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Hello! I go by Scenic City, and I've been rockin my natural tresses for
about 3 years now. My hair is more wavy than curly on the ends (3a/3b),
but I want to learn some tips on preventing breakage so that it will
grow quite long.

This is what I do weekly:

I wash once a week with Burts Bees More Moisture (natural shampoo/ no
sulfates) and BBees More Moisture Conditioner
I use bioInfusion Olive Oil Hair Moisturizer on damp hair, then comb
through
I oil my scalp 1-2x/week with WGO (Wild Growth Oil), rubbing oil on my
ends
I lightly twist my hair up, pin it with a secure bobby pin.
Finally, I wear 1 yd of black satin as a headwrap (believe me, it fits).

If there's anything that I need to know about protective styling, let
me know. I don't think I'm doing exactly enough to get it growing to
its full potential. This is all I do....

God bless you sis. I'm wondering why on earth is it still necessary
to cater to the fears of others just to earn a living. It's beginning
to be a tired excuse that we must "water down" the African in us
unless we are hungry, starving Africans in the news. It's okay to be
bald, nappy and rail thin with aids as long as you wear a great big
smile when an American philanthropist drops through battle-weary mama
Africa bearing gifts.

Some cities/locales used to be more tolerant than others in the USA.
Where do you live? What region? Although to be quite honest in this
highly competitive, politically incorrect, low wage economic
climate...it's grimier all over the place nowdays.

The "haves and have mores" are breaking the backbone of hard-working
Americans & America.

Hairstyles should be the least of our worries but petty, puny people
won't let it go.

PS - I'm writing this to you on a super-hot 100+ degree day in
Cincinnati OH. My concern is my 15yo leaving home for varsity
football practice when schools all over the city were cancelled due
to the heat indices. He knows to listen to his body, but I've left a
voice message for the coaches. If a kid can't study in class, how can
they play sports? I left my salon yesterday where I've been getting
my natural tightly coiled hair pressed due to the heat and "going
back". My hair is not long but I want water running through my hair,
on my scalp, with these temperatures. Feel me? Lastly, she uses the
marcel irons and they silken my hair but it smells burned afterwards
ok.

--- In BlackTresses@yahoogroups.com, "Noko" <loco_noko@...> wrote:
>
> It's hard not to back down when faced with this situation.  But I
> think it is just about time White and Black folks get used to
seeing
> real Black people and all their African features.  I at one time
> thought I would press my hair to get a job but I just can't see
> putting my hair through that.  I know so many people who don't get
> their naps back after a supposedly "good" and "safe" press but end
up
> with sections burned out or permanently straight sections.  That
will
> seriously mess up my fros and puffs!  Now I don't come into a job
> interview with a straight up fro because I know how intimidating it
> is to White people.  I will wear a puff or twists.  But I refuse to
> put my hair through crazy heat stress just so a White man can smile
> and say, "Oh that's a nice Negro."  I just can't give into that.
> There are other jobs for me.  I WILL find them!
>
> Noko
>
> --- In BlackTresses@yahoogroups.com, S W <eboni31@y...> wrote:
> > Okay?  I really hate that I have to straighten my hair to get a
new
> job in ATL.  A sista at an employment agency took one look at my
hair
> and said, "Now, I love your hair.  Its beautiful.  I hate to say
this
> but you'll get more positive interest and responses if you
straighten
> your hair."  She said she came in with neat cornrows one time and
> they damn near had a fit.  They couldn't handle it.  So, she just
> keeps her hair permed.  In 2003, White people are still not
> comfortable with Black women wearing natural hairstyles.  Its
> not "polished" or "sophisicated," its "too casual" or "too
> political."
> >
> > After I get the job, I should come in the next day with a big
ole'
> FOXY BROWN Afro!   LOL!  Hopefully I won't have to stay straight
for
> long; I'll try to "ease" them into it.
> >
> > Anyway, there's no way I'm perming my hair again so I'm going to
a
> salon to get a good old-fashioned hot comb press, like when I was
5.
> I tried to straighten it with an electric flat iron but after
almost
> 3 years being nappy, its nowhere near hot enough to completely
> straighten my hair.
> >
> > I need some help, y'all.  I've always had permed hair before I
went
> natural so I haven't a clue on how to maintain it between
washings.
> My hair is very thick so I sweat a lot in my head and its very
humid
> here in the summertime.  Could you tell me what kinds of products
you
> use, what routines you do and stuff like that?  And do you have to
go
> to the salon every week or do you press your hair yourself?
> >
> > I'd really appreciate any help you can give me.
> >
> > Sheri
>

