"Everything you have said flies in the face of what I have learned about AA." =======================================================  Sounds like you are...
ye once again the truth is hard to see and skirting around a mine field wont help you you gotta find the mines and defuse them dig them up, and ditch them ,...
Disease theory is just that: "theory." Just the facts please. Its horse shit, I know it doctors know it. And treatment centers and doctors get rich on it....
Frank wrote: “Disease theory is just that: "theory." Frank, What do you think about the fact that some drinkers develop a phenomenon of craving after a few...
The disease theory is hard to understand as is bi-polar ( or manic depressive) diseases. A dis-ease is simply that its something that makes us not at ease. I...
I know that if I adhere to what is in the basic text, I don't have to figure it out. On page 64 it says spiritual disease-the only place in the basic text...
Frank S. wrote: “Disease theory is just that: "theory." Just the facts please. Its horse shit, I know it doctors know it. And treatment centers and doctors...
The recent posts regarding the meaning of the words disease and illness ought to send us at once to a good English dictionary. dis·ease n. 1. A pathological...
I thought of a word - pedantic - worth looking up. I also feel that there is a message when we discuss the meaning of words instead of getting on with the...
For over 20 years I looked at the differences and kept getting drunk-go figure. Les Hymel ... From: Teresa Edwards <teresakedwards@...> Subject: Re:...
Seriously...."time off for work" then let it be a disease ?!?!?!?!?!?! Of coarse the opinions below are "opinions" .....but when we "teach" with the...
Good morning everyone! Let's go to page 100, last paragraph- "Assuming we are spiritually fit, we can do all sorts of things alcoholics are not supposed to do....
I think he is talking about time of to to go rehab to recover. Years ago people would lose their jobs if they took off a month to go to a rehab. Listing it as...
Amen to that brother _____ From: BBS_Open_Discussion@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BBS_Open_Discussion@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of seekerk ofpa Sent: Monday, March...
I think, when I read the Big Book, it is best to try to understand what the author is trying to get across to me, rather than simply considering a variety of...
The man who took me through the Big Book and thereby was in so doing paying his debt to the man who took time to pass it on to him is a firm believer using a...
As Bill Sees It page 5-Bill substituted brainstorm with sudden rage, which clarifies the intent of brainstorm on page 66 of the Big Book. Les Hymel ... From:...
... which clarifies the intent of brainstorm on page 66 of the Big Book. Les, with all due respect...what exactly does this have to do with the fact that...
how bill sees it is how Bill thinks and helps us to know the use of the word now. If I said "crack" to Bill there is no chance that he would think of the drug...
An excerpt from recent post ; "The meaning of words change over time." +++++++ This is why it is important for me to continue learning about the exciting ...
Study of the history of AA is fruitful and rewarding. It lets us see what it was like, what happened, and (as anyone attending meetings today knows) what it is...
Mike wrote: "I believe that everything we need to know about recovery from the disease of alcoholism can be found in the Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous." To...
I dont often comment on this group but Roys well placed query is important enough to have a go and explain my position on wanting to know exactly what the hell...
"Hardly anyone reads it"Â Â Hmmm......I've attended meetings in my home state Texas and often it's from As Bill Sees It that some very enlightening topics are...
Good point Bob. On page 22 of the 12 & 12 second to last line it says "the drowning seize life preservers". In a few years not too many people will know...
Whats a PFD Les ? Lifejacket was the term when I was at sea in 1997 .But I get your drift . As long as I dont ever have to use one , it doesnt really matter ...
ABSI was written in April 1967 and has Bill's signature. Bill passed away Jan 24, 1971. It is not a matter of looking for something in particular. When...
A bit like the door I got fitted; wasn't called a 'door' it was called an 'Entrance System' which really means it's a 'door' Â Des ... From: les hymel...