Donna, I am not a Rhogam mom and I Did not have the Flu shot while pregnant.
But I am Very sensitive to metals.  I can only where solid gold Jewelry.
Silver turns black in less than an hour and most costume jewelry either
cases an allergic skin reaction or my body eats it up (becomes all pitted
and finishes bubble up) if left on for a prolonged period of time.  Robin
-----Original Message-----
From: Donna [mailto:dma_nc1@...]
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 10:13 AM
To: Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Autism-Mercury] Stacey, Robyn and Sio

Are any of you rhogam moms? Or did any of you have the Flu vaccine
while being pregnant?

Donna




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Robyn,

         It's funny you should metion this....I can't wear mu wdding ring
because is was set in 10k gold and the only thing I can wear is 14k or more.
silver doesn't seem to  bother me. How bazzar huh?

Stacy


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I did not get the email, either.  But there is no way I can get to
Charlotte for the conference because both my kiddo's have camp that
week.  So I will be in Mississippi.  Once we get back, Liam starts
Fastforword to work on his CAPD, and that is a mandatory 5 day
program, so no good chance of leaving town then, either.  I wish I
could go!  Also, Charlotte is like 3½ hours from me.  If they ever
have anything in Raleigh, let me know, as that is a bit more doable
(maybe)!

Thank you for thinking of me!
Sio

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "robinarnold1"
<robinarnold1@n...> wrote:
> Donna, I am not a Rhogam mom and I Did not have the Flu shot while
pregnant.
> But I am Very sensitive to metals.  I can only where solid gold
Jewelry.
> Silver turns black in less than an hour and most costume jewelry
either
> cases an allergic skin reaction or my body eats it up (becomes all
pitted
> and finishes bubble up) if left on for a prolonged period of
time.  Robin
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Donna [mailto:dma_nc1@h...]
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 10:13 AM
> To: Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Autism-Mercury] Stacey, Robyn and Sio
>
> Are any of you rhogam moms? Or did any of you have the Flu vaccine
> while being pregnant?
>
> Donna
>
>
>
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Sio,

        I am inbetween where you are and charolette, I understand your
situation other than you have farther to drive. I hope your children have a
wonderful
time at camp and that after words your son does well in his program. I am
sure that if there is a confrence out that way someone on the board will let us
know. Did you have a good night?

Stacy


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Actually, I did sleep quite well. But I'm worrying a bit now that
I'm awake. I've got Liam scheduled to get his amalgams out in June
(done by the 29th). Then I have to make a choice to either do it on
our own or with a DAN! doctor. DH keeps flip-flopping. Honestly, I
think doing it on our own would be safer and maybe faster.

I think my pdoc will help minimally by getting me any lab tests I
may want or need, and thus I'm leaning more toward waiting the three
months then just doing ALA. My pdoc has a kiddo with his own
issues, and, like Liam, isn't autistic, so he is very "interested" in
the whole chelation idea, so I've heard from some other mother's who
are doing it. They all use DAN! doctors. But, to me, he is being
detached. He truly would rather I go to a DAN! doctor. Using just
ALA means I can't start until after school starts again.

I hate to do much of anything to Liam once school starts because the
beginning of the school year is the WORST for him. All summer he
isn't around a room full of noisy kiddo's, then BAM! his CAPD rears
it's ugly head and he gets overwhelmed by sound for the first
two/three weeks or so. I can't send him to camp all summer because
of the FFW therapy. And, he'll need tutoring. Do I throw into the
starting school mix chelation? Still, ALA just seems so much safer
then anything else I have read about.

That is why I'm so reluctant to go with a DAN! doctor. My friend
who is chelating now has already told me a little bit about her
son's protocol. It seems like a lot more aggressive. He regresses,
then improves. Though now, he seems more like he is maintaining???
He's very sensitive and has been doing it for many years. So I
think he uses a cream every week, and will have to for the rest of
his life.