Tank u very very much I will do the band thing as I get the aloe vera
ur advise was great I really apreciated--- In
BlackTresses@yahoogroups.com, Deatri King-Bey <gemimonk@...> wrote:
>
> Aloe Vera Gel is one of the best locking agents.
>
>   Make sure you get the organic stuff. Some grocery stores carry
it. Here's an online company I get mine from
http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/bulkmisc/bulkmisc.html
>
>   After you wash his hair, make sure his locs haven't joined as
one. Gently separate them while his hair is wet, then palm roll, or
finger roll each loc using the Aloe Vera Gel or some other locking
agent. It doesn't take a lot for each loc. Do this while his hair is
wet. I actually have a stray bottle to keep my hair wet.
>
>   You roll each loc in a clockwise direction (at least that's the
direction I go). After a few are rolled, I twist them in a clockwise
direction and and band them so they don't come untwisted. Once they
are all dry, I take down my hair and finger comb it out.
>
>   It's easiest for me to start at the back of my head and work my
way forward. You'll need some sort of hair clips to hold the locs as
you twist them. the most important thing is to keep the base twisted.
So when I band them I'm not worried about the stuff above the band.
>
>   Anywhoooo, that's how I do mine. I made up the process by trial
and error. Hopefully there is a loctician in the group somewhere that
can tell an easier way.
>
>   Good luck
>
>   Peace
>   Deatri
>
>
>
>    Whisper Something Sweet
>   An erotic romance the likes you've never read before!
>   http://www.deewrites.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>

Aloe Vera Gel is one of the best locking agents.

   Make sure you get the organic stuff. Some grocery stores carry it. Here's an
online company I get mine from
http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/bulkmisc/bulkmisc.html

   After you wash his hair, make sure his locs haven't joined as one. Gently
separate them while his hair is wet, then palm roll, or finger roll each loc
using the Aloe Vera Gel or some other locking agent. It doesn't take a lot for
each loc. Do this while his hair is wet. I actually have a stray bottle to keep
my hair wet.

   You roll each loc in a clockwise direction (at least that's the direction I
go). After a few are rolled, I twist them in a clockwise direction and and band
them so they don't come untwisted. Once they are all dry, I take down my hair
and finger comb it out.

   It's easiest for me to start at the back of my head and work my way forward.
You'll need some sort of hair clips to hold the locs as you twist them. the most
important thing is to keep the base twisted. So when I band them I'm not worried
about the stuff above the band.

   Anywhoooo, that's how I do mine. I made up the process by trial and error.
Hopefully there is a loctician in the group somewhere that can tell an easier
way.

   Good luck

   Peace
   Deatri



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Hi Im a mother of a little jamaican boy with dreads so long to his
waist the problem is I don't know what to put in his hair to keep it
lock since is not really curly and they come apart so easy when I wash
his hair any suggestions

It's Breeze Harper of the Sistah Vegan project. I am an afro-sistah
who just joined this wonderful group. Been natural for about 12 y
ears now. I love it!

