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#8067 From: "Maika" <lachefderouge@...>
Date: Sat Aug 12, 2006 7:48 pm
Subject: double twist locs
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hello,
i'm new here... i had my hair in natural double twist locs since
jan06... but when i'm at home, i try to wash with shampoo and it get
tangled, what is the best way to wash this type of hair?

#8066 From: TAFKAP4D@...
Date: Sat Jul 29, 2006 11:18 am
Subject: Loc question
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Greetings all!

I have had my locs since 1998 and everyday is a learning experience.

Recently, I have begun interviewing and noticed what looks like "picks" on
the back of my shirts (which are soft knits).  I have come to the  conclusion
that it must be my hair rubbing against the shirts.  I  contemplated trimming
them or cutting them but I am now thinking that they just  may be extremely
dry.  Has anyone else experienced this?

What is everyone using to moisturize their locs?  I am also looking  for
conservative styles that add a little oompf to my hair.  My locs graze  the top
of
my butt but they are not all the same length.  Any  suggestions?

Thanks!

Crystal


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#8065 From: "longvonesia" <longvonesia@...>
Date: Fri Jul 28, 2006 4:39 pm
Subject: WHY I LUV MY NATURAL SELF
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Hello I am new to this site and I wanted to share my natural
experience. I used to perm my hair dialy when I was younger. I colored
it and permed it so much that my hair is now naturally curly and soft.
I decided to go natural back in 2003. When I 1st cut my hair I hated it
because I felt ugly and boyish. As time went on I learn to love my
hair. When I decided to loc it I was excited. I kept it loc for over a
uear and decided to perm it again. I wasn't happy with it permed so
this year in February I decided to cut it off. My decision couldn't
have come at a good time. My Journey to self was in play and going
natural has helped me deal with my self alot better. My going natural
has turn into me becoming a vegetarian again, living a celibate life
until I meet the right man, living healthier, an more spiritual and
organic life and I'm smiling everyday just because. I know some of you
are wondering how going natural in my hair has caused so much of this,
well all I can say is it has. I mean I've met people who has said that
some of the same experience has happen to them. My journey is filled
with excitment and joy of finding and discovery more to my NATURAL LIFE.

#8064 From: baker T23 <blah0323@...>
Date: Sun Jul 23, 2006 11:25 pm
Subject: Re: Relax to Natural
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If you do the BC, be sure to put on your roughest, toughest skin, because
criticism is sure to come.  But you can also transition, with braids or two
strand twist.  The choice is yours.  You hair will grow faster with a low
maintenance style, meaning braids or what have you.

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#8063 From: regine roy <queeny1124@...>
Date: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:56 am
Subject: Re: Relax to Natural
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Hi C.Reyal,

   I was at the same place (mentally) that you were at 2 years ago during my
senior year in high school. I had finally realized why I and so many other
sistas perm their hair and as you said in your e-mail it was all for acceptance
(but if I am the same person on the inside, what difference does it make if I
want to rock a fro or locks? Right?). I didn't muster up enough courage to
really start growing it out until my junior year of college. It's been about 2
months and my natural roots have slowly been seeping in.I'm soooo anxious to do
the BC but my roots are about as long as yours (1 1/2 inches) and I think I'm
going to wait until it's about 3/4 inches -- just so that I have a lil somethin
somethin to work with. Good luck with your journey sis!

   -Gigi

karen howard <kissables02@...> wrote:
           I dont think its a good idea to do BC just yet see how much newgrowth
u can retain before u cut ur hair off,Unless its what u really wanna do have a
reason for doin what u do not want anyone else want u to do.

ccodygirl07 <ccodygirl07@...> wrote: When I was younger, people would
always say how beautiful my
hair was.I had the naturally wavy, thick thing going on. Which was
ok but beacuse it was so thick, I quickly grew tired of my mother
putting it plaits everyday.
Along came middle school, by the time I turned 13 I was utterly
sick of the routine and googly-eyed parent comments. So, I decided
to do what everyone else does. Get a relaxer. Which was great. My
hair came out perfectly bone straight and silky. After a few years,
when I turned 15, I even was fortnate enough t get good highlights
that didn't threaten the balance of my hair. When I moved from New
Orleans to the D.C> area, my hair texture only got better because of
the better climate and less humidity.
But now I'm 17 and I know that eventually constantly relaxing my
hair about once every 3 months is going to have its effects. It's
already considerably thinner than my thick wavy days. Which I didn't
mind when I was seeking the sleek, silkiness, but do now. I realize
that we, as black women, make harsh choices to "fit in", and I'm
tired of "fitting in". I ready to do new things. Since I'll be going
off to college soon, I would like a nautral tresses that I can just
wash in the shower and let air dry, maybe oil; not roller wrap, hot
comb and straighten every week or two.
So now, I'm on a quest to get to a natural state, but I need
help. Is it better to cut it up to the 1 1/2 to 2 1/2 inches of
newgrow I already have or cut off a few inches at a time until I'm
completely natural? I was thinking about cutting it up than getting
Kinky twist with extensions, is this a good idea? I'm equally
confused because my mom... well I won't say she disapproves but, she
doesn't want me to cut off my Treses which are past my sholder, but
we had a compromise that I'd wait until after senior pictures just
for her and those reasons,now I'm seeking advise to get to that non-
chemical part of myself. Any information would help.
New GurL on the board,
~C.ReyaL~