This is turning into a book! Sorry, I needed to get it off my chest.
How is your day? Is it raining a lot? Also, do you use a DAN!
doctor?

One more thing, my best friend lives in Fort Mill, SC, and she has a
great support group. (Her son is an Aspie). I'll call her this
weekend to get contact 411 if anyone wants it. She is "thinking"
about mercury and such, but her FIL is a King of Aspiness type
Aspie, so she strongly feels it is genetic. I'm going to work on
her as I see results (hopefully). I'll tell her about the
conference, too.

Thank you!
Sio
--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, SS110102@a... wrote:
> Sio,
>
>        I am inbetween where you are and charolette, I understand
your
> situation other than you have farther to drive. I hope your
children have a wonderful
> time at camp and that after words your son does well in his
program. I am
> sure that if there is a confrence out that way someone on the
board will let us
> know. Did you have a good night?
>
> Stacy
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Forget it.  I shouldn't have even posted this notice.  My husband and
I listened to Rush's show via his website.  He had 2 callers re:
Asperger's.  One Mom who was trying to tell Rush about her son.
Rush kept interrupting her and said.."sounds like your son has
Turret's" "Is this just another syndrome like restless leg syndrome?"
Then another adult man called in and said "hi rush..from all the
aspie's in america" "I've never been diagnosed, but I'm pretty sure I
have asperger's and am happy about it.  My son is autistic as well"
Well Rush just took this guy to the cleaners and told him he was
using Asperger's as something to hide behind as an excuse for not
living up to his full potential, esp. since he never got a diagnosis.
It wasn't even worth tuning in...waste of time....don't listen to it.

JTF


--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "Debi" <fightingautism@y...>
wrote:
> I'm not a subscriber, can you give the main theme of his show? Was
> he supportive of autism? I've got a fax about Leland movie I've
been
> meaning to send into his show, hoping he might cover it.
>
> Debi
>
> --- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "sjmj1177" <fitz77jm@a...>
> wrote:
> > Whether you like him or not...Rush Limbaugh got such an
> overwhelming
> > response to a caller earlier this week who mentioned Asperber's
> > Syndrome that he decided to devote an entire segment of today's
> show
> > on the topic.  Click on his website below and listen to today's
> > show...you may have to skip forward until you get the spot where
> he
> > fields calls from parents about their Asperger kids.
> >
> >
> > http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/
> > click near the top tab blue/yellow where is says.."4/30 archived
> > show."

See, there are indeed plenty of famous people out there. The only problem is
getting them involved in the mercury issue. Maybe some mass e-mails and letters
to them would get them off their butts.

Jane

Gracie Montgomery <faithgracehope2001@...> wrote:
Sylvester Stallone's son IS autistic. He was on the front cover of a magazine
with his son, in a story about autism, quite awhile ago (maybe 20 years or so).







jane milota <autismjtm@...> wrote:
John Travolta for one and Anthony Edwards (Dr. Greene from ER) is actively
involved with CAN (Cure Autism Now). I do believe Sylvester Stallone's son is
autistic but it may just be rumors.

Jane

Gracie Montgomery <faithgracehope2001@...> wrote:
Do you know who the famous people are who are dealing with autism?

jane milota <autismjtm@...> wrote:Getting to John Kerry is not going to
work. I went to the Unlocking Autism conference in DC last week and the
chairperson for the national democratic committee was there. She informed us
that John Kerry would not take a public stand on autism because if he did that,
he would have to take a stand on behalf of all the other disabilities in our
nation. People got pretty mad about this and started saying that autism is the
only disability at epidemic levels but it did no good.
I absolutely loved your other ideas - I just wish I had a couple of million
dollars to make reality of them.
There ARE famous people out there dealing with autism - I just don't know what
their stand on the mercury issue is. Unfortunately I think they have to be
"politically correct" in their line of work so they may not want to get involved
(I most certainly don't agree with this).

Jane

TamiFreedman@... wrote:

Dear AMY and MOMS AGAINST MERCURY!

