{He is just stealing more money from the American public.)
Impeach now, right now...
Julie

  Bush Outlines $7.1B Flu-Fighting Strategy By LAURAN NEERGAARD,
AP Medical Writer
2 hours, 24 minutes ago



WASHINGTON -     President Bush outlined a $7.1 billion strategy
Tuesday to prepare for the danger of a pandemic influenza outbreak,
saying he wanted to stockpile enough vaccine to protect 20 million
Americans against the current strain of bird flu as a first wave of
protection.

The president also said the United States must approve liability
protection for the makers of lifesaving vaccines. He said the number of
American vaccine manufacturers has plummeted because the industry
has been hit with a flood of lawsuits.

Bush said no one knows when or where a deadly strain of flu will strike
but "at some point we are likely to face another pandemic."

The president, in a speech at the     National Institutes of Health, said
the United States must be prepared to detect outbreaks anywhere in
the world, stockpile vaccines and anti-viral drugs and be ready to
respond at the federal, state and local levels in the event a pandemic
reaches the United States.

Bush outlined a strategy that would cost $7.1 billion including:

_$1.2 billion for the government to buy enough doses of the vaccine
against the current strain of bird flu to protect 20 million Americans; the
administration wants to have sufficient vaccine for front-line emergency
personnel and at-risk populations, including military personnel;

_$1 billion to stockpile more anti-viral drugs that lessen the severity of
the flu symptoms;

_$2.8 billion to speed the development of vaccines as new strains
emerge, a process that now takes months. The goal is to have the
manufacturing capability by 2010 to brew enough vaccine for every
American within six months' of a pandemic's start.

_$583 million for states and local governments to prepare emergency
plans to respond to an outbreak.

Bush said a pandemic flu would be far more serious than the seasonal
flu that makes hundreds of thousands of people sick ever year and
sends people to their doctors for a flu shot. "I had mine," Bush said.
Unlike seasonal flu, pandemic flu can kill people who are young and
healthy as well as those who are frail and sick, he said.

In asking Congress for money to buy vaccine, Bush said the
vaccine "would not be a perfect match to the pandemic flu because the
pandemic strain would probably differ somewhat from the avian flu virus
it grew from. But a vaccine against the current avian flu virus would likely
offer some protection against a pandemic strain and possibly save
many lives in the first critical months of an outbreak."

He also said the United States was increasing stockpiles of antiviral
drugs, such as Tamiflu and Relenza. Such drugs cannot prevent people
from catching the flu, but they can reduce the severity of the illness
when taken within 48 hours of getting sick, he said.

"At this moment there is no pandemic influenza in the United States or
the world, but if history is our guide there's reason to be concerned,"
Bush said. "In the last century, our country and the world have been hit
by three influenza pandemics, and viruses from birds contributed to all
of them."

He pointed out that the 1918 pandemic killed over a half million
Americans and more than 20 million people across the globe. "One-third
of the U.S. population was infected, and life expectancy in our country
was reduced by 13 years.

"The 1918 pandemic was followed by pandemics in 1957 and 1968,
which killed tens of thousands of Americans and millions across the
world," Bush said.

Bird flu has been documented in Asia and has spread to Europe but has
not reached the United States, the president said. "Our country has
been given fair warning of this danger to our homeland and time to
prepare," he said.

Bush said the cornerstone of his strategy was to develop new
technologies to produce new vaccines quickly. "If a pandemic strikes,
our country must have a surge capacity in place that will allow us to
bring a new vaccine online quickly and manufacture enough to
immunize every American against the pandemic strain," Bush said.

The principal goal of Bush's plan, Health and Human Services Secretary
Michael Leavitt said, "is the capacity for every American to have a
vaccine in the case of a pandemic, no matter what the virus is."

"There is no reason to believe that in the next day or two or week or
month that that's going to occur," Leavitt said on CBS's "The Early
Show." But he added that "we do need to be ready in case it begins to
mutate into a human transmissible disease."

Pandemics strike when the easy-to-mutate influenza virus shifts to a
strain that people have never experienced before, something that has
happened three times in the last century. While it is impossible to say
when the next super-flu will strike, concern is growing that the bird flu
strain known as H5N1 could trigger one if it mutates to start spreading
easily among people. Since 2003, at least 62 people in Southeast Asia
have died from H5N1; most regularly handled poultry.

The nation's strategy starts with attempting to spot an outbreak abroad
early and working to contain it before it reaches the United States.

Today, most of the world's vaccine against regular winter flu, including
much of that used by Americans each flu season, is manufactured in
factories in Britain and Europe.

The government already has ordered $162.5 million worth of vaccine to
be made and stockpiled against the Asian bird flu, more than half to be
made in a U.S. factory.

But the administration plan, to be released in more detail on
Wednesday, calls for more than stockpiling shots. It will stress a new
method of manufacturing flu vaccines — growing the virus to make them
in easy-to-handle cell cultures instead of today's cumbersome process
that uses millions of chicken eggs — as well as incentives for new U.S.-
based vaccine factories to open.

___

Associated Press Writer Nedra Pickler contributed to this report.


--- In Avian2005@yahoogroups.com, "Uncle Ernie"
<issues_alibis@y...> wrote:
>
> Said the Canadians say that 7% of wild ducks and geese they
> studied have a form of Avian flu, not the dangerous one? but a
> varient.  Like the West Nile that I'm sure was inflicted upon us by
> the Crime Family Bush I'd look for Avian Flu to be introduced if for
> no other reason than to bring about Marshall Law.  and the use
> of Happy Camps. Be afraid Americorp be very afraid.
>

Ths is my first post.I don't agree with Rumsfeld brnging in
Tamiflu.He is just another politician who just worries about making
money and not the safety of people.For example he aproved aspertame
which is a dangerous artificial sweetener never approved by the FDA.


http://money.cnn.com/2005/10/31/news/newsmakers/fortune_rumsfeld/


Rumsfeld's growing stake in Tamiflu --Defense Secretary, ex-chairman
of flu treatment rights holder, sees portfolio value growing. 31 Oct
2005 The prospect of a bird flu outbreak is proving to be very good
news for Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and other politically
connected investors in Gilead Sciences, the California biotech
company that owns the rights to Tamiflu, the influenza remedy that's
now the most-sought after drug in the world. Rumsfeld served as
Gilead's chairman from 1997 until he joined the Bush regime in 2001,
and he still holds a Gilead stake valued at between $5 million and
$25 million, according to federal financial disclosures filed by
Rumsfeld. The forms don't reveal the exact number of shares Rumsfeld
owns, but in the past six months fears of a pandemic and the ensuing
scramble for Tamiflu have sent Gilead's stock from $35 to $47.
http://www.legitgov.org/flu_oddities.html

Said the Canadians say that 7% of wild ducks and geese they
studied have a form of Avian flu, not the dangerous one? but a
varient.  Like the West Nile that I'm sure was inflicted upon us by
the Crime Family Bush I'd look for Avian Flu to be introduced if for
no other reason than to bring about Marshall Law.  and the use
of Happy Camps. Be afraid Americorp be very afraid.

http://www.insulttoinjury.org/
--- In injuredworkersvotersnetwork@yahoogroups.com, Eric
<indianaj0nes@y...> wrote:

  I have read about half of the book "Insult to In jury" by Ray Bourhis.  I
highly recommend any injured worker get this book and read it.  It will
pull the covers off the corrupt insurance companies you are fighting?
===================================
Thanks...
It sounds like a good one, I will order it from the library today.
I would buy it, but Bush's gas prices put me in the hole.

I am happy to say the church's in our area are uniteing the homeless (I
am not ok with that word) but that is how the govt. labels all who are not
in apts. houses. RV people are homeless also. (I don't think some of
the bigger RVers know that though)

If you are in WA. State this is the list for Auburn and some of King
County. You are invited...

I have one lady with her son that needs a sponser, they live in a station
wagon that is about to go belly up.
  She wants to take some art classes at the Senior Center ( $27.00 plus
supplies anyone have any watercolors?)
Then she can make a living selling her paintings. Yes, she is disabled,
and was once an injured worker that just gave up on them. (the state)
She is on medication for depression.

Anyone wishing to sponser her contact:
John at the
White River First Methodist Church
12th St. SE, Auburn, WA.
(I will post the phone numbers later when I get them, but I am sure they
are in the phone book)

Speaking of depression, I sat next to a young man last night at a
church dinner. He said he once played for Clinton, he plays bells. (with
a disabled group)
He is on medication for anger. Seemed like a nice chap.

He was accosted the other day probably because he walks funny, with
a limp, by two police officers who were looking for someone that looked
like him they said: "Without probable cause," they patted him down,
and asked for I.D. He replied without anger he didn't have to show them
his I.D. and he would be contacting an attorney. (I think I could use
some of his medication.)

Julie
******************************************************

                          Terry Gouchenour <coconut8682001@...>

Monday

  2:00pm
in Veterans Park, Auburn (the one by the Auburn High
School)
Jan and Jerry's (His Ministry)
----------------------------------------------------------
4:30pm
First United Methodist Church
100 N.st SE.,Auburn
(behind the gas station,union 76)
----------------------------------------------------------
4:30pm
Steel Lake Presbyterian Church
1829 S. 309th St.,Federal Way
----------------------------------------------------------
5:00pm
Kent Luthern Church
336 2nd Ave.,Kent
____________________________________________________________

Tuesday
5:00pm
Riverton Park United Methodist Church
3118 S. 140th St.,Tukwila
(Head toward 140th and Military Rd.)