If you can, please help me distribute these flyers for my new Sistah
Vegan anthology about black female vegans. Though we talk about
plant based diets in these new anthology, there are several poems
and essays that parallal they way we take care of our hair with that
foods we put in our bodies. Several ladies in this anthology talk
about how their families think they are "weird" for wanting to
practice solely plant based diets... and for wanting to no longer
process their hair but to sport their afros and to have locs.
www.sistahveganproject.com

If you have access to a printer, could you please print as many as
you can afford to and hang them in your community? Click here to get
the pdf to print the poster:
http://homepage.mac.com/sistahvegan98/FileSharing37.html

I really appreciate this if you can. If you don't want to print them
out, feel free to email them to interested folks. I think people
interested in food, black studies, women's studies, health studies,
and decolonial theory will find this anthology very helpful.

Thanks,
Breezie

Amie Breeze Harper
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Well I believe that I have found a style that is amazing for growing
out natural hair!  Tree braids.  For all of you that may not know what
they are please visit http://braidsbykristen.blogspot.com  There are
lots of pictures of tree braids and other various braiding styles.
This style only takes about 4-5 hours to complete and it lasts for 6-8
weeks!  None of your natural hair is out you can style it however you
want!  Anyway I just learned about it and thought that someone could
benefit from what I came across.

Hello.

I am looking for a natural hair stylist in Omaha.  If anyone knows of a
salon that I could go to please let me know.

Thanks

its time we stop trying to look like our ancestor's master and his
wife. Its about time we shead the mental programing. Likeour music, if
we claim it as our and love it, they will soon be longing for naps and
dreads, just like they love our music.

> And that suggestion was based on what was easiest for *her*, not
you.
> To suggest that someone permanently straighten their hair for a one-
> time event is ridiculous. So what style did you wear and how did it
> go over with your friend?

I ended up flat twisting my hair at the front and two-strand twisting
the back. The I pinned all of the twists up in little coils to create
an updo. The real fun was trying to flind black hairpins in
Blondesville. It wasn't a fantastic hairdo but it worked... i'll try
to locate a pic.

> > Thank God for the hairdresser (who by the way is of East Indian
> > descent) who knows how to care for and style my natural hair.
>
> How does your current hairdresser care *and* style your hair? I ask
> because in my town there are braid shops a-plenty, but finding
> someone to actually take care of my hair has always been a problem.
> Braiders focus on styling, not conditioning or color. And typical
> Black salons can't even comb kinky hair properly. I don't know if
> this is standard or if it's different in bigger cities.

Well, my new hairdresser is just awesome. I live in Barbados and even
with a majority black population had trouble finding her. She
stresses health of the hair. So, the first thing she is concerned
about is my general health... am I eating correctly, drinking enough
water etc She also does not encourage a lot of daily product use
which can block the pores. About twice a week I spray my hair with
Organic Root Stimulator Olive Oil Spray. I don't need to oil my scalp
if I am properly hydrated from the inside. She also discourages  me
from "playing up" in my hair too much. Not only does that make it
fuzzy, but can suck the moisture out of it.

When I first started going to her, I was wearing my hair in all sorts
of natural twists, braids, twistouts etc. She usually starts with a
moisturising shampoo... recently switched to a new naturals line by
Dudley. The conditioner or treatment varies according to the state of
my hair and scalp. Sometimes it is a protein conditioner, sometimes a
moisturising mineral-oil based treatment or an exfoliating treatment
for an agitated scalp. In those days she would blow dry it with a
moisturiser and then either do two strand twists and pin them up or a
corn-row style... never any tension on the hairline. Now, I have
locs, after the treatment she palm rolls them with a light holding
cream (also by Dudley) and puts me under a hood dryer for a few
minutes. Then we pinup or leave down according to the occasion. She
also stresses respecting your hair's natural texture... as a black
woman with fully kinky hair, I will sometimes get little frizzies
when hair curls in a direction I didn't plan for... so what! I am
fearfully and wonderfully made!

In a few months I may be relocating to the US. So I am scheduling an
extra session with her to show me what she looks for and instruct me
on how to treat it. I am sceptical about letting just anyone put
their hands in my hair.

