Hi. I'm confused by my son's porphyrin profile. I was hoping someone here might
be able to help.

The Uroporphyrin 1 & 3 were elevated: 22.5
The pentacarboxyporphyrin was slightly elevated: 2.5
But the Coproporphyrins were both in normal range. 4th quintile, but still well
within normal range. (35 for Cp1 and 154 for Cp3).

The result comments read:
A moderate elevation of Uroporphyrin I & III is consistent with stimulation of
the porphyrin pathway. Such stimulation can be due to many pharmaceuticals and
environmental chemicals, including ethanol.
Elevation of 1 of the compounds Pentacarboxyporphyrin, Precoproporphyrin and
Coproporphyrin III is associated with the toxic effects of mercury.The
confirmatory elevation of the Precoproporphyrin/Uroporphyrin I & III ratio is
not found. This may be due to independent factors raising Uroporphyrin I & III
levels.
Pentacarboxyporphyrin is high and other results are high normal. Such patterns
are frequently found in patients with borderline enzyme impairments due to toxic
effects.

So? Do I try chelating? Or try detoxing the environmental toxins? I'm so
confused.

Shannon West, shanwest@...
06/04/2012


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

So this is why my sons serum folate levels are so high,and why he crashes with
every protocol we have tried,
Thank you Tami for all the info,hoping this may be the missing link
Mary
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-----Original Message-----
From: Alberta <gnomederwear@...>
Sender: Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 23:11:41
To: Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com<Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com>
Reply-To: Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Autism-Mercury] Methylation - Tami

Great post, Tami!  Thanks, lots of good info.


On Friday, April 6, 2012, Tami wrote:

> **
>
>
>
> You can try the supplements first and then do the blood test. That is what
> I did with my kids. Just ask your Dr. to test for MTHFR mutations. If they
> won't or insurance won't cover it, you can order it at www.mthfr.net for
> $150.00. The child that didn't have any MTHFR, knew he didn't have it
> because he saw no difference with energy or clearer thinking. He felt the
> same, where my other kids and husband, felt much different and even acted
> different with longer attention spans and showed less stress and anxiety.
>
> When my son, who was 16 at the time, collapsed on the football field, at
> the ER, we asked for him to be tested for MTHFR because I knew I had it. My
> reproductive endocrinologist told me in 2005. As I have said before, it is
> related to stroke, heart attack and DVT. The ER tested him for mono and
> staph infections, as well as MTHFR. He had inactive mono, (a lot of MTHFR
> people as carry mono) and no staph. We were shocked he came back with not
> only my MTHFR mutation, but another one....one from my husband.
>
> Looking back, why didn't the Dr. test my husband...crazy! Back in 2005,
> Dr.'s prescribed Folgard 2.2mg twice a day. Most Dr.'s are still clueless
> and still do it today, although it is toxic to them!
>
> When I got sick, my PPO let me go to any Dr. without a referral, so I made
> appointments with Rheumatoid arthritis, Endocrinologist, neurologist,
> urologist, cardiologist, and everyone said I was okay, except my ultrasound
> for my thyroid came back with 5 nodules. We have thyroid cancer in our
> family and regular folic acid is toxic to MTHFR, and scientific articles
> have evidence of increase in cancers with high doses of regular folic acid
> like I was taking for the last 6 years.
>
> The other day on Dr. Oz, he had a Dr. on that said they are developing a
> stain to be mixed in with folic acid that would show up during laser
> surgery of cancer that made it easier for the Dr.'s to laser the cancer
> cells only. Cancer feeds off folic acid! So wherever cancer is present the
> stain would show up and Dr.'s can laser only the disease and not healthy
> tissue. Cancer cells feed on folic acid. I thought that was so interesting!
> They are trying to have the FDA pass it. I had been poisoning myself for 6
> years!
>
> I share this because I want to point out again that Dr.'s don't always
> know best and they are not up to date on current research. Once our DNA was
> mapped, researchers started to figure out that those with this mutation
> can't use all that folic acid and it just sits there and causes havoc.
>
> The oncologist told me that I should not be taking Folgard and to use only
> methylfolate. I went home and found www.mthfr.net and spoke on the phone
> with Dr. Ben. I then went to my Dr. who is an MD, but has also studied
> homeopathy in France, Chelation with Dr. Buttar and medical nutrition. She
> put me on methyfolate, P5P, Methycobalamin, Vitamin D (5,000), Vital
> nutrients Ultra pure fish oil, nattokinase, probiotics, Milk thistle and
> NAC along with a multi-vitamin. I didn't like her multi because it was in a
> tablet form. I found Garden of Life makes Vitamin Code that is made from
> RAW enzymes. I even called their company to make sure the B vitamins were
> natural.
>
> I would try the supplements. It has been a MIRACLE in my family. Today, at
> my local nutrition store, someone told me that Milk Thistle crosses the
> blood brain barrier. I went to by Jay Robb Protein that is sweetened only
> with stevia. I make protein drinks for my older kids to take their
> supplements. Anyway, here is what I found on Milk Thistle: It said it did
> cross the blood brain barrier!
>
> Silymarin Found to Protect Nerves, Slow Brain Aging Process
> Silymarin is one of a small number of compounds able to cross the
> blood-brain barrier and affect neural function and chemical
> neurotransmitters. Long known for its ability to detoxify the liver,
> silymarin also exerts a powerful protective edge against nerve damage and
> brain preservation. Information from the journal Neurochemistry
> International shows that the nutrient is able to protect delicate glial
> cells in the brain against free radical damage, which occurs as a result of
> low grade bacterial infection common in overweight and obese individuals.
>
> I wonder if my recovery went so fast because of the Milk Thistle. My Dr.
> didn't have me take NAC until the next month. Interesting to think about.
>
> Try adding Milk thistle...and then maybe NAC. Although, I saw the biggest
> miracle, (having no allergies, no pain, no clump in my throat and mold
> taste, painful tingling in my fingers, bursitis, severe depression, NO
> ENERGY, brain fog, etc...) my husband experienced clearer thinking,
> positive thoughts, more energy, ADD went away and he could handle stress.
> He is a CEO and is stressed all the time. He just kept saying, "Why did I
> have to live 43 years without the whole use of my brain and
> neurotransmitters?" If he forgets a day, his brain is foggy, no energy,
> anxiety and ADD return. We both HAVE to take our supplements to survive. We
> feel we have more oxygen in our bodies!
>
> I wish you the best! My son turns 17 next week. He has a pill box. I give
> him Vitamin Code for Men (2 morning, 2 after school) He drinks protein
> drink in the morning. We has spinach, kale or chard, banana, frozen
> berries, yogurt, primal defense probiotics (garden of life), Jay Robb
> protein powder and whole milk. (whole milk has all the enzymes to digest
> the milk and he has no allergies to milk products).
>
> He takes (2) 1,000 mcg of methyfolate (metafolin), (1) P5P (50mg),
> (1)1,000 mcg of methylcobalamin (this week he started taking 5,000 mcg and
> feels even better!) Remember, he has both C667T and A1298C. He also takes
> vitamin D 5,000, nattokinase 200, Vital nutrients ultra pure Fish Oil,
> niacinamide 500 mg, Milk thistle, and Vitamin C 2,000 mcg. After school he
> takes another (2) methyfolate, (1) P5P and (1) methylcobalamin, and his
> other (2) vitamin code FOR MEN multi- vitamins.
>
> When I first started his supplements, he only took methylfolate, P5P and
> Methylcobalamin. After that, we went to my Dr. and did blood tests and she
> put him on the rest of the supplements. His Vitamin D was low.
>
> Google autism and MTHFR...lots of articles. Also, go to www.mthfr.net and
> click on articles. He writes a lot of articles as well.
>
> Blessings, Tami
>
> Learn more:
> http://www.naturalnews.com/031029_silymarin_liver.html#ixzz1rJhlxwcb
>
> --- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'Autism-Mercury%40yahoogroups.com');>, "RON" <ron.huffman@...> wrote:
> >
> > My son and I went to Pfeiffer Treatment Center in 09. We are
> undermethylators. We are high histamine.
> > They put us on TMG and other individual supps. Also compounded supps for
> morning and afternoon.
> > My copper was severely high at the time. My son and I are both pyroluric.
> > We continued their program for a year. Never really noticed much.
> > They did not address issues like heavy metal detox or microbials.
> > My son is 18 y.o. Normal in many ways but still many issues. Poor
> reflexes, trouble with focus, very poor memory, moods problems. He is like
> me with memory and mood. He likes to laugh.
> > I've never heard of the info I've read by you in the group (about the
> mutations). Maybe we have the same problem.
> > I'm just wondering what is different about what you have done versus
> what we did. The supps are very similar. They were trying to help us with
> methylation.
> > I'm sorry I don't know really what to ask, I'm not doing well today. I
> do like your info and you are blessed to have the ability (brain function)
> to share and help your own as well as you do. You are helping others by
> sharing as well.
> > I do know when I took my son the the DAN doctor in 05 they put him on
> DMPS every other day. They did EDTA too.
> > He had a super memory til age seven. Then it started deteriorating and
> now he's like alzheimers memory.This was before the DAN doctor chelation.
> But we had done chelation with another dr. before that with I think EDTA in
> it. He gets so frustrated. He can't drive and everyone he knows is getting
> their license. He has mood problems and memory problems so he concerned
> about getting a job. He was diagnosed with CMV virus and is always tight in
> his chest (lungs).
> > We are going to a doctor who uses Zyto to test us for microbials and do
> Nutrimedix microbial defense.
> > Also doing Andys protocol DMSA and ALA.
> > I had my fillings removed 1 year before I got pregnant with Austin. Also
> I nursed him and kind of fasted one time while nursing him. He may have
> gotten a big toxic dose at that time. I also am RH Neg and got the Rhogam
> shot which contains thimerisol.
> > He was a little delayed in speech but seemed pretty normal otherwise
> until age 3 he had his first meltdown.
> > Is it genetic testing you did to find out if you have the mutations?
> > Could you give us any direction?
> > Thanks,
> > Cassandra
> >
>
>
>


