Personally, I have been very reluctant to do any medication whatsoever and only
do supplements. (natural stuff)

***Same here.  If the natural antifungals aren't working it's something he is
not tolerating in my opinion.  A diet low in sweets is often a necessity this
early into starting chelation.  If he wants sweets, take a couple 2-3 weeks off
seriously.  I would ditch the DMSA too at this point and take three weeks off
chelation to find tolerable food and chelation accompanying supplements.  I
think that for children who are quite toxic, like yours sounds to be (possibly
lead poisoning evident from that reaction), going with ALA 5mg alone is the best
plan.
-------------------------------------------------------------
Possible intolerances:

Sulfur foods - see Andy's sulfur exclusion trial diet

B Vitamin complex - Many of ours are intolerant to the orange Vit B complex and
had to take the B vitamins separately without niacin.

GSE - mine was like yours (screaming and aggressive) and couldn't tolerate this
until I was much further along in chelation.

Phenols/Salicylates - try Feingold diet and/or adding more epsom salt baths to
his current regimen.
-----------------------------------------------------------

If you haven't already, add some big doses of EPA fish oil, Omega 3 EFAs, and
cod liver oil to his supplements - this helps SO much with inflammation.  If
there were two things I wish I'd done, they would be more sulfates (epsom salts,
MSM) and more Omega 3 EFAs/cod liver oil. (I would be way less concerned of soy
in those things.)


I don't know how we got through the first couple years of chelation honestly, it
sucked so bad for us.  My friend is having the same experience and nobody has
all the answers to make it absolutely comfortable and symptomless.  I can tell
you for sure though that my son has made tremendous progress over the past three
years we have been chelating.  He was nonverbal just a few years ago and he's
talking to us now, I still can't believe it.  AFTER THREE YEARS WE ARE STILL
ONLY ON 5MG OF ALA AND ONLY ON ROUND 60-SOMETHING....TO US THIS IS NOT A RACE,
IT'S NOT A BANDAID EITHER, IT'S A SLOW HEALING SOLUTION!!


--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, morgan0123@... wrote:
>
> Personally, I have been very reluctant to do any medication whatsoever and
only do supplements.  (natural stuff). I will only use Now Foods brand ALA, as
they are very cognisant of additives and allergens and they will declare
anything that is contains on the label.
> Me, personally, I would start fresh and Only give him one supp. or food at a
time for at least 3 days.  That way you know how each thing affects him.  This
is what we did with our son -one of the best things we ever did.    I am a very
firm believer that if the supp. or med. is causing severe reactions, it is
likely because they are having either an allergic or autoimmune reaction to it.
> The symptoms you describe sound very much like glutening (autoimmune reaction)
very similar to my son's when he's had dairy or gluten.  I am no doctor but I
would most definitely stop all meds and supps.  Possibly get him tested for
allergies if he hasn't been, and just start him on one food or supp. at a time.
> I like the idea of ALA but I don't like any meds.  I'm going to try culturelle
starting tomorrow.  We just started Cytoflora and so far we really like it. 
We've heard raves about it.
> Concerning behavior and progress, GFCFSF diet, plus good gf supps and
probiotics has worked wonders for us.  Going to start culturelle and soon to
start rounds of ALA.  Their systems are already on the ground, immunity-wise. 
We want to not put anything in their systems that the body has to work even more
to detox.  The immune system is already levelled.  If we level it even more, the
immune system simply doesn't have any more steam in it (energy).or ability to
detox what it really needs to. -(the heavy metals).  And that's a heavy lift, to
begin with.  Also, we do fresh fruit and veggie juicing for my son.  Also has
worked wonders...  Best of luck to you..  God bless..
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "krottenbach22" <krottenbach22@...>
> Sender: Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 16:29:31
> To: <Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com>
> Reply-To: Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Autism-Mercury] candida horror
>
> Hello group.
> We've done 20 rounds of chelation with low dose 5mg DMSA and 5 mg ALA. It took
me a year to start it because introducing supps was so hard. Son developed
screaming and aggression that never happened before, and no high dose of
antifungals worked against it. I stopped all supps several times and tryied to
restart them again some time later, but it only got worse. We now live in fear
of everyday terrible tantrums with selfaggression and screaming. I give medical
antifungals too often because GSE, OoO, Biotin, Biocidin, Candidase and Candex
don't work.
> Who had the same problem, and what did you do?
>
> I am very close to leave it all, to do IV, or to stop everything, I am in
horror and despair.
> Please help!
> Sandra
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I'd love to see if someone knows a supplement for this, but I am betting not! 
We had to stop buying the sweets my friend!  Then my little yeasty bugger (and
the rest of us yeasty people) were able to clean up our diets and actually enjoy
vegetables like we should.  Food and Wine magazine was great for meal ideas.

Liz

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "Genevive32" <genevive32@...> wrote:
>
> Is there anything that can help my daughter who is starting to crave something
with sugar.  She's always in the kitchen looking for something to eat.  It's
driving me nuts. I currently have her taking probiotics after meals and coconut
oil like 3 time a day, and biotin 2 time a day.  Is there anything that can take
that "edge" off her cravings? Thanks, Jenifer
>

No if chelating you should have a protocol running all the time IMHO and
different kids present in different ways, I just remember being in same
position  doing everything 'right' and Dana wrote something or other that made
me
think -  arghhhhhhh its bacteria now, I treated and he was a different kid
in a week,  toilet trained, stopped being so impulsive and stopped smearing,
it was life  changing, damned annoying when I realised the one track mind I
had about yeast  was the likely cause but we all have to go there sometimes
and move on go  forward again.

Impulsive/aggressive behaviour can also be adrenal issues so that's
something to look into also

Mx


In a message dated 01/11/2011 03:46:14 GMT Standard Time,
misterboysmom@... writes:




Mandi are you saying that you only treat for yeast when he is silly giggly
now? I am treating aggressively for yeast all the time. I just don't know
if  that's right or not. Deb

--- In _Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com_
(mailto:Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com) ,  Mum231ASD@... wrote:
>
> Its probably not yeast but bacteria, I  made same mistake going after
yeast
> so hard we ended up with nasty  bacteria which is what causes aggression
and
> impulsiveness in our  house, yeast is stupid giggley behaviour for us
>
> Mandi
>  PS Have you sen any gains? We didn;t for 20 rounds but then it started
to
> shine through
>
>
> In a message dated 31/10/2011  16:29:38 GMT Standard Time,
> krottenbach22@... writes:
>
> Son developed screaming and aggression that never happened before,  and
no
> high dose of antifungals worked against it.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been  removed]
>






[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi This is going to be a long post, but worth reading.

I am a nurse who has recently recovered from the depths of mercury toxicity hell
(many exposures but main ones are from HEP B vaccine and mercury dental fillings
plus IV antibiotics and spinal anesthetics during childbirth). I have
experienced first hand ALL of the physical and neurological symptoms that
autistic children suffer with (Multiple sclerosis also has all the same
symptoms). Trust me when I say that all the money and hope you spend on
supplements, special diets, and anti-candida protocols will not free your
children from their illness and symptoms...because even these well intentioned
protocols are only symptomatic treatments and are not getting at the CAUSE of
their symptoms. Killing the Candida only makes you worse because these yeasts
were gobbling up the mercury in order to save your brain and vital organs.
Killing or starving them results in releasing that mercury as well as toxins
they secrete as they die. Taking supplements barely keeps your head above
water....it is not normal to need to "supplement" vitamins, minerals, hormones,
probiotics, and digestive enzymes indefinitely....Ask yourself,"WHY am I (or my
child) low in these things?".  You are low because the mercury that entered your
body via vaccines, mercury-containing dental materials, and many other
little-known insidious ways has been competing with, displacing, and sabotaging
all of these things that your body was designed to produce or utilize to stay
healthy. Until you REMOVE (safely) this dangerous saboteur you will forever need
to take supplements of every kind and will never really get well. Brilliant
researchers know the very mechanisms by which mercury (and other toxins) wreak
havoc upon our brain, organs, systems, and functions and how each disease or
illness is produced. Too bad our doctors remain ignorant of this lifesaving
research and instead make money from our never-ending poor health. I just
recently stumbled upon a SAFE way to REMOVE mercury from my brain and nervous
system and have recovered from nearly EVERY horrible symptom of mercury toxicity
in a matter of a few weeks! I did NOT have any die-off or negative side effects
during my rapid recovery. My 10 year old daughter has been taking these drops at
the maximum dose as well and has made a huge turn around in her personality,
academics, and ability to learn and remember things. Both of us had similar
symptoms/problems: learning disabilities, short-term memory loss, poor
balance,poor word retrieval, double vision, poor depth perception, blurred
vision, extreme fatigue, gut issues, irritable bowel,depression,
fearfulness,headaches, frequent infections and illnesses, food allergies,
asthma, aches and pains,insomnia, skin rashes/ezcema. The biggest thing we both
are grateful for is the increased brain power and energy levels (mercury causes
depletion of ATP energy and oxygen carrying capacity of all cells including
cells in the muscles, blood, and brain.)

Please feel free to contact me for more information. I can tell you how to get
this for your loved ones at the best price and how nuch to take for how long.It
is NOT a medicine, but an FDA approved dietary supplement that has GRAS status.
It does not cure diseases, but rather it is clinically proven to REMOVE heavy
metals from the body and brain.....so that your body is able to HEAL ITSELF! You
and your children do not need to be lifelong members of the mercury-damaged
club. Get the mercury out SAFELY like I just did and say good riddance to
lifelong special diets, expensive tests, and expensive pharmaceuticals and
nutritional supplements. God designed our bodies to be able to heal
themselves...if we can only do our best to keep toxins and heavy metals OUT or
to safely remove them if they do get in. The chelators that are touted as the
only methods to remove heavy metals from the body or brain are laden with
serious side effects and auto intoxication because they can't hold onto the
metals strong enough to allow them to be excreted completely. What I have found
DOES get them out with none of it getting loose and traveling back to your brain
to cause further damage. Also, curretnly functional med docs are saying that
'nearly 80% of the population is now gluten-sensitive even though they are
unaware of it being the cause of their health problems'. We need to again ask
WHY are so many people gluten sensitive? It is NOT normal to be "allergic or
sensitive" to grains and bread!!! What has changed to make this happen?
Fertilizers, pesticides, and FUNGICIDES that are used in the planting,
harvesting, storage and processing of our food grains all contain small (or
large) amounts of MERCURY and other heavy metals and chemicals!!! They
accumulate in our bodies, they kill our gut flora, they encourage Candida to
flourish, they preferentially attach to our fat which includes our myelin
sheaths on our nerve and brain cells and triggered what docs call "autoimmune"
diseases and neurological diseases. Docs give us all different "disease labels"
so we don't get together and realize that we all have the SAME PROBLEM--mercury
toxicity in varying degrees and in slightly different parts of our brains and
nervous systems. ALS, Autism, Multiple Sclerosis, Parkinsons, Alzheimers
disease....they are all the same thing! (Even cancer, heart disease, and
diabetes are inflammatory disease caused by toxins and metals) Doctors pretend
they "don't know what the cause is" yet they DO know how to CAUSE all these
disorders in HEALTHY LAB ANIMALS (in order to test their new drug hopefuls so
they can patent and market them for big bucks)!!! Medical researchers KNOW and
are trying to make their findings public and get doctors to use their research
findings to help cure people...BUT THEY ARE BEING THWARTED BY THE AMA,ADA,and
FDA!!! Note: antibiotics slow your ability to excrete heavy metals. Ever
wondered why so many of us as well as our children are overweight? It is NOT
because we are all gluttonous people devoid of "self-control". Our bodies
actually have a defense mechansim that works to sequester toxins and heavy
metals safely away into fat cells and labels them with a "DO NOT DISTURB" sign
on them....research leptin and mercury link to learn how come we are unable to
lose our fat.

Contact me and I will answer your questions and help you get the drops that got
me well so fast. We need to help spread the word about how to safely detox our 
bodies and save our children as well. In the meantime...."JUST SAY NO" to
vaccines, fluoride, mercury fillings, non-organic and over-processed
foods,mercury-tinged high fructose corn syrup, excitoxins such as MSG and
Aspartame, and chemicals in our personal care and cleaning products.   Laurie RN

In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "mrboysmom" <misterboysmom@...> wrote:
>
> Mandi are you saying that you only treat for yeast when he is silly giggly
now?  I am treating aggressively for yeast all the time.  I just don't know if
that's right or not.  Deb
>
> --- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, Mum231ASD@ wrote:
> >
> > Its probably not yeast but bacteria, I made same mistake going after yeast
> > so hard we ended up with nasty bacteria which is what causes aggression and
> >  impulsiveness in our house, yeast is stupid giggley behaviour for us
> >
> > Mandi
> > PS Have you sen any gains? We didn;t for 20 rounds but then it started to
> > shine through
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 31/10/2011 16:29:38 GMT Standard Time,
> > krottenbach22@ writes:
> >
> > Son  developed screaming and aggression that never happened before, and no
> > high  dose of antifungals worked against  it.
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

Hi This is going to be a long post, but worth reading.