I haven't worn extensions in forever, I only know about Kanekalon(sp?)
which is supposed to be the softest synthetic hair for braiding, or at
least it was years ago when I wore braids. I've never heard of Milky
way. Is this human hair or synthetic? My suggestions would be forget
about wearing the ends loose. Get some spray detangler and try to
untangle as much as you can, then finish braiding down to the ends.
Maybe some other braid wearers will chime in.

--- In BlackTresses@yahoogroups.com, "michaele19"
<michaele.moffett@...> wrote:
>
> Hi ladies,
>    I need suggestions, badly.  I recently got my hair braided in
micro-
> braids, using Milky Way wet & wavy hair.  Well....the hair i
recieved
> is horrible!!!  It matted and tangled the first day!  My hair is
> braided up top and out half-way down towards the bottom.  It looks
soo
> frizzy!  My friend (who braided my hair about 3 months ago) used
Milky
> Way for her braids and they looked really good, so i dont know if i
> just recieved a bad batch or something.  Could anyone suggest a
really
> good brand of wet and wavy, silky hair, that doesn't frizz or tangle
> and holds waves really well??  Thanks!!

--- In BlackTresses@yahoogroups.com, "queen_vivacity"
<queen_vivacity@...> wrote:

> I don't have to watch the show to know how it goes... you are
> definitely on to something. When my hair was relaxed (and my scalp
> was burnt) I had no problem finding a hairdresser or someone
to "do"
> my hair even in the middle of nowhere in Ontario.

There will always be someone's sister-girlfriend-stepmomma's-cousin
who will perm your hair, and on the cheap! All you have to buy the
box of lying no-lye yourself. Good luck on picking out which brand of
Fabu-laxer she wants you to buy. Super? Ultra-super? Or could you get
by with a "kiddie perm"? If children can use it, it must be harmless,
right?

> When I began to wear my hair in it's natural state... it was a
> problem. My friend once found a black hairdresser in her town to do
> my hair for her wedding... (another middle of nowhere Ontario
> experience). The woman hemmed and hawed over my hair for hours and
> then asked me if I ever thought about perming it because it's so
> thick. I did my hair for the wedding on my own!

And that suggestion was based on what was easiest for *her*, not you.
To suggest that someone permanently straighten their hair for a one-
time event is ridiculous. So what style did you wear and how did it
go over with your friend?

> The answer is no! Hairdressers/hairstylists are not trained to deal
> with Afro hair in it's natural state. They are trained to perform
> chemical processes.
>
> Thank God for the hairdresser (who by the way is of East Indian
> descent) who knows how to care for and style my natural hair.

How does your current hairdresser care *and* style your hair? I ask
because in my town there are braid shops a-plenty, but finding
someone to actually take care of my hair has always been a problem.
Braiders focus on styling, not conditioning or color. And typical
Black salons can't even comb kinky hair properly. I don't know if
this is standard or if it's different in bigger cities.

Interesting site. I've seen the book listed on Amazon.com but I've
got enough hair books to last me a lifetime so I took a pass. I
didn't disagree with too much: trimming the hair doesn't make it
grow, don't oil your scalp, oil doesn't moisturize, don't brush.
Seems like common knowledge to me, but I guess not everyone got the
memo.

And I do give this woman credit for even attempting to solve the
riddle of our chronically dry hair. The professional hair care
industry has left Black people to "fend for ourselves" so to speak
and the result is constant misinformation and contradiction. There is
much more profit to be made in selling us products to temporarily fix
our hair problems, than educating us on caring for it properly to
start with. However, this woman also has her own products to push so
you gotta wonder...

What I'm baffled by is her vehement aversion to trimming hair. A trim
is not a bad thing, imo. No, it doesn't make the hair grow, but it
can contribute to overall hair health. I do a lot of twisting and
braiding and I'm not always gentle. The ends can get a little worn
out and start to tangle and snarl. When that happens, I just snip a
little off. No big deal. If you wear your hair straight, trimming
also gives a neater appearance. I've never met anyone whose hair grew
out perfectly even.