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#8062 From: "ccodygirl07" <ccodygirl07@...>
Date: Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:57 pm
Subject: Re: Relax to Natural
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Well not really, I just thought that was the best way to go natural,
it's proably a better idea to let it grow out for a while though.




--- In BlackTresses@yahoogroups.com, karen howard <kissables02@...>
wrote:
>
> I dont think its a good idea to do BC just yet see how much
newgrowth u can retain before u cut ur hair off,Unless its what u
really wanna do have a reason for doin what u do not want anyone
else want u to do.
>
> ccodygirl07 <ccodygirl07@...> wrote:          When I was younger,
people would always say how beautiful my
> hair was.I had the naturally wavy, thick thing going on. Which was
> ok but beacuse it was so thick, I quickly grew tired of my mother
> putting it plaits everyday.
> Along came middle school, by the time I turned 13 I was utterly
> sick of the routine and googly-eyed parent comments. So, I decided
> to do what everyone else does. Get a relaxer. Which was great. My
> hair came out perfectly bone straight and silky. After a few
years,
> when I turned 15, I even was fortnate enough t get good highlights
> that didn't threaten the balance of my hair. When I moved from New
> Orleans to the D.C> area, my hair texture only got better because
of
> the better climate and less humidity.
> But now I'm 17 and I know that eventually constantly relaxing my
> hair about once every 3 months is going to have its effects. It's
> already considerably thinner than my thick wavy days. Which I
didn't
> mind when I was seeking the sleek, silkiness, but do now. I
realize
> that we, as black women, make harsh choices to "fit in", and I'm
> tired of "fitting in". I ready to do new things. Since I'll be
going
> off to college soon, I would like a nautral tresses that I can
just
> wash in the shower and let air dry, maybe oil; not roller wrap,
hot
> comb and straighten every week or two.
> So now, I'm on a quest to get to a natural state, but I need
> help. Is it better to cut it up to the 1 1/2 to 2 1/2 inches of
> newgrow I already have or cut off a few inches at a time until I'm
> completely natural? I was thinking about cutting it up than
getting
> Kinky twist with extensions, is this a good idea? I'm equally
> confused because my mom... well I won't say she disapproves but,
she
> doesn't want me to cut off my Treses which are past my sholder,
but
> we had a compromise that I'd wait until after senior pictures just
> for her and those reasons,now I'm seeking advise to get to that
non-
> chemical part of myself. Any information would help.
> New GurL on the board,
> ~C.ReyaL~
>
>
>
>
>
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#8061 From: karen howard <kissables02@...>
Date: Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:53 am
Subject: Re: Relax to Natural
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I dont think its a good idea to do BC just yet see how much newgrowth u can
retain before u cut ur hair off,Unless its what u really wanna do have a reason
for doin what u do not want anyone else want u to do.

