Whole Foods Haters Use Flash Mob Tactic

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http://www.afs-foil.com/pages/product_listings.asp, makes an
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From: Barbara Wilkie <wilworks@...>
Date: Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:32 pm
Subject: Re: Fw: Environmental Health Network Oct 3 Support Group Meeting - Please RSVP

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Somehow or other I missed Marsha's post, but I'm glad I caught up with it via Betty's. I keep reading about greening one's diet and how that helps tremendously with diabetes . . . and, if I remember correctly, I've even provided a link to Dr. Young's PHLiving site. Congratulations Marsha!

I was just going through some of my old notes to see how I fared when actively greening my diet a couple years ago. The one thing I learned at the time, was that for this body, I needed to eat some meat. When not eating any meat, I'd dump lots of protein . . . the only thing I could think is that because I cannot eat beans, or dairy because of kidney failure, I wasn't getting enough protein without at least a little meat in my diet. Beans and protein put too much phosphorous into my blood then that leaches the calcium out . . . Life is a different game when trying to live with kidney failure. Sooooo, I try to compromise. A little meat, and a little greening . . . here recently I began drinking Chlorophyll and noticed a jump from 6.2 to 6.9 in my hemoglobin. But since I can't have too much potassium and magnesium in my blood either -- that adversely affects the heart -- I've got to watch my intake of greens and Chlorophyll. And so it goes . . .

I hope to make it to Saturday's meeting, but life is ups and downs right now for Bill, so I'll have to wait until the very day to see if I can get there.

hugs,

barb

-Marsha,

This is really great news. I'm an advocate of eating a lot of raw and sprouted food. Although I don't eat exclusively raw. I do try to make half of my diet raw, including veggie/fruit smoothies, etc. A couple of good sites for raw food and sprouting are www.goneraw.com and www.sproutpeople.com. I also got a lot of green smoothie recipes off the internet. You don't need a fancy Vita Mix machine to make them, although it is helpful to have a food processor to break up the green stuff. Then just plop everything into a regular blender. Yum!

Betty

-- In BayCanaryGrapevine@yahoogroups.com, "Marsha Miliman" <mmiliman@...> wrote:
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> I am planning on attending ths meeting at EHN next Saturday, 10/3. I will be
> happy to bring raw food (organic carrots and celery) but with a non-raw
> hummus because I don't have the equipment to make raw hummus. I can't given
> up protein from chicken, fish, and beans (cooked), but since viewing Gabriel
> and other's websites on raw food last week, I have lost 5 pounds and dropped
> my fasting blood sugar by 100 points! (Yes, it HAS been that high, and I
> have a long way to go yet). This is without insulin. Since I know that I
> won't succeed going "cold turkey" off sugar, I allow mself some fruits, and
> even applesauce, as a special treat. I can't digest all the seeds and nuts
> promoted in a raw diet, but use walnuts in salads and cooking. If I hadn't
> eaten so many peanuts last week, I probably would have lost 3 more pounds! I
> managed to avoid sugar binges on the killer fabric softener nights, which
> was a major hurdle! See ya'll next Saturday, I hope.
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> Marsha
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> From: BayCanaryGrapevine@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:BayCanaryGrapevine@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of isis feral
> Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 9:24 AM
> To: baycanarygrapevine@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [BayCanaryGrapevine] Fw: Environmental Health Network Oct 3 Support
> Group Meeting - Please RSVP
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> --- On Sun, 9/27/09, Louise Yost <louyo@...> wrote:
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> Dear Friends,
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> I recently went to see a new documentary by a local filmmaker called "Simply
> Raw: Reversing Diabetes in 30 Days". This film chronicles the work of
> Gabriel Cousens, M.D. who is a live food medical authority, and who has an

> institute in Patagonia, Arizona. The film followed 6 diabetics who ate raw
> food only for 30 days at Dr. Cousens' institute. One person dropped out,
> and 4 of the remaining 5 got off insulin altogether.. The 5th person
> reduced his insulin by three fourths. A most revoluntionary concept!
> Eating raw food is, of course, healthy for everyone. So I invited Michael
> Bedar who studied with Dr Cousens to come do a raw foods demonstration for
> our Oct 3 meeting. Michael now lives in San Rafael and is giving classes in
> raw food preparation, and is promoting the film wherever he can. He is so
> gung ho! So Michael will demonstrate how to do sprouting, and how to make
> raw food salad dressings. I sure hope you can join us on Oct 3 from
> 4-6:15pm for this delightful offering. We will have our support group from
> 4-5pm, and the demo from 5-6:15pm, with potluck following. It would be nice
> if everyone brought raw food to the potluck so we can check out this healthy
> kind of diet. But you don't have to if that doesn't work for you.
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> PLEASE RSVP BY OCTOBER 1. I have the feeling that this will be a very
> popular meeting, so I need to know how many folks want to come so we can set
> up the meeting room to accomodate a crowd.
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> See Michael's bio below:
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> Michael Aaron Bedar is a film artist, teacher of live-food nutrition, and
> supporter of spiritual life. He puts them together to inspire and the
> choice and know-how to heal and be fully alive. Bedar completed the Live
> Food and Plant-Sourced Nutrition Master's Intensive at the Tree of Life
> Rejuvenation Center, and was the direct assistant, as well as a student, to
> Gabriel Cousens, M.D., a worldwide live food medical authority and spiritual
> teacher, from 2004 to 2009. Michael began filmmaking in 1999 with the
> documentary Ecoparque. After two other films, he co-founded and began to
> organize the team that would produce Simply Raw: Reversing Diabetes in 30
> Days. Today, Michael is a Development Officer with the Joy of Learning
> Centers, a 501(c)3 located in San Rafael, California, whose mission is to
> transform the negativity in human energies into a powerful force for
> holistic physical and psychoogical healing, organic soils and foods, and
> local prosperity. Bedar is being supported by the Joy of Learning Centers
> to build the Movement to Reverse Diabetes Naturally throughout the Bay Area
> through partnerships that present transformative film screenings, spiritual
> support, and live-food lifestyle classes.
> www.environ-mentalproductions.com
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> I would also like to screen Michael's "Simply Raw" film in the near future
> here at Ecology House. Please let me know if you are interested in that.
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> I look forward to seeing everyone soon!
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> really ripely rawly,
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> Louise
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IF you want to live healthier lives, live as if you already had MCS!

Poisoned Profits - The Toxic Assault on Our Children

http://www.poisonedprofits.com/book.php

Toxic Beauty: How Cosmetics and Personal Care Products Endanger Your Health
. . . And What You Can Do about It

http://www.preventcancer.com/documents/ToxicBeauty_pressrelease_FINAL.pdf

What Makes Chemicals Poisonous

http://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/chemicals/poisonou.html

Weed killer kills human cells.
Study intensifies debate over 'inert' ingredients.

http://www.environmentalhealthnews.org/ehs/news/roundup-weed-killer-is-toxic-to-human-cells.-study-intensifies-debate-over-inert-ingredients

Partial) List of Products for Chemically Sensitive People

and their Allies/Friends; compiled by Diana Lion *
http://www.bpf.org/html/whats_now/FFproducts.html

FMA Fragrance Ingredient Database

April 16, 2007

http://www.epa.gov/opprd001/inerts/fmaingredient.pdf

Quick Facts on EWG's Skin Deep

http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/about.php

More than 12% of Population Reports Extreme Sensitivity to Low Levels of Common Chemicals

"Of those reporting such hypersensitivity, 13.5% (or 1.8% of the entire sample)

reported losing their jobs because of it."

I took early retirement, yet feel as though I lost my job!

Why? Toxic fragrances polluted my former workplace. -bw

http://www.ehponline.org/press/12pop.html

Fragranced consumer products and undisclosed ingredients

Anne C. Steinemann

http://www.ce.washington.edu/people/faculty/bios/documents/Steinemann2008.pdf

Women warned not to wear perfume during pregnancy

http://news.scotsman.com/health/Women-warned--not-to.4443471.jp

GREEN products, according to the

US Dept. of the Interior, "MUST NOT contain

petrochemical-derived fragrances."

http://www.doi.gov/greening/sustain/trad.html

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http://users.lmi.net/~wilworks/ehnlinx/kidneybw.htm

Stop the poisoning! Let's all also work for safer cosmetics, flavors,

fragrances, building materials, pest control, and no water fluoridation. Etc.

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#2179

From: "Betty" <desertfoxie@...>
Date: Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:18 pm
Subject: Re: Fw: Environmental Health Network Oct 3 Support Group Meeting - Please RSVP

desertfoxie

Whole Foods Haters Use Flash Mob Tactic

By LORI PREUITT

Updated 9:01 AM PDT, Mon, Sep 28, 2009

Whole Foods may seem like an unlikely target of liberals, but it is one of the current cause-celebs round these parts.

Ever since the grocery store's CEO wrote a Wall Street Journal editorial that opposed President Barack Obama's health care reform bill, they have tried everything to get back at one John Mackey.

If you've been to a Whole Foods lately you can attest to the fact that the call for a boycott isn't working. The parking lots remain packed and the lines are still long.

This weekend in Oakland people who believe health care is a right tried a new and quite entertaining tactic that used a "flash mob-like" feature.

Whole Foods Get Flash Mobbed

WATCH

Whole Foods Get Flash Mobbed

Protesters picked a store in Oakland, a song and a group of clumsy singer/dancers to pull it off.

They walked in the store separately, band members and all, and spread out amongst the aisles.

After pretending to shop for a few minutes, the mob made their way to the one spot in the store that had room for a dancing number. They all gathered right there in front of the refrigerated guac and salsa, singing their hearts out to the tune of Tony Basil's "Hey Mickey." They changed the lyrics to "Hey Mackey."

A bewildered security guard had only his cell phone to fight against the intrusion. After quickly dialing, the poor guy just had to take it. The group got off not one, but two reditions of their protest song before going outside for more singing on the sidewalk.

"We believe that every human being has a right to health care, and most Americans agree. But conservatives have dominated this debate because they're willing to be loud.. So it's time for us to make some noise of our own, and stand up for health care that we can afford even if we're not CEOs like Mackey," Sarah Norr said.

They said they were inspired by their conservative counterparts who have been dramatizing the health care debate.

No one was arrested and organizers say they will do it again. They just won't say where or when.

First Published: Sep 27, 2009 3:17 PM PDT

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From: "Constance J. Barker" <cjbarker@...>
Date: Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:22 pm
Subject: Sad news

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Hi everyone -
it is my sad duty to relay the following meassage from Michael and Cyndi
Norwitz:

"By late Sunday night, our baby had moved maybe twice that day, around 11:AM and
6:PM. After Kol Nidre services at our synagogue, we phoned the midwife who
suggested we go immediately to the ER. Cyndi had an emergency c-sec...tion, but
the baby didn�t make it. Our rabbi was able to come and give him a naming
ceremony: William Gabriel Norwitz.�"

The c-section was at about 2am this morning; the baby died at at around 6am. He
had congenital lubg problems and likely would not have been viable in any case.

Since Cyndi had a c-section,  she will be hospitalized for the next few days to
recover. She's in a lot of pain (physical and otherwise). She's at Sutter Santa
Rosa, room 316, ph# 707-576-4581 and would welcome visitors (provided you can do
so without getting sick yourself from the innevitable hospital exposures) and/
or help looking after Miriam. There will be a funeral service sometime soon.

-Connie
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

#2173

From: isis feral <isisferal@...>
Date: Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:39 am
Subject: Fw: Public Comment on LBAM Draft PEIR by Don't Spray California

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LBAM-DPEIRcomments092809.pdf

Our comments on the LBAM Draft PEIR, pasted below, as well as attached in more legible format.

From: isis feral <isisferal@...>
Subject: Public Comment on LBAM Draft PEIR by Don't Spray California
To: jrains@..., LBAM_EIR@...
Cc: EIR@..., beneficialbug@...
Date: Monday, September 28, 2009, 4:21 AM

Public comments of East Bay Pesticide Alert/Don't Spray California for the Draft Programmatic Environmental Impact Report for the Light Brown Apple Moth Program are pasted below, as well as attached in more legible format.

Confirmation of receipt of these documents is requested.

Thank you.

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The Draft Programmatic Environmental Impact Report for the Light Brown Apple Moth (LBAM) Program by ENTRIX, contracted by the California Department of Food and Agriculture (http://www.cdfa.ca.gov/phpps/PDEP/lbam/envimpactrpt.html), does not answer all of the questions asked during the public comment periods held in 2008, and leaves many serious concerns unaddressed.

To assure that specific questions are easily distinguishable from our comments, questions we expect to have answered in the Final EIR are indented and in bold in the comments below.

Our previous questions, most of which were not addressed in the LBAM-DPEIR, pertain to a wide variety of aspects of this program, as well as to the process of how this program is connected to related programs, and are also attached (and available online at http://dontspraycalifornia.org/PEIR%20comments.pdf).

THE LBAM "EMERGENCY":

The LBAM-DPEIR continues to perpetuate the myth that the LBAM is a pest likely to devastate the agricultural industry, as well as the natural environment.

Many scientists have evaluated the LBAM program and found it to be lacking sound science, including most recently a National Academy of Sciences committee, contracted by the United States Department of Agriculture, the agency overseeing the LBAM program. Even Dr. Robert Venette, whose "Mini Risk Assessment" for LBAM has been used by the USDA and CDFA to justify the LBAM program in California, was among the committee members, who reportedly were unanimous in their concern over the lack of scientific rigor of the USDA's reasoning to deny reclassification of the LBAM to a non-actionable pest (http://nap.edu/catalog/12762.html).