CONGRATS and BLESSINGS for the BILLBOARD near CDC.

Next, is it possible to create an ACTION EMAIL GROUP -- similar to
Autism-Mercury for TAKING ACTION to stop this atrocity of Mercury Poisoning of
our kids.

Actions like:
1) Marches against CDC, FDA, White House, Senator Frist, etc.
2) more Billboards,
3) Blanketing Washington with Dr. Stephanie Cave's book What Your Doctor May
Not Tell You about CHILDRENS VACCINES -- or other package put together that
quickly and definitively tell the mercury vaccine autism/etc story.
4) finding a Celebrity spokesperson
5) getting PSA (public service announcements) with Celebrity spokesperson
made and put on tv to air free. (need non-profit group
doing educating of public, like explaining how chelating may help, etc)
6) Raising money for some of this with Celebrity auction
7) MILLION MARCH ON WASHINGTON!!!
8) really starting to work our Reps and Senators (might need a group in
Washington to be our contact)
9) this is an election season -- can anyone get to John Kerry??
10) can anyone get to someone at CNN or Dateline , etc and pitch the story of
their child, along with sending the book by Dr. Cave and relevant package.
11) If someone is going to Washington, could Mom's Against Mercury provide
them with a package to take to their Rep/Senators.
(I'm from TN and my two Republican Senators hold a weekly -- every Tues
they're in town -- Constituent Breakfast for Tennesseans who come to Washington
--
get to visit and get pictures with Frist and Alexander, short spiel time.
12) sample letters to editor that everyone can personalize and send to their
editor/paper,  plus trying to make contact with local editors and give them
packet (Mom's against mercury might have such) with local angle and local
stories.



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Donna, where did you get this from? How old is it? That was one heck of a
motivator. I will definitely be writing to her and I hope many others will too.
Thank you soooo much for posting the information.

Jane

Donna <dma_nc1@...> wrote:
Statement from Barbra Striesand...

"If we can't trust our Administration to tell the truth and our
media to report the truth, then it's up to us to demand the truth –
again and again.  I know so many people are working two jobs to make
their rent and have little energy or inclination left to question
what they hear.  But people need to wake up.  If we don't, this
world will be anything but safer for our children and our children's
children.  We have to be vigilant and not buy what they are telling
us just because they say it again and again. For the Bush
administration, truth seems to be irrelevant.  It can't and
shouldn't be for us. "

Please write and tell your story on how your child was poisoned by
mercury from the vaccines!

She doesnt have an email address, But here is her mailing address..

Barbra Streisand
c/o Martin Erlichman Associates, Inc.
5670 Wilshire Boulevard, Suite 2400
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I "believe" that many autism orgainizations (ASA CAN)- receive
funding from pharmaceutical companies. Those that do are conspicously
silent, or at least misleading, on the vaccine/autism issue. If you
visit their web site you will find the same old "no causal
relationship has been proven" mantra. Unfortunately, this ultimately
suppresses discussion of biomed interventions that could assist many
spectrum children and wastes a substantial amount of time and
resources.

Maybe they could just distribute the $2.7 billion to autistic
families and let them pursue treatments they find beneficial - OOPS
now I'm being "quirky"! :)





--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, TamiFreedman@a... wrote:
>
> In the article about Baffled Researchers getting $2.7 BILLION to do
a 20 year
> study of tv habits and etc, i have one additional question.  When
the writer
> went to Mary Powell, director of Autism Society of Minnesota,
wasn't that the
> greatest opportunity for "our" side to get the word out about
MERCURY
> POISONING???  Why didn't she say something?
> She's director of the Autism Society for goodness sakes.  Can't we
have a
> meeting of ALL the State Directors of Autism Societys and have them
start trying
> to put the words MERCURY POISONING into EVERY SENTENCE of EVERY
> INTERVIEW????????
>
> Thanks, Tami
>
> Here's the quote where the article had the perfect opportunity to
really say
> something from the informed side:
>
> > > Mary Powell, director of the Autism Society of Minnesota, would
> > > welcome some answers. In the past 15 years, she has seen an
> > explosion
> > > in the number of Minnesota kids diagnosed with autism-related
> > > conditions, from about 100 children to nearly 3,000. Some of
that
> > > growth reflects better diagnosis of autism, but she suspects
> > > something else is happening, too -- with troubling
consequences.
> > >
> > > The root cause of autism is "the nagging question forever for
> > > parents," Powell said, "because they're always saying, 'If
> there's
> > > something I could have done.' That's a very profound question
in
> > > parents' minds because they never get rid of the feeling that,
> > > somehow, the course of their children's life could have been
> > > different."
>
> (From here the article goes into asthma and off into other
subjects).
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Stacey,

