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#276104 From: "Claus-Peter Kessler MD" <Claus-Peter.KesslerMD@...>
Date: Mon Mar 1, 2010 9:50 am
Subject: Re: Re: ear infection - what would you use?
clauspeter.k...
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Hello Jinwen,
Do you have the blood subtype Apolipoprotein E4 ?
Were you tested as mercury sensible via Kinesiology or Acupuncture ?
Are you a patient, who was exposed to mercury recently so that Hahnemann
could
write the homeopathic picture including otitis media ?
If all the above, how can you consider taking Traumeel?
It contains mercurius solubilis D6, that means it contains mercury .
If you consider taking mercurius solubilis as a homeopathic remedy, the
dilution should be higher than D30.
Think about it.

Claus-Peter


-----Original Message-----
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 17:34:19 +0100
Subject: [Autism-Mercury] Re: ear infection - what would you use?
From: "Jingwen Jin" <jjw.autism@...>
To: Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com

                                     

Hi Michele and everybody,

Thanks very much for your kind replies. So last night I went to a
whole food store and purchased a couple of products that are supposed
to aid ear infection: traumeel (homeopathic), sovereign silver (for
oral and external use - recommended by the store staff), and hydrogen
peroxide (for cleaning) (they did not give me garlic oil). People have
warned me of not using H2O2 if bleeding; so I'll remember this.

The good thing is it does not appear to be a real ear infection. The
dark "red" color that I saw looks more dark brown when I used a flash
light that allowed me to see more clearly. My son did appear to be
sick (slept almost 3 days & nights), but hope there's not an infection
going on.

Anyway, thank you all so much for your generous suggestions.

Best regards,

Jingwen

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com [1], "michele_in_california"
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> I have a little general information here:
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> http://healthgazelle.com/earache.shtml [2]
>
> Please note that peroxide in the ear is a bad idea if there is
current or recent bleeding as it will melt the clots/scab and can
restart the bleeding/prevent it from clotting.  I have found calcium
supplements help stop bleeding.  Calcium is necessary to start the
cascade of events which leads to clotting.
>
> Recently, I have been mostly treating my ear problems with olive
leaf extract and oil of oregano taken orally.  I also pour distilled
water over q-tips and use them to clean out my ears and nose (4
q-tips, one for each ear and one for each nostril, then flush them
down the toilet to the get any infectious matter out of the house
promptly).  It's gentle and surprisingly effectively.  I rarely
irrigate my sinuses anymore since I began doing this.  Sinus
irrigation is a standard treatment for my genetic disorder.  I did
sinus irrigation at least twice a day for years.  Now I do this two or
more times a day.  It's less hassle and I'm generally feeling a lot
better.
>
> I will also note that my current ear problems come from using the
phone at work.  If your son is ever on the phone or has anything else
he puts to his ears (like headphones), it would be a good idea to
clean them or even replace them. Peroxide, distilled water, and/or
diet tonic water on a paper towel are pretty effective non-toxic
disinfectants.
>
> Good luck with this.
>
> Michele
> http://www.healthgazelle.com [3]
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#276105 From: marybeth Comfort <mcomfort@...>
Date: Mon Mar 1, 2010 1:04 pm
Subject: Re: Doctor in ohio/Demio
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Re: Demio seeing patients other than autism...
It is my understanding that Dr. Demio will see all types of patients. I have
personally consulted him on adult issues related to mood disorders, ADHD, and
gut support. He believes that much of what ails us is related to toxicity and
will treat anyone. He can prescribe any kind of medicine needed. Definitely
worth a call into the office.
mb

#276106 From: "Pamela H" <phaselow@...>
Date: Mon Mar 1, 2010 1:17 pm
Subject: Re: April/re: type A--question about veg diets
noaholiviaian
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Laura,

Find some Vitamin D3.

Can you find fermented soy products like tempeh and miso?  Those are good
protein sources without the negatives associated with soy (well, at least the
phytates and enzyme inhibitors).  If you do consume soy regularly for protein,
I'd also get more calcium, magnesium, zinc and iron.

I think going GFCF for you will be pretty seamless, as long as you can get your
hands on alternative grains.

It is definitely possible to be vegan/vegetarian and deal with Autism.  You are
a thoughtful vegan... careful about getting your nutrients.  That's good.

Can you/do you afford organic when possible?