This EIR process has been specifically ordered by two California courts as a challenge to the unsubstantiated claims of LBAM damage, and now the LBAM-DPEIR itself confirms that "no direct crop damages have been experienced to date in areas subject to existing infestation" (Chapter 3, page 20).

This fact alone makes the LBAM program completely unnecessary.

IDENTIFICATION:

In spite of the admission that no crop damage has occurred, the preparers of the LBAM-DPEIR contradict themselves with the vague claim that "Recent LBAM infestations in organic berries have caused up to 20 percent crop loss" (Summary, page 3). This statement is likely to mislead many to believe that 20 percent of ALL organic berries have been lost to LBAM, when in fact the recent claim of LBAM larvae damage in ONE berry field cannot even be verified..

USDA documents clearly state that "Positive identification of LBAM can be made with certainty only by examining an adult" (http://www.aphis.usda.gov/plant_health/cphst/downloads/newsletterfall2007.pdf, page 2), and "Absolute certainty is not possible because there are still many California tortricids whose DNA has not been sequenced so the reference database is incomplete" (http://www.aphis.usda.gov/plant_health/plant_pest_info/lba_moth/downloads/LBAM_IPM_UCDavis.pdf, page 8).. In fact, according to CDFA's annual Report to the Legislature, the USDA continues to fund CDFA research to improve the reliability of identifying LBAM (see http://www.cdfa.ca.gov/phpps/PDEP/lbam/pdfs/Reports/2008LBAMLegRep.pdf, page 12).

RISK OF INCREASED PRIVATE PESTICIDE USE:

With such misleading statements about alleged crop loss, the prediction of private pesticide use if the LBAM program does not continue, is likely to become a self-fulfilling prophesy among growers and gardeners who trust CDFA and the EIR process, who suffer the consequences of inspections and quarantines imposed on them as a result of the LBAM program, or who may simply be frightened by the hyperbole of USDA's current "HungryPests" advertising campaign (http://hungrypests.org).

We believe that these statements and actions by CDFA and USDA, the lead agencies involved in the LBAM program, in fact provide the most likely reasoning for increased private pesticide use. Since LBAM is not doing any damage, the moths themselves would not prompt increased private pesticide use at all. In any case, attempting to prevent potential pesticide use through actual pesticide use is just plain irrational.

Since LBAM is doing no actual damage, on what evidence do you base your prediction that private pesticide use would increase, if we do not allow you to apply pesticides yourselves?

What is your responsibility for preventing such increase in private pesticide use?

Is the "HungryPests" advertising campaign by the USDA, the federal agency overseeing this program, more likely to encourage or discourage increased pesticide use?

How many farmers and growers have been required to either destroy their crops or apply pesticides for LBAM, who would not have used pesticides otherwise?

TRADE AGREEMENTS:

Farmers and growers have been complaining about damage done to their crops and livelihoods by inspections and quarantines. No one has had any reason to complain about LBAM since it has done no damage. Even the Sonoma and Napa "stakeholders" who urged action to eradicate LBAM in an apparent fit of panic, clearly expressed that their main concern are the impacts of the quarantines

(http://lbamspray.com/00_Documents/2009/20090511SonomaBoardLetter%20toCDFA.pdf).

Isn’t it the NAFTA trade agreement which forces quarantines and trade limits on both sides of the U.S. border, because of LBAM and other organisms?

What are the rights of farmers and growers in deciding whether they want to cater to a trade agreement, which has as part of its goal the spread of a larger pesticide industry? (See NAFTA's own pesticide labels to ease trade of pesticides http://www.epa.gov/oppfead1/international/naftatwg/labels/implem-labels.htm)

What is the economic impact of the LBAM program on organic and biodynamic, small scale farms, both from USDA/CDFA requirements to quarantine, overhandle crops in search of LBAM, and apply pesticides or destroy crops, as well as from organics consumers' shift away from locally grown crops no longer considered organic by them?

Wouldn’t reclassification of the LBAM to a Class C or non-actionable pest solve quarantine issues?

AGRICULTURAL PRACTICES:

In our previous comments we asked you to assess how current agricultural practices, particularly monocropping and dependence on chemicals, have contributed to the vulnerability of conventional farms to "pests" such as the LBAM, and to compare how organic, ecological agricultural practices that nurture and mimic natural ecosystems perceive and manage such "pests".

Many of the insects we are told to fear, including LBAM, have natural cycles, during which their populations ebb and flow, and which do not operate according to industry's annual fiscal cycles. Eradication and control programs interfere with these cycles and with nature's ability to adapt to change.

The industry's unwillingness to share some of the abundance of the harvest with the surrounding ecosystem, and the insistence that everything grown in a field must go to market, is not only unrealistic, but a policy that does more damage to a natural, healthy ecology than any insect ever could.

Like most of our concerns, these were not addressed.

Whose responsibility is it when monocropping and chemical use cause the vulnerabilities that invite so-called pests to flourish in modern agriculture?

How much crop loss is incorporated into your expectation of marketable harvest, and how much of the crop is expected to feed the surrounding ecosystem?

TARGET LOCATIONS OF AERIAL APPLICATIONS:

In 2000, we were told by the Sonoma County Tax Assessor that only 5% of Sonoma County is considered “urban”. Californians are proud of our green space, and many live in or near forested areas.

What precise locations are categorized as “agricultural” or “forested” areas to be aerially sprayed or SPLATed in each county?

For instance, would the East Bay Hills and the East Bay Regional Park District lands fall under the jurisdiction of the LBAM program for aerial applications?

How about Albany Hill?

How many residents live in or near each of the areas targeted?

TRAPPING PROGRAM:

Eradication programs are being justified with trap finds, which trigger quarantines, harassment of organic growers especially, and forced pesticide applications. But increased numbers of finds do not reflect that numbers of traps also increased, and consistent finds in massive trapping programs is statistically expected in any naturalized population of insects.

How do traps determine whether what is found in them is doing any damage, is likely to do future damage, or whether it is in balance with the local ecology?

Why does CDFA continue the trapping program, which uses the same chemical that injured hundreds to thousands in Monterey and Santa Cruz, even though the rest of the pesticide program has supposedly been suspended, pending this EIR process?

CHEMICAL INGREDIENTS AND INTERACTION:

What are the exact chemical ingredients, including so-called "inerts", carriers, adhesives, insect dyes, or other additives, for every part of the LBAM program?

What are the cummulative and synergistic effects between each chemical, each product, and any previous chemical used in each of the locations of the LBAM program?

"ORGANIC" PRODUCTS:

One common safety claim for two of the pesticides in this program, Btk and spinosad, is that they are "approved" for use in organic agriculture, but according to the Organic Materials Review Institute (OMRI) there are restrictions and concerns with both.

The status of the OMRI Organic Certificate of DiPel, the Btk product used in the LBAM program, is "Restricted" (http://www.valent.com/Data/Labels/DiPel%20PRO%20DF%20OMRI%203-1-10.pdf). According to the OMRI certificate, the product "May be used as a pesticide if the requirements of 205 206(e) are met, which requires the use of preventative, mechanical, physical, and other pest, weed, and disease management practices" and permits use of this product only, "Provided, That, the conditions for using the substance are documented in the organic system plan." (http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?type=simple;c=ecfr;cc=ecfr;sid=4163ddc3518c1ffdc539675aed8efe33;region=DIV1;q1=national%20organic%20program;rgn=div5;view=text;idno=7;node=7%3A3.1.1.9.31#7:3.1.1.9.31.3.342.7).

While we do not want to suggest that Btk products are in fact organic, or acceptable for use in any setting, and we believe that the USDA National Organic Program has actively diluted organic standards, from a legal standpoint the use of DiPel in neigborhoods does not constitute organic use even by the USDA-NOP's own misguided allowances of these products. The prior required management practices have not been met, nor is there an Organic System Plan in place for California neighborhoods, at least not by the agencies perpetrating the forcible spraying. Many residents are however observing their own, much more stringent organic standards than those of the USDA, and their food crops are at risk of being decimated by this program.

OMRI also states that "Spinosad, while an improvement over some materials, is still fairly broad spectrum and not representative of an ecological approach" (http://www.omri.org/spinosad_final.pdf). Spinosad is very toxic to honeybees, oysters and other marine mollusks, and somewhat toxic to birds, fish, and aquatic invertebrates. Ironically it is also harmful to the Trichogramma wasp, another part of the LBAM eradication program.

Spinosad requires microbial activity for breakdown, and if applied where herbicides have been used, build-up in soil is expected. In any neighborhood where residents, gardeners, landscapers, municipal agencies apply herbicides, persistence in soil is a by-product and would be expected to become a danger to humans and honeybees through contact with residues left on site, drift of residues, as well as drift at the time of application. While Spinosad is "approved" for limited use in organic production, it is only considered because of the rich microbial activity found on organic farms. It is not intended for use in city parks where herbicides have been used, nor is it intended for wholesale distribution into neighborhoods where usage of herbicides is not known.

What are the rights of farmers and residents, who are observing strict organic standards for health or religious reasons, to protect their food crops from chemical contamination?

How do you propose to mitigate the possibility of spinosad build-up in soils which may lack adequate microbial activity due to previous herbicide applications?

How do you propose to mitigate the impact of spinosad toxicity on honeybees especially, which are in a global crisis in part due to pesticide exposure?

ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH:

Over the course of around 1,500 pages, at no time does the LBAM-DPEIR even make mention of the dye to be used for the sterilized LBAM releases, and its potential impacts. A manufacturer's Material Safety Data Sheet of Calco Oil Red N-1700, the dye specified in the USDA's Environmental Assessment for that portion of the LBAM program (http://www.aphis.usda.gov/plant_health/ea/downloads/lbam-sit-ea.pdf), indicates that the dye may be mixed with mineral spirits (http://www.vwrsp.com/msds/10/820/82021-206.pdf). The MSDS for the dye lists no ingredients, but seems to indicate that toxic metals could be present. These substances may include endocrine disrupters and other public health and environmental hazards, which are not in any way acknowledged.

How can you be sure that chemically treated and irradiated insect releases will not upset the balance soil organisms need to maintain soil and overall ecological health, which organic gardens in the area, as well as the surrounding natural ecology, rely on for survival?

Since pet food treated with gamma radiation killed so many cats recently, what evidence do you have that LBAM treated with the same type of radiation will not wreak havock on other insects and soil organisms for which LBAM are food?

How will the release of millions upon millions of LBAM and wasps impact the foraging resources of other insects, especially of other pollinators, particularly the increasingly endangered bee population?

HUMAN HEALTH:

While the public's concern about the safety of chemically sensitive people is mentioned in the LBAM-DPEIR in passing, it does not actually discuss how the LBAM program would impact, and has already impacted, this population. Instead children are singled out as representing the sensitive, without differentiating between the vulnerabilities of healthy children who tend to be more resilient, and those already injured and struggling with cancer, MCS, AIDS, MS, thyroid disorders, arthritis, or other immune compromising health or living condition.

None of the hundreds who reported being injured by the LBAM program already were contacted, nor were their doctors.

Also not taken into account was the emerging body of research on chemical poisoning, including body burden studies, synergism, bioaccumulation of and sensitization to synthetic chemicals, and the long list of historical claims of safety by the pesticide industry, eventually revealed to be false by an even longer list of associated injuries and deaths.

Are any of the ingredients in any of the products to be used in the LBAM program, including so-called "inerts", carriers, adhesives, insect dyes, and other additives, endocrine disrupters or other chemicals which provoke a nonmonotonic dose response, where damage increases as the chemical exposure decreases?

Which products contain chemicals that have not been fully tested for whether they cause cancer, endocrine disruption, or other health concerns?

On precisely what evidence do you base your predictions of "no significant impact" from products of which not all ingredients are being disclosed, nor have been tested for all health concerns?

RISK ASSESSMENT:

Environmental reviews should be based on the precautionary principle, which in a nut shell states "better safe than sorry", with a particular view towards protecting vulnerable species and populations, and not on a theoretical risk assessment approach, which determines how much risk to the lives of others is acceptable to those who theorize about the potential impact of an action.

In your risk assessment process, where do you draw the line between "acceptable" and "significant" risk?

Specifically, how do you quantify the value of a person's health?

Is it an acceptable risk if 15% of the population is at risk of negative health impact? (According to the National Academy of Sciences 15% of the population is chemically sensitive to varying degrees.)

How about 1 in 8 children? Is that an acceptable risk? (That's how many kids are vulnerable to chemical exposure because they have asthma.)

HUMAN RIGHTS:

In our previous comments we asked you, again to no avail, to detail the rights of the public to informed consent in regards to their health and safety, and enjoyment of privacy, home, and free movement, and how the LBAM program may impact each of these rights. We asked you to detail how the constant saturation of a neighborhood with pesticides impacts these rights, and who is financially responsible for the cost of medical care and relocation for anyone who may be injured by the LBAM program, or relocates to prevent such injury. None of these issues have been addressed.

What are the implications of saturating entire cities with pesticide fumes designed to be present in the environment constantly and indefinitely, on the Americans with Disabilities Act, which requires public access and free movement to all, including infants, elders, immune-compromised, and other sensitive populations?

PUBLIC ACCESS TO DECISION-MAKING PROCESS:

Though CDFA says it invites public participation, records requests we submitted have been repeatedly ignored, denying us the information to which the public is entitled. During a casual survey of the community opposing the LBAM program we found that most listed in the LBAM-DPEIR (Chapter 1, page 9) as having been notified of the availability of the DPEIR for public comment had not, in fact, received notification, including members of our own collective. Many who had submitted previous comments were not listed at all. Whether the deceased man listed received proper notification remains a mystery to all.

How was the distribution list of individuals and organizations in Chapter 1 of the LBAM-DPEIR compiled?