____________________________________________________________

Wednesday

2:00pm
Veterans Park, Auburn  Jan and Jerry's
  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
4:30pm
Kent Seventh Day Adventist Church
25213 116th St SE,Kent
(they give you a sack lunch to leave with)
-------------------------------------------------------
6:30pm
White River First Methodist Church
12th St. SE, Auburn
(turn right by the Auburn motel,go past A&H
pharamacy
about 1 to 2 blocks,on same side of the street as A&H)
________________________________________________________

Thursday

5:00pm
Calvary Luthern Church
2415 S. 320th,Federal Way
-------------------------------------------------------
5:30pm
Friendly Kitchen @Hillcrest School
1800 Index Ave NE,Renton
_________________________________________________________

Friday

  6:00pm
  Jan And Jerry's Veterans Park, Auburn
see monday
(every 4 weeks is Teriakia,yumyum)
_________________________________________________________

Saturday
1:00pm
Church of the Good Shepard
  345 S 312th St.,Federal Way
4:30pm Kent Seventh Day Adventist Church
see Wednesday
__________________________________________________________

Sunday
3:00pm
Liberty Ridge
24711 94th Ave S.,Kent

SOURCE National Vaccine Information Center
Web Site: http://www.nvic.org     CHECK IT OUT.........AND...

 

Folks, pick up the phone and sink this bill.  It's a free ride for irresponsible pharmaceutical companies at your expense.Find your senators here.

http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

 

Alert!!! Forced Vaccination Bill is anti-American, needs to go down, please call you Senators today

Hi All:

I encourage everyone to pick up the phone and call the U.S. Senators and let them know that we do not want this anti-American and anti-U.S. Constitution bill to pass and become law.  This is an assault against every American and I encourage all of you to pick up the phone and let your voices be heard.

The bottom line is:

1)  If the Burr bill passes, "all economic incentives to insure mandated vaccines are safe will be removed and the American people are facing a future where government can force them to take poorly regulated experimental drugs and vaccines labeled as "countermeasures" or go to jail."

2)  BARDA The federal agency which will be in charge will be allowed:

"to operate in secret, exempt from the Freedom of Information Act and the Federal AdvisoryCommittee Act, insuring that no evidence of injuries or deaths caused by drugs and vaccines labeled as "countermeasures" will become public."

3)  "It is a sad day for this nation when Congress is frightened and bullied into allowing one profit making industry to destroy the seventh Amendment to the Constitution guaranteeing citizens their day in court in front of a jury of their peers," said Barbara Loe Fisher, president of NVIC.

Please read the article/alert below and take action today.  Pass this on to EVERYONE!  Contact your Senators today and let them know that THEY ARE NOT TO SUPPORT THIS UNDEMOCRATIC, UNAMERICAN LEGISLATION.  The bill number and name is:

U.S. Senate Bill 1873 the "Biodefense and Pandemic Vaccine and Drug Development Act of 2005

 

Find your Senators here  http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

 

E-NEWS FROM THE NATIONAL VACCINE INFORMATION CENTER
Vienna, Virginia http://www.nvic.org

=========================================================================
=================
NVIC Note: Yesterday we witnessed the Senate HELP Committee pass this bill out of sub-committee. It is critical that you take action today-immediately. This bill will go back to the committee for a final review on Thursday-October 20, 2005 and then go to the full Senate for a vote. Being led by Republican Richard Burr (R-NC) and being spurred by fears of avian flu, this bill was written and passed out of committee in a 24 hour period. Most members did not even have the final language in front of them.

The version that passed will broadly eliminate liability for vaccines and drugs. Please read the press release, write to the members of the HELP committee, write to your own Senator and your own member of Congress. Pass this alert to your family, friends and other organizations you are involved with. Go to our website and take action right now! Don't wait for someone else to do it.  This is a CODE RED alert to anyone who is concerned about forced
vaccination and holding drug companies responsible for the products they create. www.NVIC.org

WASHINGTON, Oct. 19 /PRNewswire/ -- The National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC) is calling the "Biodefense and Pandemic Vaccine and Drug Development Act of 2005"(S. 1873), which passed out of the U.S. Senate HELP Committee one day after it was introduced "a drug company stockholder's dream and a consumer's worst nightmare." The proposed legislation will strip Americans of the right to a trial by jury if harmed by an experimental or licensed drug or vaccine that they are forced by government to take whenever federal health officials declare a public health emergency.
   
The legislation's architect, Senator Richard Burr (R-NC), Chairman of the HELP Subcommittee on Bioterrorism and Public Health Preparedness, told the full HELP Committee yesterday that the legislation "creates a true partnership" between the federal government, the pharmaceutical industry and academia to walk the drug companies "through the Valley of Death" in
bringing a new vaccine or drug to market. Burr said it will give the Department of Health and Human Services "additional authority and resources to partner with the private sector to rapidly develop drugs and vaccines." The Burr bill gives
the Secretary of DHHS the sole authority to decide whether a manufacturer violated laws mandating drug safety and bans citizens from challenging his decision in the civil court system.
   
The bill establishes the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Agency (BARDA), as the single point of authority within the government for the advanced research and development of drugs and vaccines in response to bioterrorism and natural disease outbreaks such as the flu.

BARDA will operate in secret, exempt from the Freedom of Information Act and the Federal AdvisoryCommittee Act, insuring that no evidence of injuries or deaths caused by drugs and vaccines labeled as "countermeasures" will become public.

Nicknamed "Bioshield Two," the legislation is being pushed rapidly through Congress without time for voters to make their voices heard by their elected representatives. Co-sponsored by Republican Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-TN), Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee Chairman Mike Enzi (R-WY), and Senate Budget Committee Chairman Judd Gregg  (R-NH), the legislation will eliminate both regulatory and legal safeguards applied to vaccines as well as take away the right of children and adults harmed by vaccines and drugs to present their case in front of a jury in a civil court of law.

"It is a sad day for this nation when Congress is frightened and bullied into allowing one profit making industry to destroy the seventh Amendment to the Constitution guaranteeing citizens their day in court in front of a jury of their peers," said Barbara Loe Fisher, president of NVIC.

"This proposed legislation, like the power and money grab by federal health officials and industry in the Homeland Security Act of 2002 and the Project  Bioshield Act of 2004, is an unconstitutional attempt by some in Congress to give a taxpayer-funded handout to pharmaceutical companies for drugs and vaccines the government can force all citizens to use while absolving everyone connected from any responsibility for injuries and deaths which occur.

It means that, if an American is injured by an experimental flu or anthrax vaccine he or she is mandated to take, that citizen will be banned from exercising the Constitutional right to a jury trial even if it is revealed that the vaccine maker engaged in criminal fraud and negligence in the manufacture of the vaccine."

The federal Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is legally responsible for regulating the pharmaceutical industry and ensuring that drugs and vaccines released to the public are safe and effective. Drug companies marketing painkillers, like Vioxx, and anti-depressants, which have resulted in the deaths and injuries of thousands of children and adults, are being held accountable in civil court while the FDA has come under intense criticism for withholding information about the drugs' dangers from the public. Since1986, vaccine makers have been protected from most liability in civil court through the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act in which Congress created a federal vaccine injury compensation program (VICP) that offers vaccine victims an alternative to the court system. Even though the program has awarded nearly $2 billion to victims of mandated vaccines, two out of three plaintiffs are turned away.

"The drug companies and doctors got all the liability protection they needed in 1986 but they are greedy and want more," said Fisher. "And the federal health agencies want more power to force citizens to use vaccines without having to worry about properly regulating them. If the Burr bill passes, all economic incentives to insure mandated vaccines are safe will be removed and the American people are facing a future where government can force them to take poorly regulated experimental drugs and vaccines labeled as "countermeasures" or go to jail. The only recourse for citizens will be to strike down mandatory vaccination laws so vaccines will be subject to the law of supply and demand in the marketplace. The health care consumer's cry will be: No liability? No mandates."

The National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC) was founded by parents of vaccine injured children in 1982 and co-founders worked with Congress on the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986. For more information, go to
http://www.nvic.org./

SOURCE National Vaccine Information Center
Web Site: http://www.nvic.org

Kathi Williams
National Vaccine Information Center
421 Church St., Suite E
Vienna, Va 22180
703-938-DPT3
www.NVIC.org

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News@... is a free service of the National Vaccine Information Center and is supported through membership donations.  Learn more about vaccines, diseases and how to protect your informed consent rights
http://www.nvic.org

Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 07:27:46 -0000
From: "robertaldermandunbar" <robertaldermandunbar@...>
To: Avian2005-owner@yahoogroups.com
Subject: WELCOME ALL

First member of this group subscribed  a few hours ago..now we have a few dozen...and in my humble opinion..all HEAVYWEIGHTS...Thanks; we shall inform ..perhaps more..

 

See note below to Rosalyn...  I think I am up-to-date with the 30 or so that have joined today..all are off  "moderated status".  I will leave that as default for new members;  I have been part of groups that got more "male enhancement"//mortgage//somebody wants to meetyou/etc posts than those on-topic..

WELCOME

...................................

Greetings, Rosalyn..thanks for joining us...

..let me apologize up front...default setting on new members is "moderated"..and as new members came in...on familiar names like yours ..I quickly changed to "unmoderated"....didn't catch your new membership real quickly..sorry...no big deal except that messages that go through the approval process, besides being a little less timely, lose some of their photos/links/etc...

It's fixed now..

UncBob

 

--- In Avian2005@yahoogroups.com, Rosalyn_Castle@w... wrote:
>
>
> To see how far they have flown and from whence cometh the plague of
> birds and/or locusts?

Would our government do that to us?