ccodygirl07 <ccodygirl07@...> wrote:          When I was younger, people
would always say how beautiful my
hair was.I had the naturally wavy, thick thing going on. Which was
ok but beacuse it was so thick, I quickly grew tired of my mother
putting it plaits everyday.
Along came middle school, by the time I turned 13 I was utterly
sick of the routine and googly-eyed parent comments. So, I decided
to do what everyone else does. Get a relaxer. Which was great. My
hair came out perfectly bone straight and silky. After a few years,
when I turned 15, I even was fortnate enough t get good highlights
that didn't threaten the balance of my hair. When I moved from New
Orleans to the D.C> area, my hair texture only got better because of
the better climate and less humidity.
But now I'm 17 and I know that eventually constantly relaxing my
hair about once every 3 months is going to have its effects. It's
already considerably thinner than my thick wavy days. Which I didn't
mind when I was seeking the sleek, silkiness, but do now. I realize
that we, as black women, make harsh choices to "fit in", and I'm
tired of "fitting in". I ready to do new things. Since I'll be going
off to college soon, I would like a nautral tresses that I can just
wash in the shower and let air dry, maybe oil; not roller wrap, hot
comb and straighten every week or two.
So now, I'm on a quest to get to a natural state, but I need
help. Is it better to cut it up to the 1 1/2 to 2 1/2 inches of
newgrow I already have or cut off a few inches at a time until I'm
completely natural? I was thinking about cutting it up than getting
Kinky twist with extensions, is this a good idea? I'm equally
confused because my mom... well I won't say she disapproves but, she
doesn't want me to cut off my Treses which are past my sholder, but
we had a compromise that I'd wait until after senior pictures just
for her and those reasons,now I'm seeking advise to get to that non-
chemical part of myself. Any information would help.
New GurL on the board,
~C.ReyaL~





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#8060 From: "ccodygirl07" <ccodygirl07@...>
Date: Wed Jul 19, 2006 8:22 pm
Subject: Relax to Natural
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When I was younger, people would always say how beautiful my
hair was.I had the naturally wavy, thick thing going on. Which was
ok but beacuse it was so thick, I quickly grew tired of my mother
putting it plaits everyday.
    Along came middle school, by the time I turned 13 I was utterly
sick of the routine and googly-eyed parent comments. So, I decided
to do what everyone else does. Get a relaxer. Which was great. My
hair came out perfectly bone straight and silky. After a few years,
when I turned 15, I even was fortnate enough t get good highlights
that didn't threaten the balance of my hair. When I moved from New
Orleans to the D.C> area, my hair texture only got better because of
the better climate and less humidity.
    But now I'm 17 and I know that eventually constantly relaxing my
hair about once every 3 months is going to have its effects. It's
already considerably thinner than my thick wavy days. Which I didn't
mind when I was seeking the sleek, silkiness, but do now. I realize
that we, as black women, make harsh choices to "fit in", and I'm
tired of "fitting in". I ready to do new things. Since I'll be going
off to college soon, I would like a nautral tresses that I can just
wash in the shower and let air dry, maybe oil; not roller wrap, hot
comb and straighten every week or two.
    So now, I'm on a quest to get to a natural state, but I need
help. Is it better to cut it up to the 1 1/2 to 2 1/2 inches of
newgrow I already have or cut off a few inches at a time until I'm
completely natural? I was thinking about cutting it up than getting
Kinky twist with extensions, is this a good idea? I'm equally
confused because my mom... well I won't say she disapproves but, she
doesn't want me to cut off my Treses which are past my sholder, but
we had a compromise that I'd wait until after senior pictures just
for her and those reasons,now I'm seeking advise to get to that non-
chemical part of myself. Any information would help.
                      New GurL on the board,
                                ~C.ReyaL~

#8059 From: "Maisha" <reggismom@...>
Date: Mon Jul 17, 2006 4:37 pm
Subject: What Now?
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I cut my hair to the ng (new growth) and it was straight as an
arrow, okay I gave it a little time so now ONE side of my hair has
some curl definition and the top and other side...yeh, still no-go.
I mean I can get it to curl or whatever it is you want to call what
it does, I don't know if if CURL would be the right word...anyway. I
have to put in curling mousse and conditioner and curl wax along
with paul mitchell to get it to do SOMETHING, but I don't want to do
this, i mean it kinda defeats the purpose of going natural right. I
know you are probably saying, dont put chemicals in it just accept
your true beauty, but honey, if you seen this mess you'd say, WHAT
THE !@#$  !!!!. I HAVE TRIEAD ALL KINDS OF STUFF, CASTOR OIL, OLIVE
OIL, GLYCERIN, DEEP CONDITIONER, LEAVE IN CONDITIONER, NO POO, EGG.
THE LIST GOES ON AND ON AND ON. MY HAIR HAS BEEN THROUGH THE RINGER.
but if you see me right now this stuff is just as soft looking
and "curly" but you touch it honey and you are liable to lose a
finger, uh huh honey, cut it right off. hard like a scrubbing pad
all this mess i got in it. any way any pointers would be greatly
appreciated.
Thank you in advance
my

#8058 From: "kdp_productions_inc" <kimberly_richardson@...>
Date: Mon Jul 17, 2006 5:08 am
Subject: Up-And-Coming Braider Available in Washington, DC Area
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mother, I wanted to inform those of you in/around the DC Metro Area of a
new braider in town - MY DAUGHTER!