I can't say I was impressed with the hair growth photos. For someone
who claims to know the "secret" to Black hair growth I expected to
see hair down to her butt, especially if she's been growing it out
since 1987 and has never trimmed it. Wanakee's products may or may
not have worked, but she had those Godiva-length locks that made you
think she might be onto something.

And I know this is a site about growing ULTRA BLACK HAIR, and yeah
I'd like longer hair myself, but I wish we could get off this long
hair trip and start focusing on *healthy* hair which I don't believe
are synonymous. It's this quest for long hair that gets us
sidetracked, desperate, and susceptible to scams (remember Rio?) and
myths like cutting the hair to make it grow. Nothing we can do
externally makes our hair grow longer, that comes from the inside.
All we can do is try our best to maintain what comes out. And hey, if
these products have helped some people do that, they should probably
stick with the program.

--- In BlackTresses@yahoogroups.com, "Canhope75" <canhope75@...>
wrote:
>
> ---
> Here's a website that I order products from www.ubhpublications.com
> Wonderful products for black hair.

---
Here's a website that I order products from www.ubhpublications.com
Wonderful products for black hair.


In BlackTresses@yahoogroups.com, "queen_vivacity"
<queen_vivacity@...> wrote:
>
> I don't have to watch the show to know how it goes... you are
> definitely on to something. When my hair was relaxed (and my scalp
> was burnt) I had no problem finding a hairdresser or someone
to "do"
> my hair even in the middle of nowhere in Ontario.
>
> When I began to wear my hair in it's natural state... it was a
> problem. My friend once found a black hairdresser in her town to do
> my hair for her wedding... (another middle of nowhere Ontario
> experience). The woman hemmed and hawed over my hair for hours and
> then asked me if I ever thought about perming it because it's so
> thick. I did my hair for the wedding on my own!
>
> The answer is no! Hairdressers/hairstylists are not trained to deal
> with Afro hair in it's natural state. They are trained to perform
> chemical processes.
>
> Thank God for the hairdresser (who by the way is of East Indian
> descent) who knows how to care for and style my natural hair.
>

I don't have to watch the show to know how it goes... you are
definitely on to something. When my hair was relaxed (and my scalp
was burnt) I had no problem finding a hairdresser or someone to "do"
my hair even in the middle of nowhere in Ontario.

When I began to wear my hair in it's natural state... it was a
problem. My friend once found a black hairdresser in her town to do
my hair for her wedding... (another middle of nowhere Ontario
experience). The woman hemmed and hawed over my hair for hours and
then asked me if I ever thought about perming it because it's so
thick. I did my hair for the wedding on my own!

The answer is no! Hairdressers/hairstylists are not trained to deal
with Afro hair in it's natural state. They are trained to perform
chemical processes.

Thank God for the hairdresser (who by the way is of East Indian
descent) who knows how to care for and style my natural hair.

Hi ladies,
    I need suggestions, badly.  I recently got my hair braided in micro-
braids, using Milky Way wet & wavy hair.  Well....the hair i recieved
is horrible!!!  It matted and tangled the first day!  My hair is
braided up top and out half-way down towards the bottom.  It looks soo
frizzy!  My friend (who braided my hair about 3 months ago) used Milky
Way for her braids and they looked really good, so i dont know if i
just recieved a bad batch or something.  Could anyone suggest a really
good brand of wet and wavy, silky hair, that doesn't frizz or tangle
and holds waves really well??  Thanks!!

Never heard of this show, what station carries it.  I love my naps I don't care
how much publicity, I wouldn't do the straight thingy!!!

