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Re: [Autism-Mercury] Re: NDF

A little more feedback about my son........ . I wrote about the NDF earlier in
the week. Again last night we were remarking at how well my son is doing. I
dont know what it could be from besides drops......I cant figure it out. But
everyone around him is noticing how well he is doing right now, all of recent.
He is being more social, followed a few subtle social cues yesterday (amazing to
me and therapist) and has improved receptive language resposes. My mother came
over last night and couldn't get over it. My mom sees him about every two
weeks. I realize people can be individual in their responses. I can drink a
half a beer and I am under the table. LOL. So, maybe responder below has
different sensitivities as well. What is minimum dosage??? My son is only
doing three drops under the tongue--building very slowly. His body must like
something he is getting from it. Havent changed anything else so as to
eliminate confusion. Tracy
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Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 6:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Autism-Mercury] Re: NDF


Just my personal experience. I got much worse on
the minimum dose of Ndf - nausea, shortened breath,
etc. that lasted on and off for over a month. Dr.
Cheney is no longer using Ndf because it produced such
variable results in his patients and I believe (my
memory is a little fuzzy here) because tests did not
not show efficacy. He still use chlorella (bio ru
rella) as his primary chelating agent. He considers
chlorella the safest - if the longest term -chelator.

-- andya69 <andyg@...> wrote:
> Just a thought but it is very possible that it is
> all the strains of
> good bacteria in the NDF that are causing the
> improvements.
>
> Tracy
>
>
> --- In Autism-Mercury@y..., "TnT Pilger"
> <tntpilger@e...> wrote:
> > I have been on this group for a long time. I have
> chelated my son
> for approximately 15 rounds using Andy's suggestions
> with first DMSA
> and than ALA at a 3-4 hr protocol and appropraite
> dosage etc. Did it
> work....absolutely. We were having lots of problems
> w/ yeast but we
> would treat and show improvement etc. I have a
> couple of friends who
> have used NDF and saaw remarkable improvement in
> their boys as well.
> You have to remove all chlorine exposure. I decided
> after a lot of
> contemplating to try these drops. I used a low dose
> only once a day
> after making sure I removed as much chlorine
> exposure as possible--
> this was a couple of months ago BTW. We have used
> the drops for 12
> days now. Six days after we started them, started
> on a thurs and had
> an IEP meeting the next tues and both th e speech
> therapist and the
> teacher said he seemed especially clear and
> attentive this week,
> better than they had seen him this whole school
> year. I have not
> changed a single other factor besides the drops. I
> asked my husband
> this morning if he really thought my son was doing
> well right now and
> my engineering minded husband said to me
> "Well.....duh. Of course he
> is. Look how clear headed that kid has been." I am
> feeling the same
> way and his response time and ability to answer my
> questions and
> volunteer info to me has shown noticeable
> improvement.
> >
> > Having sat here for a long time and followed the
> encouraged
> protocol and attested to our good results minus gut
> issues, I belive
> it is only fair to report my results so far with
> NDF, even though it
> may not be so popular with some of you.
> But.....this is what I am
> seeing, my husband, the spee ch therapist and his
> teacher. This
> doesnt mean rush out and try it, this means keep
> your mind a little
> open till we really know. I will update future
> progress for those
> interested, Tracy
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
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In a message dated 30/10/2002 00:57:37 GMT Standard Time, mamommy2001@... ... Kills the good gut flora and some other iffy stuff which I can't recall NMH...
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A little more feedback about my son........ . I wrote about the NDF earlier in the week. Again last night we were remarking at how well my son is doing. I...
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Where did you buy your NDF? Thanks. Vicky ... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/files/Mercury-Autism%20FAQ ... ...
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Nov 1, 2002
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Concerning NDF: One has reported a bad reaction, others more favorable. Maybe one source has a better product than another? A bad reaction reported from use...
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Nov 1, 2002
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Concerning NDF: One has reported a bad reaction, others more favorable. Maybe one source has a better product than another? A bad reaction reported from use...
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Hi Rosie, As far as I know BioRay NDF is the only NDF, invented by Timmothy Ray of BioRay. My guess is, that either this product is not understood well enough...
Dagmar
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Nov 2, 2002
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Andy, I have never used NDF or given it as my first recommendation for use, and DAMS doesn't promote it that I'm aware of. But I'm aware that they have a lot...
Bernard Windham
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... for use, and DAMS doesn't promote it that I'm aware of. Did you read your most recent DAMS newsletter? ... of use, and posted test results, etc. And I...
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... Bernie, Could you explain just what you meant by "saunas can have high levels of mercury"? By "results" - is this a study and could you reference the...
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Andy or anyone, anyone know a URL to find the post that Andy refered to on effectiveness of NDF? Bernie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
Bernard Windham
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... effectiveness of NDF? ... I do not. But I can tell you how I would find it if I had to: 1. go to the messages page 2. search on "NDF" 3. scan the results...
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Hi there I used the NDF on my child but with no results and no change in any of his behaiviour....
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... If you would say a little about how long you used the NDF, this would be helpful. best wishes, Moria...
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also, what dosage and time of day? ... ===== Suzanne M. Schwarz __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful....
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Which is what a reasonable person would expect, since it doesn't really do anything other than make your wallet a lot thinner. Andy . . .. . . . . . .. . . . ....
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Dear Friend NDF as I read is 10 times stronger than DMSA plus my son took it every day for 2 months non stop not as the few days break in DMSA. So if you count...
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10 times!! Yikes. An N.D. I have been speaking with estimated that daily NDF has about the same overall rate of mercury removal as following the DAN!...
Bart Hickman
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NDF is ineffective and removes no heavy metals. This is conclusively proven by the manufacturer's own data. It does cause some apparent immune or adrenal...
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I tried NDF for a month or so and then stopped for a month. A naturopathic doctor tested my urine before and after taking a full dropperful. There was less...
Janet McAuley
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Hi Group, I wanted to let anyone who might be interested know that I have a 4 oz. bottle of NDF that is unopened that I would be happy to sell at a reasonable ...
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I am very financially challenged. How much are you asking for the opened bottle? thank you, julie ... -- Health * Peace * Love * 4Ever @..@ (----) ( >__< )...
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Has anyone used the NDF product with success?...
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Yes i have used it successfully to worsen my condition....
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at least you have not lost your sense of humor :)...
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Thank you. After the NDF I used ALA successfully to improve my condition. I hope other people can learn from my mistake....
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