How much was spent on notifying the public of the availability of the LBAM-DPEIR for public comment, compared to how much was spent on the USDA's "HungryPests" advertising campaign?

The LBAM program has met with resistance from its beginnings. Over the last couple of years thousands have signed petitions; scientists, legislators, municipal bodies, and courts have spoken out in opposition; the public has taken to the streets in protest, organized across regional boundaries, and in some cases prepared for civil disobedience; and the international media took notice. Yet CDFA and USDA insist on continuing this program, in spite of vast sociopolitical opposition, as well as solid scientific reasoning to end this sham.

Perhaps the most important question for which we expect an answer, is this one:

Referring to page 91 of the USDA Emergency Programs Manual (http://www.lbamspray.com/00_USDA/EmergencyProgramsManual%20.pdf), how do you define "sociopolitical opposition" that will prevent this program from going forward?

East Bay Pesticide Alert, also known as Don't Spray California when working on statewide issues, is a collective of individuals, most of whom are disabled by pesticide poisoning, who live in the LBAM quarantine zone and as such are direcly and negatively impacted by the continuation of this program.

We are opposed to the LBAM eradication program in its entirety, and demand an immediate end to all pesticide applications, including traps.

Maxina Ventura

Chronic Effects Researcher

beneficialbug@...

Isis Feral

Disabled Access Advocate

isisferal@...

CC:

EIR@...

www.dontspraycalifornia.org

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#2172

From: "Marsha Miliman" <mmiliman@...>
Date: Sun Sep 27, 2009 9:39 pm
Subject: Mostly fragrance-free handyman

mmiliman@...

I have found a good handyman who is respectful, quick, fair, and wears clothing washed in Ecos. He’s a retired electrical engineer probably in his late 60s, with no hair to gel and no discernable fragrance odors that I could detect. He didn’t know about MCS, but was very interested in learning about safer products to use in his work. I explained that I would be alerting “people like me” about his services, and he was fine with that. I’ve learned (thank you Michelle) to inspect their workbag before they come into the house for problematic materials, and he had none. When he was puzzling over a leak in my hitchen faucet, I said that I could tolerate teflon tape if he had some. He had me smell it first to make sure before he applied it. He readily put on booties when working in the house. He’s very nice and treats you with respect.

Bob’s Handyman Service

Bob Commins, Owner

Saratoga, CA 95070

408.741-5696 (Office)

408.838.8845 (cell)

Marsha

#2171

From: "Marsha Miliman" <mmiliman@...>
Date: Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:16 pm
Subject: RE: Fw: Environmental Health Network Oct 3 Support Group Meeting - Please RSVP

mmiliman@...

I am planning on attending ths meeting at EHN next Saturday, 10/3. I will be happy to bring raw food (organic carrots and celery) but with a non-raw hummus because I don’t have the equipment to make raw hummus. I can’t given up protein from chicken, fish, and beans (cooked), but since viewing Gabriel and other’s websites on raw food last week, I have lost 5 pounds and dropped my fasting blood sugar by 100 points! (Yes, it HAS been that high, and I have a long way to go yet). This is without insulin. Since I know that I won’t succeed going “cold turkey” off sugar, I allow mself some fruits, and even applesauce, as a special treat. I can’t digest all the seeds and nuts promoted in a raw diet, but use walnuts in salads and cooking. If I hadn’t eaten so many peanuts last week, I probably would have lost 3 more pounds! I managed to avoid sugar binges on the killer fabric softener nights, which was a major hurdle! See ya’ll next Saturday, I hope.

Marsha

From: BayCanaryGrapevine@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BayCanaryGrapevine@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of isis feral
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 9:24 AM
To: baycanarygrapevine@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BayCanaryGrapevine] Fw: Environmental Health Network Oct 3 Support Group Meeting - Please RSVP

--- On Sun, 9/27/09, Louise Yost <louyo@...> wrote:

Dear Friends,

I recently went to see a new documentary by a local filmmaker called "Simply Raw: Reversing Diabetes in 30 Days". This film chronicles the work of Gabriel Cousens, M.D. who is a live food medical authority, and who has an institute in Patagonia, Arizona. The film followed 6 diabetics who ate raw food only for 30 days at Dr. Cousens' institute. One person dropped out, and 4 of the remaining 5 got off insulin altogether.. The 5th person reduced his insulin by three fourths. A most revoluntionary concept! Eating raw food is, of course, healthy for everyone. So I invited Michael Bedar who studied with Dr Cousens to come do a raw foods demonstration for our Oct 3 meeting. Michael now lives in San Rafael and is giving classes in raw food preparation, and is promoting the film wherever he can. He is so gung ho! So Michael will demonstrate how to do sprouting, and how to make raw food salad dressings. I sure hope you can join us on Oct 3 from 4-6:15pm for this delightful offering. We will have our support group from 4-5pm, and the demo from 5-6:15pm, with potluck following. It would be nice if everyone brought raw food to the potluck so we can check out this healthy kind of diet. But you don't have to if that doesn't work for you.

PLEASE RSVP BY OCTOBER 1. I have the feeling that this will be a very popular meeting, so I need to know how many folks want to come so we can set up the meeting room to accomodate a crowd.

See Michael's bio below:

Michael Aaron Bedar is a film artist, teacher of live-food nutrition, and supporter of spiritual life. He puts them together to inspire and the choice and know-how to heal and be fully alive. Bedar completed the Live Food and Plant-Sourced Nutrition Master's Intensive at the Tree of Life Rejuvenation Center, and was the direct assistant, as well as a student, to Gabriel Cousens, M.D., a worldwide live food medical authority and spiritual teacher, from 2004 to 2009. Michael began filmmaking in 1999 with the documentary Ecoparque. After two other films, he co-founded and began to organize the team that would produce Simply Raw: Reversing Diabetes in 30 Days. Today, Michael is a Development Officer with the Joy of Learning Centers, a 501(c)3 located in San Rafael, California, whose mission is to transform the negativity in human energies into a powerful force for holistic physical and psychoogical healing, organic soils and foods, and local prosperity. Bedar is being supported by the Joy of Learning Centers to build the Movement to Reverse Diabetes Naturally throughout the Bay Area through partnerships that present transformative film screenings, spiritual support, and live-food lifestyle classes.
www.environ-mentalproductions.com

I would also like to screen Michael's "Simply Raw" film in the near future here at Ecology House. Please let me know if you are interested in that.

I look forward to seeing everyone soon!

really ripely rawly,

Louise

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#2170

From: isis feral <isisferal@...>
Date: Sun Sep 27, 2009 4:24 pm
Subject: Fw: Environmental Health Network Oct 3 Support Group Meeting - Please RSVP

isisferal

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--- On Sun, 9/27/09, Louise Yost <louyo@...> wrote:

Dear Friends,

I recently went to see a new documentary by a local filmmaker called "Simply Raw: Reversing Diabetes in 30 Days". This film chronicles the work of Gabriel Cousens, M.D. who is a live food medical authority, and who has an institute in Patagonia, Arizona. The film followed 6 diabetics who ate raw food only for 30 days at Dr. Cousens' institute. One person dropped out, and 4 of the remaining 5 got off insulin altogether.. The 5th person reduced his insulin by three fourths. A most revoluntionary concept! Eating raw food is, of course, healthy for everyone. So I invited Michael Bedar who studied with Dr Cousens to come do a raw foods demonstration for our Oct 3 meeting. Michael now lives in San Rafael and is giving classes in raw food preparation, and is promoting the film wherever he can. He is so gung ho! So Michael will demonstrate how to do sprouting, and how to make raw food salad dressings. I sure hope you can join us on Oct 3 from 4-6:15pm for this delightful offering. We will have our support group from 4-5pm, and the demo from 5-6:15pm, with potluck following. It would be nice if everyone brought raw food to the potluck so we can check out this healthy kind of diet. But you don't have to if that doesn't work for you.

PLEASE RSVP BY OCTOBER 1. I have the feeling that this will be a very popular meeting, so I need to know how many folks want to come so we can set up the meeting room to accomodate a crowd.

See Michael's bio below:

Michael Aaron Bedar is a film artist, teacher of live-food nutrition, and supporter of spiritual life. He puts them together to inspire and the choice and know-how to heal and be fully alive. Bedar completed the Live Food and Plant-Sourced Nutrition Master's Intensive at the Tree of Life Rejuvenation Center, and was the direct assistant, as well as a student, to Gabriel Cousens, M.D., a worldwide live food medical authority and spiritual teacher, from 2004 to 2009. Michael began filmmaking in 1999 with the documentary Ecoparque. After two other films, he co-founded and began to organize the team that would produce Simply Raw: Reversing Diabetes in 30 Days. Today, Michael is a Development Officer with the Joy of Learning Centers, a 501(c)3 located in San Rafael, California, whose mission is to transform the negativity in human energies into a powerful force for holistic physical and psychoogical healing, organic soils and foods, and local prosperity. Bedar is being supported by the Joy of Learning Centers to build the Movement to Reverse Diabetes Naturally throughout the Bay Area through partnerships that present transformative film screenings, spiritual support, and live-food lifestyle classes.
www.environ-mentalproductions.com

I would also like to screen Michael's "Simply Raw" film in the near future here at Ecology House. Please let me know if you are interested in that.

I look forward to seeing everyone soon!

really ripely rawly,

Louise

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#2169

From: isis feral <isisferal@...>
Date: Sat Sep 26, 2009 12:40 am
Subject: Re: my midwife's death last night

isisferal

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Hi Barb and all.

Connie is the keeper of the tree, so that would be a question to ask of her.

Maybe you could also tell folks here the history of the tree, Connie, since I don't remember all the details?

Sorry I'm a bit short lately, and not so chatty. Been reading all the posts, and thinking of you all, but LBAM has been keeping me fully engaged, with little more room for anything else. Of course it's not the actual harmless LBAMs, but big harmful agribusiness and their LBAM and other pesticide programs that's keeping me busy, though some days I feel like I just might have millions of moths hatching from my brain, they've been on it for so long. Just watch, they'll be quarantining my head next...

For those of you preparing comments on the LBAM EIR, they are due this coming Monday, September 28, at 5pm.

Off to tend to this now...

Be well, all.

Isis

--- On Fri, 9/25/09, Barbara Wilkie <wilworks@...> wrote:

Re: [BayCanaryGrapevine] my midwife's death last nigh

HI, Isis --

I didn't know this existed. How does one ad names to it?

Thanks,

barb

I'm sorry, Max. Very, very sad.

Here's the direct link to EHN's MCS Memorial Tree: http://dontspraycalifornia.org/1yearberkeleymcstree.jpg

#2168

From: Barbara Wilkie <wilworks@...>
Date: Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:49 pm
Subject: Re: my midwife's death last night

mcsbarbie

Offline

HI, Isis --

I didn't know this existed. How does one ad names to it?

Thanks,

barb

I'm sorry, Max. Very, very sad.

Here's the direct link to EHN's MCS Memorial Tree: http://dontspraycalifornia.org/1yearberkeleymcstree.jpg

--- On Thu, 9/24/09, Max Ventura <beneficialbug@...> wrote:

From: Max Ventura <beneficialbug@...>
Subject: [BayCanaryGrapevine] my midwife's death last night
To: BayCanaryGrapevine@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 9:32 PM

Hi all,

When I wrote about Chlorophyll I also wanted to write about one of my midwives who had had a massive stroke Sunday morning and was declared brain-dead Tuesday morning. Yesterday evening we gathered around her while others were at her family's home in L.A. and with the help of speaker phones had a memorial for her before life support was removed and she very quickly finished her dying.

I am stricken by the loss of Vicki. She was a loving, caring woman, and was all about life and would have absolutely hated being hooked up to life support, but her h us band felt that their son who has had a life of health difficulties which she helped him traverse with homeopathy, herbs, and such immune system support, needed a bit more time before life support was removed.

Her death certificate will read something like "died of stroke" but the real story is much more complex. Their neighborhood is Echo Park , one of the other centers of malathion spraying in the 80's like my neighborhood in North Hollywood , spraying part of the Medfly pesticides program which is a lot like the Light Brown Apple Moth and Gypsy Moth and Glassy-winged Sharpshooter and other such programs.

I believe that was the basis for the MCS I suffer, which was fully triggered living in the southern Sonoma Valley . The Valley of the Moon is darkness for so many.

Vicki suffered a variety of problems, all which the western medical community calls classic but does not connect dots. First, she was sensitve to chemicals also. I'm not sure she ever proclaimed that she had MCS, and as she avoided doctors, was probably never diagnosed as such. Even those of us going to doctors don't get diagnosed most of the time. She had heart palpitations starting 3 years ago, then was declared diabetic. They wanted her on insulin shots; she ref us ed going that far but took some pharmaceuticals, and everything went downhill. She had a "minor" stroke, then they put her on coumadin (sp?) and told her not to eat any of the healthy greens and garlic and onions a staple of her eating (saying it would thin the blood too much).She was miserable and felt stuck once on it all. She had broken an ankle around the time all this began and being poor and without insurance, didn't get some of the help that might have been important and had continued pain. She had recurring pain also from when some time before she'd stepped on a bougainvillea thorn. She had pain help via I think acupuncture, and also us ing some ionizing machine into which she'd put her foot in a bath of water. Between that and us ing aloe vera on the thorn wound and on another wound on the top of her foot, her foot and ankle were much improved recently. Nothing the doctors could understand.

About a year ago she had a full blown heart attack and things kept going downhill. She was up to 9 pharmaceuticals (remember, she was a midwife and had only gone onto pharmaceuticals when she was r us hed to the hospital during her first heart incident). With the help of "alternatives" of a variety of kinds including a lot of chiropractic (I'm not remembering all she did), she got down to 4 meds and was working to get back to none.