Hmmmm, lets see the Cherokees were given infected blankets that
came from small pox patients on the Trail of Tears.

Some where in the 70's (not sure on date) the government experimented
on mental patients, testing drugs.

Why should we believe them now?

Bush and his racketeering buddies need to go, maybe we should send
him to Iraq since he likes it so much. He could be the next dictator.

If you don't stop it now we will be slaves. The new world order is
dangerous.

Are they watching you?
(Check out D.O.T. cameras on their web-site)

Check out coasttocoastam.com the old Art Bell Show, for information
on tags attached to things you buy that can be activated later.

What next? Spy cameras in our tv's? Maybe they are here already?
Why can't they can't catch the drug dealers then? Because they want
us to take drugs, and our children to take drugs and be dependant on
them. Did you know when you join the Air Force or Army drugs are
available in boot camp?

We have no leaders in either party, it's time we looked hard for people
who will stand up and protest. The sheeple of this country are being led
to the slaughter house and not even aware of it.

Julie










--- In Avian2005@yahoogroups.com, "robertaldermandunbar"
<robertaldermandunbar@y...> wrote:
>
>
> Rosalyn...funny..strange ..that you would mention the Black
Plague...after watching History Channel special last night it has been
much on my mind (NOTE: this group began the next day)...I have been
agooglin'...Very interesting points you make re: Roger Bacon//
EdwardIII//gunpowder//fertility (&any ex-military can vouch for salt
peter's effectiveness)
>
> Couple of quick points ..
>
> 1.) In my mind, perhaps the mother of all conspiracies has to do with
population control.  I can theorize that since the mid 19thC..Civil
War/Spanish Flu/WWI//WWII//Russian Rev//Stalin//etc.. our knowledge
and "technology" was such that a human plan could have been at
work...but, how can we account for the Plagues of 1347 and 1665?
(which, incidentally, are generally attributed to different agents..fleas vs
airborne)  before we even had germ theory....Perhaps our technology
was  greater than history books remember?
>
> and 2.) The first hour and half of last night's PLAGUE special dealt
with the spread..out of China/Blk Sea/Venice/etc and the HORRORS
and seemingly almost total morbidity...but the last portion of the
program dwelt on the benefits..
>
> a.) as you point out, incredible FERTILITY ..and the survivors that
were creating next generation were the healthiest..
>
> b.) Diet changed from grain to fruits/vegetables/even meat
>
> c.) First was precursor to Rennaissance//2nd to Industrial
Revolution...not enough bodies to do it the old fashioned way..even
Gutenberg mentioned..moveable type was  now a "Mother Necessity"..
>
> No big deal..EXCEPT...every google..egBlk death//Blk Plague death
rates//survival rate..plague 1347vs1665..bubonic vs blk
death..etc..comes up in the header with the same rosy scenario painted
by the documentary's final segment...almost as if written by the same
hand..is this the "OFFICIAL LINE"..?
>
> I will research until I can see..no, I'm not nuts.haven't made up mind
on anything(other than current AVIAN threat is total b.s without outside
NGO/Gov influence)...but one would be naive to and foolish to believe
that everything he's been told is factual..
>
>
>
> thx for the kind words..keep the wheels turning..Kindest
regards..UncBob
>
> ps..you mentioned alchemists, and 15thC Chinese ..try a google on
transmutation potassium calcium chicken egg   shell (or crab or lobster
or clam) if you want to see something true but not taught..
>
> ditto...  1421 chinese america
>
> --- In Avian2005@yahoogroups.com, Rosalyn_Castle@w... wrote:
> >
> > They must fly through the air with this Avian blue flu stuff but ducks
> > do not travel too far do they to reach from the Halls of Montezuma to
> > the Shores of Tripoli?
> >
> > And now tonight it is said a few ducks, in CANADA have "bird flu"
but
> > they must test and test to determine if they have the dreadful "Avian
> > Flu" or Bird Flu......airborne diseases.....kind of makes you wonder
> > about all those Chem Trails up there in the skies and what they are
> > really dumping?
> >
> > First thank you for asking me to join your list - how could I say no to
> > such an eloquent letter.
> >
> > Second I have been trying to remember something I ran across and
this is
> > pieces of a puzzle - but over 30 years ago I would run into the
stranges
> > pieces of inormation and when put together it made me wonder THE
BLACK
> > DEATH, or whatever hit - was it spread deliberately and this is what I
> > cannot remember - and need to research it for this is piece meal.
stuff.
> >
> > Edward - the Black Prince, brought the secret of gunpowder to the
UK
> > maybe around 1300 well way back then way back - forget the years.
> >
> > For some reason the gunpowder was dumped and they had a lot of
> > it........now about this time the plague had hit and people died, it was
> > the Bubonic Plague which is caused by rats, etc.........
> >
> > Now after considerable reserach and no answers, I decided that
how did
> > they dispose of the "gunpowder"
> >
> > THEY DUMPED IT IN THE WATER.
> >
> > Saltpetre was used in gunpowder.
> >
> > Later I had information that this was used in BIRTH CONTROL
PILLS.
> >
> > In prisons this substance is alleged to have been once given to
> > prisoners, at lest in 1968 and 1969 material I had ran across this.
> >
> > NOW GET THIS - MESSING WITH MOTHER NATURE.......BUT
DID SOMEONE KNOW
> > SOMETHING WE DID NOT KNOW NOW AND THEN - BUT THE
OLD ALCHEMISTS
> > KNEW......
> >
> > It was noted again, that these birth control pills contained this
> > substance in gunpowder, saltpetre......
> >
> > Now after the plague subsided and things returned to normal - It was
> > said suddenly after the plague as if a MIRACLE OF
GOD....suddenly women
> > startedhaving "multiple births".
> >
> > Women who have used these birth control pills and suddenly
stoped taking
> > them MANY HAD MULTIPLE BIRTHS, quintuplets, remember how
rare these were
> > so much so the Dionie Quintuplets became know world wide in the
1930
> > period - and of these children some were not let us say, too bright.
> >
> > CHINA is where they (the Alchemists) are alleged to have
experimented
> > with this substance we now know as "gunpowder"
> >
> > Let us say it serves a dual purpose, for it has medicinal
> > qualities......it sure as hell is a form of mass genocide in
> > wars....CANNON FODDER - fireworks....and how the air reeks with
sulfur -
> > from rockets to the nuclear bombs (Phineas to Charlemagne to
Longinus to
> > Hitler to General Patton - and now this Spear of Destiny as it is
called
> > is in Bush's hands AND THE LEGEND HOLDS TRUE IT IS
BOOMERANGING ON HIM)
> >
> > Now it is my thought here - CHINA IS MAKING OUR BIRTH
CONTROL PILLS AND
> > ABORTION PILLS.
> >
> > the secret of gun powder and the Chinese had in their hands life and
> > death and they made fireworks - and we make what.
> >
> > Cannons, big guns, the medicinal qualities are there if used properly,
> > but it is all about DEATH.......
> >
> > The Stars Name was Wormwood - one third of the population dies -
> > Cherynobly (sp) Russia this melt down.......bitter waters but it
scared
> > the hell out of the Russians.....POISONED WATERS.
> >
> > Nobel Peace Awards - Arts and Sciences (the US Constitution I
see how
> > Hollywood has such a hold on our economy and country Article I,
Section
> > 8 - takes in lots of territory, from patents to copyrights to exclusive
> > rights - to genocide maybe - medicines and vaccines, and at the
end of
> > the road the stars about to die get these very special awards for
> > humanitarian servicees, i.e. Charlie Chaplin, Gregory Peck who
seemed
> > more like Mr. UN towards the end - but was he all the time?)
> >
> > Gunpowder - this would be a good item for someone with more
knowledge
> > and expertise - to go into.
> >
> > For the birth control pills, the cannons, the bullets, abortion pills,
> > ABORTION PILLS - Red China.
> > '
> > Abortion pills and genetically engineered foods..........killer seeds
> > that kill life, seedless watermelons and oranges, started in the 1970
> > period when the Mafia got into Florida groves good - and up comes
well
> > you see it at the super market.....
> >
> > Pulp in orange juice is made to be well, unacceptable. Probably
more
> > nutrition ion the pulp than in the juice and I wonder what they use
the
> > pulp for - but all this destruction.
> >
> > Now this bird flu........
> >
> > West Nile Virus - Guiliani had planes SPRAY NEW YORK CITY - in
insane
> > asylums they used to turn hoses on inmates and they wee
inmates, to give
> > them baths.....NYC was bathed in this poison....it was said for
what -
> > mosquitoes...
> >
> > Well that West Nile Virus and they did not publicize it was ISRAELI
> > DESIGNER BRAND STRAIN.....so this means they were dumping
this Ethiopian
> > blood on the good old USA because they would not use it and had
> > previously been caught dumping same and the Ethiopians raised
holy
> > hell.....the Israelis did not refuse their blood, but knew it was
> > polluted - and did not want to hurt feelings, by saying your blood is
> > polluted it carried HIV/AIDS, Encephalitis, (west nile virus) - and
> > other less if that is possible desirable disease.
> >
> > Now going back to food for chickens and fouls - start with
> > chickens.....in old reports I had in that same 1960 time frame and
1970
> > - 50 percent OF ALL CHICKENS ARE DISEASED AND HAVE
CANCER.
> >
> > Now the question to me would be how do they get the cancer, but
at the
> > time someone in Congress was pusing to sell this cancerous
chicken TO
> > THE PUBLIC.....ever note how Colonel Sanders Chickens suddenly
became
> > like taking home a bag of bones....ever notice how skinny this Tyson
> > stuff is most of the time, I will not buy it for
> >
> > there is something now when I pass these meant counters that
absolutely
> > repels me.
> > Yoder Amish Chicken is so fat and plump and Tyson turns my
> > stomach....and so does Colonel Sanders - even the old Colonel
bailed out
> > about this selling cancerous chick.
> >
> > OH CANCER IS NOT CONTAGIOUS IT IS OKAY TO EAT
CANCEROUS CHICKENS.
> >
> > I wrote a letter to the Editor and got published and asked one
question?
> >
> > "If cancer is not contagious, then how do all these chickens get
cancer,
> > from something they ate".......now whos says I am not logical. So it
> > ws a loaded question and i got a lot of phone calls.....
> >
> > Something you eat, or you drink, sharing of cocaine needles by
users -
> > causes AIDS? No it does not cause AIDSi - a carrier spreads the
> > disease by the sharing of a drop of blood......OR WAS THE
COCAINE AND IS
> > THE COCAINE INVOLVED AND IS IT A KILLER when used in such
a manner.
> >
> > All I have to say is this - CHINA - life is cheap.......how many people
> > have been genocided of which we are not aware.
> >
> > GUNPOWDER - the ultimate cause of genocide, from abortions of
babies to
> > cannon fodder - and when it is time to "replenish" the world -
suddenly
> > TWINS and Multiple births - quintuplets, sextuplets,
quadtruplets....IT
> > WAS A MIRACLE THEY SAID.
> >
> > IT IS SAID SATAN SMELLED LIKE BRIMSTONE.....
> >
> >
> > Psalms, psalm 11
> >
> > "6": Upon the wicked he shall rain snares, fire and brimstone, and an
> > horrible tempest: this shall be the portion of their cup."
> >
> > 911 - Isiah 29 and 30 timed to 911
> >
> > here is the TOPHET where the towers once stood BRIMSTONE -
satanic.
> >
> >
> > Isaiah, chapter 30 (magic 33)
> >
> > "33": For Tophet is ordained of old; yea, for the king it is prepared;
> > he hath made it deep and large: the pile thereof is fire and much
wood;
> > the breath of the LORD, like a stream of brimstone, doth kindle it."
> >
> > Chinese when making gunpowder and not know what it was this
saltpetre,
> > etc., it would bakcfire and their faces would be burned,
> > etc..........from the sudden explosions -
> >
> >
> > Revelation, chapter 20
> >
> > "10": And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire
> > and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall
be
> > tormented day and night for ever and ever. "
> >
> >
> > Hellsfire and Brimstone - Barabas who was set free ended up
working in
> > the sulfur mines - Sicily is chief exporter of sulfur or was at one time
> > in one research item I had....SICILY - the Mob said Give Us
Barabas and
> > they killed Christ - and JFK - and had JFK lived and not all of our
best
> > killed and murdered - what would it be like today - how many
remember
> > days of JFK - medicare for the old, and the older people loved him for
> > it and waited for its coming into reality.
> >
> > Now today all talk is genocide, euthenasia, A TIME TO KILL AND A
TIME TO
> > TEAR DOWN....Murder Inc., aka International Development and the
UN
> > nothing but the center of cooirdinated Genocide.....who is murdering
> > Africa?
> >
> > That question was asked in 1973 WHO IS MURDERING ANGOLA
and nobody gave
> > a damn.
> >
> > Imagine how absolutely quiet it would be today if the PEOPLE DID
NOT
> > HAVE THE INTERNET.....for you know the people's mailbag was
even
> > "censored and monitored" - the Letters to the Editor......
> >
> > Avian Flu - Bird fly......
> >
> > when all the time, it was the blood that was poisoned....i.e. the
West
> > Nile Virus in USA - THE BLOOD BANKS WERE POLLUTED WITH
ISRAELI STRAIN
> > WEST NILE VIRUS for you see Gephardt asked "you mean there is
no test
> > for West Nile Virus being given".....no there was not - he said get
them
> > and then he withdrew about that time as I recall from running for
> > President - Apollo 21 was doomed at that point.
> >
> > Until now.
> >
> > Bird Flu interpretted means maybe more canceorus birds to be put
on
> > market for human consumption.
> >
> > In the streets of a "malasian" country - it showed a chicken shop
and
> > this guy pulled a dead chicken out of a cage and tossed it in the
> > street.......no doubt some dog or hungry person picked it up - it was
> > dead.....
> >
> > In his favor at least he tossed out the chicken who died
from "unknown
> > causes" and did not put it in the chop suey or chow mean or
whatever
> > they do.
> >
> > Its like that West Nile Virus when Giuliani sprayed the skies of NYC
> > with that garbage......
> >
> > when all the time the blood banks were being poisoned by brokers in
> > blood....with love from Israel and with love from Bill Clinton...
> >
> > now think undertakers stealing body organs when NO TESTS ARE
GIVEN -
> >
> > VECTOR FOCES?
> >
> > Deadly influenza - and as said, Merck Medical Manual published
prior to
> > 1969, noted that the great epidemic after WWII more died from fear
of
> > the plague, than the plague.....did fear drive them to the
humanitarians
> > with the big whips and needles or what?
> >
> > RIGHT NOW LET LME SAY THIS - I DISCOVERED THE CAUSE
OF A BABY 3 YEARS
> > OLD ENDING UP IN EMERGENCY CENTER RESPIRATORY
AILMENTS......
> >
> > CANDLES FROM CHINA - and my neighbor called one night, just a
kid - he
> > thought he was dying - he lives alone and he said when he put his
head
> > out the window he was all okay....I SAID DO YOU HAVE ANY
CANDLES LIT?
> >
> > He said all over the house.
> >
> > IT WAS THE SAME BRAND OF CANDLES AND FROM WHENCE
THESE CANDLES/
> >
> > RED CHINA.....they made me sick too the ones that are extremely
oily and
> > waxy -
> >
> > Killing us softly - but when these candles this silent "killers" set off
> > a fire alarm and nobdy knew what was wrong, no smoke, but people
> > coughing.....there it was a huge burning candle that burned to the
oil -
> > made in Canada and discontinued use of these candles - THE
CHILD WAS
> > CURED OF HIS RESPIRATORY AILMENTS.
> >
> > All this with love from China.....
> >
> > poison candles, abortion pills, gunpowder, made with saltpetre - the
> > ultmate birth control and genocider....wehter by pill or by bullet.
> >
> > so this is a jig saw puzzle - but it fits.
> >
> > I THINK THE ENGLISH USED GUNPOWER IN THE WATERS
MAYBE DELIBERATELY....
> >
> > but multiple biriths when birth control pills were stopped being used
by
> > many mothers....and multiple births after the black death - in the
UK -
> > strange when ssaltpetre seems to be the common denominator -
and "final
> > solutions" of the alchemists?
> >
> > Abortion pills - wonder if there is saltpetre and what else - what are
> > in these pills - like birth control pills -
> >
> > then ask how do they make seedless oranges and watermelons?
And even
> > grapes when the seeds contain the essense of life?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡†
> > THE WHITE ROSE ROSALYN CASTLE
> > ‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡†
> >
>