I am a nurse who has recently recovered from the depths of mercury toxicity hell
(many exposures but main ones are from HEP B vaccine and mercury dental fillings
plus IV antibiotics and spinal anesthetics during childbirth). I have
experienced first hand ALL of the physical and neurological symptoms that
autistic children suffer with (Multiple sclerosis also has all the same
symptoms). Trust me when I say that all the money and hope you spend on
supplements, special diets, and anti-candida protocols will not free your
children from their illness and symptoms...because even these well intentioned
protocols are only symptomatic treatments and are not getting at the CAUSE of
their symptoms. Killing the Candida only makes you worse because these yeasts
were gobbling up the mercury in order to save your brain and vital organs.
Killing or starving them results in releasing that mercury as well as toxins
they secrete as they die. Taking supplements barely keeps your head above
water....it is not normal to need to "supplement" vitamins, minerals, hormones,
probiotics, and digestive enzymes indefinitely....Ask yourself,"WHY am I (or my
child) low in these things?".  You are low because the mercury that entered your
body via vaccines, mercury-containing dental materials, and many other
little-known insidious ways has been competing with, displacing, and sabotaging
all of these things that your body was designed to produce or utilize to stay
healthy. Until you REMOVE (safely) this dangerous saboteur you will forever need
to take supplements of every kind and will never really get well. Brilliant
researchers know the very mechanisms by which mercury (and other toxins) wreak
havoc upon our brain, organs, systems, and functions and how each disease or
illness is produced. Too bad our doctors remain ignorant of this lifesaving
research and instead make money from our never-ending poor health. I just
recently stumbled upon a SAFE way to REMOVE mercury from my brain and nervous
system and have recovered from nearly EVERY horrible symptom of mercury toxicity
in a matter of a few weeks! I did NOT have any die-off or negative side effects
during my rapid recovery. My 10 year old daughter has been taking these drops at
the maximum dose as well and has made a huge turn around in her personality,
academics, and ability to learn and remember things. Both of us had similar
symptoms/problems: learning disabilities, short-term memory loss, poor
balance,poor word retrieval, double vision, poor depth perception, blurred
vision, extreme fatigue, gut issues, irritable bowel,depression,
fearfulness,headaches, frequent infections and illnesses, food allergies,
asthma, aches and pains,insomnia, skin rashes/ezcema. The biggest thing we both
are grateful for is the increased brain power and energy levels (mercury causes
depletion of ATP energy and oxygen carrying capacity of all cells including
cells in the muscles, blood, and brain.)

Please feel free to contact me for more information. I can tell you how to get
this for your loved ones at the best price and how nuch to take for how long.It
is NOT a medicine, but an FDA approved dietary supplement that has GRAS status.
It does not cure diseases, but rather it is clinically proven to REMOVE heavy
metals from the body and brain.....so that your body is able to HEAL ITSELF! You
and your children do not need to be lifelong members of the mercury-damaged
club. Get the mercury out SAFELY like I just did and say good riddance to
lifelong special diets, expensive tests, and expensive pharmaceuticals and
nutritional supplements. God designed our bodies to be able to heal
themselves...if we can only do our best to keep toxins and heavy metals OUT or
to safely remove them if they do get in. The chelators that are touted as the
only methods to remove heavy metals from the body or brain are laden with
serious side effects and auto intoxication because they can't hold onto the
metals strong enough to allow them to be excreted completely. What I have found
DOES get them out with none of it getting loose and traveling back to your brain
to cause further damage. Also, curretnly functional med docs are saying that
'nearly 80% of the population is now gluten-sensitive even though they are
unaware of it being the cause of their health problems'. We need to again ask
WHY are so many people gluten sensitive? It is NOT normal to be "allergic or
sensitive" to grains and bread!!! What has changed to make this happen?
Fertilizers, pesticides, and FUNGICIDES that are used in the planting,
harvesting, storage and processing of our food grains all contain small (or
large) amounts of MERCURY and other heavy metals and chemicals!!! They
accumulate in our bodies, they kill our gut flora, they encourage Candida to
flourish, they preferentially attach to our fat which includes our myelin
sheaths on our nerve and brain cells and triggered what docs call "autoimmune"
diseases and neurological diseases. Docs give us all different "disease labels"
so we don't get together and realize that we all have the SAME PROBLEM--mercury
toxicity in varying degrees and in slightly different parts of our brains and
nervous systems. ALS, Autism, Multiple Sclerosis, Parkinsons, Alzheimers
disease....they are all the same thing! (Even cancer, heart disease, and
diabetes are inflammatory disease caused by toxins and metals) Doctors pretend
they "don't know what the cause is" yet they DO know how to CAUSE all these
disorders in HEALTHY LAB ANIMALS (in order to test their new drug hopefuls so
they can patent and market them for big bucks)!!! Medical researchers KNOW and
are trying to make their findings public and get doctors to use their research
findings to help cure people...BUT THEY ARE BEING THWARTED BY THE AMA,ADA,and
FDA!!!  Ever wondered why so many of us as well as our children are overweight?
Our bodies have a defense mechansim that works to sequester toxins and heavy
metals safely away into fat cells and labels them with a "DO NOT DISTURB" sign
on them....research leptin and mercury link to learn how come we are unable to
lose our fat. Contact me and I will answer your questions and help you get the
drops that got me well so fast. We need to help spread the word about how to
safely detox our  bodies and save our children as well. In the meantime...."JUST
SAY NO" to vaccines, fluoride, mercury fillings, non-organic and processed
foods,mercury-tinged high fructose corn syrup, excitoxins such as MSG and
Aspartame, and chemicals in our personal care and cleaning products.   Laurie RN

Hi Laurie,

May I ask why do we need to contact you privately for info on these drops?

You can openly share on it like you did with this explanation, can't you?

Rafidah

Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile.

-----Original Message-----
From: "weedmessmom" <weedmessmom@...>
Sender: Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 08:16:10
To: <Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com>
Reply-To: Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Autism-Mercury] Re: candida horror

Hi This is going to be a long post, but worth reading.

I am a nurse who has recently recovered from the depths of mercury toxicity hell
(many exposures but main ones are from HEP B vaccine and mercury dental fillings
plus IV antibiotics and spinal anesthetics during childbirth). I have
experienced first hand ALL of the physical and neurological symptoms that
autistic children suffer with (Multiple sclerosis also has all the same
symptoms). Trust me when I say that all the money and hope you spend on
supplements, special diets, and anti-candida protocols will not free your
children from their illness and symptoms...because even these well intentioned
protocols are only symptomatic treatments and are not getting at the CAUSE of
their symptoms. Killing the Candida only makes you worse because these yeasts
were gobbling up the mercury in order to save your brain and vital organs.
Killing or starving them results in releasing that mercury as well as toxins
they secrete as they die. Taking supplements barely keeps your head above
water....it is not normal to need to "supplement" vitamins, minerals, hormones,
probiotics, and digestive enzymes indefinitely....Ask yourself,"WHY am I (or my
child) low in these things?".  You are low because the mercury that entered your
body via vaccines, mercury-containing dental materials, and many other
little-known insidious ways has been competing with, displacing, and sabotaging
all of these things that your body was designed to produce or utilize to stay
healthy. Until you REMOVE (safely) this dangerous saboteur you will forever need
to take supplements of every kind and will never really get well. Brilliant
researchers know the very mechanisms by which mercury (and other toxins) wreak
havoc upon our brain, organs, systems, and functions and how each disease or
illness is produced. Too bad our doctors remain ignorant of this lifesaving
research and instead make money from our never-ending poor health. I just
recently stumbled upon a SAFE way to REMOVE mercury from my brain and nervous
system and have recovered from nearly EVERY horrible symptom of mercury toxicity
in a matter of a few weeks! I did NOT have any die-off or negative side effects
during my rapid recovery. My 10 year old daughter has been taking these drops at
the maximum dose as well and has made a huge turn around in her personality,
academics, and ability to learn and remember things. Both of us had similar
symptoms/problems: learning disabilities, short-term memory loss, poor
balance,poor word retrieval, double vision, poor depth perception, blurred
vision, extreme fatigue, gut issues, irritable bowel,depression,
fearfulness,headaches, frequent infections and illnesses, food allergies,
asthma, aches and pains,insomnia, skin rashes/ezcema. The biggest thing we both
are grateful for is the increased brain power and energy levels (mercury causes
depletion of ATP energy and oxygen carrying capacity of all cells including
cells in the muscles, blood, and brain.)

Please feel free to contact me for more information. I can tell you how to get
this for your loved ones at the best price and how nuch to take for how long.It
is NOT a medicine, but an FDA approved dietary supplement that has GRAS status.
It does not cure diseases, but rather it is clinically proven to REMOVE heavy
metals from the body and brain.....so that your body is able to HEAL ITSELF! You
and your children do not need to be lifelong members of the mercury-damaged
club. Get the mercury out SAFELY like I just did and say good riddance to
lifelong special diets, expensive tests, and expensive pharmaceuticals and
nutritional supplements. God designed our bodies to be able to heal
themselves...if we can only do our best to keep toxins and heavy metals OUT or
to safely remove them if they do get in. The chelators that are touted as the
only methods to remove heavy metals from the body or brain are laden with
serious side effects and auto intoxication because they can't hold onto the
metals strong enough to allow them to be excreted completely. What I have found
DOES get them out with none of it getting loose and traveling back to your brain
to cause further damage. Also, curretnly functional med docs are saying that
'nearly 80% of the population is now gluten-sensitive even though they are
unaware of it being the cause of their health problems'. We need to again ask
WHY are so many people gluten sensitive? It is NOT normal to be "allergic or
sensitive" to grains and bread!!! What has changed to make this happen?
Fertilizers, pesticides, and FUNGICIDES that are used in the planting,
harvesting, storage and processing of our food grains all contain small (or
large) amounts of MERCURY and other heavy metals and chemicals!!! They
accumulate in our bodies, they kill our gut flora, they encourage Candida to
flourish, they preferentially attach to our fat which includes our myelin
sheaths on our nerve and brain cells and triggered what docs call "autoimmune"
diseases and neurological diseases. Docs give us all different "disease labels"
so we don't get together and realize that we all have the SAME PROBLEM--mercury
toxicity in varying degrees and in slightly different parts of our brains and
nervous systems. ALS, Autism, Multiple Sclerosis, Parkinsons, Alzheimers
disease....they are all the same thing! (Even cancer, heart disease, and
diabetes are inflammatory disease caused by toxins and metals) Doctors pretend
they "don't know what the cause is" yet they DO know how to CAUSE all these
disorders in HEALTHY LAB ANIMALS (in order to test their new drug hopefuls so
they can patent and market them for big bucks)!!! Medical researchers KNOW and
are trying to make their findings public and get doctors to use their research
findings to help cure people...BUT THEY ARE BEING THWARTED BY THE AMA,ADA,and
FDA!!! Note: antibiotics slow your ability to excrete heavy metals. Ever
wondered why so many of us as well as our children are overweight? It is NOT
because we are all gluttonous people devoid of "self-control". Our bodies
actually have a defense mechansim that works to sequester toxins and heavy
metals safely away into fat cells and labels them with a "DO NOT DISTURB" sign
on them....research leptin and mercury link to learn how come we are unable to
lose our fat.

Contact me and I will answer your questions and help you get the drops that got
me well so fast. We need to help spread the word about how to safely detox our 
bodies and save our children as well. In the meantime...."JUST SAY NO" to
vaccines, fluoride, mercury fillings, non-organic and over-processed
foods,mercury-tinged high fructose corn syrup, excitoxins such as MSG and
Aspartame, and chemicals in our personal care and cleaning products.   Laurie RN

In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "mrboysmom" <misterboysmom@...> wrote:
>
> Mandi are you saying that you only treat for yeast when he is silly giggly
now?  I am treating aggressively for yeast all the time.  I just don't know if
that's right or not.  Deb
>
> --- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, Mum231ASD@ wrote:
> >
> > Its probably not yeast but bacteria, I made same mistake going after yeast
> > so hard we ended up with nasty bacteria which is what causes aggression and
> >  impulsiveness in our house, yeast is stupid giggley behaviour for us
> >
> > Mandi
> > PS Have you sen any gains? We didn;t for 20 rounds but then it started to
> > shine through
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 31/10/2011 16:29:38 GMT Standard Time,
> > krottenbach22@ writes:
> >
> > Son  developed screaming and aggression that never happened before, and no
> > high  dose of antifungals worked against  it.
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Laurie,

May I ask why do we need to contact you privately for info on these drops?

You can openly share on it like you did with this explanation, can't you?

Rafidah

Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile.

-----Original Message-----
From: "weedmessmom" <weedmessmom@...>
Sender: Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 08:26:12
To: <Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com>
Reply-To: Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Autism-Mercury] New safe mercury detox alllows body to heal itself
from autism, MS, ALS, Alzheim

  Hi This is going to be a long post, but worth reading.

I am a nurse who has recently recovered from the depths of mercury toxicity hell
(many exposures but main ones are from HEP B vaccine and mercury dental fillings
plus IV antibiotics and spinal anesthetics during childbirth). I have
experienced first hand ALL of the physical and neurological symptoms that
autistic children suffer with (Multiple sclerosis also has all the same
symptoms). Trust me when I say that all the money and hope you spend on
supplements, special diets, and anti-candida protocols will not free your
children from their illness and symptoms...because even these well intentioned
protocols are only symptomatic treatments and are not getting at the CAUSE of
their symptoms. Killing the Candida only makes you worse because these yeasts
were gobbling up the mercury in order to save your brain and vital organs.
Killing or starving them results in releasing that mercury as well as toxins
they secrete as they die. Taking supplements barely keeps your head above
water....it is not normal to need to "supplement" vitamins, minerals, hormones,
probiotics, and digestive enzymes indefinitely....Ask yourself,"WHY am I (or my
child) low in these things?".  You are low because the mercury that entered your
body via vaccines, mercury-containing dental materials, and many other
little-known insidious ways has been competing with, displacing, and sabotaging
all of these things that your body was designed to produce or utilize to stay
healthy. Until you REMOVE (safely) this dangerous saboteur you will forever need
to take supplements of every kind and will never really get well. Brilliant
researchers know the very mechanisms by which mercury (and other toxins) wreak
havoc upon our brain, organs, systems, and functions and how each disease or
illness is produced. Too bad our doctors remain ignorant of this lifesaving
research and instead make money from our never-ending poor health. I just
recently stumbled upon a SAFE way to REMOVE mercury from my brain and nervous
system and have recovered from nearly EVERY horrible symptom of mercury toxicity
in a matter of a few weeks! I did NOT have any die-off or negative side effects
during my rapid recovery. My 10 year old daughter has been taking these drops at
the maximum dose as well and has made a huge turn around in her personality,
academics, and ability to learn and remember things. Both of us had similar
symptoms/problems: learning disabilities, short-term memory loss, poor
balance,poor word retrieval, double vision, poor depth perception, blurred
vision, extreme fatigue, gut issues, irritable bowel,depression,
fearfulness,headaches, frequent infections and illnesses, food allergies,
asthma, aches and pains,insomnia, skin rashes/ezcema. The biggest thing we both
are grateful for is the increased brain power and energy levels (mercury causes
depletion of ATP energy and oxygen carrying capacity of all cells including
cells in the muscles, blood, and brain.)