Pam (who needs to go back to vegetarian; I felt great then)

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "littlelittlejoyjoy" <fanelli.laura@...>
wrote:
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> I am glad to know there are other vegans out there!  I am vegan (vegetarian
for 17 years and vegan for 2 years) and while i think that my partner who has
autism is enjoying the way we eat, sometimes i wonder whether his body might
need different nutrients that i am not providing at home (animal proteins if he
has certain plant sensitivities, etc.  Fish for the omegas?)   I think your
average person would think our diet was near perfect though.  Of course, we have
b12 supplements.  We eat a very healthy and balanced diet and cook at home 90%
of the time. We both love cooking, eats lots of grains, legumes, nuts, green
veggies, etc.  I am watching for soy sensitivities.  Right now we are about to
go GFCF. I don't mind if he consumes meat if he so chooses (preferably outside
of the house), but it is impossible to find grass-fed animals where we live.
Also, impossible to find organically fed or free-range animals.  I am
considering cooking eggs at home for him if necessary.
>
> Any thoughts on autism and a (healthy!) vegetarian/vegan diet?
>
> Thanks,
> Laura
>
> --- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, sunrose101@ wrote:
> >
> > Dear April,
> > ?
> > I just recently found out that my daughter is type A too.? Since there are
only 3 or 4 blood types, 20% doesn't seem overly high??
> > ?
> > When we became vegan and mostly raw when my daughter was young, there was a
lot of progress.? We didn't use soy much, and when we did, only tofu.? Instead
we ate a load of almonds and 'raw' cashews.? We had lots of volunteers for the
patterning we were doing with her so we bought the nuts in 25lb lots!
> > ?
> > After a while, there's not such a craving for heavy protein!
> > ?
> > If You get John Robbins book: Diet for a New America (
> > www.amazon.com/Diet-New-America-John-Robbins/dp/0915811812 -? ), You'll see
that everything has 'protein', and that the various world health organizations
recommend protein to be from 2-8 percent of the diet.? Breast milk is around 2%.
(I've seen varying figures.)
> > ?
> > I just read about diet and blood types the other day.? Very interesting,
although I think I'm O and I'm thriving and strong 35 years a vegan.
> > ?
> > Sincerely,
> > Francine
> >
> >
> > Speak with Him Thou for He hearest.
> > Spirit with Spirit can speak.
> > Closer is Love than breathing,
> > Nearer than hands and feet.
> >
> > (with appreciation for Tennyson)
> >
> >
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#276107 From: "bettwice33" <bettwice33@...>
Date: Mon Mar 1, 2010 2:23 pm
Subject: Fraud from Generation Rescue
bettwice33
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#276108 From: "danasview" <danasview@...>
Date: Mon Mar 1, 2010 2:25 pm
Subject: Re: Treating Yeast with GSE alone?
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--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, ong hy <onghy123@...> wrote:
> I strongly suspect my son has yeast problem. He's oppositional, giggly,
talking much to himself etc.. I have never treated yeast for him on my own in my
whole life, so I'm a bit nervous about giving him GSE. I read most of you give
GSE & 'biotin'. I only have GSE with me (not in my home country).
> He's 20kg. Can I try giving him 1 drop of GSE per day & see if the symptoms go
away in a week's time?


My son would have needed more than one drop, but you can definitely start by
giving him one drop per day for a few days and see if that helps.

Dana

#276109 From: happybrats3@...
Date: Mon Mar 1, 2010 9:33 am
Subject: Re: Fraud from Generation Rescue
happybrats03
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What does GR even have to do with her video?  I am confused.

Tracey


In a message dated 3/1/2010 8:25:00 A.M. Central Standard Time (Mexi,
bettwice33@... writes:




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#276110 From: "jcgre" <johngrellner@...>
Date: Mon Mar 1, 2010 2:42 pm
Subject: Re: Chelation and Parasite Cleanse
jcgre
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I use an F165, made by Atelier Robin, as my main machine.  I used and emem
machine from rife labs for awhile, but then upgrated to something called a
sending device, which works with the f165.  the sending device is based on
technology way beyond my knowledge.  that is it seems more like science fiction,
but it works and that is all the proof I need.  It is called the SC1-A.

