> homocysteine chelates lead in a manner
> similar to DMSA.  If that's true,

This is not correct.

Andy

This is typical of the fraud based approach to medicine characterized by the CDC
and FDA.

Once the FDA said to stop manufacturing vaccines with thimreosal all the
criminal scum in
charge of our health started chanting "there's no thimerosal in vaccines" the
next day.

Of coiurse the previously manufactured vaccines were out there being used for
several
more years, and it was not possible to remove thimerosal from all the vaccines
so special
exceptions were made.

Even withoiut the thimerosal there are substnatial risks to vacination.

Andy

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "l.largey" <l.largey@...> wrote:
>
> I have read many articles stating today's vaccines for children have no
> thimerisol in them. All the 21 vaccines my son supposedly didn't have
> mthimerisol in them as listed. My friends pediatrician told her thats
> not true and that the non thimerisol vaccines still have a trace amount
> in them..and advised her to a shedule of just doing the measles vaccine
> instead of the whole MMR. Does Anyone know or have links to good info
> on this subject to share?
>

The adrenals are all tied in with body fluid and electrolyte balance - salt
being one that is used to maintain blood pressure. Part of that mechanism
involves the angiotensins which have neuroregulatory properties. An increase
of salt will have served to tone down the angiotensins, which in turn may
have resulted in a tonic influence on inflammatory cytokines within the CNS.
Angiotensin Converting Enzyme Inhibitors which are used for high blood
pressure also reduce cytokine activity.

Jon.


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Below is proof showing that vaccines are much more toxic, than just mercury. 
Please take time to watch this very important video and send to everyone you
know.  The good news is that there are inexpensive non-pharma solutions to
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cheap, but good stuff.

Dean


   -----Original Message-----
   From: Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of hisblueeyes
   Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 1:02 AM
   To: Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: [Autism-Mercury] Where did you buy your organic mattress from??


   If you wouldn't mind sharing, I could really use some recommendations on
   where you purchased your organic mattresses from. I'm mentally exhausted
   tonight from looking at the many sites I found, so any recommendation
would
   help. Also, please chime in if you're not happy with your purchase.

   Thanks,

   Michelle

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My middle child had high ammonia as well.  We treat daily with alpha
detoglutaric acid.  She had not started chelation when we tested
ammonia so I know for us, DMSA had nothing to do with her ammonia
levels.  Treating her ammonia brought amazing results...  I highly
suggest you get some AKA on board.
Wyndie

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, Leigh leighcpe
<lleighcpe@...> wrote:
>
> Hi everybody,
>   I have a question for everybody. My son's pede tested him for a
bunch of things and the Ammonia, plasma came back high the reference
range is <=47 umol/L and Andrew tested at 208(AA) four times the
allowed amount. Does anyone had this problem before and who did you
treated your child?  I don't know what this really means. Do you
think he has high ammonia because of the oral DMSA chelation we have
done?
>
>   He also tested high for vit B-12 reference range 180-914 pg/ml
he is at 1500 (H)
>   ASO AB TITTER reference range <150 IU/ml he is at 189 (H), he
has strep infections all the time and we're looking to have an
tonsillectomy. Is tonsillectomy advisible, for repeated strep?
>   Thanks everybody, I really appreciate it.
>   Leigh mom to Andrew 7yo
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Get easy, one-click access to your favorites.  Make Yahoo! your
homepage.
>
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>

I seem to remember that someone noticed that old posts were dropping off and
discovered that onibasu was the way to preserve older posts.  Onibasu is
essentially archives.
Linda S S

Re: Posts copied onto the net?
Posted by: "danasview" danasview@...   danasview
Fri Nov 30, 2007 6:46 am (PST)

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "noaholiviaian" <phaselow@...>
wrote:
>
> What I don't know is if group owner/moderators need to give consent
> to Onibasu.com to archive our posts.
>
> Moderator?

I was not moderator when onibasu started archiving the messages here,
so I don't know whether permission was given. I like Andy's reply! =)

Dana




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Subject - Opportunity to thank paper for mercury dental information

HI Friends,

My good buddy and Board President of Consumers for Dental Choice, Sandy Duffy
had an article published on the internet on Oregonlive.

Please take a minute to read it and blog your comments to the paper.

Let's tell the paper that we want more articles about mercury dental fillings -
thank you - Sandy!

Here is the link: 
http://blog.oregonlive.com/oregonianopinion/2007/11/sandra_duffy_toxics_surprise\
_h.html#more

Thank you,
Mary Ann Newell



_______________________________________________
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The most personalized portal on the Web!