Sarah <sarebear@...> wrote:          Does anyone else watch this show on
Bravo? It's a competition
for hairstylists and the finale is tomorrow. So far the challenges
have dealt mainly with styling Caucasian/straight and wavy hair,
but this past week's challenge featured Black women with
natural hair. There was really only one model who had
course/kinky hair (which wasn't even that kinky imo), the others
had losely curled to almost straight hair. For a brief second I
thought maybe they would have to create styles that
complimented each model's texture, but predictably the task was
to straighten the hair. Of course the model with the course/kinky
hair was chosen last, and while the other three got a blow-out
and flat iron, her stylist determined she needed a full-on relaxer. I
thought that was a shame since she was gorgeous with her
natural texture. Does no one press and curl anymore? At least
he didn't get her hair bone straight, but he still burned her in the
process, which I wish had been mentioned during judging.
Chemicals are no joke and like another stylist said, you can
really hurt someone if you don't know what you're doing. Heck,
you can hurt someone even if you *do* know what you're doing.

Every time I watch one of these hair shows and someone's hair
has a hint of a kink they either straighten it out or weave it away,
or both. This leads me to wonder just how much cosmetology
students are taught about Afro-textured hair. Are they told that the
solution is to always straighten or are we left out of the
curriculum altogether? It seems so implausible to me that you
could teach hairstyling and leave out an entire group of people.






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Does anyone else watch this show on Bravo? It's a competition
for hairstylists and the finale is tomorrow. So far the challenges
have dealt mainly with styling Caucasian/straight and wavy hair,
but this past week's challenge featured Black women with
natural hair. There was really only one model who had
course/kinky hair (which wasn't even that kinky imo), the others
had losely curled to almost straight hair. For a brief second I
thought maybe they would have to create styles that
complimented each model's texture, but predictably the task was
to straighten the hair. Of course the model with the course/kinky
hair was chosen last, and while the other three got a blow-out
and flat iron, her stylist determined she needed a full-on relaxer. I
thought that was a shame since she was gorgeous with her
natural texture. Does no one press and curl anymore? At least
he didn't get her hair bone straight, but he still burned her in the
process, which I wish had been mentioned during judging.
Chemicals are no joke and like another stylist said, you can
really hurt someone if you don't know what you're doing. Heck,
you can hurt someone even if you *do* know what you're doing.

Every time I watch one of these hair shows and someone's hair
has a hint of a kink they either straighten it out or weave it away,
or both.  This leads me to wonder just how much cosmetology
students are taught about Afro-textured hair. Are they told that the
solution is to always straighten or are we left out of the
curriculum altogether? It seems so implausible to me that you
could teach hairstyling and leave out an entire group of people.

If at any point, you do want to give locs a go again.  Try plaits instead of
twists.

Sarah <sarebear@...> wrote:          I did try a semi-attempt at locing my
hair a few months ago. I tried
to start out with my usual twists, but after around the third week
they just wouldn't hold anymore. And after I washed them, they
completely fell apart. My hair is just too soft, fine and thin. I know
there are methods to get hard-to-loc hair to loc, but I'm done forcing
my hair to do things it doesn't want to. And I see a lot of people
walking around with textbook perfect, gorgeous locs. I'm not trying to
give them a bad name!

--- In BlackTresses@yahoogroups.com, "T. Yvette" <chaotic1club@...>
wrote:
>
> Why don't you quit trippin and just loc your hair?-








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--- In BlackTresses@yahoogroups.com, Lisa Atkinson <lisa_a_28590@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi,
>   I have been natural for over a year.  It sounds like our hair is
very similar. My tightly coiled hair is about four inches long, but
it shrinks and look as though it is only two inches long.  I love the
versatility of being able to alternate between twist and straight
styles.  When everything fails, I can rely on the good old afro.  I
work as a fundraiser and I am around millionaires who do not seem to
care the least bit about my hair.

And they really shouldn't, I'm so glad that wearing a natural style
hasn't affected your career in the slightest. There probably are
still women and men who are unjustly fired/reprimanded for wearing
their natural hair, but I'm hearing those stories less often. Slowly
but surely, we're redefining the term "professional" as it applies in
the workplace. Hooray for progress!