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--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "JoeGrane" <joegrane610@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "RON" <ron.huffman@> wrote:
> >
> > ... He had a super memory til age seven. Then it started deteriorating and
now he's like alzheimers memory.
>
> ==  Lecithin + acetyl l carnitine have been working nicely for my previously
poor memory.  It is much improved on the combo of supplements and AC chelation. 
ADD medication was also probably helpful as well but my doctor weaned me off of
that.  I'm just using supplements--tyrosine, glutamine, etc--for the remaining
mild ADD symptoms.
>
> > ...This was before the DAN doctor chelation. But we had done chelation with
another dr. before that with I think EDTA in it. He gets so frustrated. He can't
drive and everyone he knows is getting their license. He has mood problems and
memory problems so he concerned about getting a job.
>
> == About 5 yrs ago I was on a low dose of a mood stabilizer medication.  It
seems that fish oil and 5mg lithium supplements have had a nice, easy-going
effect on my personality. Li was the lowest essential element on my
pre-chelation hair test.
>
> > ...He was diagnosed with CMV virus and is always tight in his chest (lungs).
> > We are going to a doctor who uses Zyto to test us for microbials and do
Nutrimedix microbial defense.
> > Also doing Andys protocol DMSA and ALA.
> > I had my fillings removed 1 year before I got pregnant with Austin. Also I
nursed him and kind of fasted one time while nursing him. He may have gotten a
big toxic dose at that time. I also am RH Neg and got the Rhogam shot which
contains thimerisol.
> > He was a little delayed in speech but seemed pretty normal otherwise until
age 3 he had his first meltdown.
> > Is it genetic testing you did to find out if you have the mutations?
> > Could you give us any direction?
> > Thanks,
> > Cassandra
> >
>