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#8057 From: "Mz. Baby Girl" <mz_baby_girl@...>
Date: Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:18 pm
Subject: Re: Anyone Else?
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That is funny! lol

I didnt have that expoerience, but my hair never did get
really straight even when I was relaxing it. I mean, it got
straight at the relaxer was applied, but after that day it
was over! I liked the texture that creeped back in, but it
did make it hard to deal with having two textures...the
straight ends and the roots. I ALWAYS looked like I needed
a touch up *shrug*

I guess I should have dreaded my hair from way back
when...it was telling me what it wanted to do but I was not
listening!

Michelle

--- iroc314 <iroc314@...> wrote:

> okay this is a combination between weird and funny.is
> there any one
> else out there who's been natural for 2 or more years
> like myself that
> wanted to straighten their hair for a special event or
> something only
> to have their hair actually fight the straightening comb?
> I am serious
> people. once a professional straightened it and my
> natural hair still
> came out of it the champion  because either they had just
> as much of a
> fight as  i did and lost,or the straightening wouldn't
> even make it to
> see the next day. i was so shocked i couldn't help but
> laugh at it.
> anyone else got hair that refuses to be straightened??
>
>

#8056 From: "iroc314" <iroc314@...>
Date: Sun Jun 18, 2006 11:39 pm
Subject: Anyone Else?
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okay this is a combination between weird and funny.is there any one
else out there who's been natural for 2 or more years like myself that
wanted to straighten their hair for a special event or something only
to have their hair actually fight the straightening comb? I am serious
people. once a professional straightened it and my natural hair still
came out of it the champion  because either they had just as much of a
fight as  i did and lost,or the straightening wouldn't even make it to
see the next day. i was so shocked i couldn't help but  laugh at it.
anyone else got hair that refuses to be straightened??

#8055 From: Chavon Riggins <chavonriggins@...>
Date: Sat Jun 3, 2006 2:07 pm
Subject: Re: Help me please!!!
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Hi Mila,
   I 100% know what you are going through. I have been allowing my relaxer to
grow out myself for two years now and sometimes I don't know how I made it this
long. To give you some ideas from my experience I started by washing and blowing
drying then flat ironing and that lasted for about 1 year. Then I went a got
some kinky twist for 3 months for low maintanence and growth (never again!). My
hair tangled and knotted up so bad I was nearly in tears! However, I now wash,
carrot oil (cannot do without!) and braid into sections to dry, then flatiron
with titanium irons (a miracle electronic piece!). That it is titanium the
temperture goes very high and doesn't damage hair (life saver!). Or sometimes I
have someone cornroll my hair to the back and where that for 2-3 days then undo
them for a whole new hairdo (where it out!). I love this because it allows for a
nice crinkle look!
   When I sleep at night I use a satin pillow case along with a satin scarf. I
also can not do without my carrot oil it shines, replenish damage, and softens
the hair. I hope this help along the way some!

   Peace!
   Chavon

elmilangroup <mila@...> wrote:
   Ok.  I'm trying to repent to save my hair.  I want to stop using heat
and chemical relaxers.  Only thing is I want my hair straight!  At
least I want the option to have it straight.  Can someone give me some
wrapping and/or scarf using how to's?  Pictures would be great as I
have no idea how to do any of this!

Also, my hair is breaking big time.  If anyone has any advice for how
to keep the hair I have on my head right now from completely breaking
off please help!!!!  I don't want to start over!

P.S. I already use a Satin Pillow Case.
See my photo album in the galleries section for current hair and weave
pix.

Thank so much!
Mila








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#8054 From: "elmilangroup" <mila@...>
Date: Thu Jun 1, 2006 6:23 pm
Subject: Help me please!!!
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Ok.  I'm trying to repent to save my hair.  I want to stop using heat
and chemical relaxers.  Only thing is I want my hair straight!  At
least I want the option to have it straight.  Can someone give me some
wrapping and/or scarf using how to's?  Pictures would be great as I
have no idea how to do any of this!

Also, my hair is breaking big time.  If anyone has any advice for how
to keep the hair I have on my head right now from completely breaking
off please help!!!!  I don't want to start over!

P.S. I already use a Satin Pillow Case.
See my photo album in the galleries section for current hair and weave
pix.

