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Re: Encephalopathy looks like Autism- Bismuth High-Susan Owens?

> "What are you feeding him when I am not here, what are you doing
> different?" "Nothing different," I would say. We finally realized,
> the only difference was the nights he was home, he would give my son
> an Epsom Salt bath and let him soak for 25-30 minutes in it. We
> tested the theory by reversing it - me giving them to him when dad
> was working and not when dad was home (just one time though). It
> followed the theory. He threw up without the bath. Weird, I know.
> Coincidence-maybe.

Maybe. Maybe not. It is surprisingly hard to figure things out.

What sulfate does (among many other things) is to remove the
substances that act like adrenalin. Adrenalin is what you get when
you are anxious, excited, scared, etc., and as you know people do puke
from anxiety all the time. This is a known effect of adrenaline and
adrenaline like substances.

> This Autism Beast makes my head want to explode.
> My son's only toxic elements out of the green area were Bismuth and
> Titanium - both in red (no yellows). He had a pyruvate kinase RBC
> test done when he was 2 and it came back DETECTED and we were told
> that pointed to mercury toxicity.

Who said this?

> We have been convinced that this
> was it. Could his body have started to move it out on it's own?

Maybe. A lot more likely mercury was never there and bismuth was.

> I
> am going to do another hair test in a few months and see if anything
> is different. I looked at the tests Amy Holmes suggested and we
have
> done some of those and they did not match what would indicate
> mercury - in fact, some were opposite (high when low would indicate
> mercury, and others were normal). These tests were part of an
immune
> study we just completed. Any thought?

Do stuff about the bismuth or titanium, see what happes. I do NOT
know what to do, but trying some DMSA for the bismuth may help.

Andy
>
> Theresa, San Anto




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List,Please Help!We have received our DDI hair test results!!! We do have 2 red toxic elements and 2 red essential elements. I did the counting rules and it...
autismzone
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Jan 26, 2002
12:35 am

Hello Theresa, As I count this, I get: a. number very elevated or very low = 2 [yes-- this means red only] NORMAL b. number in middle band = 14 [this means...
Moria Merriweather
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Jan 26, 2002
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The essential elements do not satisfy the counting rules, suggesting that mineral transport is normal and healthy. That given, the elevated toxic elements may...
andrewhallcutler
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Jan 27, 2002
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I started researching Encephalopathy that Andy mentioned. Has anyone else's child tested high for Bismuth? Does this sound like autism? "Myalgic...
autismzone
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Jan 27, 2002
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Forgive me if I am wrong but it seems to me that according to the second criterium of counting rules (number of essental elements inside the middle band is 14...
igorginzburg
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Jan 27, 2002
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Yes, he has 14, with 2 that are barely yellows (right over the green into yellow). I was worried that his magnesium was incorrect since we give Epsom Salt...
autismzone
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Jan 27, 2002
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Hi Theresa, David's hair test shows antimony and silver in red, and aluminum, cadmium, lead,uranium in yellow. As I said, he had 14 essential elements in the...
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Jan 28, 2002
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Yes, I have been wondering about the Epsom Salt Baths normalizing things. I mentioned to Susan Owens once about a weird occurance. My son was sick on and off...
autismzone
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Jan 28, 2002
10:19 pm

Hi :) Haven't given my son Transfer Factor in over a year now. Thought I would try again since his immune system is haywire, ONCE again.,.Thought I'd ask the...
Shari
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... Maybe. Maybe not. It is surprisingly hard to figure things out. What sulfate does (among many other things) is to remove the substances that act like...
andrewhallcutler
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Hi, My son's Bismuth was off the charts as well. In fact this was the highest marker on the test. I just thought it was because of mercury poisoning. It...
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Jan 28, 2002
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Hi Andy, Some questions about interpreting the Toxic Elements results when mineral transport seems normal: How does one know what "elevated" means when the...
mgen27
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Jan 28, 2002
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... are ... The reference ranges are NOT arbitrary. DDI is one of the few labs that uses PROPERLY DETERMINED ranges, which is to say green is less than 1...
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