Thanks so much Tami,
Cassandra


--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "Tami" <hirschome@...> wrote:
>
>
> You can try the supplements first and then do the blood test.  That is what I
did with my kids.  Just ask your Dr. to test for MTHFR mutations.  If they won't
or insurance won't cover it, you can order it at www.mthfr.net for $150.00. The
child that didn't have any MTHFR, knew he didn't have it because he saw no
difference with energy or clearer thinking.  He felt the same, where my other
kids and husband, felt much different and even acted different with longer
attention spans and showed less stress and anxiety.
>
> When my son, who was 16 at the time, collapsed on the football field, at the
ER, we asked for him to be tested for MTHFR because I knew I had it.  My
reproductive endocrinologist told me in 2005.  As I have said before, it is
related to stroke, heart attack and DVT.  The ER tested him for mono and staph
infections, as well as MTHFR.  He had inactive mono, (a lot of MTHFR people as
carry mono) and no staph. We were shocked he came back with not only my MTHFR
mutation, but another one....one from my husband.
>
>   Looking back, why didn't the Dr. test my husband...crazy!  Back in 2005,
Dr.'s prescribed Folgard 2.2mg twice a day.  Most Dr.'s are still clueless and
still do it today, although it is toxic to them!
>
> When I got sick, my PPO let me go to any Dr. without a referral, so I made
appointments with Rheumatoid arthritis, Endocrinologist, neurologist, urologist,
cardiologist, and everyone said I was okay, except my ultrasound for my thyroid
came back with 5 nodules.  We have thyroid cancer in our family and regular
folic acid is toxic to MTHFR, and scientific articles have evidence of increase
in cancers with high doses of regular folic acid like I was taking for the last
6 years.
>
>  The other day on Dr. Oz, he had a Dr. on that said they are developing a
stain to be mixed in with folic acid that would show up during laser surgery of
cancer that made it easier for the Dr.'s to laser the cancer cells only.  Cancer
feeds off folic acid!  So wherever cancer is present the stain would show up and
Dr.'s can laser only the disease and not healthy tissue.  Cancer cells feed on
folic acid. I thought that was so interesting! They are trying to have the FDA
pass it.  I had been poisoning myself for 6 years!
>
> I share this because I want to point out again that Dr.'s don't always know
best and they are not up to date on current research.  Once our DNA was mapped,
researchers started to figure out that those with this mutation can't use all
that folic acid and it just sits there and causes havoc.
>
> The oncologist told me that I should not be taking Folgard and to use only
methylfolate.  I went home and found www.mthfr.net and spoke on the phone with
Dr. Ben.  I then went to my Dr. who is an MD, but has also studied homeopathy in
France, Chelation with Dr. Buttar and medical nutrition.  She put me on
methyfolate, P5P, Methycobalamin, Vitamin D (5,000), Vital nutrients Ultra pure
fish oil, nattokinase, probiotics, Milk thistle and NAC along with a
multi-vitamin.  I didn't like her multi because it was in a tablet form.  I
found Garden of Life makes Vitamin Code that is made from RAW enzymes.  I even
called their company to make sure the B vitamins were natural.
>
> I would try the supplements.  It has been a MIRACLE in my family.  Today, at
my local nutrition store, someone told me that Milk Thistle crosses the blood
brain barrier.  I went to by Jay Robb Protein that is sweetened only with
stevia. I make protein drinks for my older kids to take their supplements. 
Anyway, here is what I found on Milk Thistle: It said it did cross the blood
brain barrier!
>
> Silymarin Found to Protect Nerves, Slow Brain Aging Process
> Silymarin is one of a small number of compounds able to cross the blood-brain
barrier and affect neural function and chemical neurotransmitters. Long known
for its ability to detoxify the liver, silymarin also exerts a powerful
protective edge against nerve damage and brain preservation. Information from
the journal Neurochemistry International shows that the nutrient is able to
protect delicate glial cells in the brain against free radical damage, which
occurs as a result of low grade bacterial infection common in overweight and
obese individuals.
>
> I wonder if my recovery went so fast because of the Milk Thistle.  My Dr.
didn't have me take NAC until the next month.  Interesting to think about.
>
> Try adding Milk thistle...and then maybe NAC.  Although, I saw the biggest
miracle, (having no allergies, no pain, no clump in my throat and mold taste,
painful tingling in my fingers, bursitis, severe depression, NO ENERGY, brain
fog, etc...) my husband experienced clearer thinking, positive thoughts, more
energy, ADD went away and he could handle stress.  He is a CEO and is stressed
all the time.  He just kept saying, "Why did I have to live 43 years without the
whole use of my brain and neurotransmitters?" If he forgets a day, his brain is
foggy, no energy, anxiety and ADD return.  We both HAVE to take our supplements
to survive.  We feel we have more oxygen in our bodies!
>
> I wish you the best!  My son turns 17 next week.  He has a pill box. I give
him Vitamin Code for Men (2 morning, 2 after school) He drinks protein drink in
the morning.  We has spinach, kale or chard, banana, frozen berries, yogurt,
primal defense probiotics (garden of life), Jay Robb protein powder and whole
milk.  (whole milk has all the enzymes to digest the milk and he has no
allergies to milk products).
>
> He takes (2) 1,000 mcg of methyfolate (metafolin), (1) P5P (50mg), (1)1,000
mcg of methylcobalamin (this week he started taking 5,000 mcg and feels even
better!) Remember, he has both C667T and A1298C.  He also takes vitamin D 5,000,
nattokinase 200, Vital nutrients ultra pure Fish Oil, niacinamide 500 mg, Milk
thistle, and Vitamin C 2,000 mcg. After school he takes another (2) methyfolate,
(1) P5P and (1) methylcobalamin, and his other (2) vitamin code FOR MEN multi-
vitamins.
>
> When I first started his supplements, he only took methylfolate, P5P and
Methylcobalamin.  After that, we went to my Dr. and did blood tests and she put
him on the rest of the supplements.  His Vitamin D was low.
>
> Google autism and MTHFR...lots of articles.  Also, go to www.mthfr.net and
click on articles.  He writes a lot of articles as well.
>
> Blessings, Tami
>
> Learn more:
http://www.naturalnews.com/031029_silymarin_liver.html#ixzz1rJhlxwcb
>
> --- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "RON" <ron.huffman@> wrote:
> >
> > My son and I went to Pfeiffer Treatment Center in 09. We are
undermethylators. We are high histamine.
> > They put us on TMG and other individual supps. Also compounded supps for
morning and afternoon.
> > My copper was severely high at the time. My son and I are both pyroluric.
> > We continued their program for a year. Never really noticed much.
> > They did not address issues like heavy metal detox or microbials.
> > My son is 18 y.o. Normal in many ways but still many issues. Poor reflexes,
trouble with focus, very poor memory, moods problems. He is like me with memory
and mood. He likes to laugh.
> > I've never heard of the info I've read by you in the group (about the
mutations). Maybe we have the same problem.
> > I'm just wondering what is different about what you have done versus what we
did. The supps are very similar. They were trying to help us with methylation.
> > I'm sorry I don't know really what to ask, I'm not doing well today. I do
like your info and you are blessed to have the ability (brain function) to share
and help your own as well as you do. You are helping others by sharing as well.
> > I do know when I took my son the the DAN doctor in 05 they put him on  DMPS
every other day. They did EDTA too.
> > He had a super memory til age seven. Then it started deteriorating and now
he's like alzheimers memory.This was before the DAN doctor chelation. But we had
done chelation with another dr. before that with I think EDTA in it. He gets so
frustrated. He can't drive and everyone he knows is getting their license. He
has mood problems and memory problems so he concerned about getting a job. He
was diagnosed with CMV virus and is always tight in his chest (lungs).
> > We are going to a doctor who uses Zyto to test us for microbials and do
Nutrimedix microbial defense.
> > Also doing Andys protocol DMSA and ALA.
> > I had my fillings removed 1 year before I got pregnant with Austin. Also I
nursed him and kind of fasted one time while nursing him. He may have gotten a
big toxic dose at that time. I also am RH Neg and got the Rhogam shot which
contains thimerisol.
> > He was a little delayed in speech but seemed pretty normal otherwise until
age 3 he had his first meltdown.
> > Is it genetic testing you did to find out if you have the mutations?
> > Could you give us any direction?
> > Thanks,
> > Cassandra
> >
>