Amalgams are the silver types of fillings.  Has David ever had a
cavity?  If so, is the filling dark and silvery?  You shouldn't give
him the ALA if he has any silver fillings.

I'm in the process of getting Liam's bad fillings out right now.
After he gets the last filling out, then I have to wait three months
to start giving him the ALA (if I remember correctly).

Also, if you want to use Andy Cutler's ALA protocol, or dosage and
schedule, then read the FAQ section that you should have gotten as
an email when you joined the list.  I think if you ask, people on
the board will help you decide how much ALA to give him based on his
weight.  What schedule are you going to use?  How often are you
going to give it to him hours wise, and how many days on/off?

Sio
Who wants to know all your results, girlie, once you start giving
him the ALA!!!


--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, SS110102@a... wrote:
> I have bought ALA but do not plan to use it until he has all his
tests done
> and we have the results....Thank you I will keep that term in mind
when we do
> the testing so that they actually do it.
>
> stacy
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

One of my ABA tutors has just informed me that that she is going to
work for a hospital in an ABA clinic and her rubella titres came
back low and the hospital requires her to have a Rubella vaccination.

SHE SAYS that someone in Employee Health assured her that she is
getting ONLY the Rubella vaccination, but then she told me that they
want her to be on her period because the rubella virus is live.
From what *I've* read, the MEASLES portion of the MMR is LIVE, not
rubella or mumps, so I'm assuming the Employee Health is misinformed
(or lied to her) and that the tutor will get an MMR.

My three children, (one is autistic), all had complete first rounds
of vaccinations, but I've stopped vaccinating.  No boosters.  (My
twins will begin kindergarten in fall.)

Will our family be at any risk by being exposed to a person who has
taken the rubella vaccine or the MMR vaccine?  If so, how long do we
have to stay away from her?

I don't know about the risk to your family, but your tutor should look into the
risks to her future children from her taking the MMR shot.  She should read Dr.
Yazbak's paper at Redflagsweekly.  -KIM
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: penelope_fam
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   Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 9:25 AM
   Subject: [Autism-Mercury] ABA tutor is getting a Rubella vaccination


   One of my ABA tutors has just informed me that that she is going to
   work for a hospital in an ABA clinic and her rubella titres came
   back low and the hospital requires her to have a Rubella vaccination.

   SHE SAYS that someone in Employee Health assured her that she is
   getting ONLY the Rubella vaccination, but then she told me that they
   want her to be on her period because the rubella virus is live.
   From what *I've* read, the MEASLES portion of the MMR is LIVE, not
   rubella or mumps, so I'm assuming the Employee Health is misinformed
   (or lied to her) and that the tutor will get an MMR.

   My three children, (one is autistic), all had complete first rounds
   of vaccinations, but I've stopped vaccinating.  No boosters.  (My
   twins will begin kindergarten in fall.)

   Will our family be at any risk by being exposed to a person who has
   taken the rubella vaccine or the MMR vaccine?  If so, how long do we
   have to stay away from her?



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Sio,

        David has seen a dentist one time and that was when he was 2yrs....He
has no fillings, no cavities....Finding a dentist that won't freak David out
is going to be hard....I can't even take him to get his hair cut. I have to do
it and then it takes an hour. I only have him on the vitimans right now and
won't do the Chelation until he is tested for everything....Thank you for the
heads up..

