--- In Autism-Mercury@y..., "mgen27" <mgen27@e...> wrote:
> Hi Andy,
>
> Some questions about interpreting the Toxic Elements results when
> mineral transport seems normal:
>
> How does one know what "elevated" means when the reference ranges
are
> arbitrary (are they not)?


The reference ranges are NOT arbitrary. DDI is one of the few labs
that uses PROPERLY DETERMINED ranges, which is to say green is less
than 1 standard deviation above average, yellow is 1-2 standard
deviations above average, and red is more than 2 standard deviations
above average. This is how labs are SUPPOSED to standardize tests.
Most don't for toxic metals. DDI, and a few others (GSDL, TEI, etc)
did.

>
> Is the appearance of ANY mercury, even within the reference range,
> significant?

It depends on other factors. Even a high-ish level may not be
significant in someone relatively tolerant of it.

>
> Dr. Holmes told me that some very highly mercury-toxic kids show NO
> MERCURY on the Toxic Elements portion,

Correct. All these kids, however, DO show an essential elements
portion that satisfies the counting rules as far as indicating
disordered mineral transport.

> so that the appearance of ANY
> mercury is significant. (She based her mercury-toxic diagnosis of
my
> daughter, however, on several test results, including the MetaMetrix
> Urine Organix Profile.)

Why not post that?

Note that MANY heavy metals zap the relevant enzymes so anyone with
any heavy metal problem should light that test up like a christmas
tree.

>
> My daughter's mineral transport is normal, according to your
> assessment (you told me to look at the Toxic Elements portion),

When mineral transport is normal, that means the toxic elements
accurately represent what is in her body. Thus low mercury there
means low mercury in the body. There can be some in the brain and not
the body, but that really is not something you'd expect to see until
adulthood, with someone exposed as a child who then grew up without
any further exposure.

> although she does meet the counting rules criteria for abnormality
on
> at least 1 count. Her mercury on the Toxic Elements portion
> is .23ug/g, ref. = <.4, about 60% into the green band.
>
> How could she show ANY mercury on a hair test that was taken 3 years
> after her last known mercury insult (vaccination and nursing) when
> the hair specimen submitted was about an inch next to the scalp,
i.e.
> about 2 month-old hair?

There is mercury in air, water, and food. Everyone receives some
exposure every day. The question is how much.

> Even if one were to assume that the mercury
> came from environmental sources, wouldn't the mercury-toxic kids
show
> it more often too?

No, because if it comes from any source they don't put it in their
hair - their mineral transporting biochemistry is out of whack.

>(Dr. Holmes said many of them show nothing on the
> Toxic portion.)
>
> Thanks for the time and answers.
>
> Mireille
>
>
> --- In Autism-Mercury@y..., "andrewhallcutler" <AndyCutler@a...>
> wrote:
> > The essential elements do not satisfy the counting rules,
> suggesting
> > that mineral transport is normal and healthy.
> >
> > That given, the elevated toxic elements may well be real.
> >
> > Bismuth is known to induce encephalopathy. It is worth checking
> into
> > these.
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > --- In Autism-Mercury@y..., "autismzone" <autismzone@y...> wrote:
> > > List,Please Help!We have received our DDI hair test results!!!
> We
> > do
> > > have 2 red toxic elements and 2 red essential elements. I did
the
> > > counting rules and it looks like my child is not mercury toxic.
> > > Could someone please double check for me in case I am reading it
> > > wrong. I have been reading this list deligently EVERYDAY since
> June
> > > of 2001 in preparation for chelation but now do we need to do
> > > chelation???? Is above average only the red range or does it
> > include
> > > the yellow too-green is good, right?(in the reference range)?
We
> > > give our son Epsom Salt baths every other night and I think this
> may
> > > have impacted his red off the page Magnesium - his sulfur was
> green
> > > though. Thank you to anyone who can help.
> > >
> > > My 3 year old autistic son's DDI hair results:
> > >
> > > Essential Elements (HIGH IS GOING TO RIGHT, LOW IS GOING TO
LEFT):
> > > ELEMENTS RESULTS COLOR HIGH/LOW REFERENCE RANGE
> > >
> > > Calcium 137 green low 125-370
> > > Magnesium 130 RED high 12-30
> > > Sodium 22 green low 12-90
> > > Potassium 13 green low 12-40
> > > Copper 13 green high 8.0-16
> > > Zinc 130 white middle dot 100-190
> > > Manganese 0.05 RED low 0.2-0.55
> > > Chromium 0.23 Yellow low 0.26-0.5
> > > Vanadium 0.053 white middle 0.03-0.1
> > > Molybdenum 0.061 green low 0.05-0.13
> > > Boron 1.4 green low 0.6-4.0
> > > Iodine 3.0 Yellow high 0.25-1.3
> > > Lithium 0.045 Yellow high 0.007-0.023
> > > Phosphorus 191 green low 160-250
> > > Selenium 0.89 Yellow low 0.95-1.7
> > > Strontium 0.69 green high 0.16-1.0
> > > Sulfur 52800 green high 45500-53000
> > > Barium 0.19 green low 0.16-0.8
> > > Cobalt 0.011 Yellow low 0.013-0.035
> > > Iron 6.6 Yellow low 8.0-19
> > > Germanium 0.051 green low 0.045-0.065
> > > Rubidium 0.015 Yellow low 0.016-0.18
> > > Zirconium 0.62 green high 0.04-1.0
> > >
> > > HIS POTENTIALLY TOXIC ELEMENTS
> > > TOXIC EL %COLOR RESULT REFERENCE RANGE
> > > Aluminum green 5.9 <8.0
> > > Antimony green .059 <.066
> > > Arsenic green .07 <.08
> > > Beryllium no color<.01 <.02
> > > Bismuth RED-OFF-PAGE-2.2 <.13
> > > Cadmium green .041 <.15
> > > Lead green .25 <1.0
> > > Mercury green .03 <.4
> > > Platinum no color<.0003 <.005
> > > Thallium no color<.001 <.01
> > > Thorium no color<.001 <.005
> > > Uranium green .017 <.06
> > > Nickel green .07 <.4
> > > Silver green .05 <.2
> > > Tin green .23 <.3
> > > Titanium RED 3.2 <1.0
> > > TOTAL TOXIC REPRESENTATION: Green but very close to yellow
> > >
> > > "Counting rules:
> > >
> > > The result is abnormal and suggests heavy metal intoxication if
> any
> > > of the following criteria are met:
> > >
> > > 1. The number of essential elements "very elevated" and "very
> low"
> > is
> > > 4 or more. {(Is this red only-we had 2 in red -1 low and 1 high,
> if
> > > we count the yellow it would add 7 more-2 high and 5 low)}
> > >
> > > 2. The number of essential elements entirely inside the middle
> band
> > > is 14 or less. {(white area? we had 2 in the white)}
> > >
> > > 3. The number of essential elements above average is EITHER 5 or
> > less
> > > OR it is 18 or more. {(Very confused here as to what is above
> > > average - We have 1 red high, 2 yellow high, and 6 green high -
> that
> > > would be 9 that are above the 50th percentile, is this
right??)}"
> > >
> > > Thank you in advance,