Hello again UncBob - may I call you Unc Bob?

Anyway - I was reading some stuff on the web for this Bird flu -
something really wrong here and it occured to me Red China has long
engaged in the weather modification program and has caused some near
disasters with same and I imagine they only bleed, when they kill
"THEM".

Their Own.

FIREWORKS - gunpoweder, sulfur, salt petre - nice stuff for genocide,
toss in the abortion pills and the  birth control pills and each seem to
share a common denominator alright - GENOCIDE AND DEPOPULATION of
course, bibilical proportions because this is the Master Plan.

It occured to me FIREWORKS - Chinese New Year and our Fourth of July and
all the fireworks and the smell of "brimstone" in the air this stuff is
so dangerous it is beyond belief......

But what if just think if it would be used in genocide, how easy to load
up fireworks with a lot of bugs, etc.

Chinese made toys out of gunpowder - but I think and I really believe
this that this gunpowder ws dumped into the waters and caused the
multiple births maybe after multiple deaths?

Someone with a great brain would have fun going into that for nobody to
my knowledge has ever put it all together as part of the Puzzle -
Portraits in Genocide and Death?

Cooper and BEHOLD, THE DEAD HORSE (or was that Pale Horse) - these Four
Horsemen - the horse of a different color.....Chariots of
Fire.........something in the bible too always puzzled me -


Isaiah, chapter 60

"8": Who are these that fly as a cloud, and as the doves to their
windows? "

"Moreover, in the face of desperate WHO efforts to geographically
contain the avian pandemic by destroying infected bird populations, the
virus has literally taken flight. H5N1 has been identified in dead
herons, gulls, egrets, hawks and pigeons.

Like West Nile, it has wings with which can cross oceans and potentially
infect bird populations everywhere."

Note parallel lines - wings of death can cross oceans ........so can big
planes with chemtrails...


Who ae these that fly as a cloud and as the doves to their windows -
MESSENGERS, HOMING PIDGEONS?

Note these geese who are CARRYING CHIPS - AND MONITORED.....like cattle
re mad cow disease?

Setting the stage - camera's please....ACT I - to "final curtains"

"Every spring, millions of migratory birds leave South-East Asia and
head north across China to their summer nesting grounds. The fear now is
that many more than the 178 geese which died may be carrying H5N1".

178 geesE MAY be what?   What about the poisonous CHEMTRAILS WHICH ADD
TO ALREADY CAUSING PROBLEMS -
"8": Who are these that fly as a cloud, and as the doves to their
windows? "

BRINING DISEASE AND WINGS OF DEATH?