I used to have a shortcut to a site that showed how to move your mouth and
tongue to make speech sounds. Of course, we had a computer crash and I lost my
favorites.

If anyone has that link, I'd love to have it forwarded to the group or to me,
Carolyn


     Kurt, Carolyn, and Little Kurt
   Toledo, Ohio
   visit http://www.asno.org





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Um, that should be alpha Ketoglutaric acid (AKA).  I didn't check my
spelling before posting.  lol
Wyndie

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "Wyndie" <mileski5@...> wrote:
>
> My middle child had high ammonia as well.  We treat daily with
alpha
> detoglutaric acid.  She had not started chelation when we tested
> ammonia so I know for us, DMSA had nothing to do with her ammonia
> levels.  Treating her ammonia brought amazing results...  I highly
> suggest you get some AKA on board.
> Wyndie
>
> --- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, Leigh leighcpe
> <lleighcpe@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi everybody,
> >   I have a question for everybody. My son's pede tested him for
a
> bunch of things and the Ammonia, plasma came back high the
reference
> range is <=47 umol/L and Andrew tested at 208(AA) four times the
> allowed amount. Does anyone had this problem before and who did
you
> treated your child?  I don't know what this really means. Do you
> think he has high ammonia because of the oral DMSA chelation we
have
> done?
> >
> >   He also tested high for vit B-12 reference range 180-914 pg/ml
> he is at 1500 (H)
> >   ASO AB TITTER reference range <150 IU/ml he is at 189 (H), he
> has strep infections all the time and we're looking to have an
> tonsillectomy. Is tonsillectomy advisible, for repeated strep?
> >   Thanks everybody, I really appreciate it.
> >   Leigh mom to Andrew 7yo
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Get easy, one-click access to your favorites.  Make Yahoo! your
> homepage.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

If you wouldn't mind sharing, I could really use some recommendations on
> where you purchased your organic mattresses from.


http://www.landandsky.com/products/organic.asp

My son has had back to back strep for 2 months now the shot didn't clear it
up, the amox. 2 rounds didn't do it, the Olive leaf extract, the ped rx
KEFLEX?  The other option was augmentin which I know is BAD!  Anyone  hear of
Keflex?  I asked for a rx of diflican with  it.....AARRRGHHHHH   This kid is
regressing big time....I feel like  crying....but what good will that do...he is
throwing up every 3 days, angry  aggressive, biting, screaming.....ANY ADVICE?
KEFLEX???  What  the.............
                    ~Sharon



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Amoxicillin will deplete Biotin ( vitamin H). Try supplementing with
biotin....Start at 1 mg and work upwards over days.....

Julie
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   From: sharashing@...
   To: Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 12:25 AM
   Subject: [Autism-Mercury] HELP KEFLEX for STREP?????


   My son has had back to back strep for 2 months now the shot didn't clear it
   up, the amox. 2 rounds didn't do it, the Olive leaf extract, the ped rx
   KEFLEX? The other option was augmentin which I know is BAD! Anyone hear of
   Keflex? I asked for a rx of diflican with it.....AARRRGHHHHH This kid is
   regressing big time....I feel like crying....but what good will that do...he
is
   throwing up every 3 days, angry aggressive, biting, screaming.....ANY ADVICE?
   KEFLEX??? What the.............
   ~Sharon

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I - and a woman I worked with both had SEVERE reactions to Keflex.
I'll never take it ever.  It made me absolutely nuts.  When I was
taking it, I thought I was losing my mind.  I was nauseated, crazy,
dizzy, disconnected, couldn't think or talk straight.  Then I realized
that as the time wore on, and it was close to the next dosage, I'd
start to feel better, then got terrible again after taking it.  When
my co-worker took it, she could not even get up off the floor.  She
crawled to the phone to call her doctor.  If you look up the drug's
history, it's made from awful stuff - like a scummy fungus.

Please consider looking into homeopathic remedies for strep.  I think
that's the only way to truly get rid of it.  It changes forms and then
the immune system can't fight it because it doesn't recognize it.  I
think strep is a huge issue in many of our kids  and us.  It seems to
"run in my family"... so we have kept reinfecting each other for at
least three-four generations.  I think strep is very related to OCD
behaviors.

I much prefer the older ABX to the new strong ones, (except special
circumstances.)