My hairs too thin to support an afro, so I'm always jealous of those
who've been able to make it work. Yesterday I saw a woman in Target
with a ribbon tied around hers in a kind of afro puff. It was too
cute! I do wonder how do you get it to bounce back after a night of
sleeping on it? Doesn't it get matted and packed down?

>   What does your hair look like after you take the cornrows out?
Maybe, you can create a style from the cornrows.   Keep trying I am
sure that you can come up with a creative style that will work for
you that takes very little time.  Keep us posted.
>
>   Take Care,
>   Lisa

I like the crinkly texture of my hair after I take out the cornrows,
but I can't get rid of the partings completely and too much of my
scalp shows through. Same thing when I take out my twists. Too bad,
because I'd have some kick-butt styles to wear all week long. I'll
just have to keep experimenting.

That's what I've done. Went by a braid shop yesterday for an
appointment and made a down payment. I don't care for extensions in
general but did wear braids years ago (did them myself). They looked
okay but once my hair grew out long enough to do something with, I was
happy to ditch them. Never thought I'd be wearing them again, but here
I am. It'll be my first time wearing synthetic extensions and I'm
wondering if there's any difference in taking care of them versus
human extensions?

--- In BlackTresses@yahoogroups.com, baker T23 <blah0323@...> wrote:
>
> I would suggest to you, to get some braids with or without
extensions to et you through this period.  I know how you feel I get
the same way and will braid it up and then I can deal with it after a
couple of weeks.

I did try a semi-attempt at locing my hair a few months ago. I tried
to start out with my usual twists, but after around the third week
they just wouldn't hold anymore. And after I washed them, they
completely fell apart. My hair is just too soft, fine and thin. I know
there are methods to get hard-to-loc hair to loc, but I'm done forcing
my hair to do things it doesn't want to. And I see a lot of people
walking around with textbook perfect, gorgeous locs. I'm not trying to
give them a bad name!

--- In BlackTresses@yahoogroups.com, "T. Yvette" <chaotic1club@...>
wrote:
>
> Why don't you quit trippin and just loc your hair?-

Hi,
   I have been natural for over a year.  It sounds like our hair is very similar.
My tightly coiled hair is about four inches long, but it shrinks and look as
though it is only two inches long.  I love the versatility of being able to
alternate between twist and straight styles.  When everything fails, I can rely
on the good old afro.  I work as a fundraiser and I am around millionaires who
do not seem to care the least bit about my hair.

   What does your hair look like after you take the cornrows out?  Maybe, you can
create a style from the cornrows.   Keep trying I am sure that you can come up
with a creative style that will work for you that takes very little time.  Keep
us posted.

   Take Care,
   Lisa


Sarah <sarebear@...> wrote:          So tonight is shampoo night, my hair is
wet and I have to do
*something* to it to make it look halfway presentable tomorrow. I
could start twisting now, be done by 1 a.m. *if* I'm lucky, but just
the thought of having my arms up that long is exhausting me. So I
guess it's whip out a few quick cornrows, stick on one of my knit caps
again, and call it a night.

But I can't rely on caps for much longer. Maybe in the winter when in
addition to saving a bad day, it kept my head toasty warm, but the
days are getting hotter and I'd like to look at least somewhat cute
this summer. Only I feel my options are so limited. I'm too tired to
do my hair myself, and too broke to pay someone to do it for me. The
last time I felt like this, I gave up and cut it all off but I really
don't want to do that again. The growout since that cut has been slow
as heck--my hair has stagnated in that awkward "in between" length
where it's too long for some styles and too short for others. Add a
thin hairline and nape to that mix, and it's a wonder I'm able to do
anything with my hair at all. After being natural for so many years
it's frustrating to still be dealing with this "hair thang."






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I would suggest to you, to get some braids with or without extensions to et you
through this period.  I know how you feel I get the same way and will braid it
up and then I can deal with it after a couple of weeks.