Even Homing Pigeons could be used to spread disease delierately - think
about them traveling to and fron from one designated place to another
and returning with a message....but birds follow a schedule - I used to
love to watch thousands of birds in flighfor winer - like those aboard
the Titanic were returning from their seasonal tfrom Upper Egypt - they
too flew to warmer countries - a regular routine to escape winter....

Swallows always return to Capistrano and the Buzzards, Ohio we have our
Hinckley, Ohio where in March of each year on nearly a precise date, our
Buzzards return.....and you have never seen a uglier bunch - looks like
our House of Representativs on a retreat?

So birds Avian Flu birds can be carriers alright in more ways than one
and Fireworks laced with virus, or even BULLETS laced with virus.

But these chemtrails are poisonous and I speak from first hand
experience there.

That day I became ill the sky over head was unbelievable - and wouldn't
you know I had an appointment at six - and it was horrible - my eyes
were affected but  am a very healthy person in many many ways - and I
just had a cold which was not a cold...like the burning of the candles
which made me cough and cough until we discovered what it was WITH LOVE
FROM CHINA POISONED CANDLES - like Roman Candle Fireworks - this stuff
is deadly and people use them for toys.

Here is a small item on this Avian Flu or Bird Flu - Homing pigeons,
geese all follow same routes - currents in the air and get in these jet
streams I bet if they go that high like sea animals get into the two
underground streams.

Those planes up there with their poison could be killing millions of
birds.

And yet one bird in a jet engine can bring it down.

Big bird that is.

Billions of birds and yet for nearly all summer I have seen so few - for
a brief while my red birds returned and hit on the windows.....and were
wild acting and blue jays but they are gone again.   So quiet.

Too quiet today.

So  -  how easy to set birds loose carrying man made virus......for they
know they arrivan and departures by seasons.....



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By Stan at 5:12 pm, 5/23/05
China bird flu could 'cause mayhem'
By Rupert Wingfield-Hayes

BBC News, Beijing

The Chinese government says there is no need to be alarmed. So far, the
only deaths reported from the latest bird flu outbreak are 178 wild
geese found on the shores of Lake Qinghai earlier this month.

There are no reported cases of the disease among China's domestic
poultry, let alone any cases of human infection.
But if there is no reason to be alarmed, why has China rushed to shut
down all its national parks, sealed off Lake Qinghai, and ordered the
vaccination of millions of poultry across vast areas of western China?

The reason is the potential this virus has to cause mayhem. The virus in
question is known by the code name H5N1, and it is extremely deadly, not
just to birds, but to humans.

On Monday, Vietnam confirmed a further death from the virus, bringing
the total in South-East Asia to 54. Up to now outbreaks of the virus
have been largely confined to southern China and South-East Asia.

Slaughter

The first outbreak was in Hong Kong in 1996. Every single chicken in the
territory was slaughtered to bring the outbreak under control.

Tens of millions more have been slaughtered in Thailand, Vietnam and
Cambodia. But H5N1 has not been contained.

It continues to pop up all over South-East Asia, and has now been
discovered among migratory birds 2,000 kilometres away on the edge of
the Tibetan plateau.

H5N1 BIRD FLU VIRUS

Principally an avian disease, first seen in humans in Hong Kong, 1997

Almost all human cases thought to be contracted from birds
Isolated cases of human-to-human transmission in Hong Kong and Vietnam,
but none confirmed

Every spring, millions of migratory birds leave South-East Asia and head
north across China to their summer nesting grounds. The fear now is that
many more than the 178 geese which died may be carrying H5N1.

Fifty-four human deaths don't sound many. In fact, bird flu has so far
proved very poor at spreading to humans. Almost all of those who died
had been in close daily contact with infected chickens and ducks.

But that may change. Viruses constantly mutate. Already H5N1 has mutated
into a form that can pass from bird to human. Next it may mutate again
into a form that can pass from human to human.

If it does, the scenario is terrifying. A new and deadly flu epidemic
would break out. It would spread around the world in a matter of weeks.
No-one would have any natural resistance to the virus.

Tens, perhaps hundreds of millions would be hospitalised. Anywhere
between two and fifty million people could die.

The world is overdue for a new "flu pandemic". Many scientists now say
it is not a matter of if, but when. No one has died in China from this
latest outbreak. But that is no reason to feel reassured.

***************
Here is a piece from Mike Davis last year on bird flu. -SG

Published on Thursday, September 30, 2004 by CommonDreams.org
The Monster at the Door
by Mike Davis

As in a classic 1950s sci-fi thriller, our world is imperiled by a
terrifying monster. Scientists try to sound the alarm, but politicians
ignore the threat until its too late. Indifference ultimately turns into
panic.

The monster, of course, is H5N1, the lethal avian flu that first emerged
in 1997 in Hong Kong and is now entrenched - in an even more lethal
strain - in a half dozen Southeast Asian countries. It has recently
killed scores of farmers and poultry workers who have had direct contact
with sick birds.

For seven years researchers have warned that H5N1 would eventually fall
in love with a human influenza virus in the body of sick person (or
possibly a pig) and produce a mutant offspring that could travel at
pandemic velocity from human to human.

The media episodically gives page fifteen coverage to these warnings,
which, at most, cause a small shudder before readers turn the page to
more important stories about Paris Hilton's sex video or John Kerry's
war record.

Ironically, in our 'culture of fear' - with Ashcroft and Ridge
ceaselessly ranting that the terrorist apocalypse is nigh - the least
attention is given to the threat that is truly most threatening.

On 14 September, Dr. Shigeru Omi, the World Health Organization's (WHO)
regional director for the western Pacific, tried to shake complacency
with an urgent warning that human-to-human transmission of avian flu was
a "high possibility."

Two weeks later (28 September), grim-faced Thai officials revealed that
the dreaded viral leap had already occurred. A young mother, who had
died on 20 September, most likely had contracted virus directly from her
dying child.

A crucial threshold has been crossed. Of course, as Thai officials
hastened to point out, one isolated case doesn't make a pandemic.
Human-to-human avian flu would need a certain critical mass, a minimum
initial incidence, before it could begin to decimate the world.

The precedent always invoked to illustrate how this might happen is the
1918-19 influenza pandemic: the single greatest mortality event in human
history. In only 24 weeks, a deadly avian flu strain killed from 2 to 5
per cent of humanity (50 to 100 million people - including 675,000
Americans) from the Aleutians to Patagonia.

But some researchers worry that H5N1 is actually an even more deadly
threat than H1N1 (the 1918 virus).

First of all, this flu - at least in its bird-to-human form - is a far
more vicious killer.

In 1918-19, 2.5 per cent of infected Americans died. In contrast, more
than 70 per cent of this year's H5N1 cases (30 out of 42) have perished:
a lethality comparable to ebola fever and other nightmare emergent
diseases.

The Center for Disease Control has estimated that a new pandemic would
infect 40 to 100 million Americans.

Multiply that by a 70 per cent kill rate and ponder your family's
future.

Secondly, as the WHO has repeatedly emphasized, the avian flu seems to
have conquered an ecological niche of unprecedented dimension. The rise
of factory poultry farming in Asia over the last decade, and the
dangerously unhygienic conditions in farms and plants, have created a
perfect incubator for the new virus.

Moreover, in the face of desperate WHO efforts to geographically contain
the avian pandemic by destroying infected bird populations, the virus
has literally taken flight. H5N1 has been identified in dead herons,
gulls, egrets, hawks and pigeons.

Like West Nile, it has wings with which can cross oceans and potentially
infect bird populations everywhere.

In August, furthermore, the Chinese announced that the avian strain had
been detected in pigs. This is a particularly ominous development since
pigs, susceptible to both bird and human flu, are likely crucibles for
genetic 'reassortment' between viruses.

Containment seems to have failed.
Thirdly, a new pandemic will use modern transportation. The 1918-19
virus was slowed by ocean-going transport and the isolation of rural
society. Its latterday descendant could jet-hop the globe in a week.

Finally, the mega-slums of Asia, Africa and Latin America are like so
many lakes of gasoline awaiting the spark of H5N1.

Third World urbanization has created unparalleled high-density
concentrations of poor people in ill health, ripe for viral slaughter.

What are the frontlines of defense against such an unthinkable
catastrophe?
One of the most urgent tasks is to ensure that poultry workers in
Southeast Asia receive ordinary flu vaccinations in order to prevent
possible mixing of human and avian genes. But current production of
seasonal flu vaccine is mostly consigned to the richer countries, and
Thai officials have complained that they cannot obtain enough donated
doses to conduct a systematic vaccination.

Meanwhile a prototype H5N1 vaccine is under development, but only in
quantities to safeguard frontline public health and safety workers in
the United States, Europe and Japan.

Pharmaceutal companies to date have not found sufficient profit
incentives to increase their output of vaccines and virals. As the New
York Times emphasized last Thursday (30 September), there has been a
disastrous "mismatch of public health needs and private control of
production of vaccines and drugs."

Indeed last April, at a historic
WHO-convened summit about global defenses against a possible pandemic,
leading experts expressed their deep pessimism about existing
preparations.

"The consultation concluded that supplies of vaccine, the first line of
defence for preventing high morbidity and mortality, would be grossly
inadequate at the start of a pandemic and well into the first wave of
international spread."

"Limited production capacity largely concentrated in Europe and North
America," the WHO report continues,"would exacerbate the problem of
inequitable access."

"Inequitable access,' of course, is a euphemism for the death of a large
segment of humanity: a callous triage already prepared in advance of the
H5N1 plague by indifference to third world pubic health.