Please feel free to contact me for more information. I can tell you how to get
this for your loved ones at the best price and how nuch to take for how long.It
is NOT a medicine, but an FDA approved dietary supplement that has GRAS status.
It does not cure diseases, but rather it is clinically proven to REMOVE heavy
metals from the body and brain.....so that your body is able to HEAL ITSELF! You
and your children do not need to be lifelong members of the mercury-damaged
club. Get the mercury out SAFELY like I just did and say good riddance to
lifelong special diets, expensive tests, and expensive pharmaceuticals and
nutritional supplements. God designed our bodies to be able to heal
themselves...if we can only do our best to keep toxins and heavy metals OUT or
to safely remove them if they do get in. The chelators that are touted as the
only methods to remove heavy metals from the body or brain are laden with
serious side effects and auto intoxication because they can't hold onto the
metals strong enough to allow them to be excreted completely. What I have found
DOES get them out with none of it getting loose and traveling back to your brain
to cause further damage. Also, curretnly functional med docs are saying that
'nearly 80% of the population is now gluten-sensitive even though they are
unaware of it being the cause of their health problems'. We need to again ask
WHY are so many people gluten sensitive? It is NOT normal to be "allergic or
sensitive" to grains and bread!!! What has changed to make this happen?
Fertilizers, pesticides, and FUNGICIDES that are used in the planting,
harvesting, storage and processing of our food grains all contain small (or
large) amounts of MERCURY and other heavy metals and chemicals!!! They
accumulate in our bodies, they kill our gut flora, they encourage Candida to
flourish, they preferentially attach to our fat which includes our myelin
sheaths on our nerve and brain cells and triggered what docs call "autoimmune"
diseases and neurological diseases. Docs give us all different "disease labels"
so we don't get together and realize that we all have the SAME PROBLEM--mercury
toxicity in varying degrees and in slightly different parts of our brains and
nervous systems. ALS, Autism, Multiple Sclerosis, Parkinsons, Alzheimers
disease....they are all the same thing! (Even cancer, heart disease, and
diabetes are inflammatory disease caused by toxins and metals) Doctors pretend
they "don't know what the cause is" yet they DO know how to CAUSE all these
disorders in HEALTHY LAB ANIMALS (in order to test their new drug hopefuls so
they can patent and market them for big bucks)!!! Medical researchers KNOW and
are trying to make their findings public and get doctors to use their research
findings to help cure people...BUT THEY ARE BEING THWARTED BY THE AMA,ADA,and
FDA!!!  Ever wondered why so many of us as well as our children are overweight?
Our bodies have a defense mechansim that works to sequester toxins and heavy
metals safely away into fat cells and labels them with a "DO NOT DISTURB" sign
on them....research leptin and mercury link to learn how come we are unable to
lose our fat. Contact me and I will answer your questions and help you get the
drops that got me well so fast. We need to help spread the word about how to
safely detox our  bodies and save our children as well. In the meantime...."JUST
SAY NO" to vaccines, fluoride, mercury fillings, non-organic and processed
foods,mercury-tinged high fructose corn syrup, excitoxins such as MSG and
Aspartame, and chemicals in our personal care and cleaning products.   Laurie RN





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Rafida,

If you knew how seriously ill I have been, how much money and time I have spent
trying to get well, and how much of a treasure my miracle detox method is to me,
you would understand my desire to protect it. I certainly do NOT want it to end
up like the electric car and many cancer cures that got squashed, silenced, or
boughtout by big pharma competitors. I will share it one person at a time with
those who show sincere interest. There are too many people in my life who need
this to jeopardize its availability. I hope you understand. I have only been
well for about six weeks and it is almost too wonderful to express. If I didn't
find it, I know EXACTLY where I would be today...in mercury-induced autoimmune
and neurological hell. I was even losing the ability to complete a sentence, to
see, to think, or to swallow. There is nothing like it, so I will never
jeopardize it foolishly. It does what it is approved by the FDA to do- safely
removes heavy metals from the body. End of story. You are free to contact me at
my personal email for info on how to order it.  Laurie

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, rrafidah@... wrote:
>
> Hi Laurie,
>
> May I ask why do we need to contact you privately for info on these drops?
>
> You can openly share on it like you did with this explanation, can't you?
>
> Rafidah
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "weedmessmom" <weedmessmom@...>
> Sender: Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 08:26:12
> To: <Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com>
> Reply-To: Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Autism-Mercury] New safe mercury detox alllows body to heal itself
from autism, MS, ALS, Alzheim
>
>  Hi This is going to be a long post, but worth reading.
>
> I am a nurse who has recently recovered from the depths of mercury toxicity
hell (many exposures but main ones are from HEP B vaccine and mercury dental
fillings plus IV antibiotics and spinal anesthetics during childbirth). I have
experienced first hand ALL of the physical and neurological symptoms that
autistic children suffer with (Multiple sclerosis also has all the same
symptoms). Trust me when I say that all the money and hope you spend on
supplements, special diets, and anti-candida protocols will not free your
children from their illness and symptoms...because even these well intentioned
protocols are only symptomatic treatments and are not getting at the CAUSE of
their symptoms. Killing the Candida only makes you worse because these yeasts
were gobbling up the mercury in order to save your brain and vital organs.
Killing or starving them results in releasing that mercury as well as toxins
they secrete as they die. Taking supplements barely keeps your head above
water....it is not normal to need to "supplement" vitamins, minerals, hormones,
probiotics, and digestive enzymes indefinitely....Ask yourself,"WHY am I (or my
child) low in these things?".  You are low because the mercury that entered your
body via vaccines, mercury-containing dental materials, and many other
little-known insidious ways has been competing with, displacing, and sabotaging
all of these things that your body was designed to produce or utilize to stay
healthy. Until you REMOVE (safely) this dangerous saboteur you will forever need
to take supplements of every kind and will never really get well. Brilliant
researchers know the very mechanisms by which mercury (and other toxins) wreak
havoc upon our brain, organs, systems, and functions and how each disease or
illness is produced. Too bad our doctors remain ignorant of this lifesaving
research and instead make money from our never-ending poor health. I just
recently stumbled upon a SAFE way to REMOVE mercury from my brain and nervous
system and have recovered from nearly EVERY horrible symptom of mercury toxicity
in a matter of a few weeks! I did NOT have any die-off or negative side effects
during my rapid recovery. My 10 year old daughter has been taking these drops at
the maximum dose as well and has made a huge turn around in her personality,
academics, and ability to learn and remember things. Both of us had similar
symptoms/problems: learning disabilities, short-term memory loss, poor
balance,poor word retrieval, double vision, poor depth perception, blurred
vision, extreme fatigue, gut issues, irritable bowel,depression,
fearfulness,headaches, frequent infections and illnesses, food allergies,
asthma, aches and pains,insomnia, skin rashes/ezcema. The biggest thing we both
are grateful for is the increased brain power and energy levels (mercury causes
depletion of ATP energy and oxygen carrying capacity of all cells including
cells in the muscles, blood, and brain.)
>
> Please feel free to contact me for more information. I can tell you how to get
this for your loved ones at the best price and how nuch to take for how long.It
is NOT a medicine, but an FDA approved dietary supplement that has GRAS status.
It does not cure diseases, but rather it is clinically proven to REMOVE heavy
metals from the body and brain.....so that your body is able to HEAL ITSELF! You
and your children do not need to be lifelong members of the mercury-damaged
club. Get the mercury out SAFELY like I just did and say good riddance to
lifelong special diets, expensive tests, and expensive pharmaceuticals and
nutritional supplements. God designed our bodies to be able to heal
themselves...if we can only do our best to keep toxins and heavy metals OUT or
to safely remove them if they do get in. The chelators that are touted as the
only methods to remove heavy metals from the body or brain are laden with
serious side effects and auto intoxication because they can't hold onto the
metals strong enough to allow them to be excreted completely. What I have found
DOES get them out with none of it getting loose and traveling back to your brain
to cause further damage. Also, curretnly functional med docs are saying that
'nearly 80% of the population is now gluten-sensitive even though they are
unaware of it being the cause of their health problems'. We need to again ask
WHY are so many people gluten sensitive? It is NOT normal to be "allergic or
sensitive" to grains and bread!!! What has changed to make this happen?
Fertilizers, pesticides, and FUNGICIDES that are used in the planting,
harvesting, storage and processing of our food grains all contain small (or
large) amounts of MERCURY and other heavy metals and chemicals!!! They
accumulate in our bodies, they kill our gut flora, they encourage Candida to
flourish, they preferentially attach to our fat which includes our myelin
sheaths on our nerve and brain cells and triggered what docs call "autoimmune"
diseases and neurological diseases. Docs give us all different "disease labels"
so we don't get together and realize that we all have the SAME PROBLEM--mercury
toxicity in varying degrees and in slightly different parts of our brains and
nervous systems. ALS, Autism, Multiple Sclerosis, Parkinsons, Alzheimers
disease....they are all the same thing! (Even cancer, heart disease, and
diabetes are inflammatory disease caused by toxins and metals) Doctors pretend
they "don't know what the cause is" yet they DO know how to CAUSE all these
disorders in HEALTHY LAB ANIMALS (in order to test their new drug hopefuls so
they can patent and market them for big bucks)!!! Medical researchers KNOW and
are trying to make their findings public and get doctors to use their research
findings to help cure people...BUT THEY ARE BEING THWARTED BY THE AMA,ADA,and
FDA!!!  Ever wondered why so many of us as well as our children are overweight?
Our bodies have a defense mechansim that works to sequester toxins and heavy
metals safely away into fat cells and labels them with a "DO NOT DISTURB" sign
on them....research leptin and mercury link to learn how come we are unable to
lose our fat. Contact me and I will answer your questions and help you get the
drops that got me well so fast. We need to help spread the word about how to
safely detox our  bodies and save our children as well. In the meantime...."JUST
SAY NO" to vaccines, fluoride, mercury fillings, non-organic and processed
foods,mercury-tinged high fructose corn syrup, excitoxins such as MSG and
Aspartame, and chemicals in our personal care and cleaning products.   Laurie RN
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hello Laurie,

read my notes and wall on facebook, it might give you somemore answers
to your already well informed knowledge abot mercury-sensitivity.

Claus-Peter Kessler MD

-----Original Message-----
Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 09:32:32 +0100
Subject: Re: [Autism-Mercury] New safe mercury detox alllows body to
heal itself from autism, MS, ALS, Alzheim
From: rrafidah@...
To: Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com

Hi Laurie,



May I ask why do we need to contact you privately for info on these
drops?



You can openly share on it like you did with this explanation, can't
you?



Rafidah

 

Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile.



-----Original Message-----

From: "weedmessmom" <weedmessmom@...>

Sender: Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com

Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 08:26:12

To: <Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com>

Reply-To: Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [Autism-Mercury] New safe mercury detox alllows body to heal
itself from autism, MS, ALS, Alzheim



Hi This is going to be a long post, but worth reading.



I am a nurse who has recently recovered from the depths of mercury
toxicity hell (many exposures but main ones are from HEP B vaccine and
mercury dental fillings plus IV antibiotics and spinal anesthetics
during childbirth). I have experienced first hand ALL of the physical
and neurological symptoms that autistic children suffer with (Multiple
sclerosis also has all the same symptoms). Trust me when I say that all
the money and hope you spend on supplements, special diets, and
anti-candida protocols will not free your children from their illness
and symptoms...because even these well intentioned protocols are only
symptomatic treatments and are not getting at the CAUSE of their
symptoms. Killing the Candida only makes you worse because these yeasts
were gobbling up the mercury in order to save your brain and vital
organs. Killing or starving them results in releasing that mercury as
well as toxins they secrete as they die. Taking supplements barely keeps
your head above water....it is not normal to need to "supplement"
vitamins, minerals, hormones, probiotics, and digestive enzymes
indefinitely....Ask yourself,"WHY am I (or my child) low in these
things?".  You are low because the mercury that entered your body via
vaccines, mercury-containing dental materials, and many other
little-known insidious ways has been competing with, displacing, and
sabotaging all of these things that your body was designed to produce or
utilize to stay healthy. Until you REMOVE (safely) this dangerous
saboteur you will forever need to take supplements of every kind and
will never really get well. Brilliant researchers know the very
mechanisms by which mercury (and other toxins) wreak havoc upon our
brain, organs, systems, and functions and how each disease or illness is
produced. Too bad our doctors remain ignorant of this lifesaving
research and instead make money from our never-ending poor health. I
just recently stumbled upon a SAFE way to REMOVE mercury from my brain
and nervous system and have recovered from nearly EVERY horrible symptom
of mercury toxicity in a matter of a few weeks! I did NOT have any
die-off or negative side effects during my rapid recovery. My 10 year
old daughter has been taking these drops at the maximum dose as well and
has made a huge turn around in her personality, academics, and ability
to learn and remember things. Both of us had similar symptoms/problems:
learning disabilities, short-term memory loss, poor balance,poor word
retrieval, double vision, poor depth perception, blurred vision, extreme
fatigue, gut issues, irritable bowel,depression, fearfulness,headaches,
frequent infections and illnesses, food allergies, asthma, aches and
pains,insomnia, skin rashes/ezcema. The biggest thing we both are
grateful for is the increased brain power and energy levels (mercury
causes depletion of ATP energy and oxygen carrying capacity of all cells
including cells in the muscles, blood, and brain.)



