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Good Morning!

Dr. Bob's Nightmare is the first of the personal stories on page 171.

Page 165 is interesting however. This is the Section
Heading "Personal Stories - How Forty-Three Alcoholics RECOVERED
From Their Malady" (Emphasis is mine). Not a typo.

Page 172 - Paragraph 1 - Bob attributes "selfishness" as playing an
important part in "bringing on my alcoholism". In the next paragraph
we can see his antipathy towards the church. Reading through page
173 we see that he is in trouble early on with drinking, change of
scenery didn't help. At the bottom of page 174 he began to go to
sanitariums voluntarily to dry out. This was before Prohibition
(1920), he still had many more years of drinking ahead of him.

On pages 176 and 177 his drinking was out of control and all of the
classic symptoms were there: hiding bottles, others recognizing his
drinking as a problem, hoarding alcohol, social life deteriorating,
switching drinks (the Beer Experiment). On page 178 he falls in
with "...a crowd of people who attracted me because of their seeming
poise, health and happiness". (About 1933). That crowd was The
Oxford Group, although Dr. Bob had not connected this group of
people with any solution of his drinking problem. He drank and spent
time with the Oxford Groups for the next two and a half years.

In paragraph 1 the lady who called Bob was Henrietta Sieberling (of
the rubber tire manufacturing empire) and the friend was Bill
Wilson. The first meeting between Bill and Bob was about 6 hours
longer than the fifteen minutes Bob was initially willing to give to
Bill.

Bob did get drunk again 3 weeks later at the AMA convention. Bill
worked with him again and the founding of our society dates from
June 10, 1935 the date of Dr. Bob's last drink.

The end of paragraph two says alot of the power of one alcoholic
talking with another - "Of far more importance was the fact that he
was the first living human with whom I had ever talked, who knew
what he was talking about in regard to alcoholism from actual
experience. In other words, be talked my language. He knew all the
answers, and certainly not because he had picked them up in his
reading". The barrier had been breached.

Passing it on was important to Bob - the last paragraph on page 180
and continuing on to the top of the following page. "I spend a great
deal of time passing on what I learned to others who want and need
it badly. I do it for four reasons:

1. Sense of duty.
2. It is a pleasure.
3. Because in so doing I am paying my debt to the man who took time
to pass it on to me.
4. Because every time I do it I take out a little more insurance for
myself against a possible slip."

The ending of his story boils down to the essence of how important
an open mind is in order to accept what we have to offer. The
assumption is that the motivation to seek sobriety is in place, that
we are ready to listen to conviction as only the dying can be. "If
you think you are an atheist, an agnostic, a skeptic, or have any
other form of intellectual pride which keeps you from accepting what
is in this book, I feel sorry for you. If you still think you are
strong enough to beat the game alone, that is your affair. But if
you really and truly want to quit drinking liquor for good and all,
and sincerely feel that you must have some help, we know that we
have an answer for you. It never fails if you go about it with one
half the zeal you have been in the habit of showing when getting
another drink.

Your Heavenly Father will never let you down!"

This afternoon we'll begin again with the guidelines and follow with
the first post of the new cycle tomorrow.

Pass on the link: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BBS_Open_Discussion
to your other friends so they may share in what you have found.

Jim




Tue Apr 15, 2003 11:41 am

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Good Morning! Dr. Bob's Nightmare is the first of the personal stories on page 171. Page 165 is interesting however. This is the Section Heading "Personal...
Jim K.
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11:41 am