John

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, isaiah harrison <e34liphe@...> wrote:
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> ===> hi John, could i ask what rife machine you used and is it the same one
you would recommend?
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parasites.  fluoride, lead and mercury.  very intense.  if anything you need to
up the dose of whatever is needed to take care of the toxins.  I tried human
worm a few years ago, without much sucess.  my problem was probably too much to
expect herbs to do much.  later turned to rife technology with much sucess.  We
used rife on my son as well for his parasite issues, worked fairly well.  he is
not autistic, but is allergic to just about every food.  We follow the advice
and experiences of parents with autistic kids because so many of his issue are
the same.  rife was good because we didn't have to worry about whether he could
tolerate any particular supplement.
>
> John
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> --- In Autism-Mercury@ yahoogroups. com, "JessicaG" <luckylot@ .> wrote:
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> > We are doing the Andy Cutler chelation protocol (20 rounds done) with our
four year old and for a while now we have suspected possible parasite issues,
because he gets irritable and an itchy hiney just before a full moon.  He had
been doing perfectly all week then literally on the fourth day before the full
moon (yesterday) both of my kids started acting very weird, irritable and
stimmy. So I started him on a children's Humaworm cleanse today (the baby is
only 23 pounds and just under two so it says not to use on him yet).  My
question is, do we have to stop the chelation totally while we are doing this? 
It's so hard to know what we can use together.  I am supporting his liver with
milk thistle and liver life three times a day (can't use this daily, because of
an energy therapy he gets twice a week so we avoid Tue and Thurs with LL).  I
also have artichoke extract, if he might need more?  I tried ACE to support
adrenals, but he gets VERY itchy all
>  over his body with it, so that isn't an option.  He has been doing SO well
with chelation and I HATE to stop it, but I am worried about overdoing it all. 
We also give LDM-100 and OLE along with his yeast protocol.  I felt this rally
needed to be addressed in order to progress, but where do we cut back...?
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#276111 From: "Rebecca" <Ladyshrink111@...>
Date: Mon Mar 1, 2010 2:37 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Doctor in ohio
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   From: gEOrGe mUStArD




   It appears that Doctor Demio only treats people with Autism

   --

   ====>Dr Demio does not use Andy's protocol and due to recent ethical concerns,
there are several reasons I would not recommend him.  Dr. Cheryl also does not
use Andy's protocol. The Ohio dr in Maumee has been trained by Andy.

   Rebecca



   - On Sun, 2/28/10, Andrea <egerpatt@...> wrote:

   From: Andrea <egerpatt@...>
   Subject: [Autism-Mercury] Re: Doctor in ohio
   To: Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com
   Date: Sunday, February 28, 2010, 7:33 AM

   I would recommend dr Demio in Cleveland and columbus. He us very thorough,
will support the AC protocol if that's your preference. A brilliant physician
and excellent adovocate too. Andrea

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#276112 From: "jcgre" <johngrellner@...>
Date: Mon Mar 1, 2010 2:44 pm
Subject: Re: Chelation and Parasite Cleanse
jcgre
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tetra boron helps neutralize it.  so does gold leaf, extremely well, but that
may not be an option for sensitive kids.  SSKI strongly mobilizes fluoride, but,
you body still has to get it out.  that is where boron and gold helps.
John

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "Linda Shepard Salzer"
<Linda_Shepard@...> wrote:
>
> What did you do to treat for fluoride?
> Linda S S
>
> Re: Chelation and Parasite Cleanse
> Posted by: "jcgre" johngrellner@...   jcgre
> Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:39 pm (PST)
>
> Some of the worst toxin dumps I have ever experienced came when treating
parasites. fluoride, lead and mercury. very intense. if anything you need to up
the dose of whatever is needed to take care of the toxins. I tried human worm a
few years ago, without much sucess. my problem was probably too much to expect
herbs to do much. later turned to rife technology with much sucess. We used rife
on my son as well for his parasite issues, worked fairly well. he is not
autistic, but is allergic to just about every food. We follow the advice and
experiences of parents with autistic kids because so many of his issue are the
same. rife was good because we didn't have to worry about whether he could
tolerate any particular supplement.
> John
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#276113 From: Valencia <valencia.wilson@...>
Date: Mon Mar 1, 2010 2:50 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Starting Lamictal, help - Andy, others!
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I took Lamictal for a while...short one that is!  It made EVERY
bone in my body ache, especially first thing in the a.m.  I could barely
walk downstairs unassisted. I noticed that when I  titrated up after the
initial 14 days is when my problems began.

Valencia

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On Feb 25, 2010, at 6:44 PM, "sutopi67" <sutopi67@...> wrote:

my son had terrible night wakenings starting from week 3, terribly constipated,
sitting for hours in the toilet in the middle of the night (he is never
constipated), no improvements for him, but i hear some kids respond really well.
GO SLOW in the rump up

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "iam2l84t" <mam78@...> wrote:
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> Thanks for your reply Susanna.
>
> I read about the possible side-effects of course and that's why I wanted to
know from those who had used them when the negatives show up so I could decide
whether to start this now & continue on vacation or wait.
>
> I'm starting the Lamictal tonight so I'm keeping my fingers crossed & hoping
to see benefits from the start.
>
> Monique
>
>
> --- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "vaccinesuk" <vaccinesuk@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > My son was on lamictal many years ago. I started on very low dose also, and
built up steadily. My son slept for 3 weeks straight after starting this
medication. Never got an explanation why, there are side-effects of course, just
read the paperwork it lists a myriad of them. Hope things go well for you. I got
my son off the medications after a change of diet, actually think his seizures
were due to food issues and reactions to vaccine toxins.
> >
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#276114 From: "Pamela H" <phaselow@...>
Date: Mon Mar 1, 2010 2:48 pm
Subject: Re: Fraud from Generation Rescue
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Ignore it.