Please feel free to contact me for more information. I can tell you how
to get this for your loved ones at the best price and how nuch to take
for how long.It is NOT a medicine, but an FDA approved dietary
supplement that has GRAS status. It does not cure diseases, but rather
it is clinically proven to REMOVE heavy metals from the body and
brain.....so that your body is able to HEAL ITSELF! You and your
children do not need to be lifelong members of the mercury-damaged club.
Get the mercury out SAFELY like I just did and say good riddance to
lifelong special diets, expensive tests, and expensive pharmaceuticals
and nutritional supplements. God designed our bodies to be able to heal
themselves...if we can only do our best to keep toxins and heavy metals
OUT or to safely remove them if they do get in. The chelators that are
touted as the only methods to remove heavy metals from the body or brain
are laden with serious side effects and auto intoxication because they
can't hold onto the metals strong enough to allow them to be excreted
completely. What I have found DOES get them out with none of it getting
loose and traveling back to your brain to cause further damage. Also,
curretnly functional med docs are saying that 'nearly 80% of the
population is now gluten-sensitive even though they are unaware of it
being the cause of their health problems'. We need to again ask WHY are
so many people gluten sensitive? It is NOT normal to be "allergic or
sensitive" to grains and bread!!! What has changed to make this happen?
Fertilizers, pesticides, and FUNGICIDES that are used in the planting,
harvesting, storage and processing of our food grains all contain small
(or large) amounts of MERCURY and other heavy metals and chemicals!!!
They accumulate in our bodies, they kill our gut flora, they encourage
Candida to flourish, they preferentially attach to our fat which
includes our myelin sheaths on our nerve and brain cells and triggered
what docs call "autoimmune" diseases and neurological diseases. Docs
give us all different "disease labels" so we don't get together and
realize that we all have the SAME PROBLEM--mercury toxicity in varying
degrees and in slightly different parts of our brains and nervous
systems. ALS, Autism, Multiple Sclerosis, Parkinsons, Alzheimers
disease....they are all the same thing! (Even cancer, heart disease, and
diabetes are inflammatory disease caused by toxins and metals) Doctors
pretend they "don't know what the cause is" yet they DO know how to
CAUSE all these disorders in HEALTHY LAB ANIMALS (in order to test their
new drug hopefuls so they can patent and market them for big bucks)!!!
Medical researchers KNOW and are trying to make their findings public
and get doctors to use their research findings to help cure people...BUT
THEY ARE BEING THWARTED BY THE AMA,ADA,and FDA!!!  Ever wondered why so
many of us as well as our children are overweight? Our bodies have a
defense mechansim that works to sequester toxins and heavy metals safely
away into fat cells and labels them with a "DO NOT DISTURB" sign on
them....research leptin and mercury link to learn how come we are unable
to lose our fat. Contact me and I will answer your questions and help
you get the drops that got me well so fast. We need to help spread the
word about how to safely detox our  bodies and save our children as
well. In the meantime...."JUST SAY NO" to vaccines, fluoride, mercury
fillings, non-organic and processed foods,mercury-tinged high fructose
corn syrup, excitoxins such as MSG and Aspartame, and chemicals in our
personal care and cleaning products.   Laurie RN    









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I hope that whatever you decide, that it isn't the IV chelation...that is the
absolute worst thing from allthe things that I have read.

About the supps and such....have you had allergy testing.  We had a terrible
time with supps til we got the allergy blood work done...then it became
easier...mine were allergic to corn!!

Have you tried culturelle?  You could give that a couple hours away from yeast
killers...also olive leaf extract.

Have you tried immune boosters?  That has helped alot.  Arabinogalacatacan or
epicor or beta glucan.  My kids take all 3 and adrenals and we are still
struggling. Yeast for some of us is about the worst thing there is.  Just keep
pluggin and don't give up...we have done over 100 rounds and we are still
strugglin with yeast issues...we have had to do all the above, nystatin and
ferments, and a low carb diet and it is still hard...

I am not a Tom Petty fan...but I often have to listen to his song...Don't back
down....cuz that is just where we have to be...and it is easy to say and hard to
do...just know we are right there with ya.

A

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "krottenbach22" <krottenbach22@...>
wrote:
>
> Hello group.
> We've done 20 rounds of chelation with low dose 5mg DMSA and 5 mg ALA. It took
me a year to start it because introducing supps was so hard. Son developed
screaming and aggression that never happened before, and no high dose of
antifungals worked against it. I stopped all supps several times and tryied to
restart them again some time later, but it only got worse. We now live in fear
of everyday terrible tantrums with selfaggression and screaming. I give medical
antifungals too often because GSE, OoO, Biotin, Biocidin, Candidase and Candex
don't work.
> Who had the same problem, and what did you do?
>
> I am very close to leave it all, to do IV, or to stop everything, I am in
horror and despair.
> Please help!
> Sandra
>

Dana,
Which OLE did you use with such great sucess?
 
That chronic inflammation from viral, bacterial or what ever still comes and
goes in my son.  It always settles down with a round antibiotics.  I would not
like to go that way again.
 
Linda B

________________________________
From: danasview <danasview@...>
To: Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 8:45 AM
Subject: [Autism-Mercury] Re: PANDAS and ALA chelation - Please help!


 
--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, Mark Mustain <jitimark08@...> wrote:
> Thank you Dana.
> He has pneumonia mycoplasma positive and treated with zithromax for 10 days
about 1.5 month ago.

I used Zithromax for my #4 when she had strep many years ago. It caused the
strep symptoms to "go away" for about 3 weeks, then come back. This happened
four times. The fourth time, I did not take her to the ped to get yet another rx
for Zithromax, instead I gave her OLE. The strep disappeared and has never come
back.

> But his behavior (hyper, tantrums, OCD, non complianc) start to happen when we
started chelation with ALA.
> He has selenium and Bcomplex capsules from thorne and P5P from kirkman - he
never given Taurine though, what brand i should get and what is the dose for him
( he is 50 lbs)?

I used NOW taurine and started at 250mg.

> His yeast protocol is:
>  
> 1. biotin 30-40 mg (night)
> 2. OoO (10 drops in the AM and 10 drops in PM)
> 3. Yeast aid (2 in AM and 2 in PM)
> 4. GSE (2 om AM and 2 in PM)
> 5. Culturelle - 3 at bedtime
> Should i increase all of these?

I would divide the biotin into multiple doses during the day, and increase the
GSE to give another dose mid-day. See if that helps.

> Should I add Candidase ? i know everyone is different, but what is the worse
case adding this?

That can help control the yeast, but you have to be sure to give it on an empty
stomach.

> I've been thinking to add : Caprilic Acid, Uva Ursi and Golden seal - do you
think it is good idea?

You are already giving several things, I don't know that I would recommend
adding more items.

> I am planning to give ACE (i never test his thyroid) - should i try low dose?

ACE is for adrenals. I always recommend starting low dose for anything new you
try. My son had a severe negative reaction to ACE so I definitely recommend you
start low dose.

> I am worry with hyperactivity/tantrums worsening with any of these but it is
bad now.

Does he have a problem with phenols? Because most of the yeast killers,
including several of the ones you are giving, are very high phenol. You can try
giving them with No-Fenol enzyme, see if that helps.

> My son talk to himself alot, not talking to me, he is also not answering when
asked. Do you think ALA chelation will help him communicate (social
communication, ie. answer questions) eventually?

It helped my son, but it was not the only thing that was required. Talking to
himself was mostly addressed with folic acid, and also mB12 and anti-virals.

Dana




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Bet it's a MLM thing. She is making money selling it. If not, she would just
share what it is and tell you where to order it.


--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "weedmessmom" <weedmessmom@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Rafida,
>
> If you knew how seriously ill I have been, how much money and time I have
spent trying to get well, and how much of a treasure my miracle detox method is
to me, you would understand my desire to protect it. I certainly do NOT want it
to end up like the electric car and many cancer cures that got squashed,
silenced, or boughtout by big pharma competitors. I will share it one person at
a time with those who show sincere interest. There are too many people in my
life who need this to jeopardize its availability. I hope you understand. I have
only been well for about six weeks and it is almost too wonderful to express. If
I didn't find it, I know EXACTLY where I would be today...in mercury-induced
autoimmune and neurological hell. I was even losing the ability to complete a
sentence, to see, to think, or to swallow. There is nothing like it, so I will
never jeopardize it foolishly. It does what it is approved by the FDA to do-
safely removes heavy metals from the body. End of story. You are free to contact
me at my personal email for info on how to order it.  Laurie
>
> --- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, rrafidah@ wrote:
> >
> > Hi Laurie,
> >
> > May I ask why do we need to contact you privately for info on these drops?
> >
> > You can openly share on it like you did with this explanation, can't you?
> >
> > Rafidah
> >
> > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "weedmessmom" <weedmessmom@>
> > Sender: Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 08:26:12
> > To: <Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com>
> > Reply-To: Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Autism-Mercury] New safe mercury detox alllows body to heal itself
from autism, MS, ALS, Alzheim
> >
> >  Hi This is going to be a long post, but worth reading.
> >
> > I am a nurse who has recently recovered from the depths of mercury toxicity
hell (many exposures but main ones are from HEP B vaccine and mercury dental
fillings plus IV antibiotics and spinal anesthetics during childbirth). I have
experienced first hand ALL of the physical and neurological symptoms that
autistic children suffer with (Multiple sclerosis also has all the same
symptoms). Trust me when I say that all the money and hope you spend on
supplements, special diets, and anti-candida protocols will not free your
children from their illness and symptoms...because even these well intentioned
protocols are only symptomatic treatments and are not getting at the CAUSE of
their symptoms. Killing the Candida only makes you worse because these yeasts
were gobbling up the mercury in order to save your brain and vital organs.
Killing or starving them results in releasing that mercury as well as toxins
they secrete as they die. Taking supplements barely keeps your head above
water....it is not normal to need to "supplement" vitamins, minerals, hormones,
probiotics, and digestive enzymes indefinitely....Ask yourself,"WHY am I (or my
child) low in these things?".  You are low because the mercury that entered your
body via vaccines, mercury-containing dental materials, and many other
little-known insidious ways has been competing with, displacing, and sabotaging
all of these things that your body was designed to produce or utilize to stay
healthy. Until you REMOVE (safely) this dangerous saboteur you will forever need
to take supplements of every kind and will never really get well. Brilliant
researchers know the very mechanisms by which mercury (and other toxins) wreak
havoc upon our brain, organs, systems, and functions and how each disease or
illness is produced. Too bad our doctors remain ignorant of this lifesaving
research and instead make money from our never-ending poor health. I just
recently stumbled upon a SAFE way to REMOVE mercury from my brain and nervous
system and have recovered from nearly EVERY horrible symptom of mercury toxicity
in a matter of a few weeks! I did NOT have any die-off or negative side effects
during my rapid recovery. My 10 year old daughter has been taking these drops at
the maximum dose as well and has made a huge turn around in her personality,
academics, and ability to learn and remember things. Both of us had similar
symptoms/problems: learning disabilities, short-term memory loss, poor
balance,poor word retrieval, double vision, poor depth perception, blurred
vision, extreme fatigue, gut issues, irritable bowel,depression,
fearfulness,headaches, frequent infections and illnesses, food allergies,
asthma, aches and pains,insomnia, skin rashes/ezcema. The biggest thing we both
are grateful for is the increased brain power and energy levels (mercury causes
depletion of ATP energy and oxygen carrying capacity of all cells including
cells in the muscles, blood, and brain.)
> >
> > Please feel free to contact me for more information. I can tell you how to
get this for your loved ones at the best price and how nuch to take for how
long.It is NOT a medicine, but an FDA approved dietary supplement that has GRAS
status. It does not cure diseases, but rather it is clinically proven to REMOVE
heavy metals from the body and brain.....so that your body is able to HEAL
ITSELF! You and your children do not need to be lifelong members of the
mercury-damaged club. Get the mercury out SAFELY like I just did and say good
riddance to lifelong special diets, expensive tests, and expensive
pharmaceuticals and nutritional supplements. God designed our bodies to be able
to heal themselves...if we can only do our best to keep toxins and heavy metals
OUT or to safely remove them if they do get in. The chelators that are touted as
the only methods to remove heavy metals from the body or brain are laden with
serious side effects and auto intoxication because they can't hold onto the
metals strong enough to allow them to be excreted completely. What I have found
DOES get them out with none of it getting loose and traveling back to your brain
to cause further damage. Also, curretnly functional med docs are saying that
'nearly 80% of the population is now gluten-sensitive even though they are
unaware of it being the cause of their health problems'. We need to again ask
WHY are so many people gluten sensitive? It is NOT normal to be "allergic or
sensitive" to grains and bread!!! What has changed to make this happen?
Fertilizers, pesticides, and FUNGICIDES that are used in the planting,
harvesting, storage and processing of our food grains all contain small (or
large) amounts of MERCURY and other heavy metals and chemicals!!! They
accumulate in our bodies, they kill our gut flora, they encourage Candida to
flourish, they preferentially attach to our fat which includes our myelin
sheaths on our nerve and brain cells and triggered what docs call "autoimmune"
diseases and neurological diseases. Docs give us all different "disease labels"
so we don't get together and realize that we all have the SAME PROBLEM--mercury
toxicity in varying degrees and in slightly different parts of our brains and
nervous systems. ALS, Autism, Multiple Sclerosis, Parkinsons, Alzheimers
disease....they are all the same thing! (Even cancer, heart disease, and
diabetes are inflammatory disease caused by toxins and metals) Doctors pretend
they "don't know what the cause is" yet they DO know how to CAUSE all these
disorders in HEALTHY LAB ANIMALS (in order to test their new drug hopefuls so
they can patent and market them for big bucks)!!! Medical researchers KNOW and
are trying to make their findings public and get doctors to use their research
findings to help cure people...BUT THEY ARE BEING THWARTED BY THE AMA,ADA,and
FDA!!!  Ever wondered why so many of us as well as our children are overweight?
Our bodies have a defense mechansim that works to sequester toxins and heavy
metals safely away into fat cells and labels them with a "DO NOT DISTURB" sign
on them....research leptin and mercury link to learn how come we are unable to
lose our fat. Contact me and I will answer your questions and help you get the
drops that got me well so fast. We need to help spread the word about how to
safely detox our  bodies and save our children as well. In the meantime...."JUST
SAY NO" to vaccines, fluoride, mercury fillings, non-organic and processed
foods,mercury-tinged high fructose corn syrup, excitoxins such as MSG and
Aspartame, and chemicals in our personal care and cleaning products.   Laurie RN
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

What probiotics are you using?