--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, sharashing@... wrote:
>
> My son has had back to back strep for 2 months now

> KEFLEX???  What  the.............
>                    ~Sharon

Routine Testing Confirms Elevated Male Hormones in Autism





   Release                            Contacts:

   For Immediate Release               CoMeD President [Rev. Lisa K. Sykes
(Richmond, VA) 804-364-8426]

   November 28, 2007                     CoMeD Sci. Advisor [Dr. King (Lake
Hiawatha, NJ) 973-263-4843]



   WASHINGTON, DC - A new moderate-scale peer-reviewed scientific/medical study
confirms many patients with an autistic spectrum disorder (ASD) suffer from
significantly elevated levels of male hormones, and numerous treatments that
lower male-hormone levels have significantly improved clinical outcomes in
patients with an ASD.

   This study, "A Prospective Assessment of Androgen Levels in Patients with
Autistic Spectrum Disorders: Biochemical Underpinnings and Suggested Therapies,"
by Mr. David A. Geier and Dr. Mark R. Geier, has been published in the most
recent issue of Neuroendocrinology Letters (Volume 28, Issue 5, pgs. 565-573). A
grant from the Brenen Hornstein Autism Research & Education (BHARE) Foundation
(Elk Grove, IL) to the Institute of Chronic Illnesses, Inc. (Silver Spring, MD)
funded this research.

   Previous studies by Tordjman et al. (1997) and Geier and Geier (2006) have
suggested patients with an ASD have elevated levels of male hormones.  The male
hormones tested in the Geier and Geier (2007) study were: testosterone,
dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA), and androstenedione.

   This study utilized blood testing to assess the level of these male hormones
in patients diagnosed with an ASD. The researchers examined 70 patients
diagnosed with an ASD who were subsequently found to have elevated male-hormone
levels by the CLIA-approved US Laboratory Corporation of America (LabCorp).

   The findings by Geier and Geier demonstrate:

   ·        Patients with an ASD had significantly increased levels of serum
testosterone, serum free testosterone, percent free testosterone, DHEA, and
androstenedione relative to LabCorp's age- and sex-specific reference range
means.

   ·        Female patients with an ASD diagnosis had significantly higher
relative testosterone and free testosterone levels than the male patients.

   ·        Elevations in male hormone levels may result from environmental
exposures, such as mercury, and increase the toxicity of the exposure.

   The results of the present study confirm and extend previous observations,
establishing the clinical importance of elevated male-hormone levels in those
diagnosed with an ASD. Also, this paper's findings are consistent with those
observed by many others who treat similar patients.

   The researchers also found that administration of a male-hormone-reducing drug
(leuprolide acetate, LUPRON®) to nearly 200 patients diagnosed with an ASD
resulted in significantly lowered male-hormone levels and corresponding
clinically significant reductions in hyperactivity / impulsivity, stereotypy,
aggression, self injury, abnormal sexual behaviors, and/or irritability
behaviors that frequently occur in patients with an ASD, with few non-responders
and minimal adverse effects from the therapy.

   Thus, hormone testing is being successfully used to:

   ·        Demonstrate the role of elevated male hormones in populations with an
ASD,

   ·        Clinically identify children and adults who have elevated male
hormones, and

   ·        Track male hormone levels from affected patients undergoing treatment
to lower male hormones.

   Today, any parent, physician, or healthcare provider can easily confirm
whether a patient diagnosed with an ASD has elevated male hormones through
testing done at LabCorp.

   Among other articles, the CoMeD's website, http://www.Mercury-freeDrugs.org,
contains full copies of the 2006 and 2007 papers authored by David A. Geier and
Mark R. Geier.




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US FDA Misleads Public on Danger of Thimerosal (Mercury)

     Release                            Contacts:

     For Immediate Release               CoMeD President [Rev. Lisa K. Sykes
(Richmond, VA) 804-364-8426]

     December 1, 2007                       CoMeD Sci. Advisor [Dr. King (Lake
Hiawatha, NJ) 973-997-1321]



     WASHINGTON, DC - The ubiquitous and largely unchecked use of Thimerosal
(mercury) in drugs represents a medical crisis according a newly published
scientific study. With no warning, recall, or ban of mercury in vaccines and
many other drugs as of yet, the victims of this mandated, unwarranted, and
massive mercury exposure are an unsuspecting public and, above all, defenseless
unborn children and babies.

     This study, "A Review of Thimerosal (Mertholate) and Its Ethylmercury
Breakdown Product: Specific Historical Considerations Regarding Safety and
Effectiveness" was just published in the Journal of Toxicology and Environmental
Health, Part B: Critical Reviews (Volume 10, pgs 575-596).  The authors of this
study are David A. Geier, Lisa K. Sykes, and Mark R. Geier.  Researchers from
the non-profit Institute of Chronic Illnesses, Inc., the non-profit CoMeD, Inc.,
and the Genetic Centers of America conducted this study.  A grant from the
Brenen Hornstein Autism Research & Education (BHARE) Foundation (Elk Grove, IL)
to the Institute of Chronic Illnesses, Inc. funded this research.

