"The tree remembers, the ax forgets."
-African proverb

So much is suffering in humanity because of hurtful, mechanical childbirth. This list is a safe place for women to talk about how deep their pain is- without hearing "at least you have a healthy baby".

On this list is swearing, deep rage, docotor-bashing, midwife-bashing- all in the hopes of creating better births for ourselves. Everyone is welcome- but a new member must write the moderators and say why she wants to join the list. This introductory message will then be forwarded to all other members of the list.