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "krottenbach22" <krottenbach22@...>
wrote:
>
> Hello group.
> We've done 20 rounds of chelation with low dose 5mg DMSA and 5 mg ALA. It took
me a year to start it because introducing supps was so hard. Son developed
screaming and aggression that never happened before, and no high dose of
antifungals worked against it. I stopped all supps several times and tryied to
restart them again some time later, but it only got worse. We now live in fear
of everyday terrible tantrums with selfaggression and screaming. I give medical
antifungals too often because GSE, OoO, Biotin, Biocidin, Candidase and Candex
don't work.
> Who had the same problem, and what did you do?
>
> I am very close to leave it all, to do IV, or to stop everything, I am in
horror and despair.
> Please help!
> Sandra
>

SHAME ON YOU FOR BEING SO SELFISH. Think of all the children you could
help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If I knew there was something out there as you describe I would share it with
EVERYONE in as second.
We have children here who need our help and we would give our last breath to
save them, don't USE that against us.
You say your a nurse, is it not an oath that you should HELP not harm, buy not
sharing that IS harmful.

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "Claus-Peter Kessler MD"
<Claus-Peter.KesslerMD@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Laurie,
>
> read my notes and wall on facebook, it might give you somemore answers
> to your already well informed knowledge abot mercury-sensitivity.
>
> Claus-Peter Kessler MD
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 09:32:32 +0100
> Subject: Re: [Autism-Mercury] New safe mercury detox alllows body to
> heal itself from autism, MS, ALS, Alzheim
> From: rrafidah@...
> To: Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com
>
> Hi Laurie,
>
>
>
> May I ask why do we need to contact you privately for info on these
> drops?
>
>
>
> You can openly share on it like you did with this explanation, can't
> you?
>
>
>
> Rafidah
>
>  
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: "weedmessmom" <weedmessmom@...>
>
> Sender: Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com
>
> Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 08:26:12
>
> To: <Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com>
>
> Reply-To: Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com
>
> Subject: [Autism-Mercury] New safe mercury detox alllows body to heal
> itself from autism, MS, ALS, Alzheim
>
>
>
> Hi This is going to be a long post, but worth reading.
>
>
>
> I am a nurse who has recently recovered from the depths of mercury
> toxicity hell (many exposures but main ones are from HEP B vaccine and
> mercury dental fillings plus IV antibiotics and spinal anesthetics
> during childbirth). I have experienced first hand ALL of the physical
> and neurological symptoms that autistic children suffer with (Multiple
> sclerosis also has all the same symptoms). Trust me when I say that all
> the money and hope you spend on supplements, special diets, and
> anti-candida protocols will not free your children from their illness
> and symptoms...because even these well intentioned protocols are only
> symptomatic treatments and are not getting at the CAUSE of their
> symptoms. Killing the Candida only makes you worse because these yeasts
> were gobbling up the mercury in order to save your brain and vital
> organs. Killing or starving them results in releasing that mercury as
> well as toxins they secrete as they die. Taking supplements barely keeps
> your head above water....it is not normal to need to "supplement"
> vitamins, minerals, hormones, probiotics, and digestive enzymes
> indefinitely....Ask yourself,"WHY am I (or my child) low in these
> things?".  You are low because the mercury that entered your body via
> vaccines, mercury-containing dental materials, and many other
> little-known insidious ways has been competing with, displacing, and
> sabotaging all of these things that your body was designed to produce or
> utilize to stay healthy. Until you REMOVE (safely) this dangerous
> saboteur you will forever need to take supplements of every kind and
> will never really get well. Brilliant researchers know the very
> mechanisms by which mercury (and other toxins) wreak havoc upon our
> brain, organs, systems, and functions and how each disease or illness is
> produced. Too bad our doctors remain ignorant of this lifesaving
> research and instead make money from our never-ending poor health. I
> just recently stumbled upon a SAFE way to REMOVE mercury from my brain
> and nervous system and have recovered from nearly EVERY horrible symptom
> of mercury toxicity in a matter of a few weeks! I did NOT have any
> die-off or negative side effects during my rapid recovery. My 10 year
> old daughter has been taking these drops at the maximum dose as well and
> has made a huge turn around in her personality, academics, and ability
> to learn and remember things. Both of us had similar symptoms/problems:
> learning disabilities, short-term memory loss, poor balance,poor word
> retrieval, double vision, poor depth perception, blurred vision, extreme
> fatigue, gut issues, irritable bowel,depression, fearfulness,headaches,
> frequent infections and illnesses, food allergies, asthma, aches and
> pains,insomnia, skin rashes/ezcema. The biggest thing we both are
> grateful for is the increased brain power and energy levels (mercury
> causes depletion of ATP energy and oxygen carrying capacity of all cells
> including cells in the muscles, blood, and brain.)
>
>
>
> Please feel free to contact me for more information. I can tell you how
> to get this for your loved ones at the best price and how nuch to take
> for how long.It is NOT a medicine, but an FDA approved dietary
> supplement that has GRAS status. It does not cure diseases, but rather
> it is clinically proven to REMOVE heavy metals from the body and
> brain.....so that your body is able to HEAL ITSELF! You and your
> children do not need to be lifelong members of the mercury-damaged club.
> Get the mercury out SAFELY like I just did and say good riddance to
> lifelong special diets, expensive tests, and expensive pharmaceuticals
> and nutritional supplements. God designed our bodies to be able to heal
> themselves...if we can only do our best to keep toxins and heavy metals
> OUT or to safely remove them if they do get in. The chelators that are
> touted as the only methods to remove heavy metals from the body or brain
> are laden with serious side effects and auto intoxication because they
> can't hold onto the metals strong enough to allow them to be excreted
> completely. What I have found DOES get them out with none of it getting
> loose and traveling back to your brain to cause further damage. Also,
> curretnly functional med docs are saying that 'nearly 80% of the
> population is now gluten-sensitive even though they are unaware of it
> being the cause of their health problems'. We need to again ask WHY are
> so many people gluten sensitive? It is NOT normal to be "allergic or
> sensitive" to grains and bread!!! What has changed to make this happen?
> Fertilizers, pesticides, and FUNGICIDES that are used in the planting,
> harvesting, storage and processing of our food grains all contain small
> (or large) amounts of MERCURY and other heavy metals and chemicals!!!
> They accumulate in our bodies, they kill our gut flora, they encourage
> Candida to flourish, they preferentially attach to our fat which
> includes our myelin sheaths on our nerve and brain cells and triggered
> what docs call "autoimmune" diseases and neurological diseases. Docs
> give us all different "disease labels" so we don't get together and
> realize that we all have the SAME PROBLEM--mercury toxicity in varying
> degrees and in slightly different parts of our brains and nervous
> systems. ALS, Autism, Multiple Sclerosis, Parkinsons, Alzheimers
> disease....they are all the same thing! (Even cancer, heart disease, and
> diabetes are inflammatory disease caused by toxins and metals) Doctors
> pretend they "don't know what the cause is" yet they DO know how to
> CAUSE all these disorders in HEALTHY LAB ANIMALS (in order to test their
> new drug hopefuls so they can patent and market them for big bucks)!!!
> Medical researchers KNOW and are trying to make their findings public
> and get doctors to use their research findings to help cure people...BUT
> THEY ARE BEING THWARTED BY THE AMA,ADA,and FDA!!!  Ever wondered why so
> many of us as well as our children are overweight? Our bodies have a
> defense mechansim that works to sequester toxins and heavy metals safely
> away into fat cells and labels them with a "DO NOT DISTURB" sign on
> them....research leptin and mercury link to learn how come we are unable
> to lose our fat. Contact me and I will answer your questions and help
> you get the drops that got me well so fast. We need to help spread the
> word about how to safely detox our  bodies and save our children as
> well. In the meantime...."JUST SAY NO" to vaccines, fluoride, mercury
> fillings, non-organic and processed foods,mercury-tinged high fructose
> corn syrup, excitoxins such as MSG and Aspartame, and chemicals in our
> personal care and cleaning products.   Laurie RN    
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "krottenbach22" <krottenbach22@...>
wrote:
> We've done 20 rounds of chelation with low dose 5mg DMSA and 5 mg ALA. It took
me a year to start it because introducing supps was so hard. Son developed
screaming and aggression that never happened before, and no high dose of
antifungals worked against it. I stopped all supps several times and tryied to
restart them again some time later, but it only got worse. We now live in fear
of everyday terrible tantrums with selfaggression and screaming. I give medical
antifungals too often because GSE, OoO, Biotin, Biocidin, Candidase and Candex
don't work.
> Who had the same problem, and what did you do?


My son was similar, altho his symptoms were [thankfully] the opposite of your
child's.  Whenever I tried to give supplements, my son became spacy and "not
here".  The only supplement he tolerated at one point was HNI enzymes, so I
started ALA when he was only taking the enzymes.  I was able to add in a few
supplements at about round 10, but the rest had to wait until about round 50
when he started tolerating them.

Dana

Weve been started 4th round last friday afternoon, my son's yellowish stool
(today and yesterday) was coated with a fresh blood.  Isthis normal when
chelating a kid? Im  really confused and worried..

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "jitimark08@..." <jitimark08@...> wrote:
> 1. VIRUS PANEL (MDL LAB) and he is positive for HHV-6


Give lysine.


>     Then he was treated with Zythromax for 10 days by his DAN doctor.


OLE worked better than Zithromax at my house.


> 14. Are the thyroid problems, Pandas, virus problems, GUTS issues, Yeast and
bacteria,
>        Respiratory problems (pneumonia) - will CORRECT by itself after mercury
out of
>        brain??


For my son, no.  He required supplements to correct his issues.  I corrected
hypothyroid with selenium, iodine, and tyrosine.  OLE can help with PANDAS.  I
eliminated viruses with high doses of vitamin A, vitamin C, vitamin D, and
lysine.  Gut was healed with digestive enzymes, chelation, B vitamins, and a few
other things.  Yeast was eliminated with biotin, GSE, chelation, anti-virals,
and a few other things.


> Please let me know what you think i should do, I need your suggestion/input to
avoid mistakes. I would like to keep going with AC protocol (I do have doubt
that it will work just because he is diagnosed with ASD/MR not mild case - he
had only one word at the age of 3). I feel like I am a bad mother but I didnt
know anything about autism.


My son's dx is "classic Kanner's autism, severe, low functioning".  He also has
MR dx.  At age 3, my son only laughed and cried, no language at all.  He said
his first word at age 6, after 3 years of biomedical.  Today he is 15, no longer
autistic, still developmentally delayed because of all the damage.  He is doing
1st grade schoolwork.  He talks, he reads, he plays with his siblings and
neighborhood children, prefers to be with friends and social environment rather
than playing by himself.

Here is my most-recent site page [includes photos], about a year old but can
give you an idea of my son and his siblings.  #1 and #4 are entirely recovered,
#2 and #3 still have delays [#3 is now only 2 years behind his chron age, #2 is
further back].

http://www.danasview.net/pic_Sept2010.htm

Keep going, you will find what your child needs.

Dana

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, Linda Blevins <lbiz66@...> wrote:
> Dana,
> Which OLE did you use with such great sucess?


Natural Factors brand.

Dana

Jiti -
Just to add my two cents, I've found most supplements contain gluten.  Even if
products are labeled gluten free, they can contain trace amounts (especially
vitamins as they- even powders, are bound with glutinous material). Your son's
reactions sound to me to be reactions (either allergic reactions or autoimmune
reactions typically seen in those with heavy metal toxicity) - to gluten and/or
casein (dairy).
Even if my son drinks "Naked" juices or has Barlean's flax oil, he completely
flips out, screaming constantly.  (Same with Rice Dream rice milk which is made
with barley, but they don't tell you that)  We can't take him anywhere.  He is
just beside himself.  it's because of the "vitamins" in the Naked juices and
also the fact the Barlean's flax oil is simply cross-contaminated (things with
gluten are made on the same facilities as the flax oil). 
I only use ASD (by Lee Silsby) multivitamins - the gluten and casein free
kind.  I'm extremely cautious about every single supp. and food he eats.  (and
try them only one at a time for three days each)  Otherwise he pays the
price.  (and so do we.)
 
