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Re: Born in the USA

I'm about 3/4 of the way done.

I think this book should be bundled with Tina Cassidy's "Birth: The
Surprising History of How We Are Born" and should become required
reading for all women :-)

Cassidy's book provides the history lesson, and Wagner gives a hard-
core look at where we're at today, which isn't pretty, is it? (Amazon
is bundling Born in the USA with Birth Crisis by Shelia Kitzinger,
which I haven't read but also looks good.)

I think the change in our culture has to come both from women demanding
change, no longer hiring OB's to provide their prenatal and birth care,
and change in the educational system for doctors. All those OBs-in-
training are seeing are dysfunctional births, and that's the cycle they
are perpetuating. Of course if we'd stop hiring them, the later part
wouldn't be as necessary.

We're bred to trust doctors. And it's a cycle I'm trying to stop with
my children. I've caught myself a few times when my DS was taking
medicine that it was because "the doctor said you needed to" and was
sorry as soon as those words were out of my mouth. I immediately
revised what I've said and make it clear that's it's what Mommy and
Daddy think it will help you feel better. As they get older (only 3
1/2 and 1 right now) we will encourage them to understand that you're
paying a doctor/other care provider for an *opinion* and it's your
responsibility to research and decide whether that's the best choice
for you. And that you're always entitled to a 2nd, 3rd, or
4th....*opinion*.

Cathleen






Wed Feb 7, 2007 8:34 pm

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Hi Everyone! So, January is GONE! I can hardly believe it. Well, I'll go ahead and be the first to jump in there and say..........I haven't finished the book...
jillianjourneys
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Feb 6, 2007
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I'm a homebirth midwife, and I have loved what comes from Marsden's mouth, for so long :-) I am still struck by what goes on in the OB community: (p.6) "An...
Tammi
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Feb 6, 2007
2:06 pm

This also REALLY hit me when I read it. Of course it makes no sense for an OB/GYN to be all these things to women. I think Marsden makes an EXCELLENT point. I...
karen Brody
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Feb 6, 2007
2:30 pm

What's it going to take? It's going to take something huge, as Marsden cites, in cases where midwives have risen. Guess the 31% cesarean rate isn't high...
Tammi
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Feb 6, 2007
4:37 pm

That's a very interesting point about docs talking about the midwifery profession. K ... That's a very interesting point about docs talking about the midwifery...
karen Brody
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Feb 6, 2007
4:48 pm

I'm about 3/4 of the way done. I think this book should be bundled with Tina Cassidy's "Birth: The Surprising History of How We Are Born" and should become...
cathleen_barstow
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Feb 7, 2007
8:34 pm

Hi all :-) I don't know if you've seen Cassidy quoted, and even if it was taken out of context, you will not hear her words come from my mouth - if a mom wants...
Tammi
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Feb 7, 2007
8:51 pm

Well...I think Tina Cassidy's book is a strong contribution to birth, but I definitely see Tammi's point. I almost put the book down after the chapter where...
karen Brody
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Feb 7, 2007
9:13 pm

Tammi, I hadn't read that article until you posted it. I don't know if the quote was taken out of context, but it does sound uncharacteristic of the articles...
cathleen_barstow
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Feb 8, 2007
3:21 am

One last Tina Cassidy comment! Before I read her book I read a piece she wrote in the NY Times called "Birth, Controlled" and LOVED it. She really hit the nail...
karen Brody
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Feb 8, 2007
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I am blown away by this book. Reading it, I think, "How can this be happening here in our country?" but I know it is true because I experience it with the...
Michal
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Feb 11, 2007
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Hi, I'm new to the group. I'm a student midwife in Northern VA. I've only read the first two chapters so far, but I'm convinced that this is a book every...
Liz Matthews
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