This is the moral context of the deafening silence about the H5N1 threat
in the current presidential debate. Although the General Accounting
Office recently concluded that "no state is fully prepared to respond to
major public health threat," the Kerry camp has failed to sound the
tocsin about the Bush administration's lethargic preparations.

Only Ralph Nader appears to be fully awake to the peril. In a letter to
President Bush in August, he repeated scientific warnings that the "The
Big One" was coming and urged a 'presidential conference on influenza
epidemics and pandemics" to confront "the looming threats to the health
of millions of people."

It has become fashionable, of course, in some 'progressive' circles to
excoriate Nader's presence in the campaign as divisive egoism. But who
else is warning us about the Monster at the door?
Mike Davis is the author of Dead Cities: And Other Tales as well as
Ecology of Fear, and co-author of Under the Perfect Sun: The San Diego
Tourists Never See, among other books.

Copyright © 2004 Mike Davis

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"Anywhere between two and fifty million people could die."

There are 25 million people with AIDS. 40% of the population in many
countries.

And it keeps mutating to kill people faster. I know people who were
among the first diagnosed and are still alive yet more recent cases are
killing people in as fast as 2 years. But nobody is worried anymore
because they know if they are rich and have access to condoms and clean
needles then it will only kill social scum and people in the third
world.
Comment by blah — 5/23/2005 @ 6:38 pm
The response of the capitalist world to AIDS will be remembered in
history alongside the holocaust. It has not been merely neglect, but
intentional neglect, with a genocidal purpose.
Comment by Stan — 5/23/2005 @ 8:19 pm
When Hong Kong was hit by SARS, its hospital system - a modern,
first-world hospital system - was almost overwhelmed.

This from a disease that in reality was pretty difficult to catch and
had infected only several hundred people. Many of those who died were
overworked hospital staff apparetnly left with inadequate stocks of
protective equipment which they were forced to reuse. Hey, that's the
petty minded penny pinching attitude the public sector gets straight
from the private sector under capitalism! 'False economy' is the phrase.

Comment by eric — 5/23/2005 @ 11:31 pm
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Rosalyn...funny..strange ..that you would mention the Black Plague...after watching History Channel special last night it has been much on my mind (NOTE: this group began the next day)...I have been agooglin'...Very interesting points you make re: Roger Bacon// EdwardIII//gunpowder//fertility (&any ex-military can vouch for salt peter's effectiveness)

Couple of quick points ..

1.) In my mind, perhaps the mother of all conspiracies has to do with population control.  I can theorize that since the mid 19thC..Civil War/Spanish Flu/WWI//WWII//Russian Rev//Stalin//etc.. our knowledge and "technology" was such that a human plan could have been at work...but, how can we account for the Plagues of 1347 and 1665? (which, incidentally, are generally attributed to different agents..fleas vs airborne)  before we even had germ theory....Perhaps our technology was  greater than history books remember?

and 2.) The first hour and half of last night's PLAGUE special dealt with the spread..out of China/Blk Sea/Venice/etc and the HORRORS and seemingly almost total morbidity...but the last portion of the program dwelt on the benefits..

a.) as you point out, incredible FERTILITY ..and the survivors that were creating next generation were the healthiest..

b.) Diet changed from grain to fruits/vegetables/even meat

c.) First was precursor to Rennaissance//2nd to Industrial Revolution...not enough bodies to do it the old fashioned way..even Gutenberg mentioned..moveable type was  now a "Mother Necessity"..

No big deal..EXCEPT...every google..egBlk death//Blk Plague death rates//survival rate..plague 1347vs1665..bubonic vs blk death..etc..comes up in the header with the same rosy scenario painted by the documentary's final segment...almost as if written by the same hand..is this the "OFFICIAL LINE"..?

I will research until I can see..no, I'm not nuts.haven't made up mind on anything(other than current AVIAN threat is total b.s without outside NGO/Gov influence)...but one would be naive to and foolish to believe that everything he's been told is factual..

thx for the kind words..keep the wheels turning..Kindest regards..UncBob

ps..you mentioned alchemists, and 15thC Chinese ..try a google on transmutation potassium calcium chicken egg   shell (or crab or lobster or clam) if you want to see something true but not taught..