Good Morning, everyone! I get the privilege of posting the last study in this cycle. Dr. Bob's Nightmare is the first of the personal stories on page 171. ...
honey_dot_com
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Jun 11, 2003
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... 10,000 people coming by the hundreds all day long to see Dr. Bobs home and to see the places the big book and your posting talks about where he hid the...
leonard clark
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Jun 11, 2003
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Dr. Bob's story really demonstrates how new-age AA has changed the message. Seems like Political correctness is more important than the AA message. ... any ...
Steve
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Jun 11, 2003
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... God comes up..I am optomistic real big book based AA will stay because it has it "foundation stone" in bed rock the pop stuff is built on sand.and will...
leonard clark
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Jun 12, 2003
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Hi Lenny, This is true of my regular meeting, also. My first sponsor suggested I go to meeting that talked about the solution. It is not a coincidence that...
Steve
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Jun 12, 2003
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Dear Steve, *clap clap clap* Those who prefer to argue with what you wrote (or prefer to argue PERIOD) would remind you that the portion of the book from which...
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Jun 12, 2003
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As time progresses, the more I realize my good fortune for having a great 'old school' sponsor when newly sober. He, too, told me to read the black print. It...
Steve
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Good Morning, everyone! Dr. Bob's Nightmare is the first of the personal stories on page 171. Page 165 is interesting however. This is the Section Heading...
Jim K
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Aug 7, 2003
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It's interesting to note the supporting roles of ACTION and PRAYER in all of this, since Henrietta, Anne Smith and their Oxford Group meeting had begun to...
Danny S
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... hard.......lenny...
leonard clark
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Good Morning, everyone! Dr. Bob's Nightmare is the first of the personal stories on page 171. Page 165 is interesting however. This is the Section Heading...
Jim K
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Oct 3, 2003
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Thank you, Jim for carrying the message. I'm a grateful sex addict, and after spending my first year in dry drunk sobriety has a slip. During that first year...
gpforet
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Oct 3, 2003
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Jim: Thank you so much for your work "passing it on." I look forward to the next cycle of posts. I enjoy re-reading them when I check my e- mail each morning....
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Oct 3, 2003
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As we come to the end of another cycle I just want to thank Jim and Honey for keeping this study going five days a week, that's a lot of work. I can tell you...
Stephen Bordner
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... The other thing I discovered is there are more than a 150 members of this group. I looked through the lists of members and realized I had never seen a...
Stephen Bordner
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Yes, we must be vigilant ( Trish w/i hip again). Today I'm hobbling both physically and mentally but that's OK cos I'm still inching along too with my...
Trish & Jack
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Oct 4, 2003
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Here, here. I second the motion. This is not the only AA site upon which this phenomenon occurs. Many others I visit from time-to-time show upwards of 300...
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Oct 4, 2003
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Hi Gang. My name is Larry and I just found this group. I am in Orlando FL, and my soberity date is 03/23/1988. I look forward to the discussion, and also...
Larry Parker
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Larry, Welcome! Always good to see another member here. Have you visited the Big Book Study Group. The URL link is below. Another cycle of going through the...
BodhiDude2003
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This is a very common phenomenon, which I have not yet seen to fail. In any F2F AA groups which have an active membership, MAXIMUM of 10% of the membership is...
Danny S
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Hello all, This is a good topic for discussion considering that we are about to commence the BB study once again. I suppose that, until now, I have been one of...
Mark Holbrook
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Hey thanks Mark. Hopefully I didn't discourage anyone from posting. God, that's the opposite of my intent. I don't know whether to make amends or not. My...
Danny S
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... On reading our basic text, "Alcoholics Anonymous, The Story of How Thousands of Men and Women Have Recovered from Alcoholism." The man with whom I studied...
BodhiDude2003
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Oct 4, 2003
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I take slightly different tacks rach time as I go on my journey. I am headed always(hopefully) in the same direction to the same destination. Sometimes, I...
Trish & Jack
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Oct 4, 2003
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First of all: Welcome Larry. I always felt that another Larry was needed around here. :) Danny: it has been my experience that people that don't want to...
Larry Chura
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Oct 5, 2003
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I found that I could not "walk the walk" - that is, actually put the principles of our program of recovery to work in my life - until I knew what they were....
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I agree about "walking the walk" and reading the BB. It's sometimes slowly with me in grasping what info is where. I have a general idea. It's "walking the...
Trish & Jack
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Welcome Larry! Windvixen ... From: "Larry Parker" <lwp329@...> To: <BBS_Open_Discussion@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 1:22 AM ...
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