Stacy


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I told her there are risks to future children. Didn't know where to
get that info, tho. thx

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "frank sabel" <sawyera@a...>
wrote:
> I don't know about the risk to your family, but your tutor should
look into the risks to her future children from her taking the MMR
shot.  She should read Dr. Yazbak's paper at Redflagsweekly.  -KIM
>   ----- Original Message -----

This is very true.  That is why the video evidence from parents is so very
important.  In 20 years hopefully all of our children will be recovered and so
the defense will say, "They were never effected, just misdiagnosed."  The home
movies will show otherwise.  -KIM
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   From: rokybird
   To: Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 11:51 PM
   Subject: [Autism-Mercury] Legally Speaking


     When you dont have a case the three most important principles are:
      Delay, delay, and delay. 20 years of research is a lot of Delaying.



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--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, Momlaw@a... wrote:
> Greetings all,
>
> Those of you having gone beyond 50 rounds of chelation--say, 60 or
70--could
> you all weigh in on the benefits seen after this mark?  I know Dana
has said
> she didn't see some gains until after 60 rounds.
>
> Has anyone done 100 or more rounds?


I have probably done 100 rounds by now, altho I stopped counting after
round 84.  I use ALA.

Here are a few markers:

After round 10, he lost his phenol intolerance.

After round 50, he started tolerating supplements and no longer had
yeast problems.

After round 70, he started tolerating things which were supposed to be
an "inborn error of metabolism".

After round 84 [which was a 4-week-long round], he tolerated all foods
and I had to remove supplements because he started not tolerating
them, which for my son meant that he no longer needed them.

For cognitive increases, you can read this page

http://www.danasview.net/myson.htm

I do maintenance rounds now.

During round 84, I also did high dose vitamin A protocol, plus added
OLE.  After round 84, I added Lauricidin.

Dana

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, SS110102@a... wrote:
> Thank you Dana.....I will do this...How long do I wait inbetween
starting
> Vitamins?


Until you are sure whatever you added is helping your child, and not
causing problems.  For my son, this was about a week.

Dana

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "tracyerandolph"
<minutiae7@a...> wrote:
> Just got back test results which indicate that my son is a good
> candidate for the vit. a measles treatment. I've read the info at
> your site (thanks!!). I don't know if the doses are supposed to be
> split up over the course of the day (3x day?) OR one BIG dose of
> 400,000 IU at one time for each day.


I did it as 3 doses during the day.

Dr. McCandless has speculated [not confirmed] that a single dose each
day would *probably* be more effective.

I had to do the protocol twice, the second time at higher dose, before
it worked.  So perhaps her speculation is correct?


> Also, what kind of OLE do you use, liquid or capsules?


Capsules.  I don't use it any more, but I used capsules when I used it.

Dana

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "jplanet94" <jplanet94@y...> wrote:
> I wrote in here a few weeks ago that after only two chelation rounds
> my son Adam (8yo, Dx ADHD/Asperger's) had stopped his compulsive non-
> stop talking.  It just returned this week after our last round of
> chelation (finished this past Monday).  I'm pretty sure he doesn't
> have yeast, or at least not badly.
>
> Is this normal?  Should I not worry?  We've only done a total of four
> rounds (ALA/DMSA);


For my son, regression like this could have meant a few things.  1)
yeast, 2) I needed to remove a supplement, 3) this virus issues
started increasing.

Dana

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "netbaroque" <netbaroque@y...>
wrote:
> It binds metals including mercury. It scavenges free radicals.

Uh oh...I have a mouth full of amalgams and have been taking high
doses of grape seed extract for almost 8 months as per my ND's
recommendation. I have a high free radical load and that was part of
my protocol to lighten the load. Grapeseed extract is usually taken
for the proanthocyanins, just like pine bark. Do you happen to know
if it's the proanthocyanins in pine bark that chelate mercury?