She ended up having this stroke, and guess what? It's probably the coumadin that killed her; her brain was flooded with blood; her body could not clot anything.

So of course the doctors say she might not have lived without the coumadin, but we look at it the other way; that, instead of body support after the heart incident (oh, yes� after the first incident they put in those stents which have killed many), they put in the deadly stents which I believe have now been taken off the market after having killed so many, but once in it's like she was a ticking timebomb. Then they put her on the coumadin, taking her off some of the healthiest foods so her body was not receiving the full nourishment it needed desperately, then they doped her up with more and more meds, beca us e each time you take one you are likely to have side-effects, so then you get put on another supposedly for those side-effects, but then your body rebels against those, and down the line. The pills she took for blood sugar predictably didn't "control" it as insulin doesn't control it, j us t beats it back. That's not the same as control, actually. Control would be about working with the fundamental problem so that it doesn't ca us e symptoms. If it is not creating a situation where the body is supported in clearing up the fundamental problem, there isn't any real control happening, j us t the false control marketed by pharmaceutical companies, which actually results in less "control" over time as the body gets sensitized to the insulin or whatever other product and needs more and more over time.

Anyhow, I wanted to remember Vicki to us all here, as she was a remarkable woman and dropped right into my life living next door for most of my third pregnancy, helping me through an emotionally traumatic time since I had no idea if Blake's father would be involved or not, and I was already overwhelmed with single mom'ing Ingrid and Andy. Then she helped me remarkably during the birth itself and helped me to have a wonderful and safe homebirth.

I also wanted to comment on what I experienced being with my friends in a hospital setting (thankfully, ventilation was okay and there was no disinfectant smell around our corner room) for the removal of life support machinery. First, we had to wait for the respiratory doctor to decide what to mark down as the time of death.. Would it be when she was declared brain dead, or when the tubes would be disconnected. Then, in the middle of all this, the literal end procedures, a nurse comes in to change the IV food bag. Her h us band went, "We don't need that." The nurse says she has to do it. He says, "Yeah, I know. That way you can charge the state." We all got it. That's precisely what was happening.

So finally the doctor in some remote room makes his decision, then gives the okay for these three women to do their thing. They were all very solemn and nice, at least better than the doctor on Tuesday who said, "Well, are we going to pull the plug already?" When admonished by Vicki's sister, he said, "I don't believe in sugar-coating things." I mean, this guy was j us t gross.

But with these three women who were doing the final "procedure", I got the hit that they are so us ed to hospital death that it doesn't bother them at all. It was very creepy. I know they are always dealing with death, and totally unnatural death like Vicki's. As far as I'm concerned, death was done to her by pesticide and pharmaceutical companies, but you'd never read that on her death certificate. As far as I'm concerned, she ought to be added to EHN's memorial tree of masks which you can see here (many more masks exist with EHN for MCS'ers who have died, but only some fit on this tree): It was taking forever to download photos on my computer, but if you go to our website and scroll down to the 'groups opposing the program' section of our Light Brown Apple Moth page, you'll be able to see it. It's beautiful, and I hope you all will look at it in memory of the maybe millions of MCS'ers, many not-yet-diagnosed, who have died around the world, it essentially not being acknowledged on their death certificates as the ca us e of death.

So the doctors think they did a grand thing "saving" her with meds and stents but I believe those killed her and goddess knows made her last 3 years in her body physical misery. She died at a young 63 and should have been with us catching babies for decades more. The world has lost a great healer. I am so sad.

Max

____________________________________________________________
Best Weight Loss Program - Click Here!

--

IF you want to live healthier lives, live as if you already had MCS!

Poisoned Profits - The Toxic Assault on Our Children

http://www.poisonedprofits.com/book.php

Toxic Beauty: How Cosmetics and Personal Care Products Endanger Your Health
. . . And What You Can Do about It

http://www.preventcancer.com/documents/ToxicBeauty_pressrelease_FINAL.pdf

What Makes Chemicals Poisonous

http://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/chemicals/poisonou.html

Weed killer kills human cells.
Study intensifies debate over 'inert' ingredients.

http://www.environmentalhealthnews.org/ehs/news/roundup-weed-killer-is-toxic-to-human-cells.-study-intensifies-debate-over-inert-ingredients

Partial) List of Products for Chemically Sensitive People

and their Allies/Friends; compiled by Diana Lion *
http://www.bpf.org/html/whats_now/FFproducts.html

FMA Fragrance Ingredient Database

April 16, 2007

http://www.epa.gov/opprd001/inerts/fmaingredient.pdf

Quick Facts on EWG's Skin Deep

http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/about.php

More than 12% of Population Reports Extreme Sensitivity to Low Levels of Common Chemicals

"Of those reporting such hypersensitivity, 13.5% (or 1.8% of the entire sample)

reported losing their jobs because of it."

I took early retirement, yet feel as though I lost my job!

Why? Toxic fragrances polluted my former workplace. -bw

http://www.ehponline.org/press/12pop.html

Fragranced consumer products and undisclosed ingredients

Anne C. Steinemann

http://www.ce.washington.edu/people/faculty/bios/documents/Steinemann2008.pdf

Women warned not to wear perfume during pregnancy

http://news.scotsman.com/health/Women-warned--not-to.4443471.jp

GREEN products, according to the

US Dept. of the Interior, "MUST NOT contain

petrochemical-derived fragrances."

http://www.doi.gov/greening/sustain/trad.html

Stage 5 Kidney disease: No dialysis, no drugs! Can it be done?
http://users.lmi.net/~wilworks/ehnlinx/kidneybw.htm

Stop the poisoning! Let's all also work for safer cosmetics, flavors,

fragrances, building materials, pest control, and no water fluoridation. Etc.

#2167

From: Barbara Wilkie <wilworks@...>
Date: Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:49 pm
Subject: Re: my midwife's death last night

mcsbarbie

Offline

HI, Isis --

I didn't know this existed. How does one ad names to it?

Thanks,

barb

I'm sorry, Max. Very, very sad.

Here's the direct link to EHN's MCS Memorial Tree: http://dontspraycalifornia.org/1yearberkeleymcstree.jpg

--- On Thu, 9/24/09, Max Ventura <beneficialbug@...> wrote:

From: Max Ventura <beneficialbug@...>
Subject: [BayCanaryGrapevine] my midwife's death last night
To: BayCanaryGrapevine@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 9:32 PM

Hi all,

When I wrote about Chlorophyll I also wanted to write about one of my midwives who had had a massive stroke Sunday morning and was declared brain-dead Tuesday morning. Yesterday evening we gathered around her while others were at her family's home in L.A. and with the help of speaker phones had a memorial for her before life support was removed and she very quickly finished her dying.

I am stricken by the loss of Vicki. She was a loving, caring woman, and was all about life and would have absolutely hated being hooked up to life support, but her h us band felt that their son who has had a life of health difficulties which she helped him traverse with homeopathy, herbs, and such immune system support, needed a bit more time before life support was removed.

Her death certificate will read something like "died of stroke" but the real story is much more complex. Their neighborhood is Echo Park , one of the other centers of malathion spraying in the 80's like my neighborhood in North Hollywood , spraying part of the Medfly pesticides program which is a lot like the Light Brown Apple Moth and Gypsy Moth and Glassy-winged Sharpshooter and other such programs.

I believe that was the basis for the MCS I suffer, which was fully triggered living in the southern Sonoma Valley . The Valley of the Moon is darkness for so many.

Vicki suffered a variety of problems, all which the western medical community calls classic but does not connect dots. First, she was sensitve to chemicals also. I'm not sure she ever proclaimed that she had MCS, and as she avoided doctors, was probably never diagnosed as such. Even those of us going to doctors don't get diagnosed most of the time. She had heart palpitations starting 3 years ago, then was declared diabetic. They wanted her on insulin shots; she ref us ed going that far but took some pharmaceuticals, and everything went downhill. She had a "minor" stroke, then they put her on coumadin (sp?) and told her not to eat any of the healthy greens and garlic and onions a staple of her eating (saying it would thin the blood too much).She was miserable and felt stuck once on it all. She had broken an ankle around the time all this began and being poor and without insurance, didn't get some of the help that might have been important and had continued pain. She had recurring pain also from when some time before she'd stepped on a bougainvillea thorn. She had pain help via I think acupuncture, and also us ing some ionizing machine into which she'd put her foot in a bath of water. Between that and us ing aloe vera on the thorn wound and on another wound on the top of her foot, her foot and ankle were much improved recently. Nothing the doctors could understand.

About a year ago she had a full blown heart attack and things kept going downhill. She was up to 9 pharmaceuticals (remember, she was a midwife and had only gone onto pharmaceuticals when she was r us hed to the hospital during her first heart incident). With the help of "alternatives" of a variety of kinds including a lot of chiropractic (I'm not remembering all she did), she got down to 4 meds and was working to get back to none.

She ended up having this stroke, and guess what? It's probably the coumadin that killed her; her brain was flooded with blood; her body could not clot anything.

So of course the doctors say she might not have lived without the coumadin, but we look at it the other way; that, instead of body support after the heart incident (oh, yes� after the first incident they put in those stents which have killed many), they put in the deadly stents which I believe have now been taken off the market after having killed so many, but once in it's like she was a ticking timebomb. Then they put her on the coumadin, taking her off some of the healthiest foods so her body was not receiving the full nourishment it needed desperately, then they doped her up with more and more meds, beca us e each time you take one you are likely to have side-effects, so then you get put on another supposedly for those side-effects, but then your body rebels against those, and down the line. The pills she took for blood sugar predictably didn't "control" it as insulin doesn't control it, j us t beats it back. That's not the same as control, actually. Control would be about working with the fundamental problem so that it doesn't ca us e symptoms. If it is not creating a situation where the body is supported in clearing up the fundamental problem, there isn't any real control happening, j us t the false control marketed by pharmaceutical companies, which actually results in less "control" over time as the body gets sensitized to the insulin or whatever other product and needs more and more over time.

Anyhow, I wanted to remember Vicki to us all here, as she was a remarkable woman and dropped right into my life living next door for most of my third pregnancy, helping me through an emotionally traumatic time since I had no idea if Blake's father would be involved or not, and I was already overwhelmed with single mom'ing Ingrid and Andy. Then she helped me remarkably during the birth itself and helped me to have a wonderful and safe homebirth.

I also wanted to comment on what I experienced being with my friends in a hospital setting (thankfully, ventilation was okay and there was no disinfectant smell around our corner room) for the removal of life support machinery. First, we had to wait for the respiratory doctor to decide what to mark down as the time of death.. Would it be when she was declared brain dead, or when the tubes would be disconnected. Then, in the middle of all this, the literal end procedures, a nurse comes in to change the IV food bag. Her h us band went, "We don't need that." The nurse says she has to do it. He says, "Yeah, I know. That way you can charge the state." We all got it. That's precisely what was happening.

So finally the doctor in some remote room makes his decision, then gives the okay for these three women to do their thing. They were all very solemn and nice, at least better than the doctor on Tuesday who said, "Well, are we going to pull the plug already?" When admonished by Vicki's sister, he said, "I don't believe in sugar-coating things." I mean, this guy was j us t gross.

But with these three women who were doing the final "procedure", I got the hit that they are so us ed to hospital death that it doesn't bother them at all. It was very creepy. I know they are always dealing with death, and totally unnatural death like Vicki's. As far as I'm concerned, death was done to her by pesticide and pharmaceutical companies, but you'd never read that on her death certificate. As far as I'm concerned, she ought to be added to EHN's memorial tree of masks which you can see here (many more masks exist with EHN for MCS'ers who have died, but only some fit on this tree): It was taking forever to download photos on my computer, but if you go to our website and scroll down to the 'groups opposing the program' section of our Light Brown Apple Moth page, you'll be able to see it. It's beautiful, and I hope you all will look at it in memory of the maybe millions of MCS'ers, many not-yet-diagnosed, who have died around the world, it essentially not being acknowledged on their death certificates as the ca us e of death.

So the doctors think they did a grand thing "saving" her with meds and stents but I believe those killed her and goddess knows made her last 3 years in her body physical misery. She died at a young 63 and should have been with us catching babies for decades more. The world has lost a great healer. I am so sad.

Max

____________________________________________________________
Best Weight Loss Program - Click Here!

--

IF you want to live healthier lives, live as if you already had MCS!

Poisoned Profits - The Toxic Assault on Our Children

http://www.poisonedprofits.com/book.php

Toxic Beauty: How Cosmetics and Personal Care Products Endanger Your Health
. . . And What You Can Do about It

http://www.preventcancer.com/documents/ToxicBeauty_pressrelease_FINAL.pdf

What Makes Chemicals Poisonous

http://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/chemicals/poisonou.html

Weed killer kills human cells.
Study intensifies debate over 'inert' ingredients.

http://www.environmentalhealthnews.org/ehs/news/roundup-weed-killer-is-toxic-to-human-cells.-study-intensifies-debate-over-inert-ingredients

Partial) List of Products for Chemically Sensitive People

and their Allies/Friends; compiled by Diana Lion *
http://www.bpf.org/html/whats_now/FFproducts.html

FMA Fragrance Ingredient Database

April 16, 2007

http://www.epa.gov/opprd001/inerts/fmaingredient.pdf

Quick Facts on EWG's Skin Deep

http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/about.php

More than 12% of Population Reports Extreme Sensitivity to Low Levels of Common Chemicals

"Of those reporting such hypersensitivity, 13.5% (or 1.8% of the entire sample)

reported losing their jobs because of it."

I took early retirement, yet feel as though I lost my job!