Thank so much!
Mila

#8053 From: Crickett Mason <masoncrickett@...>
Date: Wed May 31, 2006 9:42 pm
Subject: Re: undeniably enamored with my natural queens
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Hi Sean,

Yeah, yeah, yeag, yeag, yeah.  This is a very pleasing and soothing comment to
us.  Thanks for sharing.

Crickett

mchele_nzuri <mchele_nzuri@...> wrote:    i wanted, NO, i felt it my duty
as an african american male to
  applaud you ladies for your decisions to start "loving" your
  congenital selves.  i know it's not said enough by my ethnic/gender
  group about our female counterparts, but you are beautiful all on
  your own.

  alittle about me...  i was born in the d.c. area, but raised in the
  conservative abyss of the south.  as you can imagine, i grew up with
  a strong conventional image of beauty being european-like.  my
  mother, sister, grandmother, aunts, nieces, and any other female
  (from what i remember) all felt the need to disfigure themselves
  with caustic hair-straightening chemicals and
  neurotoxic/carcinogenic skin lightening products.  actually, there
  were even a few males in my life that used certain absurd products
  to make their hair/skin "better." at the time, i understood this to
  be the price one had to pay to become "successful" and make
  themselves attractive.

  then, reality struck...  after four years of college and the point
  at which we are supposed to "know ourselves," i felt unsatisfied
  with the results.  i decided i wanted to leave the country and
  experience the world. so, i left "southern comfort" for "african
  discomfort."  i returned a few months ago from tanzania where i
  spent 27 months with new convictions and a decidedly different view
  about the level of comfort i feel for both areas.  while in
  tanzania, i began to notice the natural beauty of the black female
  (and male) and began loving myself for who and what i am for the
  first time in my life.

  coming "back" to america...  i realized that my own hair was
  beautiful and started growing it out while in tanzania. gone are the
  days where i felt i needed "soul glo" to be attractive (i actually
  never used any texturizer/curl formulas, but always thought that my
  hair would look better if i had) or that my hair needed to be cut
  low to bring out the "wave" and not the kink of longer hair. i
  actually returned resenting (almost to the point of hating) black
  females who would disrespect their hair-itage with relaxers or think
  they were more attractive because their skin was lighter than the
  next.  then, my anger plateaued and began decreasing because i began
  to understand again why they did, but it wasn't as i thought in the
  past that they needed to for success and attain certain beauty
  standards. i began understanding it was because they were blind to
  their own beauty and unfortunately and frankly did not love
  themselves.

  would love to state and explain more of my opinions, but i am sure
  you are getting tired of my rants.  so, i will just end by
  saying "KEEP LOVING YOURSELVES, MY NATURAL QUEENS!"

  undeniably enamored,

  sean









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#8052 From: Phyllis Titus <alllocdup@...>
Date: Sun May 28, 2006 6:32 am
Subject: Re: undeniably enamored with my natural queens
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Sean,

   WOW!!!!!!!!!   That was great the read about your evolution into true self
love.  As a Sista who spent time caught up in the hype I'm so glad to be back in
my natural state.   I love my locs and feel my hair is in the best condition
it's ever been in.  I hope one day my daughters will have the courage to want to
go back.   I just wanted to say that it's good to hear a brother make such a
bold statement.  Take care and pass the message on.

   Phyllis
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mchele_nzuri <mchele_nzuri@...> wrote:
   i wanted, NO, i felt it my duty as an african american male to
applaud you ladies for your decisions to start "loving" your
congenital selves.  i know it's not said enough by my ethnic/gender
group about our female counterparts, but you are beautiful all on
your own.

alittle about me...  i was born in the d.c. area, but raised in the
conservative abyss of the south.  as you can imagine, i grew up with
a strong conventional image of beauty being european-like.  my
mother, sister, grandmother, aunts, nieces, and any other female
(from what i remember) all felt the need to disfigure themselves
with caustic hair-straightening chemicals and
neurotoxic/carcinogenic skin lightening products.  actually, there
were even a few males in my life that used certain absurd products
to make their hair/skin "better." at the time, i understood this to
be the price one had to pay to become "successful" and make
themselves attractive.

then, reality struck...  after four years of college and the point
at which we are supposed to "know ourselves," i felt unsatisfied
with the results.  i decided i wanted to leave the country and
experience the world. so, i left "southern comfort" for "african
discomfort."  i returned a few months ago from tanzania where i
spent 27 months with new convictions and a decidedly different view
about the level of comfort i feel for both areas.  while in
tanzania, i began to notice the natural beauty of the black female
(and male) and began loving myself for who and what i am for the
first time in my life.