Tami -
What is a good brand milk thistle?

Also,should we start milk thistle before the b12 methylfolate and p5p?

I wanted to tell you about a vit c experience I had in 92. I don't know what it
means if it means anything at all.
I was having severe allergies and had bought a book by dr. Phillpot called brain
allergies. He suggested taking vit c powder every hour or 1/2 hour. Of course by
evening I developed diahrea. I was new into health and didn't know why I
developed diahrea. I went to bed and the next morning when I awoke I sat up on
my bed. When I breathed in I could feel oxygen come up through my abdomen and
arms up through my head. It was incredible. For 4 days I had the best
memory/recall, mood, etc. I was looking for a job at the time and so I was
looking through the classifieds. There wasn't anything in the classifieds I
didn't think I could learn. Now that is not me. I know I'm limited on what I can
learn, esp. anything with numbers. But I had such good brain function that I
knew I could learn. In 03 or somewhere in there I also had a brain function
experience with Armour Thyroid.
Both Vit. c and Armour experience came to an end. Of course I've tried doing
them again and again but not the same experience.

Also, my older son who is 37 also has learning/mood problems. Severe moods are
in my family on my dad's side along with addictions. My mom's side has asperger
types symptoms.

My older son suffered with mono when he was in high school. Struggled with
fatigue also (like me and his other siblings), allergies/asthma. Immune
dysfunction.

How long before we'd notice a difference on the p5p, meth b12, and meth. folate?
I started us on those several days ago. I don't do well on b12 but my son does.
He was on that with Pfeiffer treatment.

If I don't do well on b12 is that an indication that I don't have the mutation?

Should I get milk thistle (any certain kind or brand?)before we try NAC?

Our doctor has my son on Phos Serine but we've not noticed a difference.

Also, my allergies have been so bad. My eyes, face, ears throat are swollen.
Inflammation is such an issue with me.

I know I'm rambling, thank you for your replies. I'm doing chelation, parasite
herbs and microbial herbs. Around full moon I can get so bad, the parasite herbs
help.

Please feel free to share anything that might help us or comes to your mind from
the info I write.
Thanks so much,
Cassandra