Of course this story is threatening to those who advocate vaccines, and I expect
these reactions.  I do think it is somewhat unfortunate that Dr. Buttar is the
treating D.O., here since his methods are questionable and easily portrayed as
bizarre/irresponsible.  It takes away from the truth of her story that people
need to be aware of the risks of a vaccine.

Pam

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "bettwice33" <bettwice33@...> wrote:
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> http://hatingautism.blogspot.com/2010/03/generation-rescues-fraud-exposed.html
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#276115 From: gEOrGe mUStArD <george_mustard@...>
Date: Mon Mar 1, 2010 3:16 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Doctor in ohio
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does anyone know anything about Doctor Cole at the Cole center for healing?  He
is in Cinci

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Subject: Re: [Autism-Mercury] Re: Doctor in ohio
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  It appears that Doctor Demio only treats people with Autism

  --

  ====>Dr Demio does not use Andy's protocol and due to recent ethical concerns,
there are several reasons I would not recommend him.  Dr. Cheryl also does not
use Andy's protocol. The Ohio dr in Maumee has been trained by Andy.

  Rebecca



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  From: Andrea <egerpatt@...>
  Subject: [Autism-Mercury] Re: Doctor in ohio
  To: Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Sunday, February 28, 2010, 7:33 AM

  I would recommend dr Demio in Cleveland and columbus. He us very thorough,
will support the AC protocol if that's your preference. A brilliant physician
and excellent adovocate too. Andrea 

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#276116 From: "jjimenez91604" <jjimenez91604@...>
Date: Mon Mar 1, 2010 3:16 pm
Subject: Student Survey
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Hello,

I'm a nursing student and mother of a 4 year old diagnosed with autism.  I am
doing a research project on autism and the biomedical treatment.  It is part of
my project to contact an e-mail list like this one to get information.  I have
heard about autism and biomedical treatment and how it has helped some kids to
recover.  I would like to know if anyone knows of any good websites or books on
this topic that they have personally found very helpful.

Please send your responses off list. I will make sure to share my findings with
the group at a later time. Thanks in advance.

Sincerely,

Jenny Jimenez

#276117 From: Martin Aronson <sailcharters@...>
Date: Mon Mar 1, 2010 3:43 pm
Subject: Re: Fraud from Generation Rescue
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not fraud... more to the story...
 
http://autismspeaksnetwork.ning.com/forum/topics/desiree-jennings-dr-buttar-on

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From: bettwice33 <bettwice33@...>
Subject: [Autism-Mercury] Fraud from Generation Rescue
To: Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, March 1, 2010, 9:23 AM


 



http://hatingautism .blogspot. com/2010/ 03/generation- rescues-fraud-
exposed.html











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#276118 From: "bettwice33" <bettwice33@...>
Date: Mon Mar 1, 2010 3:52 pm
Subject: Re: Fraud from Generation Rescue
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Pam,
This hoax was perpetrated by the people who advocate vaccines.  It is designed
to make people who tell the truth about how vaccines cause damage look like a
bunch of liars and idiots.

Pretend you never heard of autism.  What would you think of this actress and
doctor with a miracle cure that works in a matter of hours?

This hoax is part of propaganda tactics known as "bandwagon" and "repetition"
whereby every little bit of information that plays in the media is used as a
tool to discredit everyone who cures autism.

Please don't tell people to ignore propaganda that's designed to hurt their
children when you haven't thought about it.

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "Pamela H" <phaselow@...> wrote:
>
> Ignore it.
>
> Of course this story is threatening to those who advocate vaccines, and I
expect these reactions.  I do think it is somewhat unfortunate that Dr. Buttar
is the treating D.O., here since his methods are questionable and easily
portrayed as bizarre/irresponsible.  It takes away from the truth of her story
that people need to be aware of the risks of a vaccine.
>
> Pam
>
> --- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "bettwice33" <bettwice33@> wrote:
> >
> >
http://hatingautism.blogspot.com/2010/03/generation-rescues-fraud-exposed.html
> >
>

#276119 From: "bettwice33" <bettwice33@...>
Date: Mon Mar 1, 2010 4:13 pm
Subject: Re: Fraud from Generation Rescue
bettwice33
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Yes, fraud.  Generation Rescue is quite experienced at fraud.  Let's see if you
can find the fraud in this study that they did
http://generationrescue.org/pdf/survey.pdf
If you can't find it, check back with me and I'll give you the link that
explains that piece of fraud.

