From AndyCutler@... Sat Jul 11 13:03:38 2009
Return-Path: <AndyCutler@...>
X-Sender: AndyCutler@...
X-Apparently-To: Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com
X-Received: (qmail 73901 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2009 20:03:38 -0000
X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45)
by m5.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Jul 2009 20:03:38 -0000
X-Received: from unknown (HELO n39b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.153)
by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Jul 2009 20:03:38 -0000
X-Received: from [69.147.65.172] by n39.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jul 2009 20:02:47 -0000
X-Received: from [98.137.35.15] by t14.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jul 2009 20:02:47 -0000
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 20:02:45 -0000
To: Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com
Message-ID: <h3ar55+adct@eGroups.com>
In-Reply-To: <58D5BF0C-6856-4F0E-8DF9-0220155F2A44@...>
User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster
X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose
X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.153
X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0
X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 96.26.238.90
From: "andrewhallcutler" <AndyCutler@...>
Subject: Re: dmsa challenge results
X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=10821365; y=DCxrDDcaYWjoUeRdDMEfUdxZsEr6a17Ci--NP-RlQcKY5-5h9EPFxo4MMg
X-Yahoo-Profile: andrewhallcutler
> Quick question...is the Urinary Porphyrins test done after using a=20=20
> provoking agent?
No.
> Trying to piece this all together, please bear with me...- are hair=20=20
> test and urinary porphyrins tests the two best tests? Or is ALL=20=20
> testing useless??
These are the 2 best tests.
I strongly favor the hair test.
Testing isn't useless, you're falling into the trap of black and white thin=
king. It's all just probabilities - which test results are likely to come =
out in such a way that the probabilities of your child having X or Y or Z g=
et close enough to 0 or 1 that it is worthwhile trying something to see if =
it helps. The ultimate test is always a therapeutic trial.
There is a certain amount of inference you can make from other testing if y=
ou happen to have it. Sometimes you're lucky enough that it is a pretty st=
rong inference (a high probability) without needing a hair or porphyrin tes=
t.
Usually the cheapest and easiest way to get to high certainty is to try che=
lation (or whatever else you are thinking of).
How accurate is a 24 hour DMSA challenge with 24 hr. urine collection? I was surprised to see no elevated metals in my son's test results. None even close to...
My child had a 24 hr urine test too, no toxic metals were found in the elevated range (he was on 1/8mg per lb body weight of dmsa). However, we are seeing...
My DAN mentioned something about being hesitant to follow Cutler's protocol because of the age/size of my child. He is 9 and 66 pounds. I didn't pursue at the...
... From: C in San Diego ===>Cutler's protocol works for all sizes, including adults. Don't get talked into something the dr wants that will harm your child....
What are the best files, things to get/ find to educate myself on Andy's protocol? Do people really chelate when a DMSA (DAN) challenge show NO elevated ...
Absolutely. Everyone has heavy metals in their tissues; Autism or no Autism. Just because the heavy metals pulled aren't at an alarming level does not mean...
... From: C in San Diego ===>Andy has a couple of books that are invaluable, at www.noamalgam.com I think if this doesn't work, ask again. There is also a...
I have not read all the responses yet and appreciate all the info, so far. My DAN is an Osteopath and has been right on the money for everything - until this...
... From: C in San Diego I have not read all the responses yet and appreciate all the info, so far. My DAN is an Osteopath and has been right on the money for ...
... This all starts with the trade union attitude licensure fosters and protects. Doctors are brainwashed in med school that anything another doctor says must...
Gosh, I would think the DAN! protocol would be contraindicated for a child that size and age since the use such high doses of chelators. I assume this doctor...
Your DAN is not familiar with the AC protocol. With the AC protocol, dosing is based on weight. It is the DAN protocol that prescribes high doses of chelators...
My last DAN Rx'd supplements that contained substances my child was KNOWN to be truly allergic to. I didn't follow that advice just because he was a DAN or a...
... It's been said often on this site that DMSA does not get into the brain where mercury likes to go so I'm not sure what kind of conclusion can be drawn from...
Hi Carolyn, Comments interspersed. Linda S S Re: dmsa challenge results Posted by: "C in San Diego" mamatutu@... octbaby1999 Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:35 am...
Is it the "Hair Element" (not the Hair Toxic Element Exposure) test under the "Autism" category? Just want to make sure I order the right one :o) Thank you...
I agree...pebble was the wrong word. I have ordered Andy's book. Between this group, his book (and input) and my husband's PhD in Chemistry we will figure out...
... No. ... These are the 2 best tests. I strongly favor the hair test. Testing isn't useless, you're falling into the trap of black and white thinking. It's...