--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "Tami" <hirschome@...> wrote:
>
>
> You can try the supplements first and then do the blood test.  That is what I
did with my kids.  Just ask your Dr. to test for MTHFR mutations.  If they won't
or insurance won't cover it, you can order it at www.mthfr.net for $150.00. The
child that didn't have any MTHFR, knew he didn't have it because he saw no
difference with energy or clearer thinking.  He felt the same, where my other
kids and husband, felt much different and even acted different with longer
attention spans and showed less stress and anxiety.
>
> When my son, who was 16 at the time, collapsed on the football field, at the
ER, we asked for him to be tested for MTHFR because I knew I had it.  My
reproductive endocrinologist told me in 2005.  As I have said before, it is
related to stroke, heart attack and DVT.  The ER tested him for mono and staph
infections, as well as MTHFR.  He had inactive mono, (a lot of MTHFR people as
carry mono) and no staph. We were shocked he came back with not only my MTHFR
mutation, but another one....one from my husband.
>
>   Looking back, why didn't the Dr. test my husband...crazy!  Back in 2005,
Dr.'s prescribed Folgard 2.2mg twice a day.  Most Dr.'s are still clueless and
still do it today, although it is toxic to them!
>
> When I got sick, my PPO let me go to any Dr. without a referral, so I made
appointments with Rheumatoid arthritis, Endocrinologist, neurologist, urologist,
cardiologist, and everyone said I was okay, except my ultrasound for my thyroid
came back with 5 nodules.  We have thyroid cancer in our family and regular
folic acid is toxic to MTHFR, and scientific articles have evidence of increase
in cancers with high doses of regular folic acid like I was taking for the last
6 years.
>
>  The other day on Dr. Oz, he had a Dr. on that said they are developing a
stain to be mixed in with folic acid that would show up during laser surgery of
cancer that made it easier for the Dr.'s to laser the cancer cells only.  Cancer
feeds off folic acid!  So wherever cancer is present the stain would show up and
Dr.'s can laser only the disease and not healthy tissue.  Cancer cells feed on
folic acid. I thought that was so interesting! They are trying to have the FDA
pass it.  I had been poisoning myself for 6 years!
>
> I share this because I want to point out again that Dr.'s don't always know
best and they are not up to date on current research.  Once our DNA was mapped,
researchers started to figure out that those with this mutation can't use all
that folic acid and it just sits there and causes havoc.
>
> The oncologist told me that I should not be taking Folgard and to use only
methylfolate.  I went home and found www.mthfr.net and spoke on the phone with
Dr. Ben.  I then went to my Dr. who is an MD, but has also studied homeopathy in
France, Chelation with Dr. Buttar and medical nutrition.  She put me on
methyfolate, P5P, Methycobalamin, Vitamin D (5,000), Vital nutrients Ultra pure
fish oil, nattokinase, probiotics, Milk thistle and NAC along with a
multi-vitamin.  I didn't like her multi because it was in a tablet form.  I
found Garden of Life makes Vitamin Code that is made from RAW enzymes.  I even
called their company to make sure the B vitamins were natural.
>
> I would try the supplements.  It has been a MIRACLE in my family.  Today, at
my local nutrition store, someone told me that Milk Thistle crosses the blood
brain barrier.  I went to by Jay Robb Protein that is sweetened only with
stevia. I make protein drinks for my older kids to take their supplements. 
Anyway, here is what I found on Milk Thistle: It said it did cross the blood
brain barrier!
>
> Silymarin Found to Protect Nerves, Slow Brain Aging Process
> Silymarin is one of a small number of compounds able to cross the blood-brain
barrier and affect neural function and chemical neurotransmitters. Long known
for its ability to detoxify the liver, silymarin also exerts a powerful
protective edge against nerve damage and brain preservation. Information from
the journal Neurochemistry International shows that the nutrient is able to
protect delicate glial cells in the brain against free radical damage, which
occurs as a result of low grade bacterial infection common in overweight and
obese individuals.
>
> I wonder if my recovery went so fast because of the Milk Thistle.  My Dr.
didn't have me take NAC until the next month.  Interesting to think about.
>
> Try adding Milk thistle...and then maybe NAC.  Although, I saw the biggest
miracle, (having no allergies, no pain, no clump in my throat and mold taste,
painful tingling in my fingers, bursitis, severe depression, NO ENERGY, brain
fog, etc...) my husband experienced clearer thinking, positive thoughts, more
energy, ADD went away and he could handle stress.  He is a CEO and is stressed
all the time.  He just kept saying, "Why did I have to live 43 years without the
whole use of my brain and neurotransmitters?" If he forgets a day, his brain is
foggy, no energy, anxiety and ADD return.  We both HAVE to take our supplements
to survive.  We feel we have more oxygen in our bodies!
>
> I wish you the best!  My son turns 17 next week.  He has a pill box. I give
him Vitamin Code for Men (2 morning, 2 after school) He drinks protein drink in
the morning.  We has spinach, kale or chard, banana, frozen berries, yogurt,
primal defense probiotics (garden of life), Jay Robb protein powder and whole
milk.  (whole milk has all the enzymes to digest the milk and he has no
allergies to milk products).
>
> He takes (2) 1,000 mcg of methyfolate (metafolin), (1) P5P (50mg), (1)1,000
mcg of methylcobalamin (this week he started taking 5,000 mcg and feels even
better!) Remember, he has both C667T and A1298C.  He also takes vitamin D 5,000,
nattokinase 200, Vital nutrients ultra pure Fish Oil, niacinamide 500 mg, Milk
thistle, and Vitamin C 2,000 mcg. After school he takes another (2) methyfolate,
(1) P5P and (1) methylcobalamin, and his other (2) vitamin code FOR MEN multi-
vitamins.
>
> When I first started his supplements, he only took methylfolate, P5P and
Methylcobalamin.  After that, we went to my Dr. and did blood tests and she put
him on the rest of the supplements.  His Vitamin D was low.
>
> Google autism and MTHFR...lots of articles.  Also, go to www.mthfr.net and
click on articles.  He writes a lot of articles as well.
>
> Blessings, Tami
>
> Learn more:
http://www.naturalnews.com/031029_silymarin_liver.html#ixzz1rJhlxwcb
>
> --- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "RON" <ron.huffman@> wrote:
> >
> > My son and I went to Pfeiffer Treatment Center in 09. We are
undermethylators. We are high histamine.
> > They put us on TMG and other individual supps. Also compounded supps for
morning and afternoon.
> > My copper was severely high at the time. My son and I are both pyroluric.
> > We continued their program for a year. Never really noticed much.
> > They did not address issues like heavy metal detox or microbials.
> > My son is 18 y.o. Normal in many ways but still many issues. Poor reflexes,
trouble with focus, very poor memory, moods problems. He is like me with memory
and mood. He likes to laugh.
> > I've never heard of the info I've read by you in the group (about the
mutations). Maybe we have the same problem.
> > I'm just wondering what is different about what you have done versus what we
did. The supps are very similar. They were trying to help us with methylation.
> > I'm sorry I don't know really what to ask, I'm not doing well today. I do
like your info and you are blessed to have the ability (brain function) to share
and help your own as well as you do. You are helping others by sharing as well.
> > I do know when I took my son the the DAN doctor in 05 they put him on  DMPS
every other day. They did EDTA too.
> > He had a super memory til age seven. Then it started deteriorating and now
he's like alzheimers memory.This was before the DAN doctor chelation. But we had
done chelation with another dr. before that with I think EDTA in it. He gets so
frustrated. He can't drive and everyone he knows is getting their license. He
has mood problems and memory problems so he concerned about getting a job. He
was diagnosed with CMV virus and is always tight in his chest (lungs).
> > We are going to a doctor who uses Zyto to test us for microbials and do
Nutrimedix microbial defense.
> > Also doing Andys protocol DMSA and ALA.
> > I had my fillings removed 1 year before I got pregnant with Austin. Also I
nursed him and kind of fasted one time while nursing him. He may have gotten a
big toxic dose at that time. I also am RH Neg and got the Rhogam shot which
contains thimerisol.
> > He was a little delayed in speech but seemed pretty normal otherwise until
age 3 he had his first meltdown.
> > Is it genetic testing you did to find out if you have the mutations?
> > Could you give us any direction?
> > Thanks,
> > Cassandra
> >
>

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, Annietsui <annietsui22@...> wrote:
> For the past week (6 days in a row) his stool was in golden color.  His stool
color used to be brown.  My DAN told me was because he could not break down the
fat in the meat. I searched on internet and saw it might be related to bile
function.   Anyone has any idea?


My son couldn't absorb fat until I corrected his mitochondrial dysfunction.  I
wrote what he needed here

http://www.danasview.net/mar05.htm

Dana

We used Taurine for that here.

Lisa

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, Annietsui <annietsui22@...> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> My son is 3.5 yr old and has started boomed intervention for 6 months.  He is
now taking calcium, zinc, magnesium , nu Thera without Vit A & D, glycerin, B6
complex, CO Q10, Vit C, Vit D,  DMG with folic acid, no phenol, TriEnza.  And he
was on OXY powder for 1 month to help to pass motion.
>
> For the past week (6 days in a row) his stool was in golden color.  His stool
color used to be brown.  My DAN told me was because he could not break down the
fat in the meat. I searched on internet and saw it might be related to bile
function.   Anyone has any idea?
>
> Thanks.  Annie
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>

My son all of a sudden is stimming  like crazy and it is getting worse by the
second. Seems it exploded after the last round. Any ideas of what causes it,
what might help and how to handle it?
Thanks in advance
Blessings
Aly

Hi Lisa,
 
My son is now taking Nystatin to treat the candida.  Do you think this is the
reason why his bile is not functioning properly?  And what is the dosage  of
Taurine I should give to him (he is about 3.5 years old 15 kg)?  And how long
does it take to improve the bile function?   And any brand do you recommend?