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, Martin Aronson <sailcharters@...> wrote:
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> not fraud... more to the story...
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> http://autismspeaksnetwork.ning.com/forum/topics/desiree-jennings-dr-buttar-on
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> Subject: [Autism-Mercury] Fraud from Generation Rescue
> To: Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, March 1, 2010, 9:23 AM
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> http://hatingautism.blogspot.com/2010/03/generation-rescues-fraud-
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#276120 From: "Rebecca" <Ladyshrink111@...>
Date: Mon Mar 1, 2010 4:17 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Doctor in ohio
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   does anyone know anything about Doctor Cole at the Cole center for healing? 
He is in Cinci

   ===>No, I don't know anything about this dr. Do two seconds of extra work and
look in the frequent dose chelation group for the dr in Maumee. Most drs,
especially Dan! drs do not how to chelate properly, plus the majority of them
will confound you with lots of extra treatments that you don't need. Stick with
a dr who has done his own research beyond what the Dan! protocol requires.

   Rebecca





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   Subject: Re: [Autism-Mercury] Re: Doctor in ohio
   To: Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com
   Date: Monday, March 1, 2010, 6:37 AM

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     It appears that Doctor Demio only treats people with Autism

     --

     ====>Dr Demio does not use Andy's protocol and due to recent ethical
concerns, there are several reasons I would not recommend him.  Dr. Cheryl also
does not use Andy's protocol. The Ohio dr in Maumee has been trained by Andy.

     Rebecca

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     Subject: [Autism-Mercury] Re: Doctor in ohio
     To: Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com
     Date: Sunday, February 28, 2010, 7:33 AM

     I would recommend dr Demio in Cleveland and columbus. He us very thorough,
will support the AC protocol if that's your preference. A brilliant physician
and excellent adovocate too. Andrea

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#276121 From: "grandma35peg" <peg10435@...>
Date: Mon Mar 1, 2010 4:35 pm
Subject: OT Reply//Re: OT: anyone denied health care for child b/c of no vaccines?
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--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "Linda Shepard Salzer"
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> My niece was denied cleft lip surgery at Shriners in Chicago because she was
not vaccinated.  Her family does not have insurance and Shriner's had okayed her
for the surgery knowing she was unvaccinated then changed their tune refusing
about a week before the surgery was to take place.  She ended up having
8af
the surgery elsewhere.
> Linda S S
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
REPLY; Not a case denied but..the children's hospital nearly always asks if 'he'
is current on his immunizations.  He hasn't had one in a number of years. At one
time, he had an exemption from his local Dr. Mother always says he is 'as far as
she knows' and they don't question. I'm sure they're aware of the autism/vaccine
controversies, what hospital could not be?  But, not sure they ever look back
far enough in his file to see the Dr's exemption either.

As for Shrine care, they are a Service org., I'd liken their service to the
other missionary services, secular or religiuos and I'd bet they are all under
the auspicies of the Fed. gov't. requirements...so they may administer vaccines
to 'catch up'. Now, if the child has already gone years w/o and not had that
demand put on them before, I'd also question why now?  If your niece has an
exemption of any kind, on file anywhere, was it presented to the Shrine reps?
And did the family ask why this was Their medical requirement? I can imagine
what they'd say but just wondered what, if, they did state some specific reasons
why they would Withhold medical treatment because of no immunizations?  Also
wondering if that's a legal point they could be advised on, even after the fact
that surgery was done elsewhere? It just doesn't seem legal to refuse after
accepting the case...let alone humanitrian.

A friend had a child who was severly affected in many ways..he was a true basket
case. They needed more medicals than Medicaid, welfare, whatever could provide,
so I suggested Shriner's.  They went to the hometown application process day. 
They were then refused aid...something about him being too severly in need of
medicals...and That didn't seem congruous to me either. They were getting help
from the children's hosp., Medicaid, etc. and might have been denied because
they had these other sources...It's been 20 years since then, no longer sure of
any other exact reason.  I think the Mother was trying to get him more frequent
medical help, not the every 3 to 6 months she had then.

I suspect that all service organizations will have rules and regs that are in
line with gov't requirements whether they're religious or secular.

grandma peg

#276122 From: "Linda Shepard Salzer" <Linda_Shepard@...>
Date: Mon Mar 1, 2010 5:05 pm
Subject: Re: Use of Natural or Homeopathy for Detox
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Check the archives for info about why NDF products are a bad idea.  Keep in mind
that most homeopathic remedies are dairy or grain-alcohol-based.  Challenge
tests are dangerous due to the high single dose, please don't do any more.
Linda S S

Use of Natural or Homeopathy for Detox
Posted by: "Kay" kp_mlist@...   kp_mlist
Sun Feb 28, 2010 2:22 pm (PST)


Has anyone had good or bad experience with using apo-hepat, renelix and itires
with the NDF product for Detoxing Mercury and/or Lead?
I would like to hear about experience - where improvement was seen, did you see
porphyrin or challenge test levels go down etc?