coming "back" to america...  i realized that my own hair was
beautiful and started growing it out while in tanzania. gone are the
days where i felt i needed "soul glo" to be attractive (i actually
never used any texturizer/curl formulas, but always thought that my
hair would look better if i had) or that my hair needed to be cut
low to bring out the "wave" and not the kink of longer hair. i
actually returned resenting (almost to the point of hating) black
females who would disrespect their hair-itage with relaxers or think
they were more attractive because their skin was lighter than the
next.  then, my anger plateaued and began decreasing because i began
to understand again why they did, but it wasn't as i thought in the
past that they needed to for success and attain certain beauty
standards. i began understanding it was because they were blind to
their own beauty and unfortunately and frankly did not love
themselves.

would love to state and explain more of my opinions, but i am sure
you are getting tired of my rants.  so, i will just end by
saying "KEEP LOVING YOURSELVES, MY NATURAL QUEENS!"

undeniably enamored,

sean









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#8051 From: "Mz. Baby Girl" <mz_baby_girl@...>
Date: Sat May 27, 2006 7:33 pm
Subject: Re: undeniably enamored with my natural queens
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your post was anything but a RANT! it was a very insightful
post, one that shows a male point of view. men tend to be
more reticent than women in these discussion groups, so it
is not often that we get a male point of view about
anything!

thanks for sharing, i for one enjoyed your post. for me
enjoyment is not about agreeing with every single word...

Michelle

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> i wanted, NO, i felt it my duty as an african american
> male to
> applaud you ladies for your decisions to start "loving"
> your
> congenital selves.

#8050 From: "mchele_nzuri" <mchele_nzuri@...>
Date: Fri May 26, 2006 1:15 am
Subject: undeniably enamored with my natural queens
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i wanted, NO, i felt it my duty as an african american male to
applaud you ladies for your decisions to start "loving" your
congenital selves.  i know it's not said enough by my ethnic/gender
group about our female counterparts, but you are beautiful all on
your own.

alittle about me...  i was born in the d.c. area, but raised in the
conservative abyss of the south.  as you can imagine, i grew up with
a strong conventional image of beauty being european-like.  my
mother, sister, grandmother, aunts, nieces, and any other female
(from what i remember) all felt the need to disfigure themselves
with caustic hair-straightening chemicals and
neurotoxic/carcinogenic skin lightening products.  actually, there
were even a few males in my life that used certain absurd products
to make their hair/skin "better." at the time, i understood this to
be the price one had to pay to become "successful" and make
themselves attractive.

then, reality struck...  after four years of college and the point
at which we are supposed to "know ourselves," i felt unsatisfied
with the results.  i decided i wanted to leave the country and
experience the world. so, i left "southern comfort" for "african
discomfort."  i returned a few months ago from tanzania where i
spent 27 months with new convictions and a decidedly different view
about the level of comfort i feel for both areas.  while in
tanzania, i began to notice the natural beauty of the black female
(and male) and began loving myself for who and what i am for the
first time in my life.

coming "back" to america...  i realized that my own hair was
beautiful and started growing it out while in tanzania. gone are the
days where i felt i needed "soul glo" to be attractive (i actually
never used any texturizer/curl formulas, but always thought that my
hair would look better if i had) or that my hair needed to be cut
low to bring out the "wave" and not the kink of longer hair. i
actually returned resenting (almost to the point of hating) black
females who would disrespect their hair-itage with relaxers or think
they were more attractive because their skin was lighter than the
next.  then, my anger plateaued and began decreasing because i began
to understand again why they did, but it wasn't as i thought in the
past that they needed to for success and attain certain beauty
standards. i began understanding it was because they were blind to
their own beauty and unfortunately and frankly did not love
themselves.

would love to state and explain more of my opinions, but i am sure
you are getting tired of my rants.  so, i will just end by
saying "KEEP LOVING YOURSELVES, MY NATURAL QUEENS!"

undeniably enamored,

sean

#8049 From: Kawgirl Kawasaki <kawgirl96@...>
Date: Wed May 24, 2006 8:48 pm
Subject: Re: Twisted Afro
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Well,

It looks like you are out for a test run...;DD

Try twisting you hair.  Try it dry anc check the
results.  If you don't like it twist it when your hair
is damp.  You gotta try it at some point....

