services. The information should not be considered
complete
> > > or
> > > > exhaustive and should not be used in place of the visit, call,
> > > consultation
> > > > or advice of your physician or other health-care provider. You
should
> > > not
> > > > use the information in this or any CARES Foundation, Inc.
> > > communication to
> > > > diagnose or treat CAH or any other disorder without first consulting
> > > with
> > > > your physician or healthcare provider. Any referral to physicians is
> > > > provided as a courtesy only. CARES Foundation, Inc. does not
> > > specifically
> > > > endorse or recommend these physicians.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [This message contained attachments]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
________________________________________________________________________
> > > > >
> > >
________________________________________________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
________________________________________________________________________
> > > >
> > >
________________________________________________________________________
> > > >
> > > >
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