I was also taking ALA for free radical scavenging too - it seems like
I'm running out of safe antioxidants to take prior to my amalgam
removal!


Suze

I find myself accepting the model wherein most physicians rely on
trade-journals like the AAP's "Pediatrics" and rely on the CDC's ACIP,
which has a huge email list to physicians. Information distributed
within "Pediatrics" and within the CDC's ACIP's newletter is like Gospel
(regardless of brand of faith). Thus when the CDC fudges data and even
is caught not only diluting the data but also is caught declaring the
usefulness of fudging the data, those facts are not spread via the major
media. And to further the injury, editors, publishers, and major
stockholders (if any) of the journal "Pediatrics" appear to have
deliberately allied themselves with the data-fudgers within the CDC. A
pediatrician who relies upon the printed version of "Pediatrics"
apparently won't even have read the Geier and Geier rebuttal that the
journal posted on in its website. The power of the Church of Vaccinology
is extreme, as evidenced also by the MMR recantions - recantations not
of the gut pathology nor of vaccinal MV within that gut pathology, but
instead recantations of an Idea, a hypothesis that the MMR, the gut
pathology, and autism may be etiologically linked in some
children.Apparently, most physicians remain loyal to the Fuhrers and
High Priests of Vaccine Zealotry.

Teresa

jromkema wrote:

>Hey All,
>
>My hubby and I were just talking about this last night.  Maybe some of you
>docs on the list can answer this? Why are the docs who are figuring out the
>line they've been given, and realizing that all these kids may have been
>hurt by the vaccines they administered, why are they not MAD at an industry
>that continues to manufacture this stuff?  My hubby is another James
>Herriot, and he says that anytime they have defective vaccine or any type of
>reactions, they immediately contact the vaccine company and TURN THE STUFF
>IN for new vaccines.  The companies are quick to make things right with the
>farmers.  They don't want to lose their business!  Besides, the vets have to
>know that the stuff they are using is good.
>
>So why are the docs not leading the way on this one and DEMANDING that the
>vaccines they are using are safe????
>
>Barb
>
>
>

You are SO lucky not to have to worry about the amalgams!  I so wish
we didn't have that extra hurtle.

Sio

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, SS110102@a... wrote:
> Sio,
>
>        David has seen a dentist one time and that was when he was
2yrs....He
> has no fillings, no cavities....Finding a dentist that won't freak
David out
> is going to be hard....I can't even take him to get his hair cut.
I have to do
> it and then it takes an hour. I only have him on the vitimans
right now and
> won't do the Chelation until he is tested for everything....Thank
you for the
> heads up..
>
> Stacy
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Great! Now how do I get him to take it? He won't take it by mouth, I put it
in his drink and he takes the lid off of the cup and dumps it....I try to hide
it in his food , and then he desides He doesnt want to eat....I don't know
what to do! He is a mess!

Stacy


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After perusing the TV-ADHD paper, a genetic analyst pointed out the risk
value of 1.09 for a TV-ADHD connection, whereas the CDC's original
(pre-fudged) findings found a risk value of 2.48 for autism after
thimerosal injections just up to 6 months (thus not including RhoGam,
amalgams, or later shots). In other words, thimerosal was more than
twice as likely to induce autism as excessive TV-watching is to induce
ADHD. That "Pediatric$" touted the ADHD-TV connection seems to be
another example of directing attention away from environmental pollution
and from dangerous injections and from the well published findings that
some individuals have increased susceptibility to adverse effects.