     Thimerosal (a/k/a Merthiolate) is an ethylmercury derivative that was
developed in 1927 and is 49.55% mercury by weight.  From the early 1930s,
Thimerosal has been marketed, without proof of safety, as an antimicrobial agent
in a range of products, including antiseptic solutions and antiseptic ointments
for treating cuts, nasal sprays, ear and eye drops, vaginal spermicides, and
diaper rash treatments.

     Most significantly, Thimerosal has also been used as an in-process sterilant
and a preservative in vaccines and other injectables.  Moreover, most flu-shot
doses recommended for routine administration to pregnant women and children in
the US today still contain an unsafe level of Thimerosal.

     Recent statements made by those holding national and global responsibility
for vaccine and drug safety are difficult to reconcile with 70 years of
published medical studies repeatedly demonstrating harm caused by Thimerosal in
pregnant women, children, and adults.  For example, researchers reported on
Thimerosal:

     ·         Pittman-Moore Company (1935) - "in other words, [Thimerosal] is
unsatisfactory as a preservative for serum intended for use on dogs."

     ·         Ellis (1943) - "it may be advisable to withdraw this product from
the market."

     ·         Fagen et al. (1977) - Reported on 13 cases of infants exposed to
Thimerosal, 10 of whom died. "The results showed that [Thimerosal] can induce
blood and organ levels of organic mercury which are well in excess of the
minimum toxic levels.the fact that mercury readily penetrates intact membranes
and is highly toxic seems to have been forgotten."

     ·         The Collaborative Perinatal Project of the NIH, CDC, and FDA
(1977) concluded Thimerosal exposure during the first 4 months of a women's
pregnancy resulted in nearly 3-times as many birth defects.

     ·         Heyworth and Truelove (1979) - "[Thimerosal] should now be
regarded as an inappropriate preservative."

     ·         Kravchenko et al. (1983) - "the use of thimerosal for the
preservation of medical biological preparations, especially those intended for
children, is inadmissible."

     ·         Cox and Forsyth (1988) - "severe reactions to [Thimerosal]
demonstrate a need for vaccines with an alternative preservative."

     ·         Aberer (1991) - "Thus mercury is still much more frequently used
than is generally believed. This seems incomprehensible because side effects are
not only potentially disastrous but also numerous and well documented."

     This new study clearly refutes claims by the US Centers for Disease and
World Health Organization that, "Thimerosal has been used for >60 years in
infant vaccines and in other applications and has not been associated with
adverse health effects."

     After its December 2007 update, the CoMeD's website,
http://www.Mercury-freeDrugs.org, will contain a full copy of this study, among
other articles on the dangers posed by the use of Thimerosal in medicine.



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Sugar needs to be natural and organic.  Each sugar is different,
depending on its source- cane, beet, fruit, corn, etc.

Artificial sweeteners and high fructose corn syrup are both terrible
for brain, liver, and body. High fructose corn syrup affects hormone
levels. People now consume much more HFCS than cane sugar.

Honey -IMO- is very good, except for babies - or at least it used to
be, before GMO food.  Organic maple syrup is excellent.

When you eat REAL food - organic, not GMO, not artificially chemically
  put together, the body knows what it is, how to digest it, how to
metabolize it.  Artificial foods are not recognized by the body, often
not metabolized, usually harmful.

I now buy Organic cane sugar. It is really good! I'm trying to move
away from HFCS (and I'm a Dr. Pepper-aholic.) It's really hard to find
foods that don't have HFCS in them.

This is one simple article on sugar:
http://www.noweightgaincookbooks.com/worse_than_sugar.htm



-- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, Tina Payton <amamteews@...> wrote:
>
> Which is worse artificial sweeteners or high fructose cornsyrup, and
truelly are sugars the same or not, where is the line. Natural,
extracted, and, or replaced.

-- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "l.largey" <l.largey@...> wrote:
>
> I have read many articles stating today's vaccines for children have
no  thimerisol in them. All the 21 vaccines my son supposedly didn't
have thimerisol in them as listed. My friends pediatrician told her
thats not true and that the non thimerisol vaccines still have a trace
amount in them..and advised her to a shedule of just doing the measles
vaccine instead of the whole MMR. Does Anyone know or have links to
good info  on this subject to share?
>



Trace amounts of thimerosol are still in vaccines - or it's the same
amount, and just no longer labeled.