Thanks for your advise.
Annie
 


________________________________
From: mosaictm <lisa369@...>
To: Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 7, 2012 10:29 PM
Subject: [Autism-Mercury] Re: Light golden color stool


 
We used Taurine for that here.

Lisa

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, Annietsui <annietsui22@...> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> My son is 3.5 yr old and has started boomed intervention for 6 months. He is
now taking calcium, zinc, magnesium , nu Thera without Vit A & D, glycerin, B6
complex, CO Q10, Vit C, Vit D, DMG with folic acid, no phenol, TriEnza. And he
was on OXY powder for 1 month to help to pass motion.
>
> For the past week (6 days in a row) his stool was in golden color. His stool
color used to be brown. My DAN told me was because he could not break down the
fat in the meat. I searched on internet and saw it might be related to bile
function. Anyone has any idea?
>
> Thanks. Annie
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>




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Hi Dana, I have read your update.  And my son has been taking Co Q10 to correct
his mitochondrial dysfunction.  And his stool changed color from brown to
golden color since I realized he had yeast flare up about 2 weeks ago.

 And I started to give him Fluconazole and then Nystatin last week.  Do you
think this might be the reason for color changing in stool? 
 
Thanks. Annie

 
--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, Annietsui <annietsui22@...> wrote:
> For the past week (6 days in a row) his stool was in golden color. His stool
color used to be brown. My DAN told me was because he could not break down the
fat in the meat. I searched on internet and saw it might be related to bile
function. Anyone has any idea?

My son couldn't absorb fat until I corrected his mitochondrial dysfunction. I
wrote what he needed here

http://www.danasview.net/mar05.htm

Dana






________________________________

From: danasview <danasview@...>
To: Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 7, 2012 10:28 PM
Subject: [Autism-Mercury] Re: Light golden color stool


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It may help members to know what you are giving him--chelators, doses,
frequency/protocol, rounds completed, age/weight, supporting supplements--Mg, C,
etc.  If you have a hair test posted online it might help members to have the
link, for example,
http://livingnetwork.co.za/chelationnetwork/hairtest/hairtest3/

You are not the first to report this.
http://onibasu.com/archives/am/6247.html

Joe

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "alychike1986" <alychike1986@...> wrote:
>
> My son all of a sudden is stimming  like crazy and it is getting worse by the
second. Seems it exploded after the last round. Any ideas of what causes it,
what might help and how to handle it?
> Thanks in advance
> Blessings
> Aly
>

Thanks Joe,
I'm chelating with 6 mg of ALA every 3 hours on weekends. We have done over 40
rounds. We did take a break for 4 weeks for various reasons but resumed again
last week. We also use the essential 4 from everything spectrum, culturelle 3 
caps daily, I upped this to 6 but didn't see much change. We also just started
the chewable digestive enzymes from houston's which he is taking without any
issues ( thanks guys). I did post my hair test on recovery from autism and was
told it met counting rules.
I was unable to open the link for some reason


Blessings
Aly
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 7, 2012, at 10:32 AM, "JoeGrane" <joegrane610@...> wrote:

> It may help members to know what you are giving him--chelators, doses,
frequency/protocol, rounds completed, age/weight, supporting supplements--Mg, C,
etc. If you have a hair test posted online it might help members to have the
link, for example,
http://livingnetwork.co.za/chelationnetwork/hairtest/hairtest3/
>
> You are not the first to report this.
> http://onibasu.com/archives/am/6247.html
>
> Joe
>
> --- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "alychike1986" <alychike1986@...>
wrote:
> >
> > My son all of a sudden is stimming like crazy and it is getting worse by the
second. Seems it exploded after the last round. Any ideas of what causes it,
what might help and how to handle it?
> > Thanks in advance
> > Blessings
> > Aly
> >
>
>
>
>
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To deal with a possible yeast issue (or gastrointestinal issue of what ever
order?) and to do a good thing either way, (for your gut?) supplement with a
probiotic, daily, or for what works out by trialing from minimal to what works
if not back to what works better, I would recommend.

I found 5-HTP worked towards our son's verbal stimming irrespective of yeast, to
deal with his nerves or anxiety, how much to give based pretty much on the same
principle (as above) it being relative to body weight and such. Start with 50mg
in the morning and evening where you'd want to try that, I would advise.

Michael Glavic

I still feel it's all about justice and being so just (of, trying to be as
reasonable as we can be by as much? that there should be a social otherwise?)
that we should have a hope otherwise. That we would deserve better.. . I figure
that starts with being fair if not so fair and considerate as we can be, for as
much for ourselves, no less

I figure that fits squarely in the bio-medical, for the bio-medical/biological
where the bio-medical/biological (or whatever?) works for as much.. . Where we
need help I figure it should come to us in such respect, where asking for help
goes a long way in such respect, I figure.. . Don't ignore further communicating
of as much as there is in such respect.. .

Happy Easter, and even greater communicating, that Easter should be about
anything less, but I figure nothing should be otherwise, or about anything less.





--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "alychike1986" <alychike1986@...> wrote:
>
> My son all of a sudden is stimming  like crazy and it is getting worse by the
second. Seems it exploded after the last round. Any ideas of what causes it,
what might help and how to handle it?
> Thanks in advance
> Blessings
> Aly
>

The Autism Wars

By AMY HARMON
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/08/sunday-review/the-autism-wars.html

THE report by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention that one in
88 American children have an autism spectrum disorder has stoked a
debate about why the condition's prevalence continues to rise. The
C.D.C. said it was possible that the increase could be entirely
attributed to better detection by teachers and doctors, while holding
out the possibility of unknown environmental factors.

But the report, released last month, also appears to be serving as a
lightning rod for those who question the legitimacy of a diagnosis whose
estimated prevalence has nearly doubled since 2007.

As one person commenting on The New York Times's online article about it
put it, parents "want an 'out' for why little Johnny is a little hard to
control." Or, as another skeptic posted on a different Web site, "Just
like how all of a sudden everyone had A.D.H.D. in the '90s, now everyone
has autism."

The diagnosis criteria for autism spectrum disorders were broadened in
the 1990s to encompass not just the most severely affected children, who
might be intellectually disabled, nonverbal or prone to self-injury, but
those with widely varying symptoms and intellectual abilities who shared
a fundamental difficulty with social interaction. As a result, the
makeup of the autism population has shifted: only about a third of those
identified by the C.D.C. as autistic last month had an intellectual
disability, compared with about half a decade ago....