Sarah <sarebear@...> wrote:          So tonight is shampoo night, my hair is
wet and I have to do
*something* to it to make it look halfway presentable tomorrow. I
could start twisting now, be done by 1 a.m. *if* I'm lucky, but just
the thought of having my arms up that long is exhausting me. So I
guess it's whip out a few quick cornrows, stick on one of my knit caps
again, and call it a night.

But I can't rely on caps for much longer. Maybe in the winter when in
addition to saving a bad day, it kept my head toasty warm, but the
days are getting hotter and I'd like to look at least somewhat cute
this summer. Only I feel my options are so limited. I'm too tired to
do my hair myself, and too broke to pay someone to do it for me. The
last time I felt like this, I gave up and cut it all off but I really
don't want to do that again. The growout since that cut has been slow
as heck--my hair has stagnated in that awkward "in between" length
where it's too long for some styles and too short for others. Add a
thin hairline and nape to that mix, and it's a wonder I'm able to do
anything with my hair at all. After being natural for so many years
it's frustrating to still be dealing with this "hair thang."






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Why don't you quit trippin and just loc your hair?-

-- In BlackTresses@yahoogroups.com, "Sarah" <sarebear@...> wrote:
>
> So tonight is shampoo night, my hair is wet and I have to do
> *something* to it to make it look halfway presentable tomorrow. I
> could start twisting now, be done by 1 a.m. *if* I'm lucky, but
just
> the thought of having my arms up that long is exhausting me. So I
> guess it's whip out a few quick cornrows, stick on one of my knit
caps
> again, and call it a night.
>
> But I can't rely on caps for much longer. Maybe in the winter when
in
> addition to saving a bad day, it kept my head toasty warm, but the
> days are getting hotter and I'd like to look at least somewhat
cute
> this summer. Only I feel my options are so limited. I'm too tired
to
> do my hair myself, and too broke to pay someone to do it for me.
The
> last time I felt like this, I gave up and cut it all off but I
really
> don't want to do that again. The growout since that cut has been
slow
> as heck--my hair has stagnated in that awkward "in between" length
> where it's too long for some styles and too short for others. Add
a
> thin hairline and nape to that mix, and it's a wonder I'm able to
do
> anything with my hair at all. After being natural for so many
years
> it's frustrating to still be dealing with this "hair thang."
>

So tonight is shampoo night, my hair is wet and I have to do
*something* to it to make it look halfway presentable tomorrow. I
could start twisting now, be done by 1 a.m. *if* I'm lucky, but just
the thought of having my arms up that long is exhausting me. So I
guess it's whip out a few quick cornrows, stick on one of my knit caps
again, and call it a night.

But I can't rely on caps for much longer. Maybe in the winter when in
addition to saving a bad day, it kept my head toasty warm, but the
days are getting hotter and I'd like to look at least somewhat cute
this summer. Only I feel my options are so limited. I'm too tired to
do my hair myself, and too broke to pay someone to do it for me. The
last time I felt like this, I gave up and cut it all off but I really
don't want to do that again. The growout since that cut has been slow
as heck--my hair has stagnated in that awkward "in between" length
where it's too long for some styles and too short for others. Add a
thin hairline and nape to that mix, and it's a wonder I'm able to do
anything with my hair at all. After being natural for so many years
it's frustrating to still be dealing with this "hair thang."

Try Twist and Loc by Jane Carter Solution.  You can buy it at Whole
Foods or I can give you the number to a rep if you're in the Atlanta
area.
--- In BlackTresses@yahoogroups.com, Ryann Deloney <ryann_882@...>
wrote:
>
> Yes, I put it on my hair while its still wet, but since it usually
takes me nearly three hrs to twist my whole head, it is usually dry
towards the end. Elasta QP has a high content of H2O, so even if you
put it on while your hair has dried, the results should still come out
the same.
>
>   -Rhian
>
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