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Re: [BODY-UK] HELP NEEDED

Gemma - I too give these talks - hope some of these help - please contact me
directly if you would like copies of some of my notes - Good Luck!

Arguments against cadaveric donation (off top of my head)

Belief that life support may be switched off before absolutely necessary
(not true by the way)

Defiling body - if particular religion believes 'body and soul' go onto
'another place', then by removing part of the body we somehow interfere with
this process.

Many people are bothered by removal of cornea (eye) - deemed to be
quintessential part of a person's personality and being. Almost everyone to
whom I have spoken is squeemish about this concept (including medical
students and experienced nurses)

Many people hold the view (cruelly) that the donation/transplant program is
somehow interfering with Darwin's 'Survival of the fittest' theory. ie that
the weakest should be left to die out in order to keep the 'fittest' left to
procreate.

Expense - both in terms of cost of treatment and of Benefit payments to
those who never manage to return to work (and by definition then contribute
to the Health budget rather than drain it)

Public are not aware of the actual process involved in removing
organs/tissue for donation process, and have only Frankenstein-ien films as
term of reference ('though the original version of Frankenstein (Shelly)
was, ironically, not a horror story)

There is an uneasiness felt in the concept that an organ recipient MAY
inherit personality traits from donor (Media scare stories I guess -
although see point immediately below - psycholigical problems CAN
precipitate this very real belief)

Recipients themselves may also develop psychological problems - ie if they
discover that their transplanted organ was donated by the family of a child.

Some negative Issues surrounding Live donation

How would donor feel if transplant was not successful?

How would recipient feel if donor developed serious health problems later in
life - (and not only renal problems). ie how would recipient feel if
donor's only remaining kidney failed and donor had to dialyse?

Would recipient possibly feel permanently indebted to donor (ie - if I had
accepted 'gift' from my mother how would our relationship change if I felt I
could no longer argue with her etc etc)

What if another member of family develops renal failure (ie what if mother
of renal patient donates and then another of her children develops renal
failure and no other family member is suitable donor)

And on and on and on..... sorry but you did ask for the negatives - and in
my experience these are the main areas of concern I have tackled in talks so
far.....

I would be interested to know how you fare!

Best of Luck - Deborah

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From: "Gemma Chaloner" <TheDancer@...>
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Sent: 25 October 2000 19:35
Subject: [BODY-UK] HELP NEEDED


> Hi everyone next week i have to give a talk at school on organ donation. I
> present it as an argument with arguments for and arguments against. I was
> wondering if any1 could give me some reasons for it and also against it. I
> seem to have found lots for but hardly any against. I was wondering if you
> could tell me the religions whihc are against it. Is is the johavhs
> witnesses
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> Thanks in advance
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> Gemma chaloner
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Hi everyone next week i have to give a talk at school on organ donation. I present it as an argument with arguments for and arguments against. I was wondering...
Gemma Chaloner
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Gemma - I too give these talks - hope some of these help - please contact me directly if you would like copies of some of my notes - Good Luck! Arguments...
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Dear Deborah Nice overview Tracy ... BODY-UK-subscribe@onelist.com Unsubscribe: BODY-UK-unsubscribe@onelist.com List owner: BODY-UK-owner@......
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Oct 26, 2000
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Gemma Chaloner wote ..... ... Well first good luck for your talk. Please do not take my word for Gospel (no pun intended, and if anyone thinks/knows I am wrong...
Reid, Fred
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Oct 25, 2000
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Hello Gemma, Welcome and thank you for your question to this Group. In fact Jehovah's Witnesses are not against organ donation and transplantation. This is...
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Oct 25, 2000
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Hi Gamma, This might now be true of Jehovah's Witnesses, I, read about the bloodless transplants, but it is only recently, I was on dialysis with a Jehovah's ...
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Oct 26, 2000
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Hi everyone, I'm a newbie to this list although I've corresponded with a number of you for quite some time now. For those of you who don't know me, my name is ...
Paul Birchall-Hunt
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Oct 26, 2000
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DearGemma Deborah has given you a very comprehensive list. Most of the arguments I have experienced are similar, and as I had some direct experience of heart...
Tracy Long
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Oct 26, 2000
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Thank you Deborah and Paul for your kind remarks. However I am merely reporting what I believe to be correct information gleaned over the last 16 years. ...
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Oct 26, 2000
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My own experiences tell me that professionals in every walk of life lie for their own benefits. (not just politicians) I was told I was on the Transplant list...
Len Coe
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Oct 26, 2000
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Tracy - thanks for comment..all notes in response to Gemma's request made interesting reading... Deborah x ... From: "Tracy Long" <T.Long@...> To:...
Deborah Duval
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Oct 26, 2000
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John Evans wrote ... <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< In fact Jehovah's Witnesses are not against organ donation and transplantation. This is because all free blood is...
Reid, Fred
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Oct 26, 2000
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Hi! Its Basically, that they are against taking blood from another human being. Dialysis involves your own blood being taken through an artificial kidney and...
Len Coe
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Oct 26, 2000
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Gemma, I can't help much but you may like to see the following report on our site about different religion's views on transplantation (most if not all are for ...
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