I think this whole think gets so complicated, because aside from trying to heal
them, they are having these awful reactions to just 'seemingly normal' food. 
The body first needs to be 'clean' before it's healed.  It simply won't get a
chance to heal itself if we're putting things they're reacting to in their
bodies.  Prime example is: my son was highly highly allergic to sunflowers and
sesame seeds.  He kept having severe allergic reactions (cookies, crackers,
chips, oil, tons of stuff have sunflower/safflower oil.)  He's going to keep
having reactions if, in fact, he is sensitive to gluten.  (Mercury and other
heavy metals - titanium, lead, and others create a severe reaction when combined
with gluten and casein, too.  My son is affected, as am I, as well - until I
got the dental- placed metal out of my mouth)  I pretty much use only Now Foods
supplements, with a few exceptiosn (Nordic Naturals has some good products.) 
You need to call each
  company and make absolutely sure there is no possibility of
cross-contamination.  This stuff works (obviously) on a molecular level.  If
companies sound confused, they are.  Do not trust a company unless you can tell
they are confident and know exactly what you're talking about when you say
"cross-contamination".  If they seem to look at you like you have two heads,
keep asking questions and I wouldn't even bother purchasing the product.  This
is coming from someone who's made that mistake many times and has paid for it.
 
Once you get his diet straight, then you will be able to tell what supp's and
medications are working for him and which are giving him adverse effects. 
Personally, I'm a fan of doing as natural a remedy, as possible.  I will admit,
I have not tried medication yet.  But my son is doing great.  He has trouble
with speech, but it is improving.  I don't like meds.  I just figure, it's
something else they're little, compromised, chewed up immune system needs to
detoxify, in addition to metals and any other toxins (including food toxins). 
We're doing homeopathy next and I'm thinking about doing ALA rounds soon.  This
was a child who screamed constantly.  Now he's happy, goes to school,  (he's 3
1/2), is learning words, although has trouble expressing them sometimes.  We
also do fresh veggie and fruit juicing.  This helps, too.  Good stuff in, bad
stuff or stuff they need to detox - out.  The body is trying to heal itself,
and if we help enable
  that, that's the beginning of good results, in my experience. 
Love and God bless
Morgan

From: "jitimark08@..." <jitimark08@...>
To: Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2011 12:34 AM
Subject: [Autism-Mercury] IV EDTA/DMPS - Questions for Andy Cutler and Dana


 
Dear Andy,

Here are my situation as promised to put in this forum.

I have done many things for my 5 year old son (ASD) in the past 2 years
including :

1. Homeopathy
2. DAN doctor (IV EDTA and DMPS or EDTA only - for about 57 times).
3.HBOT (hard chamber)
4. Diet intervention

His aluminum level was very high and his pediatrician didnt do anything. That
was the main reason I went to DAN dr to remove the aluminum, cadmium, antimony
and barium (i realized the gov changed the mercury to aluminum in immunization
in 2006).

Here is my son condition:
1. speech delayed (expressive and receptive)
2. HYPERACTIVE (wont sit still and wont do what asked, give tantrums instead) -
ADHD symptoms - I do give him yeast meds. many times i feel they dont work.

He was hospitalized for pneumonia few times. I just had following tests :

1. VIRUS PANEL (MDL LAB) and he is positive for HHV-6 and Pneumoniae Mycoplasma.
Then he was treated with Zythromax for 10 days by his DAN doctor.

2. IgE - with out of range level of 983 - the DAN dr hasn't addressed this
issue.

3. Nagalase test with 1.7 result (range 0.32 - 0.95) - I dont understand this at
all

4. OAT and hair (I'd love to get your input on the OAT).

I really hope all of these can be corrected with AC protocol.

I want to know if i am doing your protocol correctly due to his past. He is
making improvement with IV but I believe he is still in the state where he will
be institutionalized.

I have done 5 rounds so far with the following :

1. ALA only 12.5 mg - super hyper - non compliance
2. ALA only 12.5 mg - hyper and non compliance
3. ALA only 25 mg - hyper and non compliance
4. ALA only 25 mg - hyper and non compliance
5 ALA 25 mg + DMSA 12.5 mg (i was skeptical using DMSA but wanted to see) - the
hyperactivity is less than the last four rounds actually - a little bit better
with the therapist today (first day after round).

Now here are my tons of questions:

1. Did I do anything wrong with the rounds? Please let me know if I did and what
should I do next?

2. Are the chelators (DMPS and EDTA) still in his body after so many rounds of
IV? How long they stay in his body?

3. Does he still need DMPS or DMSA for AC Protocol? He is good to go with just
ALA? or you recommend ALA + DMSA or ALA + DMPS

4. Beside cost, do you have any objection in him getting IV EDTA/DMPS and doing
round with ALA after IV? or do I have to continue DMPS caps every 8 hours after
the IV? what if I just stick with ALA only? am I experimenting by doing this?

5.He sometime getting IV vitamins and mineral (Vit. C, zinc,Magnesium,
Leucovorin, NAC, PC, Gluthatione, Folic Acid) - should I stop the gluthatione
and NAC and ok on the rest or? I do this when I can see his pneumonia symptoms
are coming back.

6. The last Urine test, his antimony and barium is within reference but
aluminum, cadmium, nickel, uranium, nickel, lead, mercury and gadolinium are out
of reference, Can i continue IV EDTA? Can I do ALA round when doing EDTA IV?

7. How often can I do EDTA to avoid problem with his brain?

8. Was the multiple DMPS/EDTA IV messed up his brain? Did i damage his brain?? I
saw improvement with his speech over the past 2 years IV but he is still
autistic with major behavior issues.

9. Are the heavy metals (except aluminum??) accumulating in his brain now (after
long periods of IV and the metals in his urine has gone down)? can these metals
still able to be removed with ALA (with his history of IV)?

10. Is it too late for my son to try AC protocol with his past situation?

11. When taking ALA only, without Chelators - My understanding ALA capable to
bind and
bring the metals to kidney. BUT can ALA do the same to Aluminum?

12. if the mercury goes back to the brain for some reason - is it fixable?

13. What if it is not mercury that caused the problem with his behavior and
delays?

14. Are the thyroid problems, Pandas, virus problems, GUTS issues, Yeast and
bacteria,
Respiratory problems (pneumonia) - will CORRECT by itself after mercury out of
brain??

15 Can someone doing ALA+DMSA with titanium in their body? how dangerous is
titanium?

16. Any other test you can recommend other than CBC/RBC which we do every 4
month. Our DAN dr wants us to do thyroid panel, MITO, ASO/Dnase, MTHFR,
Micronutrients etc. I've been holding off on these testings to be honest with
you.

Please let me know what you think i should do, I need your suggestion/input to
avoid mistakes. I would like to keep going with AC protocol (I do have doubt
that it will work just because he is diagnosed with ASD/MR not mild case - he
had only one word at the age of 3). I feel like I am a bad mother but I didnt
know anything about autism.

I appreciate you helping all of us here and patiently taught us with your
knowledge in these toxic chemicals, explaining things to us day and night, and I
dont see you make any judgement.

I am just a mom who is trying to find cure for my son, so he can have normal
life (not in the mental hospital).

Thank you very much!!!

Jiti




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "jitimark08@..." <jitimark08@...> wrote:
>
> .... I have done 5 rounds so far with the following :
>
> 1. ALA only 12.5 mg - super hyper - non compliance
> 2. ALA only 12.5 mg - hyper and non compliance
> 3. ALA only 25 mg - hyper and non compliance
> 4. ALA only 25 mg - hyper and non compliance
> 5 ALA 25 mg + DMSA 12.5 mg (i was skeptical using DMSA but wanted to see) -
the hyperactivity is less than the last four rounds actually - a little bit
better with the therapist today (first day after round).

== Many adults in the FDC group don't tolerate more than 12 mg in the beginning.
Usually it is given according to weight of the person.  The really sick adults
more often start with 6mg.  A number of us use a combination of ALA +
DMSAorDMPS.  I find that the combo reduces sfx quite a lot.  I don't tolerate
ALA very well.  I don't know if this is due to my levels of lead and cadmium. 
It seems that many of the kids do well on ALA alone.

== Remember some people do better when they take chelators more frequently.  I
feel best when I'm taking ALA every 2-2.5 hrs (somewhat less at night is ok).  I
have reactive hypoglycemia symptoms and find that I need to snack every 1.5 hrs
and take my Adderall for ADD every 2.5 hrs in order to maintain a smooth effect.
I think Cutler addresses this somewhat in the chromium section of his hair test
book.


> Now here are my tons of questions:
>
> 1. Did I do anything wrong with the rounds? Please let me know if I did and
what should I do next?
>
> 2. Are the chelators (DMPS and EDTA)  still in his body after so many rounds
of IV? How long they stay in his body?

==  Probably less than a day.  half-life of DMPS is roughly 8 hrs.


> 3. Does he still need DMPS or DMSA for AC Protocol? He is good to go with just
ALA? or you recommend ALA + DMSA or ALA + DMPS

== DMSA for lead maybe some others but this usually can be done after months of
just focusing on Hg removal and after getting yeast under control.

> 4. Beside cost, do you have any objection in him getting IV EDTA/DMPS and
doing round with ALA after IV? or do I have to continue DMPS caps every 8 hours
after the IV? what if I just stick with ALA only? am I experimenting by doing
this?

== Many here and in the adult groups use ALA only when DMSA is not tolerated and
when they cannot get a script for DMPS.  I think DMPS is not as frequently used
for kids.  However the adults almost invariably do well on DMPS.  It seems to be
the best tolerated chelator for the early months of chelation and for the very
sickly and sensitive adults.


> 5.He sometime getting IV vitamins and mineral (Vit. C, zinc,Magnesium,
Leucovorin, NAC, PC, Gluthatione, Folic Acid) - should I stop the gluthatione
and NAC and ok on the rest or? I do this when I can see his pneumonia symptoms
are coming back.

== There are concerns about the use of thiols, yet we need adequate amounts of
cysteine. No time to explain this complex issue. There is more on this--cf Files
Links Moria's site.

== Many of us get significant symptom reduction from the right combination of
supplements.  This is somewhat unique based on hair test results, symptoms,
other tests, etc.  Don't forget adrenal support--typically adrenal cortex
extract. I don't know if forskolin and licorice are used for kids.  C, E, Se,
Zn, Mg are among the very commonly used supplements but others are used too. 
Check Files for a list. I have more for you on ADD supplements if you want it. 
That is a big issue for me and I'm making slow but nice progress.


> 6. The last Urine test, his antimony and barium is within reference but 
aluminum, cadmium, nickel, uranium, nickel, lead, mercury and gadolinium are out
of reference, Can i continue IV EDTA? Can I do ALA round when doing EDTA IV?

== Cutler strongly discourages use of EDTA before thoroughly chelating out the
Hg!  He likes DMSA for Cd--the highest toxin on my hair test.  My symptoms match
Cutler's description of Cd very well.  I'm getting better on DMSA + ALA.  I'll
probably use EDTA *after* a few years of AC protocol.

>
> 7. How often can I do EDTA to avoid problem with his brain?
>
> 8. Was the multiple DMPS/EDTA IV messed up his brain? Did i damage his brain??
I saw improvement with his speech over the past 2 years IV but he is still
autistic with major behavior issues.
>
> 9. Are the heavy metals (except aluminum??) accumulating in his brain now
(after long periods of IV and the metals in his urine has gone down)? can these
metals still able to be removed with ALA (with his history of IV)?

== You could check out the Progress reports folders in Frequent Dose Chelation
Group for stories about improvements.  ArcticCat used many dangerous protocols
before switching to AC and is getting better.  I personally know some one who
was nearly bed ridden after doing other things but is back to work in his white
collar job after 5 yrs of AC protocol--He's around 50 yr old.

> 10. Is it too late for my son to try AC protocol with his past situation?

== No! The younger onees seem to progress much more quickly than middle aged
folks!
http://www.healing-arts.org/children/holmes.htm#results


> 11. When taking ALA only, without Chelators - My understanding ALA capable to
bind and
>        bring the metals to kidney. BUT can ALA do the same to Aluminum?

== Cutler thinks Al usually comes out on its own as Hg levels come down. 
Remember Hg fouls up the body's ability to move many elements, both toxic and
essential ones (calcium, chromium, etc)

== ALA gets converted to DHLA which is a dithiol chelator of Hg As maybe others.
http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/othernuts/la/lastructure.html

>
> 12. if the mercury goes back to the brain for some reason - is it fixable?

== There are certain parts of the body that hold onto Hg rather tightly.  What
we see is that over time people do get better. It seems that the longer its been
in the body the longer it will take to get it out.  I'd use the word
"improvable" rather than "fixable".  I don't want you to think it is a
quick-fix.  Youth seems to be a big advantage!


> 13. What if it is not mercury that caused the problem with his behavior and
delays?

== Then chelation for Hg won't help.  Cutler says roughly 75% of the kids
improve.  Something else is going on with the others.  However in your case it
is hard to imagine that Hg is not involved to some extent.  You describe a text
book case.  From my experience personally and with the adults, Hg + Cd often
means catecholamine symptoms such as ADD.  You've already gotten some gains from
the chelation you've done.

>
> 14. Are the thyroid problems, Pandas, virus problems, GUTS issues, Yeast and
bacteria,
>        Respiratory problems (pneumonia) - will CORRECT by itself after mercury
out of
>        brain??

== Hg affects adrenals, immune system, pituitary hormones that control thyroid,
adrenals, etc.  We have lots of positive stories of improvement over time.  Even
getting the right supplements helps in the beginning.  There is so much
information available here and in Cutler's books.  I can't explain it in a post!

>
> 15 Can someone doing ALA+DMSA with titanium in their body? how dangerous is
titanium?

== Yes, I have a rod in my leg after it broke without contact while just playing
badminton with little nieces. It snapped like a piece of chalk!  It is another
reason to chelate if he has Cd.


> 16. Any other test you can recommend other than CBC/RBC which we do every 4
month. Our DAN dr wants us to do thyroid panel, MITO, ASO/Dnase,  MTHFR,
Micronutrients etc. I've been holding off on these testings to be honest with
you.