Why? Toxic fragrances polluted my former workplace. -bw

http://www.ehponline.org/press/12pop.html

Fragranced consumer products and undisclosed ingredients

Anne C. Steinemann

http://www.ce.washington.edu/people/faculty/bios/documents/Steinemann2008.pdf

Women warned not to wear perfume during pregnancy

http://news.scotsman.com/health/Women-warned--not-to.4443471.jp

GREEN products, according to the

US Dept. of the Interior, "MUST NOT contain

petrochemical-derived fragrances."

http://www.doi.gov/greening/sustain/trad.html

Stage 5 Kidney disease: No dialysis, no drugs! Can it be done?
http://users.lmi.net/~wilworks/ehnlinx/kidneybw.htm

Stop the poisoning! Let's all also work for safer cosmetics, flavors,

fragrances, building materials, pest control, and no water fluoridation. Etc.

#2166

From: Barbara Wilkie <wilworks@...>
Date: Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:47 pm
Subject: Re: my midwife's death last night

mcsbarbie

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Dear Max --

I'm so very sorry to learn of the passing of your midwife . . . but you've painted an amazing story of how our lives are so affected by decisions of others. Decisions to spray the hell out of our planet; decisicions to "heal" us when their products make us sick.

It was in 1997 that we lost Julia Kendall to leukemia, which was also triggered in her body by Malathion spraying in southern California.

May Vicki and Julia and all the others who have paid the ultimate price, be our beacons as we all move forward to protect ourselves from the big money efforts to spray us all over and over and over again. That TV ad absolutely scares the livin' hell outta me and it irritates me just as much.

We ALL are stakeholders when it comes to breathing!

barb

Hi all,

When I wrote about Chlorophyll I also wanted to write about one of my midwives who had had a massive stroke Sunday morning and was declared brain-dead Tuesday morning. Yesterday evening we gathered around her while others were at her family's home in L.A. and with the help of speaker phones had a memorial for her before life support was removed and she very quickly finished her dying.

I am stricken by the loss of Vicki. She was a loving, caring woman, and was all about life and would have absolutely hated being hooked up to life support, but her husband felt that their son who has had a life of health difficulties which she helped him traverse with homeopathy, herbs, and such immune system support, needed a bit more time before life support was removed.

Her death certificate will read something like "died of stroke" but the real story is much more complex. Their neighborhood is Echo Park, one of the other centers of malathion spraying in the 80's like my neighborhood in North Hollywood, spraying part of the Medfly pesticides program which is a lot like the Light Brown Apple Moth and Gypsy Moth and Glassy-winged Sharpshooter and other such programs.

I believe that was the basis for the MCS I suffer, which was fully triggered living in the southern Sonoma Valley. The Valley of the Moon is darkness for so many.

Vicki suffered a variety of problems, all which the western medical community calls classic but does not connect dots. First, she was sensitve to chemicals also. I'm not sure she ever proclaimed that she had MCS, and as she avoided doctors, was probably never diagnosed as such. Even those of us going to doctors don't get diagnosed most of the time. She had heart palpitations starting 3 years ago, then was declared diabetic. They wanted her on insulin shots; she refused going that far but took some pharmaceuticals, and everything went downhill. She had a "minor" stroke, then they put her on coumadin (sp?) and told her not to eat any of the healthy greens and garlic and onions a staple of her eating (saying it would thin the blood too much).She was miserable and felt stuck once on it all. She had broken an ankle around the time all this began and being poor and without insurance, didn't get some of the help that might have been important and had continued pain. She had recurring pain also from when some time before she'd stepped on a bougainvillea thorn. She had pain help via I think acupuncture, and also using some ionizing machine into which she'd put her foot in a bath of water. Between that and using aloe vera on the thorn wound and on another wound on the top of her foot, her foot and ankle were much improved recently. Nothing the doctors could understand.

About a year ago she had a full blown heart attack and things kept going downhill. She was up to 9 pharmaceuticals (remember, she was a midwife and had only gone onto pharmaceuticals when she was rushed to the hospital during her first heart incident). With the help of "alternatives" of a variety of kinds including a lot of chiropractic (I'm not remembering all she did), she got down to 4 meds and was working to get back to none.

She ended up having this stroke, and guess what? It's probably the coumadin that killed her; her brain was flooded with blood; her body could not clot anything.

So of course the doctors say she might not have lived without the coumadin, but we look at it the other way; that, instead of body support after the heart incident (oh, yes� after the first incident they put in those stents which have killed many), they put in the deadly stents which I believe have now been taken off the market after having killed so many, but once in it's like she was a ticking timebomb. Then they put her on the coumadin, taking her off some of the healthiest foods so her body was not receiving the full nourishment it needed desperately, then they doped her up with more and more meds, because each time you take one you are likely to have side-effects, so then you get put on another supposedly for those side-effects, but then your body rebels against those, and down the line. The pills she took for blood sugar predictably didn't "control" it as insulin doesn't control it, just beats it back. That's not the same as control, actually. Control would be about working with the fundamental problem so that it doesn't cause symptoms. If it is not creating a situation where the body is supported in clearing up the fundamental problem, there isn't any real control happening, just the false control marketed by pharmaceutical companies, which actually results in less "control" over time as the body gets sensitized to the insulin or whatever other product and needs more and more over time.

Anyhow, I wanted to remember Vicki to us all here, as she was a remarkable woman and dropped right into my life living next door for most of my third pregnancy, helping me through an emotionally traumatic time since I had no idea if Blake's father would be involved or not, and I was already overwhelmed with single mom'ing Ingrid and Andy. Then she helped me remarkably during the birth itself and helped me to have a wonderful and safe homebirth.

I also wanted to comment on what I experienced being with my friends in a hospital setting (thankfully, ventilation was okay and there was no disinfectant smell around our corner room) for the removal of life support machinery. First, we had to wait for the respiratory doctor to decide what to mark down as the time of death. Would it be when she was declared brain dead, or when the tubes would be disconnected. Then, in the middle of all this, the literal end procedures, a nurse comes in to change the IV food bag. Her husband went, "We don't need that." The nurse says she has to do it. He says, "Yeah, I know. That way you can charge the state." We all got it. That's precisely what was happening.

So finally the doctor in some remote room makes his decision, then gives the okay for these three women to do their thing. They were all very solemn and nice, at least better than the doctor on Tuesday who said, "Well, are we going to pull the plug already?" When admonished by Vicki's sister, he said, "I don't believe in sugar-coating things." I mean, this guy was just gross.

But with these three women who were doing the final "procedure", I got the hit that they are so used to hospital death that it doesn't bother them at all. It was very creepy. I know they are always dealing with death, and totally unnatural death like Vicki's. As far as I'm concerned, death was done to her by pesticide and pharmaceutical companies, but you'd never read that on her death certificate. As far as I'm concerned, she ought to be added to EHN's memorial tree of masks which you can see here (many more masks exist with EHN for MCS'ers who have died, but only some fit on this tree): It was taking forever to download photos on my computer, but if you go to our website and scroll down to the 'groups opposing the program' section of our Light Brown Apple Moth page, you'll be able to see it. It's beautiful, and I hope you all will look at it in memory of the maybe millions of MCS'ers, many not-yet-diagnosed, who have died around the world, it essentially not being acknowledged on their death certificates as the cause of death.

So the doctors think they did a grand thing "saving" her with meds and stents but I believe those killed her and goddess knows made her last 3 years in her body physical misery. She died at a young 63 and should have been with us catching babies for decades more. The world has lost a great healer. I am so sad.

Max

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Toxic Beauty: How Cosmetics and Personal Care Products Endanger Your Health
. . . And What You Can Do about It

http://www.preventcancer.com/documents/ToxicBeauty_pressrelease_FINAL.pdf

What Makes Chemicals Poisonous

http://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/chemicals/poisonou.html

Weed killer kills human cells.
Study intensifies debate over 'inert' ingredients.

http://www.environmentalhealthnews.org/ehs/news/roundup-weed-killer-is-toxic-to-human-cells.-study-intensifies-debate-over-inert-ingredients

Partial) List of Products for Chemically Sensitive People

and their Allies/Friends; compiled by Diana Lion *
http://www.bpf.org/html/whats_now/FFproducts.html

FMA Fragrance Ingredient Database

April 16, 2007

http://www.epa.gov/opprd001/inerts/fmaingredient.pdf

Quick Facts on EWG's Skin Deep

http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/about.php

More than 12% of Population Reports Extreme Sensitivity to Low Levels of Common Chemicals

"Of those reporting such hypersensitivity, 13.5% (or 1.8% of the entire sample)

reported losing their jobs because of it."

I took early retirement, yet feel as though I lost my job!

Why? Toxic fragrances polluted my former workplace. -bw

http://www.ehponline.org/press/12pop.html

Fragranced consumer products and undisclosed ingredients

Anne C. Steinemann

http://www.ce.washington.edu/people/faculty/bios/documents/Steinemann2008.pdf

Women warned not to wear perfume during pregnancy

http://news.scotsman.com/health/Women-warned--not-to.4443471.jp

GREEN products, according to the

US Dept. of the Interior, "MUST NOT contain

petrochemical-derived fragrances."

http://www.doi.gov/greening/sustain/trad.html

Stage 5 Kidney disease: No dialysis, no drugs! Can it be done?
http://users.lmi.net/~wilworks/ehnlinx/kidneybw.htm

Stop the poisoning! Let's all also work for safer cosmetics, flavors,

fragrances, building materials, pest control, and no water fluoridation. Etc.

#2165

From: Barbara Wilkie <wilworks@...>
Date: Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:37 pm
Subject: Re: Chlorophyll

mcsbarbie

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Previously I had tried various green powders and I had tried juicing. Nothing seemed to have worked for my body as my hemoglobin just kept dropping . . . which is normal with kidney failure and why they put kidney patients on Procrit. But I did not want to chance stroke, heart attack or cancer . . . all which could happen as a result of taking Procrit, but of course, you are told they only happen to other people and rarely.

Then, this past month, I started taking CloroFresh at $9 something a bottle at Vitamin Express in Berkeley. And, while my hemoglobin counts have been slowly and steadily dropping over the past four years, suddenly there was a jump from my lowest low of 6.2 to 6.9. And as far as I know, the major difference has been my drinking a little chlorophyll . . . meaning only 1 Tablespoon in 8 oz of water once or twice a week.

Remember, everything I do is an experiment. There just isn't any help that I've been able to find for standard care of nephrology patients without drugs and without dialysis. So I've forged my way with my health care providers all providing like crazy. And thus far, I'm managed relatively well without the commonly prescribed pharmaceuticals and without the seemingly required dialysis.

I've been troubled by bouts of dry heaves and sometimes active vomiting, but that isn't every day, sometimes not even every week, although there are times when it has happened several times in a week and once or twice where it's happened twice in one day. But I got through more consistent days like that with my three pregnancies years ago so I figured IF I could live through it then, I can live through it now.

One of the things I've read is that people stop eating when they start getting sick. I decided that I didn't stop eating during my pregnancies because I wanted a healthy baby, and so now, I don't stop eating because I want as healthy a me as possible . . . I've got to also help Bill with his problems, so I've got to hang around for a while . . . or so I feel.

Now, does this mean that because I'm now drinking ChloroFresh every other day this month that my hemoglobin will climb even more next month? I hope so, but I've not a clue . . . that's what experimenting is all about. But we'll see. I'm charting my drinking of chlorophyll this month so I know just when I've taken it so I do take it truly every other day. Again, I don't know what will also happen with my potassium and magnesium readings if I take for my body too much chlorophyll. We just have to wait and see the outcome of my next blood tests in about another five weeks . . .

By the way, I also take vegie iron tablets because chlorophyll has at its core magnesium and blood has at its core, iron. So because of my kidney disease, I also take iron tablets . . . but this is only my body I'm experimenting with.

In the meantime, good luck to any and all who try to green up their diets one way or another.

-- barb

can you take it in pill form? i go through periods where juicing is too much too.