ditto...  1421 chinese america

--- In Avian2005@yahoogroups.com, Rosalyn_Castle@w... wrote:
>
> They must fly through the air with this Avian blue flu stuff but ducks
> do not travel too far do they to reach from the Halls of Montezuma to
> the Shores of Tripoli?
>
> And now tonight it is said a few ducks, in CANADA have "bird flu" but
> they must test and test to determine if they have the dreadful "Avian
> Flu" or Bird Flu......airborne diseases.....kind of makes you wonder
> about all those Chem Trails up there in the skies and what they are
> really dumping?
>
> First thank you for asking me to join your list - how could I say no to
> such an eloquent letter.
>
> Second I have been trying to remember something I ran across and this is
> pieces of a puzzle - but over 30 years ago I would run into the stranges
> pieces of inormation and when put together it made me wonder THE BLACK
> DEATH, or whatever hit - was it spread deliberately and this is what I
> cannot remember - and need to research it for this is piece meal. stuff.
>
> Edward - the Black Prince, brought the secret of gunpowder to the UK
> maybe around 1300 well way back then way back - forget the years.
>
> For some reason the gunpowder was dumped and they had a lot of
> it........now about this time the plague had hit and people died, it was
> the Bubonic Plague which is caused by rats, etc.........
>
> Now after considerable reserach and no answers, I decided that how did
> they dispose of the "gunpowder"
>
> THEY DUMPED IT IN THE WATER.
>
> Saltpetre was used in gunpowder.
>
> Later I had information that this was used in BIRTH CONTROL PILLS.
>
> In prisons this substance is alleged to have been once given to
> prisoners, at lest in 1968 and 1969 material I had ran across this.
>
> NOW GET THIS - MESSING WITH MOTHER NATURE.......BUT DID SOMEONE KNOW
> SOMETHING WE DID NOT KNOW NOW AND THEN - BUT THE OLD ALCHEMISTS
> KNEW......
>
> It was noted again, that these birth control pills contained this
> substance in gunpowder, saltpetre......
>
> Now after the plague subsided and things returned to normal - It was
> said suddenly after the plague as if a MIRACLE OF GOD....suddenly women
> startedhaving "multiple births".
>
> Women who have used these birth control pills and suddenly stoped taking
> them MANY HAD MULTIPLE BIRTHS, quintuplets, remember how rare these were
> so much so the Dionie Quintuplets became know world wide in the 1930
> period - and of these children some were not let us say, too bright.
>
> CHINA is where they (the Alchemists) are alleged to have experimented
> with this substance we now know as "gunpowder"
>
> Let us say it serves a dual purpose, for it has medicinal
> qualities......it sure as hell is a form of mass genocide in
> wars....CANNON FODDER - fireworks....and how the air reeks with sulfur -
> from rockets to the nuclear bombs (Phineas to Charlemagne to Longinus to
> Hitler to General Patton - and now this Spear of Destiny as it is called
> is in Bush's hands AND THE LEGEND HOLDS TRUE IT IS BOOMERANGING ON HIM)
>
> Now it is my thought here - CHINA IS MAKING OUR BIRTH CONTROL PILLS AND
> ABORTION PILLS.
>
> the secret of gun powder and the Chinese had in their hands life and
> death and they made fireworks - and we make what.
>
> Cannons, big guns, the medicinal qualities are there if used properly,
> but it is all about DEATH.......
>
> The Stars Name was Wormwood - one third of the population dies -
> Cherynobly (sp) Russia this melt down.......bitter waters but it scared
> the hell out of the Russians.....POISONED WATERS.
>
> Nobel Peace Awards - Arts and Sciences (the US Constitution I see how
> Hollywood has such a hold on our economy and country Article I, Section
> 8 - takes in lots of territory, from patents to copyrights to exclusive
> rights - to genocide maybe - medicines and vaccines, and at the end of
> the road the stars about to die get these very special awards for
> humanitarian servicees, i.e. Charlie Chaplin, Gregory Peck who seemed
> more like Mr. UN towards the end - but was he all the time?)
>
> Gunpowder - this would be a good item for someone with more knowledge
> and expertise - to go into.
>
> For the birth control pills, the cannons, the bullets, abortion pills,
> ABORTION PILLS - Red China.
> '
> Abortion pills and genetically engineered foods..........killer seeds
> that kill life, seedless watermelons and oranges, started in the 1970
> period when the Mafia got into Florida groves good - and up comes well
> you see it at the super market.....
>
> Pulp in orange juice is made to be well, unacceptable. Probably more
> nutrition ion the pulp than in the juice and I wonder what they use the
> pulp for - but all this destruction.
>
> Now this bird flu........
>
> West Nile Virus - Guiliani had planes SPRAY NEW YORK CITY - in insane
> asylums they used to turn hoses on inmates and they wee inmates, to give
> them baths.....NYC was bathed in this poison....it was said for what -
> mosquitoes...
>
> Well that West Nile Virus and they did not publicize it was ISRAELI
> DESIGNER BRAND STRAIN.....so this means they were dumping this Ethiopian
> blood on the good old USA because they would not use it and had
> previously been caught dumping same and the Ethiopians raised holy
> hell.....the Israelis did not refuse their blood, but knew it was
> polluted - and did not want to hurt feelings, by saying your blood is
> polluted it carried HIV/AIDS, Encephalitis, (west nile virus) - and
> other less if that is possible desirable disease.
>
> Now going back to food for chickens and fouls - start with
> chickens.....in old reports I had in that same 1960 time frame and 1970
> - 50 percent OF ALL CHICKENS ARE DISEASED AND HAVE CANCER.
>
> Now the question to me would be how do they get the cancer, but at the
> time someone in Congress was pusing to sell this cancerous chicken TO
> THE PUBLIC.....ever note how Colonel Sanders Chickens suddenly became
> like taking home a bag of bones....ever notice how skinny this Tyson
> stuff is most of the time, I will not buy it for
>
> there is something now when I pass these meant counters that absolutely
> repels me.
> Yoder Amish Chicken is so fat and plump and Tyson turns my
> stomach....and so does Colonel Sanders - even the old Colonel bailed out
> about this selling cancerous chick.
>
> OH CANCER IS NOT CONTAGIOUS IT IS OKAY TO EAT CANCEROUS CHICKENS.
>
> I wrote a letter to the Editor and got published and asked one question?
>
> "If cancer is not contagious, then how do all these chickens get cancer,
> from something they ate".......now whos says I am not logical. So it
> ws a loaded question and i got a lot of phone calls.....
>
> Something you eat, or you drink, sharing of cocaine needles by users -
> causes AIDS? No it does not cause AIDSi - a carrier spreads the
> disease by the sharing of a drop of blood......OR WAS THE COCAINE AND IS
> THE COCAINE INVOLVED AND IS IT A KILLER when used in such a manner.
>
> All I have to say is this - CHINA - life is cheap.......how many people
> have been genocided of which we are not aware.
>
> GUNPOWDER - the ultimate cause of genocide, from abortions of babies to
> cannon fodder - and when it is time to "replenish" the world - suddenly
> TWINS and Multiple births - quintuplets, sextuplets, quadtruplets....IT
> WAS A MIRACLE THEY SAID.
>
> IT IS SAID SATAN SMELLED LIKE BRIMSTONE.....
>
>
> Psalms, psalm 11
>
> "6": Upon the wicked he shall rain snares, fire and brimstone, and an
> horrible tempest: this shall be the portion of their cup."
>
> 911 - Isiah 29 and 30 timed to 911
>
> here is the TOPHET where the towers once stood BRIMSTONE - satanic.
>
>
> Isaiah, chapter 30 (magic 33)
>
> "33": For Tophet is ordained of old; yea, for the king it is prepared;
> he hath made it deep and large: the pile thereof is fire and much wood;
> the breath of the LORD, like a stream of brimstone, doth kindle it."
>
> Chinese when making gunpowder and not know what it was this saltpetre,
> etc., it would bakcfire and their faces would be burned,
> etc..........from the sudden explosions -
>
>
> Revelation, chapter 20
>
> "10": And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire
> and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be
> tormented day and night for ever and ever. "
>
>
> Hellsfire and Brimstone - Barabas who was set free ended up working in
> the sulfur mines - Sicily is chief exporter of sulfur or was at one time
> in one research item I had....SICILY - the Mob said Give Us Barabas and
> they killed Christ - and JFK - and had JFK lived and not all of our best
> killed and murdered - what would it be like today - how many remember
> days of JFK - medicare for the old, and the older people loved him for
> it and waited for its coming into reality.
>
> Now today all talk is genocide, euthenasia, A TIME TO KILL AND A TIME TO
> TEAR DOWN....Murder Inc., aka International Development and the UN
> nothing but the center of cooirdinated Genocide.....who is murdering
> Africa?
>
> That question was asked in 1973 WHO IS MURDERING ANGOLA and nobody gave
> a damn.
>
> Imagine how absolutely quiet it would be today if the PEOPLE DID NOT
> HAVE THE INTERNET.....for you know the people's mailbag was even
> "censored and monitored" - the Letters to the Editor......
>
> Avian Flu - Bird fly......
>
> when all the time, it was the blood that was poisoned....i.e. the West
> Nile Virus in USA - THE BLOOD BANKS WERE POLLUTED WITH ISRAELI STRAIN
> WEST NILE VIRUS for you see Gephardt asked "you mean there is no test
> for West Nile Virus being given".....no there was not - he said get them
> and then he withdrew about that time as I recall from running for
> President - Apollo 21 was doomed at that point.
>
> Until now.
>
> Bird Flu interpretted means maybe more canceorus birds to be put on
> market for human consumption.
>
> In the streets of a "malasian" country - it showed a chicken shop and
> this guy pulled a dead chicken out of a cage and tossed it in the
> street.......no doubt some dog or hungry person picked it up - it was
> dead.....
>
> In his favor at least he tossed out the chicken who died from "unknown
> causes" and did not put it in the chop suey or chow mean or whatever
> they do.
>
> Its like that West Nile Virus when Giuliani sprayed the skies of NYC
> with that garbage......
>
> when all the time the blood banks were being poisoned by brokers in
> blood....with love from Israel and with love from Bill Clinton...
>
> now think undertakers stealing body organs when NO TESTS ARE GIVEN -
>
> VECTOR FOCES?
>
> Deadly influenza - and as said, Merck Medical Manual published prior to
> 1969, noted that the great epidemic after WWII more died from fear of
> the plague, than the plague.....did fear drive them to the humanitarians
> with the big whips and needles or what?
>
> RIGHT NOW LET LME SAY THIS - I DISCOVERED THE CAUSE OF A BABY 3 YEARS
> OLD ENDING UP IN EMERGENCY CENTER RESPIRATORY AILMENTS......
>
> CANDLES FROM CHINA - and my neighbor called one night, just a kid - he
> thought he was dying - he lives alone and he said when he put his head
> out the window he was all okay....I SAID DO YOU HAVE ANY CANDLES LIT?
>
> He said all over the house.
>
> IT WAS THE SAME BRAND OF CANDLES AND FROM WHENCE THESE CANDLES/
>
> RED CHINA.....they made me sick too the ones that are extremely oily and
> waxy -
>
> Killing us softly - but when these candles this silent "killers" set off
> a fire alarm and nobdy knew what was wrong, no smoke, but people
> coughing.....there it was a huge burning candle that burned to the oil -
> made in Canada and discontinued use of these candles - THE CHILD WAS
> CURED OF HIS RESPIRATORY AILMENTS.
>
> All this with love from China.....
>
> poison candles, abortion pills, gunpowder, made with saltpetre - the
> ultmate birth control and genocider....wehter by pill or by bullet.
>
> so this is a jig saw puzzle - but it fits.
>
> I THINK THE ENGLISH USED GUNPOWER IN THE WATERS MAYBE DELIBERATELY....
>
> but multiple biriths when birth control pills were stopped being used by
> many mothers....and multiple births after the black death - in the UK -
> strange when ssaltpetre seems to be the common denominator - and "final
> solutions" of the alchemists?
>
> Abortion pills - wonder if there is saltpetre and what else - what are
> in these pills - like birth control pills -
>
> then ask how do they make seedless oranges and watermelons? And even
> grapes when the seeds contain the essense of life?
>
>
>
>
>
>
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They must fly through the air with this Avian blue flu stuff but ducks
do not travel too far do they to reach from the Halls of Montezuma to
the Shores of Tripoli?

And now tonight it is said a few ducks, in CANADA have "bird flu" but
they must test and test to determine if they have the dreadful "Avian
Flu" or Bird Flu......airborne diseases.....kind of makes you wonder
about all those Chem Trails up there in the skies and what they are
really dumping?

First thank you for asking me to join your list - how could I say no to
such an eloquent letter.

Second I have been trying to remember something I ran across and this is
pieces of a puzzle - but over 30 years ago I would run into the stranges
pieces of inormation and when put together it made me wonder THE BLACK
DEATH, or whatever hit - was it spread deliberately and this is what I
cannot remember - and need to research it for this is piece meal. stuff.

Edward - the Black Prince, brought the secret of gunpowder to the UK
maybe around 1300 well way back then way back - forget the years.

For some reason the gunpowder was dumped and they had a lot of
it........now about this time the plague had hit and people died, it was
the Bubonic Plague which is caused by rats, etc.........

Now after considerable reserach and no answers, I decided that how did
they dispose of the "gunpowder"

THEY DUMPED IT IN THE WATER.

Saltpetre was used in gunpowder.

Later I had information that this was used in BIRTH CONTROL PILLS.

In prisons this substance is alleged to have been once given to
prisoners, at lest  in 1968 and 1969 material I had ran across this.

NOW GET THIS - MESSING WITH MOTHER NATURE.......BUT DID SOMEONE KNOW
SOMETHING WE DID NOT KNOW NOW AND THEN - BUT THE OLD ALCHEMISTS
KNEW......

It was noted again, that these birth control pills contained this
substance in gunpowder, saltpetre......

Now after the plague subsided and things returned to normal - It was
said suddenly after the plague as if a MIRACLE OF GOD....suddenly women
startedhaving "multiple births".

Women who have used these birth control pills and suddenly stoped taking
them MANY HAD MULTIPLE BIRTHS, quintuplets, remember how rare these were
so much so the Dionie Quintuplets became know world wide in the 1930
period - and of these children some were not let us say, too bright.

CHINA is where they (the Alchemists) are alleged to have experimented
with this substance we now know as "gunpowder"

Let us say it serves a dual purpose, for it has medicinal
qualities......it sure as hell is a form of mass genocide in
wars....CANNON FODDER - fireworks....and how the air reeks with sulfur -
from rockets to the nuclear bombs (Phineas to Charlemagne to Longinus to
Hitler to General Patton - and now this Spear of Destiny as it is called
is in Bush's hands AND THE LEGEND HOLDS TRUE IT IS BOOMERANGING ON HIM)

Now it is my thought here - CHINA IS MAKING OUR BIRTH CONTROL PILLS AND
ABORTION PILLS.

the secret of gun powder and the Chinese had in their hands life and
death and they made fireworks - and we make what.