Teresa

TamiFreedman@... wrote:

>In the article about Baffled Researchers getting $2.7 BILLION to do a 20 year
>study of tv habits and etc, i have one additional question.  When the writer
>went to Mary Powell, director of Autism Society of Minnesota, wasn't that the
>greatest opportunity for "our" side to get the word out about MERCURY
>POISONING???  Why didn't she say something?
>She's director of the Autism Society for goodness sakes.  Can't we have a
>meeting of ALL the State Directors of Autism Societys and have them start
trying
>to put the words MERCURY POISONING into EVERY SENTENCE of EVERY
>INTERVIEW????????
>
>Thanks, Tami
>
>Here's the quote where the article had the perfect opportunity to really say
>something from the informed side:
>
>
>
>>>Mary Powell, director of the Autism Society of Minnesota, would
>>>welcome some answers. In the past 15 years, she has seen an
>>>
>>>
>>explosion
>>
>>
>>>in the number of Minnesota kids diagnosed with autism-related
>>>conditions, from about 100 children to nearly 3,000. Some of that
>>>growth reflects better diagnosis of autism, but she suspects
>>>something else is happening, too -- with troubling consequences.
>>>
>>>The root cause of autism is "the nagging question forever for
>>>parents," Powell said, "because they're always saying, 'If
>>>
>>>
>there's
>
>
>>>something I could have done.' That's a very profound question in
>>>parents' minds because they never get rid of the feeling that,
>>>somehow, the course of their children's life could have been
>>>different."
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>


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--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "AJ Wilson" <Ajwilson@i...>
wrote:
> This idea of rubbing the oil onto the body got me thinking.  I use
garlic
> oil (crushed garlic soaked in olive oil for 1 hour to forever) on
my kids
> when they are sick.

Just an FYI that garlic in olive oil can grow botulism unless you
add  something acidic like vinegar or lemon. We were just discussing
this on native-nutrition recently. Just something to be aware of. I
know lots of people do oil and garlic infusions with no noticeable
problems, but it doesn't mean it can't happen, or hasn't happened
without them being aware they had botulism.

http://www.colostate.edu/orgs/safefood/NEWSLTR/v2n4s08.html

Several cases of botulism involving garlic-in-oil preparations
brought this hazard to light in the 1980's. In 1985, Vancouver, BC,
37 people got botulism from a garlic-in-oil preparation. This was
followed by a 1988 laboratory investigation into the survival of and
toxin production by C botulinum in garlic-in-oil preparations. In
1989, 3 people in Kingston, NY, became ill, also from a garlic-in-oil
infusion. Thus, in 1989 the FDA issued a ruling, ordering the removal
from store shelves of all commercial garlic-in-oil preparations that
lacked an acidifying agent, followed by a mandate requiring the
addition of an acidifying agent (such as phosphoric or citric acid)
to all commercial garlic-in-oil preparations. Acid prevents the
growth of the C botulinum, so any spores that might be present in an
infusion will not be able to flourish and produce toxin. The acid
must be added as the recipe is being prepared.

Suze

Well...we are going to have to start a new church, like they did in the
middle ages.  Too many of our children have been sacrificed on the altar of
false beliefs.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Teresa Binstock" <binstock@...>
To: <Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Autism-Mercury] Why are the DOCTORS not leading the battle on
this one!