== I think you'd be wise to do thyroid but Hg messes with TSH.  He likes Free T3
T4--cf his Amalgam Illness for sections on Hg & med tests.  Others are probably
somewhat dependent on your budget but I'm not familiar with some of those. 
Methylation problems seem to be fairly common.
== We usually start with a hair test but that might not be absoutely necessary
in your case.  500+ are posted at the site below with history information and
there are more in our Files.
http://livingnetwork.co.za/chelationnetwork/hairtest/hairtest3/

>
> Please let me know what you think i should do, I need your suggestion/input to
avoid mistakes.

== You won't be human if you don't make a few along the way.  So many are
improving despite being human.  Cutler lists quite a few mistakes he made in the
beginning when he was learning to chelate himself.  He wrote Amalgam Illness
book to help others to avoid the mistakes.


>  ...I would like to keep going with AC protocol (I do have doubt that it will
work just because he is diagnosed with ASD/MR not mild case - he had only one
word at the age of 3). I feel like I am a bad mother but I didnt know anything
about autism.

== You are not alone in that feeling but you sound like you are trying hard to
help him.  I think you'll identify with the story of our member, Haven.
  http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/message/292717

== Cutler & Dr Pompa tell their stories about Hg related illnesses here. 
http://www.healthcentersofthefuture.com/DrCutler/

>
> I appreciate you helping all of us here and patiently taught us with your
knowledge in these toxic chemicals, explaining things to us day and night,  and
I dont see you make any judgement.
>
> I am just a mom who is trying to find cure for my son, so he can have normal
life (not in the mental hospital).

== Haven wrote the following at the end of her post (link above).
".... I cannot beat myself up for waiting so long, though I wish we hadn't, but
I am so glad we came back here and got back on the right track.... The day my
son gets into an institution (of higher learning), there are a lot of people we
will say a word or two to ....
Be very wary of anyone who ever tells you what your child will never do. My son
was potty trained completely at the age of five...
If I had listened to those mainstream doctors and just took their pompous
predictions as gospel truth and done nothing....my son would still be non-verbal
and pooping on the floor....
Never let anyone take hope away from you....     Haven"

== Joe, hair test #354, 1.5 yrs AC protocol and gradually improving.
http://livingnetwork.co.za/chelationnetwork/hairtest/hairtest22/

>
> Thank you very much!!!
>
> Jiti
>

I am very sad to read this. I fear for this child's future.

Comments to your question are below in BOLD. I'm not yelling at you, just used
bold font so you could pick the answers out of the post.
please take my answers seriously so that you can begin to get your son well.

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "jitimark08@..." <jitimark08@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Andy,
>
> Here are my situation as promised to put in this forum.
>
>
> I have done many things for my 5 year old son (ASD) in the past 2 years
including :
>
> 1. Homeopathy
> 2. DAN doctor (IV EDTA and DMPS or EDTA only - for about 57 times).

**********************OH God...that's bad.


> 3.HBOT (hard chamber)
****************STOP DOING THIS. IT CAN MAKE SOME KIDS WORSE.

> 4. Diet intervention
***********WHAT KIND? WAS HE TESTED FOR FOOD ALLERGIES?
>
> His aluminum level was very high and his pediatrician didnt do anything.

**********************THAT WAS ACTUALLY SAFER THAN WHAT YOUR DAN DOCTOR DID.

  That was the main reason I went to DAN dr to remove the aluminum, cadmium,
antimony and barium (i realized the gov changed the mercury to aluminum in
immunization in 2006).

********************* AND HE/SHE IS MAKING SURE TO DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE NOT TO
RECOVER YOUR CHILD. OUR KIDS ARE NOT CARDIAC PATIENTS, BUT YET THEY WANT TO USE
EDTA ON THEM LIKE CARDIAC PATIENTS. THERE SEEMS TO BE A HUGE LACK OF KNOWLEDGE
AMONG SOME DOCTORS ABOUT CHELATION AND HOW TO DO IT PROPERLY

>
> Here is my son condition:
> 1. speech delayed (expressive and receptive)
> 2. HYPERACTIVE (wont sit still and wont do what asked, give tantrums instead)
- ADHD symptoms - I do give him yeast meds. many times i feel they dont work.

***************************NO VITAMINS, NO DIETARY MODIFICATIONS? THERE IS SO
MUCH MORE THAN CAN BE DONE TO HELP HIM THAN SOME YEAST MEDS AND IV THAT ARE
PROBABLY MAKING HIM WORSE.
>
> He was hospitalized for pneumonia few times. I just had  following tests :
>
> 1. VIRUS PANEL (MDL LAB) and he is positive for HHV-6 and Pneumoniae
Mycoplasma. Then he was treated with Zythromax for 10 days by his DAN doctor.

*************************VERY TYPICAL FOR OUR KIDS. HE CAN TAKE OTC ANTIVIRALS
LIKE LYSINE AFTER A YEAR OF SAFE LOW DOSE ORAL CHELATION. POSSIBLY USING
CULTURELLE ALSO.


> I really hope all of these can be corrected with AC protocol.

**********************YES IF YOU STICK TO AC PROTOCOL.
>
> I want to know if i am doing your protocol correctly due to his past. He is
making improvement with IV but I believe he is still in the state where he will
be institutionalized.

*****************NO YOUR ARE NOT DOING THE PROTOCOL CORRECTLY. IV CHELATION IS
NOT PART OF AC PROTOCOL.

>
> I have done 5 rounds so far with the following :
>
> 1. ALA only 12.5 mg - super hyper - non compliance
> 2. ALA only 12.5 mg - hyper and non compliance
> 3. ALA only 25 mg - hyper and non compliance
> 4. ALA only 25 mg - hyper and non compliance
> 5 ALA 25 mg + DMSA 12.5 mg (i was skeptical using DMSA but wanted to see) -
the hyperactivity is less than the last four rounds actually - a little bit
better with the therapist today (first day after round).

***********I SEE A PROBLEM ALREADY. YOU ARE RAISING HIS DOSE TOO SOON. MOST KIDS
GET HYPER IF THEY HAVE ADRENAL ISSUES, YEAST PROBLEMS OR THE DOSE IS TOO HIGH.
YOU SHOULD NOT DOUBLE THE DOSES LIKE THAT. MORE ISN'T GOING TO GET IT DONE ANY
FASTER. STICK WITH 12.5MG FOR AT LEAST 5 ROUNDS BEFORE YOU RAISE. AND ONLY RAISE
IF YOU DON'T SEE ANY GOOD OR BAD SYMPTOMS. THEN ONLY RAISE BY 5MG.
>
> Now here are my tons of questions:
>
> 1. Did I do anything wrong with the rounds? Please let me know if I did and
what should I do next?

**** YES, SEE ABOVE. ALSO BE SURE TO GIVE ALA EVERY 3 HOURS DURING THE DAY. 3
1/2 AT NIGHT IF YOU DON'T USE DMSA WITH IT. CONSIDER USING DMSA WITH IT AND
ADDING A NATURAL ANTIFUNGAL. REDUCE HIS DOSE BACK TO 12MG.
>
> 2. Are the chelators (DMPS and EDTA)  still in his body after so many rounds
of IV? How long they stay in his body?

*********NO, THEY ARE ONLY IN THE BODY FOR THE TIME THEY LAST, WHICH IS
GENERALLY 8 HOURS FOR DMPS. LESS I BELEIVE FOR EDTA.

>
> 3. Does he still need DMPS or DMSA for AC Protocol? He is good to go with just
ALA? or you recommend ALA + DMSA or ALA + DMPS

*********BASED ON YOUR DESCRIPTION THAT HIS ROUND WENT BETTER WITH DMSA, I'D USE
THAT WITH ALA. THIS WILL REMOVE THOSE OTHER METALS.

>
> 4. Beside cost, do you have any objection in him getting IV EDTA/DMPS and
doing round with ALA after IV? or do I have to continue DMPS caps every 8 hours
after the IV? what if I just stick with ALA only? am I experimenting by doing
this?

*****************YES, HE WOULD OBJECT. IV CHELATION IS A NO, NO, NOT EVER FOR
OUR KIDS. IT CAUSES REDISTRIBUTION OF MERCURY TO THE BRAIN BY USING HIGH DOSES
INFREQUENTLY.  WWW.DMPS.BACKFIRE.COM IS FULL OF STORIES OF PEOPLE WHO GOT SICK
DOING THAT. THERE IS NO NEED TO DO IV CHELATION FOR METAL POISONING. YOU ARE
EXPERIMENTING IF YOU DO.


5.He sometime getting IV vitamins and mineral (Vit. C, zinc,Magnesium,
Leucovorin, NAC, PC, Gluthatione, Folic Acid) - should I stop the gluthatione
and NAC and ok on the rest or? I do this when I can see his pneumonia symptoms
are coming back.

***********NO GLUTATHIONE, NOT EVER IN AN IV. I DO NO SEE ANY NEED FOR A CHILD
TO GET IV VITAMINS AT ALL. IF YOU GET HIM ON PROPER ADRENAL/IMMUNE SUPPORT
SUPPLEMENT AND STOP UNSAFE CHELATION HE PROBABLY WON'T GET PNEUMONIA ANYMORE.
>
> 6. The last Urine test, his antimony and barium is within reference but 
aluminum, cadmium, nickel, uranium, nickel, lead, mercury and gadolinium are out
of reference, Can i continue IV EDTA? Can I do ALA round when doing EDTA IV?

************NO, NO AND NO. ABSOLUTELY NO. YOU ARE TRYING TO CREATE YOUR OWN
PROTOCOL. CAN'T DO THAT WITHOUT RISKING MAKING YOUR SON WORSE.
>
> 7. How often can I do EDTA to avoid problem with his brain?

**************YOU DON'T DO IT AT ALL. YOU WILL IF NOT ALREADY HAVE CREATED
PROBLEMS WITH THE BRAIN
>
> 8. Was the multiple DMPS/EDTA IV messed up his brain? Did i damage his brain??
I saw improvement with his speech over the past 2 years IV but he is still
autistic with major behavior issues.

**************THERE REALLY IS NOT WAY TO KNOW FOR SURE, OTHER THAN TO STOP ANY
FURTHER IV CHELATION AND START DOING LOW DOSE ORAL REGULARLY (AT A LOWER DOSE).
SEE IF HE BEGINS TO IMPROVE.
>
> 9. Are the heavy metals (except aluminum??) accumulating in his brain now
(after long periods of IV and the metals in his urine has gone down)? can these
metals still able to be removed with ALA (with his history of IV)?

********************WELL CONSIDERING THE METHOD USED TO REMOVE THEM, I'M SURE
SOME HAVE MOVED TO HIS BRAIN. ALA CAN REMOVE THEM, YES.

> 10. Is it too late for my son to try AC protocol with his past situation?

**************IT'S NEVER TOO LATE. YOU CAN EXPECT TO SEE SLOWER PROGRESS BECAUSE
OF HIS PAST HISTORY WITH IV'S BUT I WOULD NOT GIVE UP ON HIM. I'D DO A ROUND OF
DMSA/ALA EVERY WEEK AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN THE NEXT 3 MONTHS. AND I'D LEARN HOW
TO USE OVER THE COUNTER ANTIFUNGALS, ANTIVIRALS, IMMUNE SUPPORT ETC TO DO THE
BEST I COULD TO HELP MY SON IMPROVE.
>
> 11. When taking ALA only, without Chelators - My understanding ALA capable to
bind  AND Bring the metals to kidney. BUT can ALA do the same to Aluminum?

******************ALA IS A CHELATOR. CHELATE AND THE ALUMINUM WILL GO AWAY. IT
DID ON MY KID. WE JUST DID DMSA/ALA. SO NOTHING SPECIAL IS NEEDED BECAUSE OF THE
PRESENCE OF ANY ONE METAL.
>
> 12. if the mercury goes back to the brain for some reason - is it fixable?

***************I THINK YOU'RE VERY WORRIED THAT THE UNSAFE CHELATION PUT MERCURY
INTO THE BRAIN. YES, ALA WILL REMOVE IT. BUT YOU HAVE TO USE IT ON THE RIGHT
DOSING/TIMING PROTOCOL.
>
> 13. What if it is not mercury that caused the problem with his behavior and
delays?

***************OH IT VERY LIKELY IS. SOME 3/4 OF AUTISM CASES ARE FROM METALS.
THE ESTIMATE IS PROBABLY HIGHER THAN 3/4. YOU WOULD NOT HAVE SEE ANY
IMPROVEMENTS EVEN WITH THE UNSAFE CHELATION IF METALS WEREN'T HIS PROBLEM.
>
> 14. Are the thyroid problems, Pandas, virus problems, GUTS issues, Yeast and
bacteria, Respiratory problems (pneumonia) - will CORRECT by itself after
mercury out of brain??

**************WELL SORT OF. YOU HAVE TO WORK AT THIS BY PROVIDING SUPPLOEMENTS
IN THE INTERIM TO HELP HIS BODY FUNCTION BETTER AND HEAL. IT'S NOT LIKE MAGIC
WHERE YOU CHELATE FOR A YEAR AND ONE DAY ITS ALL FIXED. HE MAY NEED THYROID
MEDICATION, NATURAL ANTIVIRALS, ANTIFUNGALS, IMMUNE SUPPORT, ADRENAL SUPPORT,
AND VITAMINS. IT'S A COLLECTION OF NATURAL THINGS TO HELP HIS BODY WHILE YOU
REMOVE MERCURY. BUT THESE THINGS CAN MAKE A HUGE IMPACT IN HOW WELL HE
FUNCTIONS.
>
> 15 Can someone doing ALA+DMSA with titanium in their body? how dangerous is
titanium?

**********OF COURSE THEY CAN. IT'S NOT AS DANGERSOUS AS MERCURY. IT COMES DOWN
WITH CHELATION TOO. TRY NOT TO GET HUNG UP ON EACH INDIVIDUAL METAL.
>
> 16. Any other test you can recommend other than CBC/RBC which we do every 4
month. Our DAN dr wants us to do thyroid panel, MITO, ASO/Dnase,  MTHFR,
Micronutrients etc. I've been holding off on these testings to be honest with
you.

