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Re: Counting Rules Question

>When you say &quot;The number of essential<BR>
> > elements entirely inside the middle band is 14 or less,&quot; are
you referring<BR>
> > to the wide green band that would cover the 16th to 84th
percentile, or the<BR>
> > skinny white band which is the 50th? I assume the wider green
band.

You assume correctly - the wide green band.

>And if<BR>
> > that is the case, my son's result is NOT abnormal.<BR>
> > <BR>
> > But looking up at the &quot;Toxic Elements&quot; he is high in 5
of the 16 elements<BR>
> > (aluminum, cadmium, silver, tin, titanium) and extremely high in 3
element<BR>
> > (antimony, arsenic, lead).

Antimony, arsenic and lead do not impair mineral transport and thus
someone toxic in one or more of them will not satisfy the "counting
rules" criteria if they have "healthily low" levels of mercury.

>The mercury is just above the 50th, probably<BR>
> > 60th. So, does it not really matter that these other toxic
elements are<BR>
> > high?

It matters very much. Not for the mercury, but because they
themselves are toxic, and since the hair test does suggest normal
healthy mineral transport into hair (as it doesn't meet the counting
rule criteria and most of the essential elements are normal) then
whatever the hair level of these other toxics is truly DOES reflect
how much of them is in the body.

>These other elements don't suggest that there is a lot of
mercury,<BR>
> > right? My original thought was that because his test came back
showing his<BR>
> > &quot;Total Toxic Representation&quot; bar going right off the
graph to the right that<BR>
> > there must be a lot of mercury in there too.

Not everybody has mercury. Lead, arsenic and antimony are quite toxic
enough in their own right.

>Could you comment on this?<BR>
> > Thank you.<BR>
> > Meg <BR>
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Hi, Andy, Another question: I read the Counting Rules information, and looked at my son's hair analysis test results from Doctor's Data. When you say "The...
Meg Springer
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Jun 11, 2001
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I'll let Andy address the colored bands question, but you definitely don't want the other toxins in your child's body either and will probably see progress if...
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Jun 12, 2001
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... you referring<BR> ... percentile, or the<BR> ... band. You assume correctly - the wide green band. ... of the 16 elements<BR> ... element<BR> ... Antimony,...
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Jun 12, 2001
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<<Meg said, in part:>> ... The other toxic metals (aluminum etc) don't indicate anything about mercury one way or the other. Use the counting rules to...
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Jun 13, 2001
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I just got back my four year old's hair test: Aluminum 5.57 <10 Antimony 0.01 <0.6 Arsenic 0.01 <1 Barium 0.39 <1.5 Bismuth 0.25 <1 Cadmium...
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Jul 13, 2003
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Dear Tina, In order to be able to say if the test satisfies the counting rules, you will need to repost the test results using the format that is explained...
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Jul 13, 2003
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Hi Everyone, I'm a new member, thanks for letting me join. My son Michael is 3 years old and has been dx w/ Autism. We did get the 3 single HepBs and the...
Jennifer Meade
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Nov 13, 2005
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... I am confused by your question. What lab did the test that you are quoting in the first part of your message (e.g. "Michael had 13" -- on what test?) I...
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Nov 14, 2005
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There's also a counting rule on being close on two of the others. Did any of his other metals run high, yellow or red? Many on the spectrum have arsenic or...
Linda Shepard Salzer
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Nov 14, 2005
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What is the counting rule about being close on 2 of the others? Just that in itself? We have a similar situation with our son...off by 1 point to meet 2 of...
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Nov 14, 2005
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... In his book on hair testing, Andy added an additional "rule" -- which is that if you are off BY ONE on 2 of the other rules, it counts as abnormal mineral...
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Nov 14, 2005
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Can you tell me which book this is? Is it the "Amalgam Illness" book? And can I find info in it about how to treat metal toxicity - it's appearing that our...
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Nov 14, 2005
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... http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html (I actually had to search around to find this on his site) ... no, that is "the first book". It was written...
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In a message dated 14/11/2005 16:52:06 GMT Standard Time, patmarsh67@... writes: What is the counting rule about being close on 2 of the others? Just...
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Nov 14, 2005
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Important to chelate out the lead anyway and DMSA chelates both mercury and lead, but use the low and slow dosing rather than the PDR dosing. Linda S S ... In...
Linda Shepard Salzer
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Nov 14, 2005
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ALA (alpha lipoic acid) chelates both mercury and lead. Read the FAQs of this list and the book for info info on how to treat metal toxicity. Linda S S ... ...
Linda Shepard Salzer
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... No, Linda, ALA is mercury (body & brain) and ARSENIC, and DMSA is mercury (body but not brain) and lead. But since you get everything right at least 99% of...
moriamerri
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Nov 15, 2005
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Yep, typing when I'm too tired...thanks for correction, don't want to give anyone incorrect info. Linda S S ... No, Linda, ALA is mercury (body & brain) and...
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