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Re: Encephalopathy looks like Autism- Bismuth High-Susan Owens?

Yes, I have been wondering about the Epsom Salt Baths normalizing
things. I mentioned to Susan Owens once about a weird occurance. My
son was sick on and off with a virus (throwing up and runny BMs) for
4 weeks. He was only throwing up at night when my husband was at
work (he is a firefighter and works a very busy schedule of one 24 hr
shift on and one 24 hr shift off, 1 on, 1 off, etc). Basically I
was not getting any sleep when he was on shift. He kept quizzing me -
"What are you feeding him when I am not here, what are you doing
different?" "Nothing different," I would say. We finally realized,
the only difference was the nights he was home, he would give my son
an Epsom Salt bath and let him soak for 25-30 minutes in it. We
tested the theory by reversing it - me giving them to him when dad
was working and not when dad was home (just one time though). It
followed the theory. He threw up without the bath. Weird, I know.
Coincidence-maybe. This Autism Beast makes my head want to explode.
My son's only toxic elements out of the green area were Bismuth and
Titanium - both in red (no yellows). He had a pyruvate kinase RBC
test done when he was 2 and it came back DETECTED and we were told
that pointed to mercury toxicity. We have been convinced that this
was it. Could his body have started to move it out on it's own? I
am going to do another hair test in a few months and see if anything
is different. I looked at the tests Amy Holmes suggested and we have
done some of those and they did not match what would indicate
mercury - in fact, some were opposite (high when low would indicate
mercury, and others were normal). These tests were part of an immune
study we just completed. Any thought?

Theresa, San Antonio, TX

--- In Autism-Mercury@y..., "igorginzburg" <imginzburg@e...> wrote:
> Hi Theresa,
> David's hair test shows antimony and silver in red, and aluminum,
> cadmium, lead,uranium in yellow. As I said, he had 14 essential
> elements in the middle band, with some characteristic pattern -
high
> Ca and Mg and low Na and K. We did Elemental Analysis (packed
> erythrocytes) from Great Smokies Laboratory for toxic and essential
> elements, to my surprise, it showed elevated mercury and silver
from
> toxic elements and elevated copper and molybdenum from essential
> elements. All other elements were normal. I don't know how to
> interpret this result, may be, it means that he had recent
exposure.
> I stopped breastfeeding David in June, and the test was done in
> November, and I had 4 amalgams, may be he could get this mercury
and
> silver from my amalgams. Or may be some of nutrients which he was
> taking could mobilize mercury and silver from within the cells - I
> don't know. It's interesting that I saw immediate improvement in
him
> after I stopped breastfeeding (I did not know anything about autism
> at that time, and did not use any intervention). We started
chelation
> with DMSA only, and I see improvements after each round. Today he
> played football the first time (I could not believe - but his
father
> swears). After first round I did not see difference, but his
behavior
> therapist asked me:" what are you doing with him? He does things he
> never did before." During the second round he agreed the first time
> to ride the bycicle, and we were riding on all the cars in "Toys
are
> us" for an hour ( and bought one car, and he loves it!).I did pre-
> and post- provocative urine test during the first round. Pre- test
> showed some arsenic, mercury, nickel, tin and cadmium coming out
(all
> in green), and very little lead. Post- test showed a lot of lead
> coming out (39 - reference range 15), tin also was in yellow, and
no
> mercury at all. May be DMSA binds first with lead? I don't know but
I
> am sure that mercury is still there.
> I think that if you are not sure if your child has mercury toxicity
> or not you can just try to start chelation and see if your son has
> improvements or not. Urine test may also show if you are getting
> anything out or not. I believe that just one or two rounds of DMSA
> are pretty safe. David just turned three, his weight is about 32
lbs,
> we used 75mg DMSA every 4 hours and did not have any problems.
> Do you see benefits from epsom salt baths? I agree, they could give
> wrong result for Mg, but if they help may be they could also
> normalize some mineral transport(just an idea...)
> Best wishes,
> Margaret
>





Mon Jan 28, 2002 10:19 pm

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List,Please Help!We have received our DDI hair test results!!! We do have 2 red toxic elements and 2 red essential elements. I did the counting rules and it...
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Jan 26, 2002
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Hello Theresa, As I count this, I get: a. number very elevated or very low = 2 [yes-- this means red only] NORMAL b. number in middle band = 14 [this means...
Moria Merriweather
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Jan 26, 2002
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The essential elements do not satisfy the counting rules, suggesting that mineral transport is normal and healthy. That given, the elevated toxic elements may...
andrewhallcutler
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Jan 27, 2002
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I started researching Encephalopathy that Andy mentioned. Has anyone else's child tested high for Bismuth? Does this sound like autism? "Myalgic...
autismzone
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Jan 27, 2002
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Forgive me if I am wrong but it seems to me that according to the second criterium of counting rules (number of essental elements inside the middle band is 14...
igorginzburg
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Jan 27, 2002
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Yes, he has 14, with 2 that are barely yellows (right over the green into yellow). I was worried that his magnesium was incorrect since we give Epsom Salt...
autismzone
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Jan 27, 2002
10:53 pm

Hi Theresa, David's hair test shows antimony and silver in red, and aluminum, cadmium, lead,uranium in yellow. As I said, he had 14 essential elements in the...
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Jan 28, 2002
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Yes, I have been wondering about the Epsom Salt Baths normalizing things. I mentioned to Susan Owens once about a weird occurance. My son was sick on and off...
autismzone
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Jan 28, 2002
10:19 pm

Hi :) Haven't given my son Transfer Factor in over a year now. Thought I would try again since his immune system is haywire, ONCE again.,.Thought I'd ask the...
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Jan 28, 2002
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... Maybe. Maybe not. It is surprisingly hard to figure things out. What sulfate does (among many other things) is to remove the substances that act like...
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Hi, My son's Bismuth was off the charts as well. In fact this was the highest marker on the test. I just thought it was because of mercury poisoning. It...
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Jan 28, 2002
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Hi Andy, Some questions about interpreting the Toxic Elements results when mineral transport seems normal: How does one know what "elevated" means when the...
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Jan 28, 2002
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... are ... The reference ranges are NOT arbitrary. DDI is one of the few labs that uses PROPERLY DETERMINED ranges, which is to say green is less than 1...
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