Vaccines are contaminated with unknowns - There is an unnatural
combining of viruses, bacteria, fungi, cell tissues from humans and
animals all combined into a Pandora's box of pathogens to be injected
into someone's child.


http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/additives.htm


  Besides the things we are aware of such as aluminum, thimerosal,
  fermaldehyde and antifreeze...

  Other ingredients include:
  lactose, casein, soy peptone,
  egg products
  tissue from chicken, monkey, mouse and bovine
  human blood and DNA (human haploid and diploid cells)
  neomycin, streptomycin and gentamicin (gentamicin can cause
  deafness)
  various yeasts
  phenol
  amphotericin B
  EDTA

  There used to be a link on the CDC site to "vaccine contaminations".
  All links are no longer working (or not there).

We are on round 28 at home with no doc..and doing excellent. I just
follow Andy's protocol. The risks for one round if you do it on his
protocol are nil.  If you do IV the risks are terribly high. I
remember being apprehensive and scared to try the first round. But
then I thought, how many times have I done things doctors told me to
do without thinking twice...and look where it got me. I also looked
that risks of leaving heavy metals in my child, what is was doing to
his development and what it could do to his health as he got
older..those risks are the real ones.
EDTA is an antique! It pulls minerals and is not tested for use in
children. It is also not good for mercury. People who use it often get
sicker.  DMSA is FDA approved to use in children. It has been tested
for such a use. I looked it up myself and read some studies on it to
be sure I was not going to hurt my child using it. And a minimal dose
like 5mg.... was nothing compared to the amounts they gave in the studies.

I would not try one round with EDTA. TD or otherwise. This antique
chelator is usually used by mainstream docs in adults with heart
disease. It is used to remove calcium plaques from the arteries.


You can do this safely yourself by reading Andy's protocol and using
the supplements recommended.
People place so much faith in DAN! doctors but please remember the
difference between a DAN! and a regular doc is a seminar. Thats all
they have to take to be called a DAN!. No extra schooling on
chelation, detox, chemistry, pharmacology...the things you need to
know before you chelate and charge people for it.

Go with your gut..which is telling you this DAN is wrong.


--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "laura19982005"
<laura19982005@...> wrote:
>
> My ds was just five and is about 40 lbs.  I want to start chelation
> according to Andy's protcol, DAN wants IV which I am strongly opposed
> to.  I want to start slow, but my DAN says DMSA is a sulfur drug with
> more risk than the TD-EDTA he gave me.  Anyway, just need some
> reassurance here to do this on my own.
>
> What is the risk from trying one round?
>
> Thanks,
> Laura
>

It's Nutribiotics.
--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "kellie.elise" <kneet@...> wrote:
>
>
> Jada,
> Thank you for the help with the GSE.  One more quick question.....can
> you tell me how much GSE is in the tablets you use, or what the brand
> is?  Thanks again,
> kellie
>
>
>
>
> --- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "Jada" <paxlforme@> wrote:
> >
> > Oh PS...sorry I say tablets because most kids will not touch the
> > liquid. It tastes very bitter...I couldn't even choke it down. We not
> > use the liquid as a wash for yeast rashes.
> > --- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "kellie.elise" <kneet@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > Could someone please tell me how much doses of GSE? And how long
does
> > > it usually take to get rid of the yeast? My son weighs 50 pounds.  I
> > > have heard GSE is effective for yeast issues; I am also going to try
> > > coconut oil.  Any suggestions are greatly appreciated!  Thank you.
> > >
> >
>

Disturbed sleep is not always part of adrenal problems. Both my kids
have slow adrenals, and they sleep fine at night. As do I and my
adrenals are wiped out. Cold hands and feet is thyroid usually. The
other signs are adrenal. Do you have a DDI hair test? That will
indicate adrenal/thyroid issues.

My son eats sea salt like it's a food group..I still have to give him
adrenal cortex every morning.

Symptoms: anxiety, tantrums, meltdowns, light sensitivity, noise
sensitivity, mood swings, trouble falling asleep at night, tired or
hard to wake up in the am, craving salt. Probably a ton more....

Use Sea salt only. Table salt holds little to nothing you want in your
child. Iodine is good for thyroids (iodoral). You can try licorice or
ashwaghanda if you know there is an adrenal problem. I found adrenal
cortex helpful for myself and both my kids. My son (age 5) only needs
1/4 cap a day. His adrenal fatigue seems to be mild. My dtr who is 12
is pretty bad. I did a saliva test on her...so she takes upwards of 4
a day.