--- In BayCanaryGrapevine@yahoogroups.com, Barbara Wilkie <wilworks@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, Max --
>
> Good advice.
>
> Being basically lazy (or too busy), I opt for the
> bottled stuff. I've made juices in the past and
> it is a laborious process for me. But, the point
> is well taken that Chlorophyll seems to do a good
> job of boosting red blood cells. I'm only looking
> at one month here, where I drank 1 T. only once
> or twice a week this past month, but I was
> pleased that my only spiraling downward
> hemoglobin, which had gotten to its lowest low of
> 6.2, suddenly rebounded to 6.9 . . . and I could
> feel the difference. I wasn't surprised at all
> with this test result.
>
> Now this month, I'm trying my 1 T every other day
> . . . and charting it so I don't forget to take
> it. I'm hoping to get the hemoglobin up into the
> 7s at least, and maybe start getting back toward

> normal (base of 11.5).
>
> I've also put Bill on it in hopes of getting his PSA to lower again.
>
> -- barb
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> >I've always been prone to anemia and when I was
> >pregnant had low numbers each time. With Ingrid,
> >I was given iron pills which did nothing but
> >plug me up. Later, with Andy, my midwives were
> >absolutely low-key and just said to take a
> >tablespoon of chlorophyll each morning and night
> >for a bit, in some oj (citrus helps the body
> >absorb� lemon would be just as good). In a week
> >my numbers were totally normal.
> >
> >
> >
> >I make a cheap green water at home� I put a bit
> >of 3 kinds of greens� collards, kale, lettuces,
> >celery, etc� into a great little grinder with
> >2-3 cups water (probably 1-1-1/2 c. greens) and
> >grind, then put through a sieve. Quick and easy
> >and provides a lot of chlorophyll for less money
> >than buying it bottled. Can be sipped throughout
> >the day. I was told it doesn't have to be
> >refrigerated if using that day.
> >
> >
> >
> >Max
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> IF you want to live healthier lives, live as if you already had MCS!
>
> Poisoned Profits - The Toxic Assault on Our Children
> http://www.poisonedprofits.com/book.php
>
>
> Toxic Beauty: How Cosmetics and Personal Care Products Endanger Your Health
> . . . And What You Can Do about It
> http://www.preventcancer.com/documents/ToxicBeauty_pressrelease_FINAL.pdf
>
> What Makes Chemicals Poisonous
> http://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/chemicals/poisonou.html
>
> Weed killer kills human cells.
> Study intensifies debate over 'inert' ingredients.
> http://www.environmentalhealthnews.org/ehs/news/roundup-weed-killer-is-toxic-to-human-cells.-study-intensifies-debate-over-inert-ingredients
>
> Partial) List of Products for Chemically Sensitive People
> and their Allies/Friends; compiled by Diana Lion *
> http://www.bpf.org/html/whats_now/FFproducts.html
>
> FMA Fragrance Ingredient Database
> April 16, 2007
> http://www.epa.gov/opprd001/inerts/fmaingredient.pdf
>
> Quick Facts on EWG's Skin Deep
> http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/about.php
>
> More than 12% of Population Reports Extreme
> Sensitivity to Low Levels of Common Chemicals
> "Of those reporting such hypersensitivity, 13.5% (or 1.8% of the entire sample)
> reported losing their jobs because of it."
> I took early retirement, yet feel as though I lost my job!
> Why? Toxic fragrances polluted my former workplace. -bw
> http://www.ehponline.org/press/12pop.html
>
> Fragranced consumer products and undisclosed ingredients
> Anne C. Steinemann
> http://www.ce.washington.edu/people/faculty/bios/documents/Steinemann2008.pdf
>
> Women warned not to wear perfume during pregnancy
> http://news.scotsman.com/health/Women-warned--not-to.4443471.jp
>
> GREEN products, according to the
> US Dept. of the Interior, "MUST NOT contain
> petrochemical-derived fragrances."
> http://www.doi.gov/greening/sustain/trad.html
>
> Stage 5 Kidney disease: No dialysis, no drugs! Can it be done?
> http://users.lmi.net/~wilworks/ehnlinx/kidneybw.htm
>
> Stop the poisoning! Let's all also work for safer cosmetics, flavors,
> fragrances, building materials, pest control, and no water fluoridation. Etc.
>

--

IF you want to live healthier lives, live as if you already had MCS!

Poisoned Profits - The Toxic Assault on Our Children

http://www.poisonedprofits.com/book.php

Toxic Beauty: How Cosmetics and Personal Care Products Endanger Your Health
. . . And What You Can Do about It

http://www.preventcancer.com/documents/ToxicBeauty_pressrelease_FINAL.pdf

What Makes Chemicals Poisonous

http://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/chemicals/poisonou.html

Weed killer kills human cells.
Study intensifies debate over 'inert' ingredients.

http://www.environmentalhealthnews.org/ehs/news/roundup-weed-killer-is-toxic-to-human-cells.-study-intensifies-debate-over-inert-ingredients

Partial) List of Products for Chemically Sensitive People

and their Allies/Friends; compiled by Diana Lion *
http://www.bpf.org/html/whats_now/FFproducts.html

FMA Fragrance Ingredient Database

April 16, 2007

http://www.epa.gov/opprd001/inerts/fmaingredient.pdf

Quick Facts on EWG's Skin Deep

http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/about.php

More than 12% of Population Reports Extreme Sensitivity to Low Levels of Common Chemicals

"Of those reporting such hypersensitivity, 13.5% (or 1.8% of the entire sample)

reported losing their jobs because of it."

I took early retirement, yet feel as though I lost my job!

Why? Toxic fragrances polluted my former workplace. -bw

http://www.ehponline.org/press/12pop.html

Fragranced consumer products and undisclosed ingredients

Anne C. Steinemann

http://www.ce.washington.edu/people/faculty/bios/documents/Steinemann2008.pdf

Women warned not to wear perfume during pregnancy

http://news.scotsman.com/health/Women-warned--not-to.4443471.jp

GREEN products, according to the

US Dept. of the Interior, "MUST NOT contain

petrochemical-derived fragrances."

http://www.doi.gov/greening/sustain/trad.html

Stage 5 Kidney disease: No dialysis, no drugs! Can it be done?
http://users.lmi.net/~wilworks/ehnlinx/kidneybw.htm

Stop the poisoning! Let's all also work for safer cosmetics, flavors,

fragrances, building materials, pest control, and no water fluoridation. Etc.

#2164

From: "Marsha Miliman" <mmiliman@...>
Date: Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:37 am
Subject: RE: my midwife's death last night

mmiliman@...

Max, I am very sorry for your loss, and am deeply impacted by your story, which rings true in all aspects. We are the tip of the iceberg of chemically injured people here and around the world, and I understand your pain and anger. Probably most of us have stories of friends and family whom we’ve lost due to over-medication and undiagnosed immunie-related diseases. Being a millionaire couldn’t save my childhood friend of 40 years, who never understood the connection between her chemical exposures and immune disorder. And I’m watching helplessly as another long-time friend is being medicated to death (17 meds, all prescribed by an empowered Physician’s Assistant). So, being a diabetic who reacts violently to medications, I can really understand the difficulty Vicki must have had.

I will offer this one perspective of joy: she brought life into the world and in doing so, probably experienced more joy than most of us will ever have. Try to remember that joy rather than the horrendous injustice she suffered. I also want to share another thought that may help you in some way. I once worked as a research assistant for a sociology professer at UCLA who was writing a book on burial rituals among tribal people around the world. I transcribed perhaps a hundred stories, but the one that has stayed with me is about a tribe that would walk toward the burial site in their finest robes, circling slowly in one direction. Then, after the burial ceremony, they would twirl happily away from the site, in the opposite direction, singing, waving their arms, and rejoicing in the memory of that person, and all that they meant to the tribe. As you mourn her loss, try to celebrate her life (which you did by writing this message), know that many of us are with you (even though we may not have met!) and will do whatever we can to help you feel the type of support expressed by these tribes. We’re here for you.

Marsha

From: BayCanaryGrapevine@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BayCanaryGrapevine@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Max Ventura
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 9:32 PM
To: BayCanaryGrapevine@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BayCanaryGrapevine] my midwife's death last night

Hi all,

When I wrote about Chlorophyll I also wanted to write about one of my midwives who had had a massive stroke Sunday morning and was declared brain-dead Tuesday morning. Yesterday evening we gathered around her while others were at her family’s home in L.A. and with the help of speaker phones had a memorial for her before life support was removed and she very quickly finished her dying.

I am stricken by the loss of Vicki. She was a loving, caring woman, and was all about life and would have absolutely hated being hooked up to life support, but her husband felt that their son who has had a life of health difficulties which she helped him traverse with homeopathy, herbs, and such immune system support, needed a bit more time before life support was removed.

Her death certificate will read something like “died of stroke” but the real story is much more complex. Their neighborhood is Echo Park, one of the other centers of malathion spraying in the 80’s like my neighborhood in North Hollywood, spraying part of the Medfly pesticides program which is a lot like the Light Brown Apple Moth and Gypsy Moth and Glassy-winged Sharpshooter and other such programs.

I believe that was the basis for the MCS I suffer, which was fully triggered living in the southern Sonoma Valley. The Valley of the Moon is darkness for so many.

Vicki suffered a variety of problems, all which the western medical community calls classic but does not connect dots. First, she was sensitve to chemicals also. I’m not sure she ever proclaimed that she had MCS, and as she avoided doctors, was probably never diagnosed as such. Even those of us going to doctors don’t get diagnosed most of the time. She had heart palpitations starting 3 years ago, then was declared diabetic. They wanted her on insulin shots; she refused going that far but took some pharmaceuticals, and everything went downhill. She had a “minor” stroke, then they put her on coumadin (sp?) and told her not to eat any of the healthy greens and garlic and onions a staple of her eating (saying it would thin the blood too much).She was miserable and felt stuck once on it all. She had broken an ankle around the time all this began and being poor and without insurance, didn’t get some of the help that might have been important and had continued pain. She had recurring pain also from when some time before she’d stepped on a bougainvillea thorn. She had pain help via I think acupuncture, and also using some ionizing machine into which she’d put her foot in a bath of water. Between that and using aloe vera on the thorn wound and on another wound on the top of her foot, her foot and ankle were much improved recently. Nothing the doctors could understand.

About a year ago she had a full blown heart attack and things kept going downhill. She was up to 9 pharmaceuticals (remember, she was a midwife and had only gone onto pharmaceuticals when she was rushed to the hospital during her first heart incident). With the help of “alternatives” of a variety of kinds including a lot of chiropractic (I’m not remembering all she did), she got down to 4 meds and was working to get back to none.

She ended up having this stroke, and guess what? It’s probably the coumadin that killed her; her brain was flooded with blood; her body could not clot anything.

So of course the doctors say she might not have lived without the coumadin, but we look at it the other way; that, instead of body support after the heart incident (oh, yes… after the first incident they put in those stents which have killed many), they put in the deadly stents which I believe have now been taken off the market after having killed so many, but once in it’s like she was a ticking timebomb. Then they put her on the coumadin, taking her off some of the healthiest foods so her body was not receiving the full nourishment it needed desperately, then they doped her up with more and more meds, because each time you take one you are likely to have side-effects, so then you get put on another supposedly for those side-effects, but then your body rebels against those, and down the line. The pills she took for blood sugar predictably didn’t “control” it as insulin doesn’t control it, just beats it back. That’s not the same as control, actually. Control would be about working with the fundamental problem so that it doesn’t cause symptoms. If it is not creating a situation where the body is supported in clearing up the fundamental problem, there isn’t any real control happening, just the false control marketed by pharmaceutical companies, which actually results in less “control” over time as the body gets sensitized to the insulin or whatever other product and needs more and more over time.

Anyhow, I wanted to remember Vicki to us all here, as she was a remarkable woman and dropped right into my life living next door for most of my third pregnancy, helping me through an emotionally traumatic time since I had no idea if Blake’s father would be involved or not, and I was already overwhelmed with single mom’ing Ingrid and Andy. Then she helped me remarkably during the birth itself and helped me to have a wonderful and safe homebirth.

I also wanted to comment on what I experienced being with my friends in a hospital setting (thankfully, ventilation was okay and there was no disinfectant smell around our corner room) for the removal of life support machinery. First, we had to wait for the respiratory doctor to decide what to mark down as the time of death. Would it be when she was declared brain dead, or when the tubes would be disconnected. Then, in the middle of all this, the literal end procedures, a nurse comes in to change the IV food bag. Her husband went, “We don’t need that.” The nurse says she has to do it. He says, “Yeah, I know. That way you can charge the state.” We all got it. That’s precisely what was happening.

So finally the doctor in some remote room makes his decision, then gives the okay for these three women to do their thing. They were all very solemn and nice, at least better than the doctor on Tuesday who said, “Well, are we going to pull the plug already?” When admonished by Vicki’s sister, he said, “I don’t believe in sugar-coating things.” I mean, this guy was just gross.

But with these three women who were doing the final “procedure”, I got the hit that they are so used to hospital death that it doesn’t bother them at all. It was very creepy. I know they are always dealing with death, and totally unnatural death like Vicki’s. As far as I’m concerned, death was done to her by pesticide and pharmaceutical companies, but you’d never read that on her death certificate. As far as I’m concerned, she ought to be added to EHN’s memorial tree of masks which you can see here (many more masks exist with EHN for MCS’ers who have died, but only some fit on this tree): It was taking forever to download photos on my computer, but if you go to our website and scroll down to the ‘groups opposing the program’ section of our Light Brown Apple Moth page, you’ll be able to see it. It’s beautiful, and I hope you all will look at it in memory of the maybe millions of MCS’ers, many not-yet-diagnosed, who have died around the world, it essentially not being acknowledged on their death certificates as the cause of death.

So the doctors think they did a grand thing “saving” her with meds and stents but I believe those killed her and goddess knows made her last 3 years in her body physical misery. She died at a young 63 and should have been with us catching babies for decades more. The world has lost a great healer. I am so sad.

Max

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#2163

From: isis feral <isisferal@...>
Date: Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:04 am
Subject: Re: my midwife's death last night

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I'm sorry, Max. Very, very sad.

Here's the direct link to EHN's MCS Memorial Tree: http://dontspraycalifornia.org/1yearberkeleymcstree.jpg

--- On Thu, 9/24/09, Max Ventura <beneficialbug@...> wrote:

From: Max Ventura <beneficialbug@...>
Subject: [BayCanaryGrapevine] my midwife's death last night
To: BayCanaryGrapevine@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 9:32 PM

Hi all,

When I wrote about Chlorophyll I also wanted to write about one of my midwives who had had a massive stroke Sunday morning and was declared brain-dead Tuesday morning. Yesterday evening we gathered around her while others were at her family’s home in L.A. and with the help of speaker phones had a memorial for her before life support was removed and she very quickly finished her dying.

I am stricken by the loss of Vicki. She was a loving, caring woman, and was all about life and would have absolutely hated being hooked up to life support, but her h us band felt that their son who has had a life of health difficulties which she helped him traverse with homeopathy, herbs, and such immune system support, needed a bit more time before life support was removed.

Her death certificate will read something like “died of stroke” but the real story is much more complex. Their neighborhood is Echo Park , one of the other centers of malathion spraying in the 80’s like my neighborhood in North Hollywood , spraying part of the Medfly pesticides program which is a lot like the Light Brown Apple Moth and Gypsy Moth and Glassy-winged Sharpshooter and other such programs.

