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RE: [BODY-UK] HELP NEEDED


My own experiences tell me that professionals in every walk of life lie for
their own benefits. (not just politicians) I was told I was on the
Transplant list and carried a pager for two years, I was told by a surgeon
at Adenbrooks that he would give me a transplant. A year later he said, he
had never said any such thing and I had never been on the transplant list,
he also said I had a bad heart, although twelve months previously I'd had an
Echo cardiogram, and my heart was fine, I asked to see a heart specialist
every time I went on dialysis, three months later I had another Echo, and
everything is OK I told the Doctor He is a liar.

Do not take what Doctors tell you at face value, some of them have their own
agendas they work to. Some of them think that they are GOD!.

Cheers,
Len.
UK


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-----Original Message-----
From: body@... [mailto:body@...]
Sent: 26 October 2000 11:28
To: body-uk@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [BODY-UK] HELP NEEDED


Thank you Deborah and Paul for your kind remarks. However I am merely
reporting
what I believe to be correct information gleaned over the last 16 years.
Readers, especially of Internet information where there is much unverified
input, should always be objectively critical. I used to say all Christian
Scientists were against organ donation. Then I heard on TV a follower of
'Christian Scientists I' saying it was OK and he was a potential donor.
Likewise Len's experience regarding a Jehovah's Witness declining a
transplant
contrary to their general guidelines. The reason is that we are all
individuals
with the 'freedom of choice' to make up our own minds irrespective of
various
religious and legal statements.
A more difficult area to be critical is when professionals make statements.
The
tendency is to automatically believe what they are saying - not always the
case
as with the recent case that organ donors feel pain, which was debunked by
peer
group professionals.
Two good Web search engines to try and check information are:
http://www.alltheweb.com and http://www.google.com
They have large databases and are very fast!

Keep up the good work,
John Evans



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Hi everyone next week i have to give a talk at school on organ donation. I present it as an argument with arguments for and arguments against. I was wondering...
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Oct 25, 2000
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Gemma - I too give these talks - hope some of these help - please contact me directly if you would like copies of some of my notes - Good Luck! Arguments...
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Dear Deborah Nice overview Tracy ... BODY-UK-subscribe@onelist.com Unsubscribe: BODY-UK-unsubscribe@onelist.com List owner: BODY-UK-owner@......
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Gemma Chaloner wote ..... ... Well first good luck for your talk. Please do not take my word for Gospel (no pun intended, and if anyone thinks/knows I am wrong...
Reid, Fred
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Hello Gemma, Welcome and thank you for your question to this Group. In fact Jehovah's Witnesses are not against organ donation and transplantation. This is...
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Oct 25, 2000
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Hi Gamma, This might now be true of Jehovah's Witnesses, I, read about the bloodless transplants, but it is only recently, I was on dialysis with a Jehovah's ...
Len Coe
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Oct 26, 2000
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Hi everyone, I'm a newbie to this list although I've corresponded with a number of you for quite some time now. For those of you who don't know me, my name is ...
Paul Birchall-Hunt
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DearGemma Deborah has given you a very comprehensive list. Most of the arguments I have experienced are similar, and as I had some direct experience of heart...
Tracy Long
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Thank you Deborah and Paul for your kind remarks. However I am merely reporting what I believe to be correct information gleaned over the last 16 years. ...
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My own experiences tell me that professionals in every walk of life lie for their own benefits. (not just politicians) I was told I was on the Transplant list...
Len Coe
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Oct 26, 2000
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Tracy - thanks for comment..all notes in response to Gemma's request made interesting reading... Deborah x ... From: "Tracy Long" <T.Long@...> To:...
Deborah Duval
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John Evans wrote ... <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< In fact Jehovah's Witnesses are not against organ donation and transplantation. This is because all free blood is...
Reid, Fred
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Oct 26, 2000
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Hi! Its Basically, that they are against taking blood from another human being. Dialysis involves your own blood being taken through an artificial kidney and...
Len Coe
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Oct 26, 2000
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Gemma, I can't help much but you may like to see the following report on our site about different religion's views on transplantation (most if not all are for ...
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