If your really in doubt you may need to do a saliva test on her for
adrenal and thyroid levels. If this is not possible...do the
flashlight test for adrenals. Go into the bathroom, take a flashlight,
have her stand in front of the mirror. Turn on the flashlight, turn
off all other lights. Now have her look straight into the mirror while
you shine the light into the side of her eyes. Watch her pupils! Do
they constrict and stay that way? If so, good. They should. If they
constrict, and get larger, then smaller, then larger. and keep going
and can't stay constricted...She needs adrenal support.
Andy has said it is fine to give adrenal cortex for this.
Hydrocortisone is not recommended without a doctor and not unless the
natural stuff doesn't work.
For thyroid you would need to convince a doc to test T3, T4 and TSH.
To see if she needs iodine, take some betadine and rub it on her
arm..time how long it takes to absorb. Go to
www.stopthethyroidmaddness.com  They tell you how to do this and how
long it should take to absorb it. If it absorbs really quickly, like a
few hours...she needs iodine. Which will help her thyroid.
Hope that helps...

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "iam2l84t" <mam78@...> wrote:
>
>
> I think that my daughter has adrenal fatigue. She craves salt & asks
> for it with every meal and she seems to have other associated symptoms
> like heightened anxiety, cold hands/feet, and sensory integration
> problems. BUT she sleeps like a log and since disturbed sleep is also
> a sign of adrenal stress, I'm questioning my observations.
>
> I'm wondering what the other symptoms are of adrenal fatigue for our
> kids and what the necessary remedies are.
>
> I read somewhere that for some people, it's sufficient to increase
> their daily salt with some potassium as needed. Has this worked for
> others on the list? Or do our kids really need adrenal cortex extract
> to address adrenal stress? And if yes, how much & for how long?
>
> The other night, I gave my kids GFCF chips with their dinner,
> something I rarely do. These chips were *very* salty & my daughter
> gobbled up 3 helpings. By the time we had story time, I noticed that
> she seemed unusually calm, more attentive she also handled tensions
> with her brother without the usual meltdowns that happen when she's
> tired. Could an intake of salt have such positive results so quickly
> or am I on the wrong track?
>
> Any insight into this is appreciated.
>
> Monique
>

They are not thimerosal free. Just thimerosal reduced.
It says on the package insert that the product is made with thimerosal
so that traces may remain in the final product.

Also read the article on the parent group who tested vaccines
independently and found that thimerosal free ones do have mercury in
them. Forward this to your friend.
By the way measles is dangerous..it's a live virus vaccines...I would
skip them all..not worth the risk. If a child actually caught
measles...you can treat it with high dose vitamin A like they do in
Africa.

http://www.whale.to/a/mercury7.html

PRESS RELEASE - FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
August 12, 2004
Health Advocacy in the Public Interest (HAPI)
Contact: Dawn Winkler 970-641-7413

Vaccines Are Not Mercury Free

After much public controversy surrounding the mercury content of
childhood vaccinations, Health Advocacy in the Public Interest (HAPI)
raised $500 to have four vaccines tested for heavy metal content.
The vials were sent to Doctor's Data, an independent lab which
specializes in heavy metal testing.

Many manufacturers voluntarily began producing supposed "mercury
free" vaccines in 1999.  Some product inserts currently claim that
a "trace" amount of mercury still exists in the final product but
that the amount has been greatly reduced. Others claim to be
producing completely mercury free products.

During an investigation into the mercury issue, HAPI learned that
Thimerosal, a 50% mercury compound, is still being used to produce
most vaccines and that the manufacturers are simply "filtering it
out" of the final product.  However, according to Boyd Haley, PhD,
Chemistry Department Chair, University of Kentucky, mercury binds to
the antigenic protein in the vaccine and cannot be completely, 100%
filtered out.

All four vaccine vials tested contained mercury despite manufacturer
claims that two of the vials were completely mercury free.  All four
vials also contained aluminum, one nine times more than the other
three, which tremendously enhances the toxicity of mercury causing
neuronal death in the brain.

The mercury content of routine childhood vaccinations has been linked
to the current autism epidemic as well as numerous other neurological
disorders affecting children today.  Currently, one in six children
are affected in some way and one in 250 children are diagnosed as
autistic compared to one in 10,000 prior to mercury containing
vaccines.