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> Message 1
>     From: "andy dejean" choumyco@...
>     Date: Tue May 23, 2006 4:03pm(PDT)
> Subject: Re: Twisted Afro
>
> Not yet, I want more hair.  I have about an inch and
> a half and going for three.  I know that I will have
> to twist it but it looks like his hair was twisted
> and twisted out.  Someone suggested twisted out comb
> coils, so I'm just not exactly sure on how to
> achieve  the look.
>
>   Thanks.
>
> Kawgirl Kawasaki <kawgirl96@...> wrote:
>
> Have you tried twisting your own hair ?

#8048 From: andy dejean <choumyco@...>
Date: Mon May 22, 2006 1:40 pm
Subject: Re: Twisted Afro
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Not yet, I want more hair.  I have about an inch and a half and going for three.
I know that I will have to twist it but it looks like his hair was twisted and
twisted out.  Someone suggested twisted out comb coils, so I'm just not exactly
sure on how to achieve  the look.

   Thanks.

Kawgirl Kawasaki <kawgirl96@...> wrote:

Have you tried twisting your own hair ?



>
> Message 1
>     From: "andy dejean" choumyco@...
>     Date: Wed May 17, 2006 5:06am(PDT)
> Subject: Re: Twisted Afro
>
> See the link below, but remember I just want the
> hairdo not smile nor the mustach.
>   Thanks for inquiring.
>
>   Andy
>
>
>
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#8047 From: Kawgirl Kawasaki <kawgirl96@...>
Date: Thu May 18, 2006 3:06 pm
Subject: Re: Twisted Afro
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Have you tried twisting your own hair ?



>
> Message 1
>     From: "andy dejean" choumyco@...
>     Date: Wed May 17, 2006 5:06am(PDT)
> Subject: Re: Twisted Afro
>
> See the link below, but remember I just want the
> hairdo not smile nor the mustach.
>   Thanks for inquiring.
>
>   Andy
>
>
>
http://www.idolonfox.com/contestants/gedeon_mckinney/

#8046 From: andy dejean <choumyco@...>
Date: Tue May 16, 2006 2:39 pm
Subject: Re: Twisted Afro
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See the link below, but remember I just want the hairdo not smile nor the
mustach.
   Thanks for inquiring.

   Andy

   http://www.idolonfox.com/contestants/gedeon_mckinney/



Kawgirl Kawasaki <kawgirl96@...> wrote:
   Can you point me to a picture of here ?

> Does anyone have any suggestions on how to achieve
> the afro twisted
> look that Gideon McKenney from American Idol '06
> had. Any suggestions
> will help, even if I have to go a natural salon.  I
> have about a inch
> and a half of hair now and plan on gaining another
> in and half in the
> months to come. So if you know something that my
> help please write on.
>
> Thank you.

#8045 From: Kawgirl Kawasaki <kawgirl96@...>
Date: Mon May 15, 2006 2:35 pm
Subject: Re: Twisted Afro
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Can you point me to a picture of here ?

> Does anyone have any suggestions on how to achieve
> the afro twisted
> look that Gideon McKenney from American Idol '06
> had. Any suggestions
> will help, even if I have to go a natural salon.  I
> have about a inch
> and a half of hair now and plan on gaining another
> in and half in the
> months to come. So if you know something that my
> help please write on.
>
> Thank you.

#8044 From: KC Kelly <afrokimono@...>
Date: Mon May 15, 2006 2:58 pm
Subject: Re: Twisted Afro
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I believe he had comb coils and twists-outs.

   I have tried the coils on my own and would suggest a professional who can
stand over your head to do it.

   The twist out is merely twisting or braiding your hair while it is wet (or
damp), allowing it to dry, then releasing the braids or twists.

   Hope this helps.


choumyco <choumyco@...> wrote:
   Does anyone have any suggestions on how to achieve the afro twisted
look that Gideon McKenney from American Idol '06 had. Any suggestions
will help, even if I have to go a natural salon.  I have about a inch
and a half of hair now and plan on gaining another in and half in the
months to come. So if you know something that my help please write on.

Thank you.



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#8043 From: "choumyco" <choumyco@...>
Date: Wed May 10, 2006 4:35 pm
Subject: Twisted Afro
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Does anyone have any suggestions on how to achieve the afro twisted
look that Gideon McKenney from American Idol '06 had. Any suggestions
will help, even if I have to go a natural salon.  I have about a inch
and a half of hair now and plan on gaining another in and half in the
months to come. So if you know something that my help please write on.

Thank you.

#8042 From: Ryann Deloney <ryann_882@...>
Date: Sun Apr 30, 2006 2:42 am
Subject: Re: What to do with my Natural Hair?
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For double stand twists, I suggest using Elasta QP power gel...it doesnt flake,
it holds, and it gives your twists shine. No other twist gel has worked for me,
all other make my hair look dull and frizzy, rather than shiny and kinky.