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#276123 From: "Linda Shepard Salzer" <Linda_Shepard@...>
Date: Mon Mar 1, 2010 5:10 pm
Subject: Re: April/re: type A--question about veg diets
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Hi Laura,
My husband (30+ yrs) and I (20+ yrs) are vegan (and I'm gluten-free).  Digestive
enzymes should help him get the nutrients he needs from plant foods.  He can get
omegas from flaxseed.
Linda S S

Re: April/re: type A--question about veg diets
Posted by: "littlelittlejoyjoy" fanelli.laura@...   littlelittlejoyjoy
Sun Feb 28, 2010 6:25 pm (PST)


I am glad to know there are other vegans out there! I am vegan (vegetarian for
17 years and vegan for 2 years) and while i think that my partner who has autism
is enjoying the way we eat, sometimes i wonder whether his body might need
different nutrients that i am not providing at home (animal proteins if he has
certain plant sensitivities, etc. Fish for the omegas?) I think your average
person would think our diet was near perfect though. Of course, we have b12
supplements. We eat a very healthy and balanced diet and cook at home 90% of the
time. We both love cooking, eats lots of grains, legumes, nuts, green veggies,
etc. I am watching for soy sensitivities. Right now we are about to go GFCF. I
don't mind if he consumes meat if he so chooses (preferably outside of the
house), but it is impossible to find grass-fed animals where we live. Also,
impossible to find organically fed or free-range animals. I am considering
cooking eggs at home for him if necessary.

Any thoughts on autism and a (healthy!) vegetarian/vegan diet?

Thanks,
Laura


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Date: Mon Mar 1, 2010 5:11 pm
Subject: OT//FREE Webinar/Grt.PlainsLab/Mar.3/Persistence Yeast w/Autism
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#276125 From: "Pamela H" <phaselow@...>
Date: Mon Mar 1, 2010 5:27 pm
Subject: Re: Fraud from Generation Rescue
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I meant we should ignore that personal blogger.  A lot of people waste their
time orchestrating a witty reply to bloggers like that and it isn't going to do
anything to alter that blogger's mind.  You wind up in a big pissing match;
giving the blogger even more air time.

There are other ways to go about raising awarness and exposing the truth about
toxins and neurological damage.

Pam

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "bettwice33" <bettwice33@...> wrote:
>
> Pam,
> This hoax was perpetrated by the people who advocate vaccines.  It is designed
to make people who tell the truth about how vaccines cause damage look like a
bunch of liars and idiots.
>
> Pretend you never heard of autism.  What would you think of this actress and
doctor with a miracle cure that works in a matter of hours?
>
> This hoax is part of propaganda tactics known as "bandwagon" and "repetition"
whereby every little bit of information that plays in the media is used as a
tool to discredit everyone who cures autism.
>
> Please don't tell people to ignore propaganda that's designed to hurt their
children when you haven't thought about it.
>
> --- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "Pamela H" <phaselow@> wrote:
> >
> > Ignore it.
> >
> > Of course this story is threatening to those who advocate vaccines, and I
expect these reactions.  I do think it is somewhat unfortunate that Dr. Buttar
is the treating D.O., here since his methods are questionable and easily
portrayed as bizarre/irresponsible.  It takes away from the truth of her story
that people need to be aware of the risks of a vaccine.
> >
> > Pam
> >
> > --- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "bettwice33" <bettwice33@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
http://hatingautism.blogspot.com/2010/03/generation-rescues-fraud-exposed.html
> > >
> >
>

#276126 From: "Lisa White" <LisaRWhite@...>
Date: Mon Mar 1, 2010 5:18 pm
Subject: Re: Re: April/re: type A--question about veg diets
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I really like hemp milk and hemp seed for protein...they are loaded with
Omega's.    Http://www.drbronner.com/PDF/hempnutrition.PDF



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From: Linda Shepard Salzer
Date: 3/1/2010 11:10:11 AM
To: autism-mercury@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Autism-Mercury] Re: April/re: type A--question about veg diets


Hi Laura,
My husband (30+ yrs) and I (20+ yrs) are vegan (and I'm gluten-free).
Digestive enzymes should help him get the nutrients he needs from plant
foods. He can get omegas from flaxseed.
Linda S S

Re: April/re: type A--question about veg diets
Posted by: "littlelittlejoyjoy" fanelli.laura@... littlelittlejoyjoy
Sun Feb 28, 2010 6:25 pm (PST)

I am glad to know there are other vegans out there! I am vegan (vegetarian
for 17 years and vegan for 2 years) and while i think that my partner who
has autism is enjoying the way we eat, sometimes i wonder whether his body
might need different nutrients that i am not providing at home (animal
proteins if he has certain plant sensitivities, etc. Fish for the omegas?) I
think your average person would think our diet was near perfect though. Of
course, we have b12 supplements. We eat a very healthy and balanced diet and
cook at home 90% of the time. We both love cooking, eats lots of grains,
legumes, nuts, green veggies, etc. I am watching for soy sensitivities.
Right now we are about to go GFCF. I don't mind if he consumes meat if he so
chooses (preferably outside of the house), but it is impossible to find
grass-fed animals where we live. Also, impossible to find organically fed or
free-range animals. I am considering cooking eggs at home for him if
necessary.