*******************FIRE THE DAN.....GO SEE JULIE ANDERSON IN SEATTLE IF YOU
DON'T FEEL YOU CAN MANAGE THIS THERAPY WITHOUT THE ASSISTANCE OF SOMEONE. THE
THYROID PANEL SHOULD INCLUDE TSH, FREE T3, FREE T4 AND THYROID ANTIBODIES. MOST
DOCTORS WHO RUN THIS DON'T KNOW HOW TO INTERPRET IT ANYWAY. BUT IT SHOULD BE
TESTED. THE REST ARE A WASTE OF MONEY IN MY OPINION. GET COPIES OF ALL TESTS HE
HAS DONE SO YOU CAN HAVE SOMEONE ON THE FORUMS WHO SPECIALIZED IN THOSE TEST
LOOK AT THEM.
>
> Please let me know what you think i should do, I need your suggestion/input to
avoid mistakes. I would like to keep going with AC protocol (I do have doubt
that it will work just because he is diagnosed with ASD/MR not mild case - he
had only one word at the age of 3). I feel like I am a bad mother but I didnt
know anything about autism.
*******************TO AVOID MISTAKES YOU NEED TO SPEND MORE TIME LEARNING ABOUT
AC PROTOCOL AND IT'S SUPPORTIVE THERAPIES. BUY ANDY'S BOOKS AND START READING
THEM. WWW.NOAMALGAM.COM
HIS DIAGNOSIS DOES NOT MEAN HE WON'T BENEFIT FROM SAFE METAL REMOVAL. WE HAVE
HAD OTHER NON VERBAL KIDS START SPEAKING ON THIS PROTOCOL. DON'T BEAT YOURSELF
UP FOR NOT KNOWING THINGS, JUST MOVE FORWARD AND START LEARNING THEM.

>
> I appreciate you helping all of us here and patiently taught us with your
knowledge in these toxic chemicals, explaining things to us day and night,  and
I dont see you make any judgement.
>
> I am just a mom who is trying to find cure for my son, so he can have normal
life (not in the mental hospital).
************THEN PLEASE JITI CHELATE HIM SAFELY. JAN
>
> Thank you very much!!!
>
> Jiti
>

I found that yeast is what drove my kids to do this. Coconut oil wasn't enough.
We had to use grapefruit seed or caprylic acid. And remove the sweets initially
until the yeast is under control.

If you get yeast in control and she's seems starving all the time, try a
parasite cleanse.
Jan

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "Genevive32" <genevive32@...> wrote:
>
> Is there anything that can help my daughter who is starting to crave something
with sugar.  She's always in the kitchen looking for something to eat.  It's
driving me nuts. I currently have her taking probiotics after meals and coconut
oil like 3 time a day, and biotin 2 time a day.  Is there anything that can take
that "edge" off her cravings? Thanks, Jenifer
>

alpha lipoic acid allows the body to detox and heal itself from autism, MS and
Alzheimers.

it's cheap too.

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "mosaictm" <lisa369@...> wrote:
>
> Bet it's a MLM thing. She is making money selling it. If not, she would just
share what it is and tell you where to order it.
>
>
> --- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "weedmessmom" <weedmessmom@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Rafida,
> >
> > If you knew how seriously ill I have been, how much money and time I have
spent trying to get well, and how much of a treasure my miracle detox method is
to me, you would understand my desire to protect it. I certainly do NOT want it
to end up like the electric car and many cancer cures that got squashed,
silenced, or boughtout by big pharma competitors. I will share it one person at
a time with those who show sincere interest. There are too many people in my
life who need this to jeopardize its availability. I hope you understand. I have
only been well for about six weeks and it is almost too wonderful to express. If
I didn't find it, I know EXACTLY where I would be today...in mercury-induced
autoimmune and neurological hell. I was even losing the ability to complete a
sentence, to see, to think, or to swallow. There is nothing like it, so I will
never jeopardize it foolishly. It does what it is approved by the FDA to do-
safely removes heavy metals from the body. End of story. You are free to contact
me at my personal email for info on how to order it.  Laurie
> >
> > --- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, rrafidah@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Laurie,
> > >
> > > May I ask why do we need to contact you privately for info on these drops?
> > >
> > > You can openly share on it like you did with this explanation, can't you?
> > >
> > > Rafidah
> > >
> > > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: "weedmessmom" <weedmessmom@>
> > > Sender: Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 08:26:12
> > > To: <Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Reply-To: Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [Autism-Mercury] New safe mercury detox alllows body to heal
itself from autism, MS, ALS, Alzheim
> > >
> > >  Hi This is going to be a long post, but worth reading.
> > >
> > > I am a nurse who has recently recovered from the depths of mercury
toxicity hell (many exposures but main ones are from HEP B vaccine and mercury
dental fillings plus IV antibiotics and spinal anesthetics during childbirth). I
have experienced first hand ALL of the physical and neurological symptoms that
autistic children suffer with (Multiple sclerosis also has all the same
symptoms). Trust me when I say that all the money and hope you spend on
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children from their illness and symptoms...because even these well intentioned
protocols are only symptomatic treatments and are not getting at the CAUSE of
their symptoms. Killing the Candida only makes you worse because these yeasts
were gobbling up the mercury in order to save your brain and vital organs.
Killing or starving them results in releasing that mercury as well as toxins
they secrete as they die. Taking supplements barely keeps your head above
water....it is not normal to need to "supplement" vitamins, minerals, hormones,
probiotics, and digestive enzymes indefinitely....Ask yourself,"WHY am I (or my
child) low in these things?".  You are low because the mercury that entered your
body via vaccines, mercury-containing dental materials, and many other
little-known insidious ways has been competing with, displacing, and sabotaging
all of these things that your body was designed to produce or utilize to stay
healthy. Until you REMOVE (safely) this dangerous saboteur you will forever need
to take supplements of every kind and will never really get well. Brilliant
researchers know the very mechanisms by which mercury (and other toxins) wreak
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illness is produced. Too bad our doctors remain ignorant of this lifesaving
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in a matter of a few weeks! I did NOT have any die-off or negative side effects
during my rapid recovery. My 10 year old daughter has been taking these drops at
the maximum dose as well and has made a huge turn around in her personality,
academics, and ability to learn and remember things. Both of us had similar
symptoms/problems: learning disabilities, short-term memory loss, poor
balance,poor word retrieval, double vision, poor depth perception, blurred
vision, extreme fatigue, gut issues, irritable bowel,depression,
fearfulness,headaches, frequent infections and illnesses, food allergies,
asthma, aches and pains,insomnia, skin rashes/ezcema. The biggest thing we both
are grateful for is the increased brain power and energy levels (mercury causes
depletion of ATP energy and oxygen carrying capacity of all cells including
cells in the muscles, blood, and brain.)
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> > > Please feel free to contact me for more information. I can tell you how to
get this for your loved ones at the best price and how nuch to take for how
long.It is NOT a medicine, but an FDA approved dietary supplement that has GRAS
status. It does not cure diseases, but rather it is clinically proven to REMOVE
heavy metals from the body and brain.....so that your body is able to HEAL
ITSELF! You and your children do not need to be lifelong members of the
mercury-damaged club. Get the mercury out SAFELY like I just did and say good
riddance to lifelong special diets, expensive tests, and expensive
pharmaceuticals and nutritional supplements. God designed our bodies to be able
to heal themselves...if we can only do our best to keep toxins and heavy metals
OUT or to safely remove them if they do get in. The chelators that are touted as
the only methods to remove heavy metals from the body or brain are laden with
serious side effects and auto intoxication because they can't hold onto the
metals strong enough to allow them to be excreted completely. What I have found
DOES get them out with none of it getting loose and traveling back to your brain
to cause further damage. Also, curretnly functional med docs are saying that
'nearly 80% of the population is now gluten-sensitive even though they are
unaware of it being the cause of their health problems'. We need to again ask
WHY are so many people gluten sensitive? It is NOT normal to be "allergic or
sensitive" to grains and bread!!! What has changed to make this happen?
Fertilizers, pesticides, and FUNGICIDES that are used in the planting,
harvesting, storage and processing of our food grains all contain small (or
large) amounts of MERCURY and other heavy metals and chemicals!!! They
accumulate in our bodies, they kill our gut flora, they encourage Candida to
flourish, they preferentially attach to our fat which includes our myelin
sheaths on our nerve and brain cells and triggered what docs call "autoimmune"
diseases and neurological diseases. Docs give us all different "disease labels"
so we don't get together and realize that we all have the SAME PROBLEM--mercury
toxicity in varying degrees and in slightly different parts of our brains and
nervous systems. ALS, Autism, Multiple Sclerosis, Parkinsons, Alzheimers
disease....they are all the same thing! (Even cancer, heart disease, and
diabetes are inflammatory disease caused by toxins and metals) Doctors pretend
they "don't know what the cause is" yet they DO know how to CAUSE all these
disorders in HEALTHY LAB ANIMALS (in order to test their new drug hopefuls so
they can patent and market them for big bucks)!!! Medical researchers KNOW and
are trying to make their findings public and get doctors to use their research
findings to help cure people...BUT THEY ARE BEING THWARTED BY THE AMA,ADA,and
FDA!!!  Ever wondered why so many of us as well as our children are overweight?
Our bodies have a defense mechansim that works to sequester toxins and heavy
metals safely away into fat cells and labels them with a "DO NOT DISTURB" sign
on them....research leptin and mercury link to learn how come we are unable to
lose our fat. Contact me and I will answer your questions and help you get the
drops that got me well so fast. We need to help spread the word about how to
safely detox our  bodies and save our children as well. In the meantime...."JUST
SAY NO" to vaccines, fluoride, mercury fillings, non-organic and processed
foods,mercury-tinged high fructose corn syrup, excitoxins such as MSG and
Aspartame, and chemicals in our personal care and cleaning products.   Laurie RN
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I'm sorry to hear this.

Is it fairly bright red or more brownish/dark?

Is constipation a problem?

(for other group members) Do the kids use milk thistle?

Is he getting adequate Vit C & Mg?

It might help to know what dose of which chelator(s) you are using and what
supplements.  It might also help to see his hair test if posted in our Files or
elsewhere such as this.
http://livingnetwork.co.za/chelationnetwork/hairtest/hairtest3/

Joe

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "Carmencita Madrigal" <carm010552@...>
wrote:
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> Weve been started 4th round last friday afternoon, my son's yellowish stool
(today and yesterday) was coated with a fresh blood.  Isthis normal when
chelating a kid? Im  really confused and worried..
>

Help!  I've always used Kirkman Labs and never an issue but I'm aware of all the
issues in the past.  My only gripe is I'd like some higher doses and the
hypoallergenic line comes in smaller sizes.  I'm looking for my 9 year old nt
guy with severe food allergies.  I want to start chelation up here the 1st of
the year and need to up is doses on some stuff, like milk thistle.  It's only
100 mg.  He's only like 65 lbs.  Anyway...any one recommend a "clean" single
product line like Kirkman that I can order from.  We only do basic with him like
C, E, D, Mag, Biotin, Milk Thistle and using a Kirkman Multi too.  Between vita
cost and Kirkman is where I buy all my stuff.  My spectrum child has no food
allergies but my nt son is the king in that department and don't want to rock
the boat.  Just want more options.  Anyone?

Thanks
Tammy


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Hi everyone!
I was in the library in Gainesville, GA today and they have a sign posted where
you can get 2 adult passes/2 child passes to the GA Aquarium. All you have to do
is watch a 30 minute video at the library. Not sure if you have to be a member
or not.

The passes are good for 7 days so plan accordingly.

Thought that was worth sharing!
Love
Cammy
http://stores.ebay.com/Cammys-Clothing-Treasures

Hello,

could you maybe recommend a pediatric neurologist in Boston? A friend's 8 y.o.
grandson seems, according to her description, to be on the spectrum, in its
milder part. She wants to have the boy's parents have him evaluated. I would be
very thankful for any suggestions!

Thanks in advance!

Elena

I'm sorry I don't know one.

Many of us use the Cutler Protocol.  You can learn more about it in this audio
interview where Cutler discusses autism.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/thecandystore/2010/03/15/special-guest-andrew-hall-\
cutler-phd-pe

With best wishes for your friend's grandson,

Joe

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "elena4439332" <eboudovs@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> could you maybe recommend a pediatric neurologist in Boston? A friend's 8 y.o.
grandson seems, according to her description, to be on the spectrum, in its
milder part. She wants to have the boy's parents have him evaluated. I would be
very thankful for any suggestions!
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Elena
>

We have the same problem with aggression.  We have finished one year of AC
chelation and things are SIGNIFICANTLY better.  The few supplements that have
helped a LOT are No-Fenol and Molybdenum and Arginine.  All three of those have
reduced aggression some.  Deb

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "danasview" <danasview@...> wrote:
>
> --- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "krottenbach22" <krottenbach22@> wrote:
> > We've done 20 rounds of chelation with low dose 5mg DMSA and 5 mg ALA. It
took me a year to start it because introducing supps was so hard. Son developed
screaming and aggression that never happened before, and no high dose of
antifungals worked against it. I stopped all supps several times and tryied to
restart them again some time later, but it only got worse. We now live in fear
of everyday terrible tantrums with selfaggression and screaming. I give medical
antifungals too often because GSE, OoO, Biotin, Biocidin, Candidase and Candex
don't work.
> > Who had the same problem, and what did you do?
>
>
> My son was similar, altho his symptoms were [thankfully] the opposite of your
child's.  Whenever I tried to give supplements, my son became spacy and "not
here".  The only supplement he tolerated at one point was HNI enzymes, so I
started ALA when he was only taking the enzymes.  I was able to add in a few
supplements at about round 10, but the rest had to wait until about round 50
when he started tolerating them.
>
> Dana
>