- - - -

but see also:

A Positive Association found between Autism Prevalence and Childhood
Vaccination uptake across the U.S. Population.
Delong G.
J Toxicol Environ Health A. 2011 Jan;74(14):903-16.
pdf here: http://tinyurl.com/3p2cd5z

Do aluminum vaccine adjuvants contribute to the rising prevalence of autism?
Tomljenovic L, Shaw CA.
J Inorg Biochem. 2011 Nov;105(11):1489-99.
pdf here: http://omsj.org/reports/tomljenovic%202011.pdf

Infant mortality rates regressed against number of vaccine doses
routinely given: is there a biochemical or synergistic toxicity?
Miller NZ, Goldman GS.
Hum Exp Toxicol. 2011 Sep;30(9):1420-8.
pdf here: http://het.sagepub.com/content/30/9/1420.long







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Could it be that he would benefit from more antioxidants at the end of the round
for mop up--Vit C, selenium, Vit E, maybe more Mg?

If it is an end of round sfx there is the somewhat controversial use of DMSA or
DMPS at the end of the round for mop up in adults.  I don't know to what extent
this has been tried in kids.

I've found that I have fewer ALA sfx when I also use DMSA.  I then take a couple
of doses of only DMSA at the end of the round for mop up along with the
additional antioxidants.

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, Aleruchi Oleru <alychike1986@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks Joe,
> I'm chelating with 6 mg of ALA every 3 hours on weekends. We have done over 40
rounds. We did take a break for 4 weeks for various reasons but resumed again
last week. We also use the essential 4 from everything spectrum, culturelle 3 
caps daily, I upped this to 6 but didn't see much change. We also just started
the chewable digestive enzymes from houston's which he is taking without any
issues ( thanks guys). I did post my hair test on recovery from autism and was
told it met counting rules.
> I was unable to open the link for some reason
>
>
> Blessings
> Aly
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 7, 2012, at 10:32 AM, "JoeGrane" <joegrane610@...> wrote:
>
> > It may help members to know what you are giving him--chelators, doses,
frequency/protocol, rounds completed, age/weight, supporting supplements--Mg, C,
etc. If you have a hair test posted online it might help members to have the
link, for example,
http://livingnetwork.co.za/chelationnetwork/hairtest/hairtest3/
> >
> > You are not the first to report this.
> > http://onibasu.com/archives/am/6247.html
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > --- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "alychike1986" <alychike1986@> wrote:
> > >
> > > My son all of a sudden is stimming like crazy and it is getting worse by
the second. Seems it exploded after the last round. Any ideas of what causes it,
what might help and how to handle it?
> > > Thanks in advance
> > > Blessings
> > > Aly
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>

A genetic epidemic is impossible.  And saying some people are born more
genetically susceptible to autism is like saying that some people are
genetically born to breath air better.  What someone is born with genetics wise
in this case is not and can never be the actual cause of their descent into
autism.

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "asddx2004" <olny2011@...> wrote:
>
> Are there any differences between Genetic and Vaccine-Induced Autism? Lydia
>

For my son verbal Stimson were almost always yeast. What are you using for
anti-fungal & probiotics? Sometimes we would have to change up the anti-fungal
to kill it all off.

Lisa


--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "alychike1986" <alychike1986@...> wrote:
>
> My son all of a sudden is stimming  like crazy and it is getting worse by the
second. Seems it exploded after the last round. Any ideas of what causes it,
what might help and how to handle it?
> Thanks in advance
> Blessings
> Aly
>

If a child with autism has high ketones but normal blood sugar and urine sugar,
can this be just down to a a HIGH protein diet?

Has anyone else seen this

High Beta-ammino-N-butyric acid is a marker also

Thanks

Peter

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, annie tsui <annietsui22@...> wrote:
> Hi Dana, I have read your update.  And my son has been taking Co Q10 to
correct his mitochondrial dysfunction.


The main supps my son needed to correct mito dysfunction were CoQ10, carnitine,
and taurine.  You might need to add more.


>>And his stool changed color from brown to golden color since I realized he had
yeast flare up about 2 weeks ago.


Try increasing the yeast protocol.


>  And I started to give him Fluconazole and then Nystatin last week.  Do you
think this might be the reason for color changing in stool? 


It is possible.  It sounds like it could be either or both of these issues.

Dana

Once metabolism is corrected and metals are removed, plus bacteria and viruses
are under control, what would people use to re-myelinate the nerves:

I've heard DMAE might be used, are there other things people would recommend ?

Thank you

Peter

I'm not certain but I think lecithin (phospholipids), omega 3s are on the list
along with DMAE and others.

Cutler likes us to use them while chelating not just after years of chelation. 
He has more on it in his Amalgam Illness book.

For those who are not familiar with the issue, check out this clip fron the U of
Calgary of Hg's effects on snail brain tissue.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDnfeIwd0wI

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "peter" <peter_2_@...> wrote:
>
> Once metabolism is corrected and metals are removed, plus bacteria and viruses
are under control, what would people use to re-myelinate the nerves:
>
> I've heard DMAE might be used, are there other things people would recommend ?
>
> Thank you
>
> Peter
>

My son 1st round of oral chelation. he did a iv CA-edta once in January. big
mistake. anyway he is 51lbs so i have given him the 25mg capsule split into
about 4 doses .
are going through abouy a pill and a half per day. Does that sound right. My
question is what round do i add ala. Also should he be on gse for yeast also? He
seems okay so far. It has been tough waking up at night, but we are hopeful.

Thanks for advice,

Jilea
4yr old NOS-PDD 1st round in progress DMSA 6.13 per dose

Others will respond more directly.

You might check out the doc in our Files on Neutrophils.  It has many tips about
candida, especially when using DMSA.
DMSA tends to have a negative impact on neutrophils and candida so we are wise
to stay on top of the situation.   My impression is that we should not expect to
fully resolve the problem without chelation.    At the bottom of this page is a
video clip of a neutrophil having some candida for lunch :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutrophil_granulocyte

Re ALA.  I don't know but Cutler doesn't think we should wait long before
starting on ALA in kids who have not had any recent exposure to Hg.  This doctor
used a variation of the Cutler protocol and did not seem to wait long before
adding ALA.
http://www.healing-arts.org/children/holmes.htm#results

The adults who recently had amalgam removed wait a couple of months.
More on that if requested.