It is the position of Dr. Haley as well as HAPI that if mercury can
be detected in any vaccine using standard instrumentation, the
content should be disclosed in the product insert and manufacturers
should not be allowed to call the product "mercury free".

Executive Director of HAPI, Dawn Winkler, met with FDA officials in
Silver Spring, Maryland on July 27, 2004 to discuss blatant
mislabeling and misrepresentation of ingredients in vaccinations
which are licensed by the FDA.  Clearly, more testing is needed.  The
FDA has the ability and authority to take on the necessary testing,
however, at present, this task sadly appears to be up to the public.

HAPI will be attempting to raise more funds to test more vaccines in
an effort to pressure the FDA to crack down on manufacturers to label
their products correctly. To help with this effort call 970-641-7413
or email noshots@.... (noshots(at)earthlink.net)



--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "l.largey" <l.largey@...> wrote:
>
> I have read many articles stating today's vaccines for children have no
> thimerisol in them. All the 21 vaccines my son supposedly didn't have
> mthimerisol in them as listed. My friends pediatrician told her thats
> not true and that the non thimerisol vaccines still have a trace amount
> in them..and advised her to a shedule of just doing the measles vaccine
> instead of the whole MMR. Does Anyone know or have links to good info
> on this subject to share?
>

Thank you for explaining that. I wish that were all there were to it.
But in my experience with adrenal fatigue, of which I actually have as
does my 12 year old...all the fluids and salt in the world..have not
corrected adrenal function. Salt may help as you explain....but not
likely a fix for most people. My adrenal are full of mercury...the one
and only metal that causes adrenal fatigue. So for most of us that are
toxic...we need more help than electrolytes. But this is good to know
and remember, so that we stay hydrated and eat lots of sea salt! Which
scares the bajeez out of regular docs...
Oh my gosh...salt not that! Most restrict it which I think is
dangerous, they should instead refer people to the correct type of
salt that there body was meant to have..not iodized processed table
salt...

by the way..did you know that they bleach table salt to make it white?
Because after they refine it, and add the iodine back in..it's
actually this hideous purple. Which no one would eat...so they bleach
it. It contains none of the minerals that sea salt has. So sprinkle on!

-- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Scott" <jerseybean@...> wrote:
>
> The adrenals are all tied in with body fluid and electrolyte balance
- salt
> being one that is used to maintain blood pressure. Part of that
mechanism
> involves the angiotensins which have neuroregulatory properties. An
increase
> of salt will have served to tone down the angiotensins, which in
turn may
> have resulted in a tonic influence on inflammatory cytokines within
the CNS.
> Angiotensin Converting Enzyme Inhibitors which are used for high blood
> pressure also reduce cytokine activity.
>
> Jon.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

We love FortiFlax, it has a bunch of aminos and EFA's all in one deal.
May not work for your needs...but it's a suggestion.
--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "l.largey" <l.largey@...> wrote:
>
> Anyone find a good amino acid product they like? Love some input on
> this : )
>

Well, from the past two weeks I have spent looking at beds, here is
what I learned:
Organic can include arsenic and antimony as both are considered
"organic" flame retardants. Some other companies are using a
phosphorus flame retardant claiming it is safer. (IKEA, treats their
stuff).

And that organic cotton can contain contaminants too, so be sure to
check that they do not "do anything" to the cotton. Provide a
prescription for a chemical free bed to insure they don't. Avoid foams
of any kind. Even if they are not treated..they still out gas some
pretty toxic chemicals.
Wool, organic cotton, buckwheat, hemp, latex, think "really early
settlers" and close to nature!

I have also learned..that I cannot afford one of these nice beds..

Your site looks ok, just email or call to be sure they meet your
criteria..and get a script.

-- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "corndoggirl1977"
<crystalandbrock@...> wrote:
>
> If you wouldn't mind sharing, I could really use some recommendations on
> > where you purchased your organic mattresses from.
>
>
> http://www.landandsky.com/products/organic.asp
>

Augmentin is usually given to children. I have not used Keflex myself
but my mother has many times. She seems to either have trouble
clearing infections or they are not really infections her doc gives
her meds for.
It seems at this point something must be done for the strep. The other
things did not work, and untreated strep can be dangerous.

Dana??  I think she knows something to get rid of this. I had to give
my kid antibiotics when he got, but I jacked his probiotics up high. I
gave the anti, then four hours later the probio..and kept doing that
for all the days he was no it.

OLE didnt work? Did you give a lot of it and for weeks? Hmm...