#8041 From: amanda feese <mandyface@...>
Date: Tue Apr 25, 2006 2:00 pm
Subject: Re: What to do with my Natural Hair?
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Hi Mpookey,

   Im in the process of setting up a website. In the interim we can work
something out. I'll send you a sample jar (FOC-free of charge) but if you dont
mind- you can pay for the Delivery costs (through paypal)- so choose between
UPS, or normal post.

   Cheers



MPOOKEY@... wrote:
   do you have a web site where your are selling your product? milkfat/ shea
butter. very interested

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Subject: [BlackTresses] Re: What to do with my Natural Hair?


In response to your request for help to hydrate your hair, I strongly
recommend a mixture of Shea Butter and milk fat(sorry i couldnt get
the literal english translation whether its milk fat or butter fat
but its straight from the cow (unprocessed)). If you could get these
in their natural states, this would be great e.g getting the
buttermilk froma dairy. For me in Nigeria, im lucky because the shea
butter tree grows in abundance so access to it in its unprocessed
state is easy peesy, so is milk fat (or is it butter milk).

Anyway, just mix the two together in a jar and just part your hair
into thin sections and run it through from the roots to the end. Its
great for natural, permed and transitioning hair. Olive oil just gets
soaked in my hair and doesnt moisturise it at all, so i only still
use it for its nutrients, but the shea mixture has improved
texture,given sheen & softness, grown my hair and gotten me loads of
compliments from people. I've even started selling a few jars
myself :)-According to the author of Rich Dad, Poor Dad, cant survive
solely on a salary).

Hope the mixture works for you too.




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#8040 From: Shun Carter <shunshyne77@...>
Date: Tue Apr 25, 2006 1:21 pm
Subject: Re: An Invitation From Yahoo Group I Got Good Hair
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how can I get into this group??

spaericka <spaericka@...> wrote:  Please accept our invitation to check
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The purpose of our group is to connect natural hair and nail
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NATURAL HAIR AND NAIL PROFESSIONALS PLEASE JOIN OUR GROUP.









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#8039 From: Ryann Deloney <ryann_882@...>
Date: Mon Apr 24, 2006 9:57 pm
Subject: Re: I'm about ready to throw in the towel
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I would suggest that you return to using hair grease then, if that works for
you. Just remember that drinking water contributes more moisture to our hair
than just applying some oil, conditioner, afro sheen, or whatever to our hair
alone. If you drink sufficient amount of water everyday (6-8 glasses) then the
hair grease will simply lock in the moisture, as healthier, H2O-nurtured new
growth begins to come in.

   Best Wishes!



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> I've been natural for almost 2 years now and i am almost convinced
> that I need to go back to hair grease. Before anyone writes me
back
> with all that "it's not good for you" and "it clogs your pores
jazz"
> let me tell you that i've heard it, been there, and done that.
right
> now, I'm concerned about moisture and it looks as if the coating
> characteristic of mineral oil and petroleum based products is all
> that is going to work for me. I've tried shea butter, coconut oil,
> tea tree oil, and the list goes on including olive oil. I've read
> several posts, been to several websites, and tried recipes and
lots
> of suggestions. I didn't say i mixed the above ingredients
together
> so don't write back telling me i'm using them the wrong way. just
> writing to say what i've tried. not that any of those things are
> good, it's just that my hair soaks up moisture like a sponge. i
need
> something that will stay with me. the aforementioned things don't
> keep my hair moist beyond 24 hours and i can't afford to keep
going
> through bottles of essential oils just to keep my hair moist every
> day. i've been told that grease isn't moisture, water is moisture.
> well, tried that too. i'm tired of losing significant amounts of
> hair and having to struggle with the severe thickness, dryness,
and
> coarseness of my hair because of it's inability to retain
moisture.
> for every six inches it grows, i loose about three. i'm ready for
my
> long natural hair. anyone have any suggestions?
>

#8038 From: amanda feese <mandyface@...>
Date: Mon Apr 24, 2006 1:07 pm
Subject: Re: Re: What to do with my Natural Hair?
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Asya,

   thanks for the inspiration. Hope it works for your hair.

Asya Mu'Min <smoky022378@...> wrote:
   You are SO awesome! I am going to try that. I don't know if I can get
unprocessed milk fat, but I will try. Thank you so much.

And, you should make a profit wherever you can. :-) The smallest things
can turn into big things when they help enough people.

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