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Thanks,
Laura

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#276127 From: "Pamela H" <phaselow@...>
Date: Mon Mar 1, 2010 5:36 pm
Subject: Re: Fraud from Generation Rescue
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Mr. Bettwice,

I don't understand what you are trying to accomplish here in our group.  Over
the past week you have stirred the pot with Rick and now this.  Your posts are
quite aggressive and caustic.  I'm not sure if you are just angry (I sure can
be) or up to something.

Dr. Buttar is not part of a hoax to expose the 'vaccine danger' crowd as liars
and kooks. I just don't see where you are going... Generation Rescue, too?

To tell me I haven't 'thought about it' isn't OK.  I live it.

Just an observation.  Take a step back and relax.

Pam


--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "bettwice33" <bettwice33@...> wrote:
>
> Pam,
> This hoax was perpetrated by the people who advocate vaccines.  It is designed
to make people who tell the truth about how vaccines cause damage look like a
bunch of liars and idiots.
>
> Pretend you never heard of autism.  What would you think of this actress and
doctor with a miracle cure that works in a matter of hours?
>
> This hoax is part of propaganda tactics known as "bandwagon" and "repetition"
whereby every little bit of information that plays in the media is used as a
tool to discredit everyone who cures autism.
>
> Please don't tell people to ignore propaganda that's designed to hurt their
children when you haven't thought about it.
>
> --- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "Pamela H" <phaselow@> wrote:
> >
> > Ignore it.
> >
> > Of course this story is threatening to those who advocate vaccines, and I
expect these reactions.  I do think it is somewhat unfortunate that Dr. Buttar
is the treating D.O., here since his methods are questionable and easily
portrayed as bizarre/irresponsible.  It takes away from the truth of her story
that people need to be aware of the risks of a vaccine.
> >
> > Pam
> >
> > --- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "bettwice33" <bettwice33@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
http://hatingautism.blogspot.com/2010/03/generation-rescues-fraud-exposed.html
> > >
> >
>

#276128 From: "funitln1" <angelaperatta@...>
Date: Mon Mar 1, 2010 5:33 pm
Subject: Visual Stimming Question
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My 4 y/o likes to turn his head to one side, close the opposite eye, squint the
one turned the same direction and walk very close to things like fences, bushes,
up and down chair slats.  He also likes to take his fork when he is eating and
do the same thing by raising his fork in front of his face with eyes the same. 
He also likes to cover things partially and do this or the same with his face
right on top of a picture or something.  He has a Baby Einstein video where a
ball rolls from top to bottom across the screen and he will stand at the end
where it rolls to right up against the TV and still sees it and laughs like
crazy when it comes to him.  We don't much let him have anything that lights up
anymore because it was much worse then.  He is amazing on a computer but I'm
concerned to about him stimming on that because he just screaches with laughter,
then runs and jumps all around like never before.  He also always turns his TV
on when his computer is on.  I'm assuming this is just too much stimulation even
though he appears to love it.  Any experiences with this or recommendations?  I
know a lot of parents that just allow there kids to stem and say it helps them
deal with things.  For us, when he is not stemming, other than him being mostly
non-verbal and a bit hyperactive you pretty much can't even tell anything is
wrong with him.  He also doesn't get upset if he doesn't get the things he stems
on.  He loves them, but he finds other things to do he is happy with. I would
appreciate any help I can get on this.  Thanks so much!  Angela

#276129 From: Karen Falconer Al-Hindi <karen.alhindi@...>
Date: Mon Mar 1, 2010 5:51 pm
Subject: Re: Clostridia
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I am giving caprylic acid for my son's yeast...must it be rotated?
Every 2 weeks? Every 3 weeks?

TIA,
Karen

The BEST thing for my daughter's clostridia problem has been
Goldenseal. Get the Goldenseal root from Vitacost. Also, Sacc B given
with Culterelle works very well. Goldenseal should be rotated every 2
to 3 weeks. Uva Ursi should be rotated too. OLE works well for other
bacteria like strep, it does nothing for my daughter's clostridia.