I believe that was the basis for the MCS I suffer, which was fully triggered living in the southern Sonoma Valley . The Valley of the Moon is darkness for so many.

Vicki suffered a variety of problems, all which the western medical community calls classic but does not connect dots. First, she was sensitve to chemicals also. I’m not sure she ever proclaimed that she had MCS, and as she avoided doctors, was probably never diagnosed as such. Even those of us going to doctors don’t get diagnosed most of the time. She had heart palpitations starting 3 years ago, then was declared diabetic. They wanted her on insulin shots; she ref us ed going that far but took some pharmaceuticals, and everything went downhill. She had a “minor” stroke, then they put her on coumadin (sp?) and told her not to eat any of the healthy greens and garlic and onions a staple of her eating (saying it would thin the blood too much).She was miserable and felt stuck once on it all. She had broken an ankle around the time all this began and being poor and without insurance, didn’t get some of the help that might have been important and had continued pain. She had recurring pain also from when some time before she’d stepped on a bougainvillea thorn. She had pain help via I think acupuncture, and also us ing some ionizing machine into which she’d put her foot in a bath of water. Between that and us ing aloe vera on the thorn wound and on another wound on the top of her foot, her foot and ankle were much improved recently. Nothing the doctors could understand.

About a year ago she had a full blown heart attack and things kept going downhill. She was up to 9 pharmaceuticals (remember, she was a midwife and had only gone onto pharmaceuticals when she was r us hed to the hospital during her first heart incident). With the help of “alternatives” of a variety of kinds including a lot of chiropractic (I’m not remembering all she did), she got down to 4 meds and was working to get back to none.

She ended up having this stroke, and guess what? It’s probably the coumadin that killed her; her brain was flooded with blood; her body could not clot anything.

So of course the doctors say she might not have lived without the coumadin, but we look at it the other way; that, instead of body support after the heart incident (oh, yes… after the first incident they put in those stents which have killed many), they put in the deadly stents which I believe have now been taken off the market after having killed so many, but once in it’s like she was a ticking timebomb. Then they put her on the coumadin, taking her off some of the healthiest foods so her body was not receiving the full nourishment it needed desperately, then they doped her up with more and more meds, beca us e each time you take one you are likely to have side-effects, so then you get put on another supposedly for those side-effects, but then your body rebels against those, and down the line. The pills she took for blood sugar predictably didn’t “control” it as insulin doesn’t control it, j us t beats it back. That’s not the same as control, actually. Control would be about working with the fundamental problem so that it doesn’t ca us e symptoms. If it is not creating a situation where the body is supported in clearing up the fundamental problem, there isn’t any real control happening, j us t the false control marketed by pharmaceutical companies, which actually results in less “control” over time as the body gets sensitized to the insulin or whatever other product and needs more and more over time.

Anyhow, I wanted to remember Vicki to us all here, as she was a remarkable woman and dropped right into my life living next door for most of my third pregnancy, helping me through an emotionally traumatic time since I had no idea if Blake’s father would be involved or not, and I was already overwhelmed with single mom’ing Ingrid and Andy. Then she helped me remarkably during the birth itself and helped me to have a wonderful and safe homebirth.

I also wanted to comment on what I experienced being with my friends in a hospital setting (thankfully, ventilation was okay and there was no disinfectant smell around our corner room) for the removal of life support machinery. First, we had to wait for the respiratory doctor to decide what to mark down as the time of death.. Would it be when she was declared brain dead, or when the tubes would be disconnected. Then, in the middle of all this, the literal end procedures, a nurse comes in to change the IV food bag. Her h us band went, “We don’t need that.” The nurse says she has to do it. He says, “Yeah, I know. That way you can charge the state.” We all got it. That’s precisely what was happening.

So finally the doctor in some remote room makes his decision, then gives the okay for these three women to do their thing. They were all very solemn and nice, at least better than the doctor on Tuesday who said, “Well, are we going to pull the plug already?” When admonished by Vicki’s sister, he said, “I don’t believe in sugar-coating things.” I mean, this guy was j us t gross.

But with these three women who were doing the final “procedure”, I got the hit that they are so us ed to hospital death that it doesn’t bother them at all. It was very creepy. I know they are always dealing with death, and totally unnatural death like Vicki’s. As far as I’m concerned, death was done to her by pesticide and pharmaceutical companies, but you’d never read that on her death certificate. As far as I’m concerned, she ought to be added to EHN’s memorial tree of masks which you can see here (many more masks exist with EHN for MCS’ers who have died, but only some fit on this tree): It was taking forever to download photos on my computer, but if you go to our website and scroll down to the ‘groups opposing the program’ section of our Light Brown Apple Moth page, you’ll be able to see it. It’s beautiful, and I hope you all will look at it in memory of the maybe millions of MCS’ers, many not-yet-diagnosed, who have died around the world, it essentially not being acknowledged on their death certificates as the ca us e of death.

So the doctors think they did a grand thing “saving” her with meds and stents but I believe those killed her and goddess knows made her last 3 years in her body physical misery. She died at a young 63 and should have been with us catching babies for decades more. The world has lost a great healer. I am so sad.

Max

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From: "Max Ventura" <beneficialbug@...>
Date: Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:32 am
Subject: my midwife's death last night

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Hi all,

I believe that was the basis for the MCS I suffer, which was fully triggered living in the southern Sonoma Valley. The Valley of the Moon is darkness for so many.

She ended up having this stroke, and guess what? It’s probably the coumadin that killed her; her brain was flooded with blood; her body could not clot anything.

Max

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#2161

From: Bart <yaahoobart@...>
Date: Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:57 am
Subject: RE: Re: Chlorophyll

yaahoobart

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I take a daily 60 mg capsule by World Organic that I get at Rainbow. Don't have the price handy.

I think it actually helps how I feel. ... along with several other supplements...

Make sure that Green means NONTOXIC too!

--- On Thu, 9/24/09, Marsha Miliman <mmiliman@...> wrote:

From: Marsha Miliman <mmiliman@...>
Subject: RE: [BayCanaryGrapevine] Re: Chlorophyll
To: BayCanaryGrapevine@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 1:12 PM

Does anyone take Sun Chlorella tablets? I take about 5 or 6 tablets a day
when I need it. If you do take it, the company is having a sale on the 300
tablet (200 mg each) packet. I think it's $25 plus the ridiculous $6 S&H
fee, but for the same packet, Whole Foods is charging $42! If anyone has a
competitive source, please let me know.

Marsha Miliman
408.255.7911
408.334.7557 (cell)
206.450.0107 (cell)

-----Original Message-----
From: BayCanaryGrapevine@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:BayCanaryGrapevine@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of donnaskuhn
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:34 PM
To: BayCanaryGrapevine@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BayCanaryGrapevine] Re: Chlorophyll

can you take it in pill form? i go through periods where juicing is too much
too.

--- In BayCanaryGrapevine@yahoogroups.com, Barbara Wilkie <wilworks@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi, Max --
>
> Good advice.
>
> Being basically lazy (or too busy), I opt for the
> bottled stuff. I've made juices in the past and
> it is a laborious process for me. But, the point
> is well taken that Chlorophyll seems to do a good
> job of boosting red blood cells. I'm only looking
> at one month here, where I drank 1 T. only once
> or twice a week this past month, but I was
> pleased that my only spiraling downward
> hemoglobin, which had gotten to its lowest low of
> 6.2, suddenly rebounded to 6.9 . . . and I could
> feel the difference. I wasn't surprised at all
> with this test result.
>
> Now this month, I'm trying my 1 T every other day
> . . . and charting it so I don't forget to take
> it. I'm hoping to get the hemoglobin up into the
> 7s at least, and maybe start getting back toward
> normal (base of 11.5).
>
> I've also put Bill on it in hopes of getting his PSA to lower again.
>
> -- barb
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> >I've always been prone to anemia and when I was
> >pregnant had low numbers each time. With Ingrid,
> >I was given iron pills which did nothing but
> >plug me up. Later, with Andy, my midwives were
> >absolutely low-key and just said to take a
> >tablespoon of chlorophyll each morning and night
> >for a bit, in some oj (citrus helps the body
> >absorbŠ lemon would be just as good). In a week
> >my numbers were totally normal.
> >
> >
> >
> >I make a cheap green water at homeŠ I put a bit
> >of 3 kinds of greensŠ collards, kale, lettuces,
> >celery, etcŠ into a great little grinder with
> >2-3 cups water (probably 1-1-1/2 c. greens) and
> >grind, then put through a sieve. Quick and easy
> >and provides a lot of chlorophyll for less money
> >than buying it bottled. Can be sipped throughout
> >the day. I was told it doesn't have to be
> >refrigerated if using that day.
> >
> >
> >
> >Max
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> IF you want to live healthier lives, live as if you already had MCS!
>
> Poisoned Profits - The Toxic Assault on Our Children
> http://www.poisonedprofits.com/book.php
>
>
> Toxic Beauty: How Cosmetics and Personal Care Products Endanger Your
Health
> . . . And What You Can Do about It
> http://www.preventcancer.com/documents/ToxicBeauty_pressrelease_FINAL.pdf
>
> What Makes Chemicals Poisonous
> http://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/chemicals/poisonou.html
>
> Weed killer kills human cells.
> Study intensifies debate over 'inert' ingredients.
>
http://www.environmentalhealthnews.org/ehs/news/roundup-weed-killer-is-toxic
-to-human-cells.-study-intensifies-debate-over-inert-ingredients
>
> Partial) List of Products for Chemically Sensitive People
> and their Allies/Friends; compiled by Diana Lion *
> http://www.bpf.org/html/whats_now/FFproducts.html
>
> FMA Fragrance Ingredient Database
> April 16, 2007
> http://www.epa.gov/opprd001/inerts/fmaingredient.pdf
>
> Quick Facts on EWG's Skin Deep
> http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/about.php
>
> More than 12% of Population Reports Extreme
> Sensitivity to Low Levels of Common Chemicals
> "Of those reporting such hypersensitivity, 13.5% (or 1.8% of the entire
sample)
> reported losing their jobs because of it."
> I took early retirement, yet feel as though I lost my job!
> Why? Toxic fragrances polluted my former workplace. -bw
> http://www.ehponline.org/press/12pop.html
>
> Fragranced consumer products and undisclosed ingredients
> Anne C. Steinemann
>
http://www.ce.washington.edu/people/faculty/bios/documents/Steinemann2008.pd
f
>
> Women warned not to wear perfume during pregnancy
> http://news.scotsman.com/health/Women-warned--not-to.4443471.jp
>
> GREEN products, according to the
> US Dept. of the Interior, "MUST NOT contain
> petrochemical-derived fragrances."
> http://www.doi.gov/greening/sustain/trad.html
>
> Stage 5 Kidney disease: No dialysis, no drugs! Can it be done?
> http://users.lmi.net/~wilworks/ehnlinx/kidneybw.htm
>
> Stop the poisoning! Let's all also work for safer cosmetics, flavors,
> fragrances, building materials, pest control, and no water fluoridation.
Etc.
>

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#2160

From: Sequoia6 <sequoia6@...>
Date: Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:33 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Sun Chlorella Chlorophyll

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Hi Marsha,

Thanks for sharing the info on the Sun Chlorella sale. I take them, when I can afford them. From all the research I have done, they are the best quality source of chlorophyll I've found. They are a very effective detox tool for me.

Thanks again for telling us about the sale.

Here's the link to some info on the Sun Chlorella: http://www.sunchlorellausa.com/sun-chlorella/what-is-chlorella.html

Jenny (Sequoia)

#2159

From: "Marsha Miliman" <mmiliman@...>
Date: Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:12 pm
Subject: RE: Re: Chlorophyll

mmiliman@...

Does anyone take Sun Chlorella tablets? I take about 5 or 6 tablets a day
when I need it. If you do take it, the company is having a sale on the 300
tablet (200 mg each) packet. I think it's $25 plus the ridiculous $6 S&H
fee, but for the same packet, Whole Foods is charging $42! If anyone has a
competitive source, please let me know.

Marsha Miliman
408.255.7911
408.334.7557 (cell)
206.450.0107 (cell)

-----Original Message-----
From: BayCanaryGrapevine@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:BayCanaryGrapevine@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of donnaskuhn
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:34 PM
To: BayCanaryGrapevine@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BayCanaryGrapevine] Re: Chlorophyll

can you take it in pill form? i go through periods where juicing is too much
too.