Cannons, big guns, the medicinal qualities are there if used properly,
but it is all about DEATH.......

The Stars Name was Wormwood - one third of the population dies -
Cherynobly (sp) Russia this melt down.......bitter waters but it scared
the hell out of the Russians.....POISONED WATERS.

Nobel Peace Awards - Arts and Sciences (the US Constitution I see how
Hollywood has such a hold on our economy and country Article I, Section
8 - takes in lots of territory, from patents to copyrights to exclusive
rights - to genocide maybe - medicines and vaccines, and at the end of
the road the stars about to die get these very special awards for
humanitarian servicees, i.e. Charlie Chaplin, Gregory Peck who seemed
more like Mr. UN towards the end - but was he all the time?)

Gunpowder - this would be a good item for someone with more knowledge
and expertise - to go into.

For the birth control pills, the cannons, the bullets, abortion pills,
ABORTION PILLS - Red China.
'
Abortion pills and genetically engineered foods..........killer seeds
that kill life, seedless watermelons and oranges, started in the 1970
period when the Mafia got into Florida groves good - and up comes well
you see it at the super market.....

Pulp in orange juice is made to be well, unacceptable.   Probably more
nutrition ion the pulp than in the juice and I wonder what they use the
pulp for - but all this destruction.

Now this bird flu........

West Nile Virus - Guiliani had planes SPRAY NEW YORK CITY - in insane
asylums they used to turn hoses on inmates and they wee inmates, to give
them baths.....NYC was bathed in this poison....it was said for what -
mosquitoes...

Well that West Nile Virus and they did not publicize it was ISRAELI
DESIGNER BRAND STRAIN.....so this means they were dumping this Ethiopian
blood on the good old USA because they would not use it and had
previously been caught dumping same and the Ethiopians raised holy
hell.....the Israelis did not refuse their blood, but knew it was
polluted - and did not want to hurt feelings, by saying your blood is
polluted it carried HIV/AIDS, Encephalitis, (west nile virus) - and
other less if that is possible desirable disease.

Now going back to food for chickens and fouls - start with
chickens.....in old reports I had in that same 1960 time frame and 1970
- 50 percent OF ALL CHICKENS ARE DISEASED AND HAVE CANCER.

Now the question to me would be how do they get the cancer, but at the
time someone in Congress was pusing to sell this cancerous chicken TO
THE PUBLIC.....ever note how Colonel Sanders Chickens suddenly became
like taking home a bag of bones....ever notice how skinny this Tyson
stuff is most of the time, I will not buy it for

there is something now when I pass these meant counters that absolutely
repels me.
Yoder Amish Chicken is so fat and plump and Tyson turns my
stomach....and so does Colonel Sanders - even the old Colonel bailed out
about this selling cancerous chick.

OH CANCER IS NOT CONTAGIOUS IT IS OKAY TO EAT CANCEROUS CHICKENS.

I wrote a letter to the Editor and got published and asked one question?

"If cancer is not contagious, then how do all these chickens get cancer,
from something they ate".......now whos says I am not logical.    So it
ws a loaded question and i got a lot of phone calls.....

Something you eat, or you drink, sharing of cocaine needles by users -
causes AIDS?   No it does not cause AIDSi - a carrier spreads the
disease by the sharing of a drop of blood......OR WAS THE COCAINE AND IS
THE COCAINE INVOLVED AND IS IT A KILLER when used in such a manner.

All I have to say is this - CHINA - life is cheap.......how many people
have been genocided of which we are not aware.

GUNPOWDER - the ultimate cause of genocide, from abortions of babies to
cannon fodder - and when it is time to "replenish" the world - suddenly
TWINS and Multiple births - quintuplets, sextuplets, quadtruplets....IT
WAS A MIRACLE THEY SAID.

IT IS SAID SATAN SMELLED LIKE BRIMSTONE.....


Psalms, psalm 11

"6": Upon the wicked he shall rain snares, fire and brimstone, and an
horrible tempest: this shall be the portion of their cup."

911 - Isiah 29 and 30 timed to 911

here is the TOPHET where the towers once stood BRIMSTONE - satanic.


Isaiah, chapter 30 (magic 33)

"33": For Tophet is ordained of old; yea, for the king it is prepared;
he hath made it deep and large: the pile thereof is fire and much wood;
the breath of the LORD, like a stream of brimstone, doth kindle it."

Chinese when making gunpowder and not know what it was this saltpetre,
etc., it would bakcfire and their faces would be burned,
etc..........from the sudden explosions -


Revelation, chapter 20

"10": And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire
and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be
tormented day and night for ever and ever. "


Hellsfire and Brimstone - Barabas who was set free ended up working in
the sulfur mines - Sicily is chief exporter of sulfur or was at one time
in one research item I had....SICILY - the Mob said Give Us Barabas and
they killed Christ - and JFK - and had JFK lived and not all of our best
killed and murdered - what would it be like today - how many remember
days of JFK - medicare for the old, and the older people loved him for
it and waited for its coming into reality.

Now today all talk is genocide, euthenasia, A TIME TO KILL AND A TIME TO
TEAR DOWN....Murder Inc., aka International Development and the UN
nothing but the center of cooirdinated Genocide.....who is murdering
Africa?

That question was asked in 1973 WHO IS MURDERING ANGOLA and nobody gave
a damn.

Imagine how absolutely quiet it would be today if the PEOPLE DID NOT
HAVE THE INTERNET.....for you know the people's mailbag was even
"censored and monitored" - the Letters to the Editor......

Avian Flu - Bird fly......

when all the time, it was the blood that was poisoned....i.e. the West
Nile Virus in USA - THE BLOOD BANKS WERE POLLUTED WITH ISRAELI STRAIN
WEST NILE VIRUS for you see Gephardt asked "you mean there is no test
for West Nile Virus being given".....no there was not - he said get them
and then he withdrew about that time as I recall from running for
President - Apollo 21 was doomed at that point.

Until now.

Bird Flu interpretted means maybe more canceorus birds to be put on
market for human consumption.

In the streets of a "malasian" country - it showed a chicken shop and
this guy pulled a dead chicken out of a cage and tossed it in the
street.......no doubt some dog or hungry person picked it up - it was
dead.....

In his favor at least he tossed out the chicken who died from "unknown
causes" and did not put it in the chop suey or chow mean or whatever
they do.

Its like that West Nile Virus when Giuliani sprayed the skies of NYC
with that garbage......

when all the time the blood banks were being poisoned by brokers in
blood....with love from Israel and with love from Bill Clinton...

now think undertakers stealing body organs when NO TESTS ARE GIVEN -

VECTOR FOCES?

Deadly influenza - and as said, Merck Medical Manual published prior to
1969, noted that the great epidemic after WWII more died from fear of
the plague, than the plague.....did fear drive them to the humanitarians
with the big whips and needles or what?

RIGHT NOW LET LME SAY THIS - I DISCOVERED THE CAUSE OF A BABY 3 YEARS
OLD ENDING UP IN EMERGENCY CENTER RESPIRATORY AILMENTS......

CANDLES FROM CHINA - and my neighbor called one night, just a kid - he
thought he was dying - he lives alone and he said when he put his head
out the window he was all okay....I SAID DO YOU HAVE ANY CANDLES LIT?

He said all over the house.

IT WAS THE SAME BRAND OF CANDLES AND FROM WHENCE THESE CANDLES/

RED CHINA.....they made me sick too the ones that are extremely oily and
waxy -

Killing us softly - but when these candles this silent "killers" set off
a fire alarm and nobdy knew what was wrong, no smoke, but people
coughing.....there it was a huge burning candle that burned to the oil -
made in Canada and discontinued use of these candles - THE CHILD WAS
CURED OF HIS RESPIRATORY AILMENTS.

All this with love from China.....

poison candles, abortion pills, gunpowder, made with saltpetre - the
ultmate birth control and genocider....wehter by pill or by bullet.

so this is a jig saw puzzle - but it fits.

I THINK THE ENGLISH USED GUNPOWER IN THE WATERS MAYBE DELIBERATELY....

but multiple biriths when birth control pills were stopped being used by
many mothers....and multiple births after the black death - in the UK -
strange when ssaltpetre seems to be the common denominator - and "final
solutions" of the alchemists?

Abortion pills - wonder if there is saltpetre and what else - what are
in these pills - like birth control pills -

then ask how do they make seedless oranges and watermelons?   And even
grapes when the seeds contain the essense of life?







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PLEASE...don't blindly line up because innoculation is "mandatory" and you are  threatened with quarantine. Instead, relax, be happy, wash your hands, have some red wine and dark chocolate, and take a coenzyme q-10 and "C"...and

News 14 Charlotte

Bush expected to outline plan to fight flu Standard-Speaker, PA - 8 hours ago ... Tuesday to announce his administration's strategy for preparing ... The Bush administration's long-awaited plan on how to fight the next superflu probably will ... Bush expected to outline plan to fight flu MSNBC Bush Is Expected To Outline Antiflu Plan Washington Post all 316 related »

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The Bush administration's long-awaited plan on how to fight the next superflu probably will include beefed-up attempts to spot human infections early, both here and abroad, and how to isolate the sick.

Governors and mayors will have to decide who will inject stockpiled vaccines into the arms of panicked people.

President Bush is scheduled to visit the National Institutes of Health on Tuesday to announce his administration's strategy on how to prepare for the next flu pandemic, whether it is caused by the bird flu or some other super strain of influenza. Federal health officials have spent the past year updating a national plan on how to do that.