This is from the site of a long time group moderator.
http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/Andy_dose_sched.html

Avoid the temptation to skip night doses.
Young guy reports bipolar symptoms after skipping night doses
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1007420#i

Chelators are wonderfully powerful when used *correctly*!

Joe


--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "JileaH" <greenietots@...> wrote:
>
> My son 1st round of oral chelation. he did a iv CA-edta once in January. big
mistake. anyway he is 51lbs so i have given him the 25mg capsule split into
about 4 doses .
> are going through abouy a pill and a half per day. Does that sound right. My
question is what round do i add ala. Also should he be on gse for yeast also? He
seems okay so far. It has been tough waking up at night, but we are hopeful.
>
> Thanks for advice,
>
> Jilea
> 4yr old NOS-PDD 1st round in progress DMSA 6.13 per dose
>

I just took a tick off my son.  He's in the bath.  Did not see more.  Think I
got it all.  What should I give him to ward off Lyme?  OLE, OOO?

Thank you,

Amie

I don't know too much about this unfortunately.  There are places online where
you can buy the doxycycline antibiotic.

This is one source..

http://canadian-pharmacy-24h.com/catalog/Bestsellers/Doxycycline.htm

There are others. I don't know of side effects and such. But there are options
to get it. I hope this helps.
David

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "AmieR" <am_rooks@...> wrote:
>
> I just took a tick off my son.  He's in the bath.  Did not see more.  Think I
got it all.  What should I give him to ward off Lyme?  OLE, OOO?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Amie
>

Did u place tick in some bottle? There are different types of ticks, some of
them carry lyme, while others are not dangerous. You can show the tick to the
doctor and find out if your son will need antibiotics.


Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 8, 2012, at 4:07 PM, "sambak_22" <sambak_22@...> wrote:

> I don't know too much about this unfortunately. There are places online where
you can buy the doxycycline antibiotic.
>
> This is one source..
>
> http://canadian-pharmacy-24h.com/catalog/Bestsellers/Doxycycline.htm
>
> There are others. I don't know of side effects and such. But there are options
to get it. I hope this helps.
> David
>
> --- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "AmieR" <am_rooks@...> wrote:
> >
> > I just took a tick off my son. He's in the bath. Did not see more. Think I
got it all. What should I give him to ward off Lyme? OLE, OOO?
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Amie
> >
>
>
>
>
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Yes, in addition you can have the tick sent out for testing.

I went through this last Fall.  I was in the mountains camping for the weekend. 
When I returned there were two well embedded deer ticks--one well engorged.  The
area is known for Lyme.

I looked for the typical Lyme rings which did not appear, unlike 20 yrs ago when
I did have the typical Lyme ring on my chest.  I also did not really have any
symptoms.  The US CDC instructs to get medical treatment when there are
symptoms.

I sent the ticks away for evaluation.  They came back positive for the Lyme
bacteria, but I did not have symptoms.  Also my immune system is not in bad
shape.  I don't really advise my cavalier approach, but I never got treatment. 
I still feel fine 6 months later.  I would not have been so cavalier with an
autistic child!

The following provides information on identifying ticks that are at risk.

CDC On Ticks & Lyme
http://www.cdc.gov/ticks/geographic_distribution.html
http://www.cdc.gov/ticks/life_cycle_and_hosts.html

Since I'm in PA I found this from PennState U. to be extremely helpful.
http://www.hgic.umd.edu/content/documents/ticks.pdf

Lab Testing Ticks
http://www.cdc.gov/lyme/diagnosistreatment/LabTest/Testing/
Labs for testing Ticks
http://www.dig-itmag.com/departments/friendsfoes_story/139_0_11_0_M

I found this site to be helpful.
http://www.canlyme.com/prevention.html

My tick looked like this but that was in the Fall when they are mature.
http://www.cirrusimage.com/Arachnid_deer_tick.htm

Regards,

Joe

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> Did u place tick in some bottle? There are different types of ticks, some of
them carry lyme, while others are not dangerous. You can show the tick to the
doctor and find out if your son will need antibiotics.
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where you can buy the doxycycline antibiotic.
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> > There are others. I don't know of side effects and such. But there are
options to get it. I hope this helps.
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> > > I just took a tick off my son. He's in the bath. Did not see more. Think I
got it all. What should I give him to ward off Lyme? OLE, OOO?
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He seems fine now.  I put the tick in a baggie, took a pic of the spot where I
removed it.  Gave OLE, OOO, Vitamin C, neosporin for now.  Will probably call
doc in the morning.  The tic does not look engorged, so I don't think it was on
for too long.  Good thing I decided he needed a haircut or I wouldn't have
noticed!  Thank you!


--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "AmieR" <am_rooks@...> wrote:
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> I just took a tick off my son.  He's in the bath.  Did not see more.  Think I
got it all.  What should I give him to ward off Lyme?  OLE, OOO?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Amie
>

Hi, Can anyone please tell me what is a good (safe) dose for a 2.5 y/o? My
bottle says 1 tsp (1-2x a day) but this is for adults. I don't want to overdose
the vitamin A & D.
*Brand is Twinlab.

Thanks!

http://www.naturalnews.com/035511_insecticide_bees_collapse.html

Rather than calling what is going on with autism as an epidemic, that it's
contagious, or spiralling out of control, of environmental factors? How about
considering it as, or calling it a slaughter instead (Like with the bees?) or a
genocide, but without the intent to do such harm or destruction? A genocide of
the confused, trusting and weak, (In a way?) perhaps?

Would it really matter if we were killed off intentionally (immorally) or by
incompetence (of stupidity, or ignorance?), and, wouldn't it really be immoral
to be so incompetent in such position of authority (Given the risks? of
science?) if it were considered primarily incompetence (Intellectual deficit)?

Either way, do we want such immoral or incompetent powers or authorities to be
what we answer obediently to, as with our representative leadership, let's say?
Just a thought?

I figure once culpability is established justice must be done, if not still
done. It especially should be done where it isn't established I also figure (Of
as much as I do if not more of us?) Guess that means we should be primarily
about justice or we know not what we're doing, according to me. (My sense of
things, if not of justice? if not of Understanding, if not of life? if not of
God?) I figure I do, understand, at least as much. Some people could/should
consider surrendering now? .. .

More of us of such conviction would surely get the job done

I'd say that's more of an understanding.

Save the bees  if not a whole heck of a lot more. I figure *justice* is so
connected  and connecting.. .

Best wishes ~

Michael Glavic