--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, sharashing@... wrote:
>
> My son has had back to back strep for 2 months now the shot didn't
clear it
> up, the amox. 2 rounds didn't do it, the Olive leaf extract, the ped
rx
> KEFLEX?  The other option was augmentin which I know is BAD!  Anyone
  hear of
> Keflex?  I asked for a rx of diflican with  it.....AARRRGHHHHH
This kid is
> regressing big time....I feel like  crying....but what good will
that do...he is
> throwing up every 3 days, angry  aggressive, biting,
screaming.....ANY ADVICE?
> KEFLEX???  What  the.............
>                    ~Sharon
>
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Hi Leigh.  AKA is a supp and I get ours from New Beginnings.

My daughter used to languish on the sofa most of the day, regardless
of how much sleep she had. She needed to be carried everywhere we
went.  She literally spent her days laying around sucking her thumb
and twirling her hair, too exausted to do anything else.  That was
the biggest thing that changed when we added AKA; she had energy to
do normal kid stuff.  I'm sure there were other things, but that was
the most obvious and immediate.

I hope you see quick results with your little guy.  :)

Wyndie

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, Leigh leighcpe
<lleighcpe@...> wrote:
>
> Wyndie thanks for the reply. Where do you get AKA? Is this RX or
supp? Thanks Leigh!
> He has all the problems that high ammonia brings, exp: He is sleep
all the time even though he sleeps for about 10 hours every night,
he also has a little bit of hand tremors and I believe it has to do
with the high ammonia. Can you tell what kind of improvements you
saw in your child? Thanks again. Leigh
>
>   Wyndie <mileski5@...> wrote:
>           Um, that should be alpha Ketoglutaric acid (AKA). I
didn't check my
> spelling before posting. lol
> Wyndie
>
> --- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "Wyndie" <mileski5@> wrote:
> >
> > My middle child had high ammonia as well. We treat daily with
> alpha
> > detoglutaric acid. She had not started chelation when we tested
> > ammonia so I know for us, DMSA had nothing to do with her
ammonia
> > levels. Treating her ammonia brought amazing results... I highly
> > suggest you get some AKA on board.
> > Wyndie
> >
> > --- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, Leigh leighcpe
> > <lleighcpe@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi everybody,
> > > I have a question for everybody. My son's pede tested him for
> a
> > bunch of things and the Ammonia, plasma came back high the
> reference
> > range is <=47 umol/L and Andrew tested at 208(AA) four times the
> > allowed amount. Does anyone had this problem before and who did
> you
> > treated your child? I don't know what this really means. Do you
> > think he has high ammonia because of the oral DMSA chelation we
> have
> > done?
> > >
> > > He also tested high for vit B-12 reference range 180-914 pg/ml
> > he is at 1500 (H)
> > > ASO AB TITTER reference range <150 IU/ml he is at 189 (H), he
> > has strep infections all the time and we're looking to have an
> > tonsillectomy. Is tonsillectomy advisible, for repeated strep?
> > > Thanks everybody, I really appreciate it.
> > > Leigh mom to Andrew 7yo
> > >
> > >
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Hi,

My 10 year old son has been chelating high lead with IV EDTA.  We've
been doing this since early spring.  We go about every other week
(mainly financial).  His lead is starting to come down and his mercury
is starting to go up (which I knew was going to happen)but now I'm
worried that I shouldn't give him EDTA anymore because even though it's
good for lead it's not good for mercury.  I'm so confused!!

I want to start giving him oral DMSA instead of EDTA but he has
constipation issues (which are getting better, cleared up candida yeast
in gut) and I'm thinking he shouldn't take anything oral until he's
regular everyday.  Is that the consensus?  If he goes 4-5 times a week
is that still not enough to take oral chelators?

Thanks for all your help,
Natalie

stop emailing me this bullshit.
--- Natalie <Zmemommy@...> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> My 10 year old son has been chelating high lead with
> IV EDTA.  We've
> been doing this since early spring.  We go about
> every other week
> (mainly financial).  His lead is starting to come
> down and his mercury
> is starting to go up (which I knew was going to
> happen)but now I'm
> worried that I shouldn't give him EDTA anymore
> because even though it's
> good for lead it's not good for mercury.  I'm so
> confused!!
>
> I want to start giving him oral DMSA instead of EDTA
> but he has
> constipation issues (which are getting better,
> cleared up candida yeast
> in gut) and I'm thinking he shouldn't take anything
> oral until he's
> regular everyday.  Is that the consensus?  If he
> goes 4-5 times a week
> is that still not enough to take oral chelators?
>
> Thanks for all your help,
> Natalie
>
>



      
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