--- In BayCanaryGrapevine@yahoogroups.com, Barbara Wilkie <wilworks@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi, Max --
>
> Good advice.
>
> Being basically lazy (or too busy), I opt for the
> bottled stuff. I've made juices in the past and
> it is a laborious process for me. But, the point
> is well taken that Chlorophyll seems to do a good
> job of boosting red blood cells. I'm only looking
> at one month here, where I drank 1 T. only once
> or twice a week this past month, but I was
> pleased that my only spiraling downward
> hemoglobin, which had gotten to its lowest low of
> 6.2, suddenly rebounded to 6.9 . . . and I could
> feel the difference. I wasn't surprised at all
> with this test result.
>
> Now this month, I'm trying my 1 T every other day
> . . . and charting it so I don't forget to take
> it. I'm hoping to get the hemoglobin up into the
> 7s at least, and maybe start getting back toward
> normal (base of 11.5).
>
> I've also put Bill on it in hopes of getting his PSA to lower again.
>
> -- barb
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> >I've always been prone to anemia and when I was
> >pregnant had low numbers each time. With Ingrid,
> >I was given iron pills which did nothing but
> >plug me up. Later, with Andy, my midwives were
> >absolutely low-key and just said to take a
> >tablespoon of chlorophyll each morning and night
> >for a bit, in some oj (citrus helps the body
> >absorb� lemon would be just as good). In a week
> >my numbers were totally normal.
> >
> >
> >
> >I make a cheap green water at home� I put a bit
> >of 3 kinds of greens� collards, kale, lettuces,
> >celery, etc� into a great little grinder with
> >2-3 cups water (probably 1-1-1/2 c. greens) and
> >grind, then put through a sieve. Quick and easy
> >and provides a lot of chlorophyll for less money
> >than buying it bottled. Can be sipped throughout
> >the day. I was told it doesn't have to be
> >refrigerated if using that day.
> >
> >
> >
> >Max
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> IF you want to live healthier lives, live as if you already had MCS!
>
> Poisoned Profits - The Toxic Assault on Our Children
> http://www.poisonedprofits.com/book.php
>
>
> Toxic Beauty: How Cosmetics and Personal Care Products Endanger Your
Health
>   . . . And What You Can Do about It
> http://www.preventcancer.com/documents/ToxicBeauty_pressrelease_FINAL.pdf
>
> What Makes Chemicals Poisonous
> http://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/chemicals/poisonou.html
>
> Weed killer kills human cells.
> Study intensifies debate over 'inert' ingredients.
>
http://www.environmentalhealthnews.org/ehs/news/roundup-weed-killer-is-toxic
-to-human-cells.-study-intensifies-debate-over-inert-ingredients
>
> Partial) List of Products for Chemically Sensitive People
> and their Allies/Friends; compiled by Diana Lion *
> http://www.bpf.org/html/whats_now/FFproducts.html
>
> FMA Fragrance Ingredient Database
> April 16, 2007
> http://www.epa.gov/opprd001/inerts/fmaingredient.pdf
>
> Quick Facts on EWG's Skin Deep
> http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/about.php
>
> More than 12% of Population Reports Extreme
> Sensitivity to Low Levels of Common Chemicals
> "Of those reporting such hypersensitivity, 13.5% (or 1.8% of the entire
sample)
> reported losing their jobs because of it."
> I took early retirement, yet feel as though I lost my job!
> Why? Toxic fragrances polluted my former workplace. -bw
> http://www.ehponline.org/press/12pop.html
>
> Fragranced consumer products and undisclosed ingredients
> Anne C. Steinemann
>
http://www.ce.washington.edu/people/faculty/bios/documents/Steinemann2008.pd
f
>
> Women warned not to wear perfume during pregnancy
> http://news.scotsman.com/health/Women-warned--not-to.4443471.jp
>
> GREEN products, according to the
> US Dept. of the Interior, "MUST NOT contain
> petrochemical-derived fragrances."
> http://www.doi.gov/greening/sustain/trad.html
>
> Stage 5 Kidney disease: No dialysis, no drugs! Can it be done?
> http://users.lmi.net/~wilworks/ehnlinx/kidneybw.htm
>
> Stop the poisoning! Let's all also work for safer cosmetics, flavors,
> fragrances, building materials, pest control, and no water fluoridation.
Etc.
>




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#2158

From: "donnaskuhn" <donnaskuhn@...>
Date: Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:33 pm
Subject: Re: Chlorophyll

donnaskuhn

Offline

can you take it in pill form? i go through periods where juicing is too much
too.


--- In BayCanaryGrapevine@yahoogroups.com, Barbara Wilkie <wilworks@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, Max --
>
> Good advice.
>
> Being basically lazy (or too busy), I opt for the
> bottled stuff. I've made juices in the past and
> it is a laborious process for me. But, the point
> is well taken that Chlorophyll seems to do a good
> job of boosting red blood cells. I'm only looking
> at one month here, where I drank 1 T. only once
> or twice a week this past month, but I was
> pleased that my only spiraling downward
> hemoglobin, which had gotten to its lowest low of
> 6.2, suddenly rebounded to 6.9 . . . and I could
> feel the difference. I wasn't surprised at all
> with this test result.
>
> Now this month, I'm trying my 1 T every other day
> . . . and charting it so I don't forget to take
> it. I'm hoping to get the hemoglobin up into the
> 7s at least, and maybe start getting back toward
> normal (base of 11.5).
>
> I've also put Bill on it in hopes of getting his PSA to lower again.
>
> -- barb
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> >I've always been prone to anemia and when I was
> >pregnant had low numbers each time. With Ingrid,
> >I was given iron pills which did nothing but
> >plug me up. Later, with Andy, my midwives were
> >absolutely low-key and just said to take a
> >tablespoon of chlorophyll each morning and night
> >for a bit, in some oj (citrus helps the body
> >absorb� lemon would be just as good). In a week
> >my numbers were totally normal.
> >
> >
> >
> >I make a cheap green water at home� I put a bit
> >of 3 kinds of greens� collards, kale, lettuces,
> >celery, etc� into a great little grinder with
> >2-3 cups water (probably 1-1-1/2 c. greens) and
> >grind, then put through a sieve. Quick and easy
> >and provides a lot of chlorophyll for less money
> >than buying it bottled. Can be sipped throughout
> >the day. I was told it doesn't have to be
> >refrigerated if using that day.
> >
> >
> >
> >Max
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> IF you want to live healthier lives, live as if you already had MCS!
>
> Poisoned Profits - The Toxic Assault on Our Children
> http://www.poisonedprofits.com/book.php
>
>
> Toxic Beauty: How Cosmetics and Personal Care Products Endanger Your Health
>   . . . And What You Can Do about It
> http://www.preventcancer.com/documents/ToxicBeauty_pressrelease_FINAL.pdf
>
> What Makes Chemicals Poisonous
> http://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/chemicals/poisonou.html
>
> Weed killer kills human cells.
> Study intensifies debate over 'inert' ingredients.
>
http://www.environmentalhealthnews.org/ehs/news/roundup-weed-killer-is-toxic-to-\
human-cells.-study-intensifies-debate-over-inert-ingredients
>
> Partial) List of Products for Chemically Sensitive People
> and their Allies/Friends; compiled by Diana Lion *
> http://www.bpf.org/html/whats_now/FFproducts.html
>
> FMA Fragrance Ingredient Database
> April 16, 2007
> http://www.epa.gov/opprd001/inerts/fmaingredient.pdf
>
> Quick Facts on EWG's Skin Deep
> http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/about.php
>
> More than 12% of Population Reports Extreme
> Sensitivity to Low Levels of Common Chemicals
> "Of those reporting such hypersensitivity, 13.5% (or 1.8% of the entire
sample)
> reported losing their jobs because of it."
> I took early retirement, yet feel as though I lost my job!
> Why? Toxic fragrances polluted my former workplace. -bw
> http://www.ehponline.org/press/12pop.html
>
> Fragranced consumer products and undisclosed ingredients
> Anne C. Steinemann
> http://www.ce.washington.edu/people/faculty/bios/documents/Steinemann2008.pdf
>
> Women warned not to wear perfume during pregnancy
> http://news.scotsman.com/health/Women-warned--not-to.4443471.jp
>
> GREEN products, according to the
> US Dept. of the Interior, "MUST NOT contain
> petrochemical-derived fragrances."
> http://www.doi.gov/greening/sustain/trad.html
>
> Stage 5 Kidney disease: No dialysis, no drugs! Can it be done?
> http://users.lmi.net/~wilworks/ehnlinx/kidneybw.htm
>
> Stop the poisoning! Let's all also work for safer cosmetics, flavors,
> fragrances, building materials, pest control, and no water fluoridation. Etc.
>

#2157

From: Gwen K <sanfranbabe@...>
Date: Thu Sep 24, 2009 3:43 am
Subject: RE: Thimerosal-free flu vaccine

sanfranbabe@...

For anyone interested, there's thimerasol-free flu shots at San Francisco Dept. of Public Health, 101 Grove St, San Francisco, 415-554-2625. I know taking the flu shot for some people is controversial, but I and my doc decided that it was best for me to take it considering my recent health problems.

The shot is $23.00 and not reimbursable with medicare. The dept is reserving these shots for pregnant women, so you must tell them that your doc wants you to have it as a medical necessity, i.e., you've had mercury poisoning like me. Do call ahead and make sure they still have some vaccine left.

Good luck,

Gwen

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#2156

From: Barbara Wilkie <wilworks@...>
Date: Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:56 pm
Subject: Re: Chlorophyll

mcsbarbie

Offline

Hi, Max --

Good advice.

Being basically lazy (or too busy), I opt for the bottled stuff. I've made juices in the past and it is a laborious process for me. But, the point is well taken that Chlorophyll seems to do a good job of boosting red blood cells. I'm only looking at one month here, where I drank 1 T. only once or twice a week this past month, but I was pleased that my only spiraling downward hemoglobin, which had gotten to its lowest low of 6.2, suddenly rebounded to 6.9 . . . and I could feel the difference. I wasn't surprised at all with this test result.

Now this month, I'm trying my 1 T every other day . . . and charting it so I don't forget to take it. I'm hoping to get the hemoglobin up into the 7s at least, and maybe start getting back toward normal (base of 11.5).

I've also put Bill on it in hopes of getting his PSA to lower again.

-- barb

I've always been prone to anemia and when I was pregnant had low numbers each time. With Ingrid, I was given iron pills which did nothing but plug me up. Later, with Andy, my midwives were absolutely low-key and just said to take a tablespoon of chlorophyll each morning and night for a bit, in some oj (citrus helps the body absorb� lemon would be just as good). In a week my numbers were totally normal.

I make a cheap green water at home� I put a bit of 3 kinds of greens� collards, kale, lettuces, celery, etc� into a great little grinder with 2-3 cups water (probably 1-1-1/2 c. greens) and grind, then put through a sieve. Quick and easy and provides a lot of chlorophyll for less money than buying it bottled. Can be sipped throughout the day. I was told it doesn't have to be refrigerated if using that day.

Max

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Poisoned Profits - The Toxic Assault on Our Children

http://www.poisonedprofits.com/book.php

Toxic Beauty: How Cosmetics and Personal Care Products Endanger Your Health
. . . And What You Can Do about It

http://www.preventcancer.com/documents/ToxicBeauty_pressrelease_FINAL.pdf

What Makes Chemicals Poisonous

http://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/chemicals/poisonou.html

Weed killer kills human cells.
Study intensifies debate over 'inert' ingredients.

http://www.environmentalhealthnews.org/ehs/news/roundup-weed-killer-is-toxic-to-human-cells.-study-intensifies-debate-over-inert-ingredients

Partial) List of Products for Chemically Sensitive People

and their Allies/Friends; compiled by Diana Lion *
http://www.bpf.org/html/whats_now/FFproducts.html

FMA Fragrance Ingredient Database

April 16, 2007

http://www.epa.gov/opprd001/inerts/fmaingredient.pdf

Quick Facts on EWG's Skin Deep

http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/about.php

More than 12% of Population Reports Extreme Sensitivity to Low Levels of Common Chemicals

"Of those reporting such hypersensitivity, 13.5% (or 1.8% of the entire sample)

reported losing their jobs because of it."

I took early retirement, yet feel as though I lost my job!

Why? Toxic fragrances polluted my former workplace. -bw

http://www.ehponline.org/press/12pop.html

Fragranced consumer products and undisclosed ingredients

Anne C. Steinemann

http://www.ce.washington.edu/people/faculty/bios/documents/Steinemann2008.pdf

Women warned not to wear perfume during pregnancy

http://news.scotsman.com/health/Women-warned--not-to.4443471.jp

GREEN products, according to the

US Dept. of the Interior, "MUST NOT contain

petrochemical-derived fragrances."

http://www.doi.gov/greening/sustain/trad.html

Stage 5 Kidney disease: No dialysis, no drugs! Can it be done?
http://users.lmi.net/~wilworks/ehnlinx/kidneybw.htm

Stop the poisoning! Let's all also work for safer cosmetics, flavors,

fragrances, building materials, pest control, and no water fluoridation. Etc.

#2155

From: "Max Ventura" <beneficialbug@...>
Date: Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:21 pm
Subject: Chlorophyll

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I’ve always been prone to anemia and when I was pregnant had low numbers each time. With Ingrid, I was given iron pills which did nothing but plug me up. Later, with Andy, my midwives were absolutely low-key and just said to take a tablespoon of chlorophyll each morning and night for a bit, in some oj (citrus helps the body absorb… lemon would be just as good). In a week my numbers were totally normal.

I make a cheap green water at home… I put a bit of 3 kinds of greens… collards, kale, lettuces, celery, etc… into a great little grinder with 2-3 cups water (probably 1-1-1/2 c. greens) and grind, then put through a sieve. Quick and easy and provides a lot of chlorophyll for less money than buying it bottled. Can be sipped throughout the day. I was told it doesn’t have to be refrigerated if using that day.

Max

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#2154

From: isis feral <isisferal@...>
Date: Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:04 am
Subject: MCS on "Bones" TV show

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In last week's episode of "Bones", a TV crime series, MCS was a central theme. If curious, you can watch it here:

http://www.zshare.net/video/65678619e3c1e511/

#2153

From: "Marsha Miliman" <mmiliman@...>
Date: Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:48 am
Subject: A picture is worth 1,000 words

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Stolli and reflection2009.jpg

Okay, you’re not all dog lovers, but it’s pictures like this that seem to cross the animal – human barrier in terms of demonstrating self awareness. This picture of Stolli, probably one of the most photographed dogs in history (by his graphic artist/animation parents) is the spitting image of Jasmine, so it makes me even more proud. Perhaps we should all look at ourselves with such obvious appreciation!

Marsha Miliman

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