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "Concerned"
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>
> Hi,
>
> I saw some posts a while ago about which probiotics were best for clostrida
bacteria. It was sacc B. that people were using. Question if clostrida is a
bacteria, why not use OLE which , I understand is an anti-bactieria?
>
> PWC
>

#276130 From: "Tammy Kuhn" <tkuhn1@...>
Date: Mon Mar 1, 2010 5:45 pm
Subject: dry lips, food allergy maybe?
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Anyone see dry lips with food allergies?  My nt 7.5 year old has had really
severe dry lips since Friday.  Today wasn't feeling well and threw up at school,
no fever.  So I'm guessing skittles from the weekend, two birthday parties and
he's been eating apple sauce almost daily.  Back off, clean up diet and see if
he clears up...but anyone with dry lips and food allergies?  Never seen it
before but haven't been good about rotation.  We'll push water too today.

Thanks in advance.

Tammy


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#276131 From: "Pamela H" <phaselow@...>
Date: Mon Mar 1, 2010 6:21 pm
Subject: Re: Visual Stimming Question
noaholiviaian
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Cod liver oil helped my son's sideways looking/running down hallways close to
walls.  Vitamin A is probably the help here.

Pam

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "funitln1" <angelaperatta@...> wrote:
>
> My 4 y/o likes to turn his head to one side, close the opposite eye, squint
the one turned the same direction and walk very close to things like fences,
bushes, up and down chair slats.  He also likes to take his fork when he is
eating and do the same thing by raising his fork in front of his face with eyes
the same.  He also likes to cover things partially and do this or the same with
his face right on top of a picture or something.  He has a Baby Einstein video
where a ball rolls from top to bottom across the screen and he will stand at the
end where it rolls to right up against the TV and still sees it and laughs like
crazy when it comes to him.  We don't much let him have anything that lights up
anymore because it was much worse then.  He is amazing on a computer but I'm
concerned to about him stimming on that because he just screaches with laughter,
then runs and jumps all around like never before.  He also always turns his TV
on when his computer is on.  I'm assuming this is just too much stimulation even
though he appears to love it.  Any experiences with this or recommendations?  I
know a lot of parents that just allow there kids to stem and say it helps them
deal with things.  For us, when he is not stemming, other than him being mostly
non-verbal and a bit hyperactive you pretty much can't even tell anything is
wrong with him.  He also doesn't get upset if he doesn't get the things he stems
on.  He loves them, but he finds other things to do he is happy with. I would
appreciate any help I can get on this.  Thanks so much!  Angela
>

#276132 From: "natkrupnik" <natkrupnik@...>
Date: Mon Mar 1, 2010 6:32 pm
Subject: Re: Treating Yeast with GSE alone?
natkrupnik
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Hi all,

We haven't started the AC protocol yet, still gathering information. But I
suspect my son has a yeast issue as he has a lot of similar behavioral  symptoms
like laughing to himself, talking to himself, laughing when I ask him to do
something, he's hyperactive, running around house, etc.

I'm wondering what would be a good start for him to treat yeast. I've read a lot
about it and everyone seems to have something different that worked for them.
Could you please give me advice on the basis? What to start with, how long to
give it to him?

I really appreciate your time.

Thank you,
Natallia
--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "danasview" <danasview@...> wrote:
>
> --- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, ong hy <onghy123@> wrote:
> > I strongly suspect my son has yeast problem. He's oppositional, giggly,
talking much to himself etc.. I have never treated yeast for him on my own in my
whole life, so I'm a bit nervous about giving him GSE. I read most of you give
GSE & 'biotin'. I only have GSE with me (not in my home country).
> > He's 20kg. Can I try giving him 1 drop of GSE per day & see if the symptoms
go away in a week's time?
>
>
> My son would have needed more than one drop, but you can definitely start by
giving him one drop per day for a few days and see if that helps.
>
> Dana
>

#276133 From: "John and Teraza Real" <jtreal@...>
Date: Mon Mar 1, 2010 6:47 pm
Subject: RE: dry lips, food allergy maybe?
queentray
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Hi Tammy,



For me, and my kids, dry lips almost always indicates yeast.



Hope that helps



From: Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Tammy Kuhn
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 10:46 AM
To: Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Autism-Mercury] dry lips, food allergy maybe?





Anyone see dry lips with food allergies? My nt 7.5 year old has had really
severe dry lips since Friday. Today wasn't feeling well and threw up at
school, no fever. So I'm guessing skittles from the weekend, two birthday
parties and he's been eating apple sauce almost daily. Back off, clean up
diet and see if he clears up...but anyone with dry lips and food allergies?
Never seen it before but haven't been good about rotation. We'll push water
too today.

Thanks in advance.

Tammy

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