> I find myself accepting the model wherein most physicians rely on
> trade-journals like the AAP's "Pediatrics" and rely on the CDC's ACIP,
> which has a huge email list to physicians. Information distributed
> within "Pediatrics" and within the CDC's ACIP's newletter is like Gospel
> (regardless of brand of faith). Thus when the CDC fudges data and even
> is caught not only diluting the data but also is caught declaring the
> usefulness of fudging the data, those facts are not spread via the major
> media. And to further the injury, editors, publishers, and major
> stockholders (if any) of the journal "Pediatrics" appear to have
> deliberately allied themselves with the data-fudgers within the CDC. A
> pediatrician who relies upon the printed version of "Pediatrics"
> apparently won't even have read the Geier and Geier rebuttal that the
> journal posted on in its website. The power of the Church of Vaccinology
> is extreme, as evidenced also by the MMR recantions - recantations not
> of the gut pathology nor of vaccinal MV within that gut pathology, but
> instead recantations of an Idea, a hypothesis that the MMR, the gut
> pathology, and autism may be etiologically linked in some
> children.Apparently, most physicians remain loyal to the Fuhrers and
> High Priests of Vaccine Zealotry.
>
> Teresa
>
> jromkema wrote:
>
> >Hey All,
> >
> >My hubby and I were just talking about this last night.  Maybe some of
you
> >docs on the list can answer this? Why are the docs who are figuring out
the
> >line they've been given, and realizing that all these kids may have been
> >hurt by the vaccines they administered, why are they not MAD at an
industry
> >that continues to manufacture this stuff?  My hubby is another James
> >Herriot, and he says that anytime they have defective vaccine or any type
of
> >reactions, they immediately contact the vaccine company and TURN THE
STUFF
> >IN for new vaccines.  The companies are quick to make things right with
the
> >farmers.  They don't want to lose their business!  Besides, the vets have
to
> >know that the stuff they are using is good.
> >
> >So why are the docs not leading the way on this one and DEMANDING that
the
> >vaccines they are using are safe????
> >
> >Barb
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, SS110102@a... wrote:
> Great! Now how do I get him to take it? He won't take it by mouth, I
put it
> in his drink and he takes the lid off of the cup and dumps it....I
try to hide
> it in his food , and then he desides He doesnt want to eat....I
don't know
> what to do! He is a mess!


Ideas

http://www.enzymestuff.com/discussionmixing.htm

Dana

What are amalgams? does that have to do with fillings in the teeth?


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New links I have added since my last site update

Homeschooling children who "aut" to be home
http://home.earthlink.net/~tammyglaser798/authome.html

Learning in Freedom
http://learninfreedom.org/

Socialization: A Great Reason Not to Go to School
http://learninfreedom.org/socialization.html

Official PANDAS page
http://intramural.nimh.nih.gov/research/pdn/web.htm

Dr. Rapp's site
http://www.drrapp.com/

Autism and Thomas the Tank Engine
http://www.myfavoritetoys.com/autism_thomas.php

DAN Overview of Autism Causes
http://www.autism.com/ari/dan/science/Pangborn.htm

No Milk
http://www.nomilk.com/

NAET
http://www.naet.com

Bioset
http://www.bioset-institute.com/about/bioset.asp

NorthStar Foundation
http://www.northstardogs.com/

Arf Kids
http://www.arfkids.com/

Dana

I have spent the last year contacting Minnesota officials and media about
neurodevelopmental damage from mercury in vaccines. Their failure to respond
brings to mind Hannah Arendt's 1960s observations about "the banality of evil."

Resistance to scientific truth about mercury damage comes down to these factors:
      Denial, fear, ignorance, apathy, hubris.

I have frequently e-mailed Mary Powell, director of the Autism Society of
Minnesota
(AuSM). Their small office is short-staffed; of the four times I've called,
twice no one
has answered the phone. Ms. Powell probably fears losing funding by speaking
out.
I also assume denial plays a part in her failure to advocate against mercury;
the truth
is hard to swallow, and has painful, far-reaching implications. Dealing with it
also means
lots more work.

On May 18 Dr. Mark Geier and David Geier will be in Minneapolis to present the
overwhelming evidence showing the causal relationship of vaccine mercury to the
epidemic of autism. Ms. Powell has been invited to this and other presentations.

It has become tragically apparent to me that litigation is the only way to get
people in
industry and government to realize the error of their ways. These people have
been
notified about mercury damage in children. Government and nonprofit agencies
should
be notifying parents that they should be testing and treating their children for
the mental
and physical effects of mercury toxicity.

A year ago I would never have said this, but we've reached the last resort.
      I urge all parents to SUE. LITIGATE. That gets people's attention.

Let's take these unresponsive, irresponsible agencies to court, so our children
can finally
get justice, and countless other mismedicated children can get appropriate
physical
treatment for a mislabeled mental illness. No longer should these agencies
ignore our
children's medical records in favor of falsified epidemiological manipulations.

Science and truth are on our side.

Nancy Hokkanen
Minneapolis